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| DocScrutinizer05 | ab: I guess you never join any German channels, eh? ;-) | 00:03 |
| ab | DocScrutinizer05: :) | 00:03 |
| ab | DocScrutinizer05: I used to work in a company that had 'ab <place>' in its name | 00:03 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if there's a user nick "is" | 00:03 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or "it" | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen the | 00:04 |
| infobot | the <ba3034cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.48.52.204> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 3h 59m 41s ago, saying: 'Hello'. | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I bet this guy had lots of fun | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki the the | 00:05 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_the (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Use British English|date=April 2011}} {{Use dmy dates|date=April 2011}} {{Infobox musical artist | name = The The | image = | caption = | image_size = | background = group_or_band | origin = United Kingdom | genre = Post-punkAlternative rock | years_active = 1979âpresent | label = 4ADSome BizzareEpicNothing/InterscopeLazarus/Cineola | associated_acts = | website = | current_members ... | 00:05 |
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| Woody14619a | Le sigh...32G micro-sd/hc cards, class 10. $24. | 00:27 |
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| Apic | *shrug* | 00:28 |
| Woody14619 | Just odd to see micro-cards breaking the $1/G limit... bound to happen, but... | 00:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | if your not keeping up, you tend to have the 'wait, that's got to be a mistake' reaction | 00:52 |
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| joga | hmm...my mobile speed went up from 0.5Mbps to about 7Mbps and seems it might be too fast because when I opened an url with plenty of pics in it n900 booted like it does if you do a big enough write fast | 09:19 |
| joga | :) | 09:19 |
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| Luke-Jr | joga: I've maintained 10mbit over N900 + 3G without any problems.. | 10:30 |
| Luke-Jr | torrents (numerous connections) even' | 10:30 |
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| joga | Luke-Jr, while writing to the sd? | 10:42 |
| joga | if I dd a couple of megs of zeroes it reboots | 10:42 |
| joga | I know there was some tweak to remedy that but haven't done it | 10:42 |
| Luke-Jr | not while writing' | 10:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | joga: that's a known problem and completely unrelated to internet connectivity speed and browser | 16:31 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, yeah but I figured that it cached the images so fast or something... | 16:32 |
| joga | though, I think I've had it also boot a couple of times when it's under stress | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the reboot comes from swap getting congested/stalled when eMMC and MMC/SD hardware interfaces and drivers get into a "race condition" | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this results in system vital processes stalling, which makes dsme oull the trigger to recover from a percieved or real faulty system status | 16:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | s/ou/pu/ | 16:35 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: this results in system vital processes stalling, which makes dsme pull the trigger to recover from a percieved or real faulty system status | 16:35 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer05, ok thanks for the clarification... was there some workaround with only positive effects? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google for swappolube | 16:45 |
| divVerent | is there a (hidden) way to set the default folder the Pictures view shows up inP? | 16:45 |
| divVerent | I don't want it ti show e.g. cover.jpg from mp3 directories in MyDocs/.sounds/ | 16:45 |
| joga | ah, I've used swappolube for years I guess | 16:45 |
| divVerent | but only the DCIM dir | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | divVerent: tracker settings is what you're looking for | 16:47 |
| divVerent | tracker-cfg? | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | divVerent: you want bugfixed tracker from CSSU for that (courtesy javispedro?), since the original one is broken and ignores ignore instructions, or sth like that | 16:48 |
| divVerent | I am on cssu-thumb, so I guess I have the bugfixedone | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably | 16:48 |
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| divVerent | is LowMemoryMode a good idea? | 16:51 |
| divVerent | hm... kinda bad, WatchDirectoryRoots needs to be set... I can't set where it expects sounds and where videos. Still nice tool. | 16:52 |
| jon_y | iirc no | 16:52 |
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| jon_y | you want the indexing to be done as soon as possible | 16:52 |
| jon_y | save battery | 16:52 |
| divVerent | I couldn't care less for the indexing | 16:52 |
| divVerent | I could live with no indexing at all, even | 16:52 |
| jon_y | well, you would want it to complete fast | 16:53 |
| divVerent | I use HamsterFiler to open files in the media player | 16:53 |
| divVerent | yes, but no indexing would win | 16:53 |
| jon_y | the disable directory would work for you | 16:53 |
| jon_y | just tell it not to index anything under / | 16:53 |
| divVerent | yes, looking for it | 16:53 |
| divVerent | WatchDirectoryRoots is NOT the list of all that is indexed | 16:54 |
| divVerent | because I know /media/mmc1 is indexed too | 16:54 |
| divVerent | yet not listed there+ | 16:54 |
| divVerent | oh, IndexRemovableMedia probably does THAT part | 16:54 |
| divVerent | EnableIndexing - is that the big master switch? | 16:54 |
| jon_y | you can try | 16:55 |
| divVerent | wait, this thing does thumbnails too... damn | 16:55 |
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| divVerent | well, let's see if anything important breaks | 16:55 |
| divVerent | how do I clear the currently existing index? | 16:55 |
| vi__ | tracker is actually a pretty damn good piece of software | 16:55 |
| vi__ | I never understood all the h8ing it gets. | 16:55 |
| divVerent | Rebuild Databases, did that now with EnableIndexing off | 16:56 |
| divVerent | vi__: because it shows nonsense | 16:56 |
| vi__ | What? | 16:56 |
| divVerent | I don't want all the CD covers with their random modtimes listed with my camera pictures | 16:56 |
| vi__ | That is a problem with picture viewer. | 16:56 |
| vi__ | It SHOULD display only camera pictures by default. | 16:56 |
| divVerent | yes, because it defaults to the "All pictures" view | 16:56 |
| divVerent | and that cannot be changed | 16:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: it's getting terribly abused by maemo | 16:57 |
| divVerent | BTW, did not work, even with enableIndexing off, pictures still shows the wrong pics | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: abused as alternative to a proper hierarchical filesystem with directories | 16:57 |
| vi__ | Step 1. Do not throttle it or use low memory mode. Let it finish its stuff ASAP. | 16:57 |
| vi__ | Step 2. If you have power busybox installed, use ionice to set it as a background task. | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tracker is nice - for stuff like spotlight/kerry-beagle/whatsthename search functions | 16:58 |
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| divVerent | but anyway | 16:58 |
| vi__ | Step 3. Disable some of the unused functions like word indexing. | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NOT for the *only* way to access files in an app, and particularly bot to store even email content in it, like done in HARM | 16:58 |
| divVerent | it looks like it isn't even Tracker's fault that pictures view shows the nonsense | 16:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | s/ bot/ not/ | 16:58 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: NOT for the *only* way to access files in an app, and particularly not to store even email content in it, like done in HARM | 16:58 |
| divVerent | because even with .sounds removed and everything else on, it shows the pics from there | 16:59 |
| vi__ | You need to add .sounds to no index then rebuild. | 16:59 |
| divVerent | where is "No index" | 16:59 |
| divVerent | there is only "no watch" | 16:59 |
| vi__ | Install trackercfg if you have not already. | 16:59 |
| divVerent | I have it | 16:59 |
| vi__ | Yes, nowatch | 17:00 |
| vi__ | then you need to rebuild after adding a directory to no watch. | 17:00 |
| vi__ | I have 2000+ music tracks and 100+ videos. I have zero problems with tracker. | 17:01 |
| divVerent | ok, now All images view is empty | 17:02 |
| vi__ | That is what you wanted? | 17:02 |
| divVerent | after adding .sounds, saving and restarting tracker, and reindexing | 17:02 |
| divVerent | no, I want the DCIMs still to show up | 17:02 |
| divVerent | oh | 17:02 |
| divVerent | it takes a while to start indexing | 17:02 |
| divVerent | NOW it started | 17:02 |
| vi__ | Give it a moment. | 17:02 |
| vi__ | Tracker tries to be inconvenient. | 17:03 |
| divVerent | let's see if excluding .sounds worked | 17:03 |
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| divVerent | of course, it then also means that the MP3 player won't have any index... wonder if it still will work then | 17:03 |
| divVerent | when opening it from HamsterFiler | 17:03 |
| divVerent | speaking of HamsterFiler | 17:03 |
| divVerent | is there a way to teach the default file manager to NOT look up ID3 tags of MP3s? | 17:03 |
| divVerent | but show the REAL file names? | 17:03 |
| divVerent | this is the ONLY reason why I use HamsterFiler... to not get this ID3 tag nonsense | 17:03 |
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| vi__ | I wonder if there is a way to add complex rules like 'index /my/direcetory excluding <filetype>' | 17:04 |
| vi__ | ID3 tags are not nonsense. | 17:04 |
| vi__ | Default file manager sucks asses. | 17:04 |
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| vi__ | Although, I am quite pedantic with tagging my digital music collection. | 17:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* how would I selectively forbid /queries? Had a query popup in-midst me writing something, for a felt 30 times during last hour | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this whole stuff more and more gets annoying and no more manageable | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's approaching the day when I'll probably need to go offline to get any vital work done, without IRC and stuff distracting me every 45s | 17:11 |
| Drathir | adblock? | 17:14 |
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: /block user maybe? | 17:14 |
| vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: But if you are not in IRC, how will you have a steady supply of people being technically wrong to correct? | 17:15 |
| joga | use an irc client that doesn't pop up stuff :) | 17:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | joga: yep, probably, but then I need an irc client that also allows to log in under multiple nicks/accounts, since once or twice a day a real "emergency call" comes in, and I don't want to miss that | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e.g I'm chanop of a felt 3 dozen irc channels | 17:29 |
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| ruskie | anyone planing on getting the jolla thingy? | 17:51 |
| * Wizzup possibly | 17:52 | |
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| vi__ | ruskie: I shall wait to see if it comes with xterm. | 17:58 |
| ruskie | I'm thinking of getting it simply to have something more up to date as a phone but that isn't tied to apple, google, microsoft | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I pondered it, but felt fooled by them selling a completely unspecified "trhe other half" to me for 100 bucks | 17:59 |
| vi__ | Nokia S40? | 17:59 |
| ruskie | vi__, that's always a good fallback for me | 17:59 |
| ruskie | I'm definitely interested in the nokia with the one month standby that they've annouced for the later half of the year | 18:00 |
| vi__ | Can it run without the 'otherhalf'? | 18:00 |
| vi__ | ruskie: No 3g though. | 18:00 |
| ruskie | your point? | 18:00 |
| ruskie | for calls and sms it's good enough | 18:00 |
| ruskie | I plan on getting a mifi type device to solve the 3g issue | 18:01 |
| ruskie | with a tablet | 18:01 |
| vi__ | True, but it is always nice to have a personal access point. | 18:01 |
| ruskie | not that I'm unhappy with my n900 | 18:02 |
| ruskie | still love it | 18:02 |
| vi__ | Why is there no mobile phone that is in the form factor of a handsfree headset? | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | too heavy | 18:02 |
| vi__ | We need magic batteries. | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and SAR | 18:03 |
| vi__ | Science pls deliver ASAP. | 18:03 |
| ruskie | I should sometime reflash my n900 and go with a full up to date cssu update | 18:03 |
| vi__ | ruskie: You should. | 18:03 |
| vi__ | It makes it closer to what the n900 should have been. | 18:03 |
| ruskie | of course I'll then have to remove a ton of stuff again that I don't want/need | 18:04 |
| vi__ | Not so hard. | 18:04 |
| ruskie | I'll need to make a full backup first | 18:04 |
| vi__ | You are the ruskie from tmo? | 18:04 |
| ruskie | yup | 18:04 |
| vi__ | heh, then you know what you are doing. | 18:04 |
| ruskie | yup | 18:04 |
| ruskie | it's just energy and time that I need to do it | 18:05 |
| ruskie | maybe during my vacation | 18:05 |
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| ruskie | when I'll be bored | 18:05 |
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| vi__ | There is a lot of stuff that can be apt-get'ed away. | 18:05 |
| ruskie | I'll mainly need to reinstall a lot of stuff... hopefuly the configs will mainly stay the same | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: CSSU gave great care to keep all config compatible with stock maemo | 18:08 |
| vi__ | lolwut: http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/08/dog-lovers-tricked-into-buying-steroid-filled-ferrets-instead-of-poodles-3587261/ | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | almost everything you used to do on stock maemo5 should work exactly same way on CSSU | 18:09 |
| kerio | vi__: old and a hoax | 18:09 |
| kerio | *cssu stable | 18:09 |
| vi__ | kerio: I am so dissapoint. | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | some stuff works simpler though, r isnt needed at all anymore | 18:09 |
| ruskie | yeah I'll just have to reinstall a ton of stuff I have self built but I still have the repo running | 18:09 |
| vi__ | ...what stuff? | 18:10 |
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| ruskie | fcron, xmms2, zsh, sharing_cli and I think a few other stuff | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: (obsolete) like MHD, keyboard patch for NK-enter problem, etc | 18:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ruskie: see: | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~jrtools | 18:12 |
| infobot | rumour has it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 18:12 |
| kerio | fcron? | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | poor alternative to alarmed | 18:13 |
| ruskie | works for me though hehe ;) | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooooorrrrr a ill-named dbus-scripting alternative | 18:14 |
| ruskie | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Ruskie <-- have some stuff here for repartioning | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | repartitioning? | 18:15 |
| ruskie | yup I repartioned my device live | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | should ghet done prior to installing new maemo from scratch | 18:15 |
| ruskie | yeah I'll look at resizing the stuff | 18:16 |
| ruskie | I reduce mydocs to minimal | 18:16 |
| ruskie | like 2gb or so | 18:16 |
| ruskie | most everything I put it to home | 18:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | and latest CSSU comes with support for all sorts of tweaks to fstab | 18:16 |
| ruskie | and some opt | 18:16 |
| ruskie | ow??? | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ask Pali | 18:17 |
| chem|st | ruskie: did order... | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's still pre-release | 18:17 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: preorder is 0eur... | 18:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | but aiui the plan is to enable user custom repartitioning | 18:18 |
| ruskie | I think I'll wait for some reviews and maybe a hands on test(if any of the local cellcos will offer it) for the jolla device | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: I know, but wtf if I preorder 2nd best instead of premium? | 18:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | feels all like cheating on customers | 18:19 |
| chem|st | well I think supportif and after having an android tab for 4 weeks I want my next phone to be swipe for sure | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | for all I can tell this "other-half" *seems* to be a colored and maybe nametagged plastic snapon coat. But could also be an abo for jolla journal, or a t-shirt | 18:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | and do you recall nokia's N900 preorder story. Epic! you could preorder for ~600 EUR and in the end possibly got device later than those who ordered at amazon for 500 | 18:23 |
| wmarone | yes, I remember that | 18:24 |
| wmarone | hopefully they will have remembered to solve that problem as well | 18:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | so that 100 bucks premium preorder offer gets you: a voucher worth 100 bucks off to the max 499EUR jolla will call for a device that amazon might sell at 249. Plus a "other-half" that nobody specifies what it actually is | 18:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | heck, idiots like Obi and Baumarkt and Saturn know how to do that better, offering best-price warranty like "if you show us a source to get the device cheaper than what you paid here, we return the difference in price plus some bucks compensation to you" | 18:29 |
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| vi__ | When will they reveal details as to what exactly the 'other half' thing is? It seems to be the main feature but we don't know what it is. | 18:31 |
| ShadowJK | (that's why they get manuf to give them a different ean and sky so they can claim "it's not the same product") | 18:31 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: i really hope that the latest cssu doesn't come with additions to rcS-late | 18:31 |
| ShadowJK | sku* | 18:31 |
| kerio | because they make my device unbootable | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | a realistic 9 months still till device rollout... | 18:31 |
| * DocScrutinizer51 should try again to get a job as EE or system architect hw, at jolla | 18:32 | |
| * freemangordon thinks to apply for the position if they need a new CEO :D | 18:33 | |
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| vi__ | Go for it FMG, you are certain to get it. | 18:33 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately I don;t use twitter, so not sure how to apply | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | ooh, yes | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | there is FB | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | CEO? omg not it | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: But why, I have NFC how to do that job :P | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooh tyen you're probably perfectrly qualified | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: come on, if Steve can be the CEO of Nokia... | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | At least I have more that 2 brain cells | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | see above | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | yep | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | be careful! more than 5 might be a KO criterion | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | KO? | 18:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | kockout | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | more than 5 brain cells? nevermind. next candidate please | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | oh, yes | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | well, I can lie to them ;) | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | (if it turns out I have more than 5) | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | honestly, usually for a CEO rather strange qualifications count | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | probably mr Flop had too many brain clls, which gave him ideas not approved by the really qualified people | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | well, at least here, a degree in economics is a must. Even for IT companies. Which is rather strange IMO | 18:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: sure, we (hopefully) all know about those tricks to make your product "unique" so nobody ever could claim that warranty. But other sellers offer to give you same conditions on date of purchase. And I must be God's favourite douche bag if I'd pay 100 bucks to preorder sth that not even has tech specs and no way to make sure I didn't waste that 100 bucks on nothing since I'd *save* another 50 bicks with NOT using that preorder | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and rather ordering at $seller-b | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/bick/buck/ | 19:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping | 19:13 |
| infobot | ~pong | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, overlength | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless ibot and purl offline | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~die | 19:14 |
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| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: the pre-orders are either 100e for the other half package, 40e for the t-shirt package and 0e for just the phone to show your interest | 19:38 |
| thedead1440 | despite choosing any of the above three you can apply for a refund within 14days of delivery of the package | 19:38 |
| thedead1440 | so you have enough room IMO to change your mind | 19:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: I know of the three options. I however don't see an option to get beck my 100EUR if that mystical "other-half" isn't worth it, or if the pricetag jolla calls up is >> what e.g. amazon calls | 20:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | back* | 20:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | So get the 0 one. | 20:06 |
| thedead1440 | or just apply for a refund? | 20:06 |
| thedead1440 | read the FAQ ;) https://jolla.com/care/ | 20:07 |
| kerio | dafuq is that | 20:11 |
| kerio | why does the jolla website look like shit | 20:11 |
| kerio | and why is having themes matching the backcover relevant to a good mobile OS? | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: how's a refund 14 days after I ordered the 100EUR preorder helping me when in 9 months it turns out I preordered a device for 499EUR that I could get for 220 at $random-seller? | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: +1 | 20:12 |
| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: its 14 days after you receive the package! Like I said you should read the FAQ first before pre-ordering | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I probably *did* read them | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and do you know what is defined as "delivery of package"? | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in my book that's the moment they send the voucher to me | 20:14 |
| thedead1440 | that's not the way i interpret it but since in my country i could place the 0e one only i did that. If you want to be clear about what you are doing they have in almost every FAQ answer asked you to email them for further clarification. Honestly its much better than trying to come up with various different interpretations of their answers | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there is no possible different interpretations - 14 period starts with t-shirt and voucher arriving at you. In line with standard european internet shopping laws | 20:17 |
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| thedead1440 | and they are shipping the t-shirt + other half now? it seems more like they'll only ship it just before the device is also shipped | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, they are shipping the t-shirt and voucher right away | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe only the voucher | 20:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>If you join the Movement and get the pre-order number to buy the phone when available, you’ll pay no more than 399€; including applicable VAT in Europe, but excluding shipping costs, duties and any local taxes.<< | 20:22 |
| thedead1440 | if so then email them and clarify if you want to place the 100e pre-order | 20:22 |
| ShadowJK | seems like courier-only shipping too, which is a PITA | 20:23 |
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| thedead1440 | FWIW, I'm pretty sure you would not have a hard time getting the device to ship to Germany after its launched if you don't pre-order as demand would most likely be there. | 20:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm however interested in that completely obscure "ltd ed. jolla " and "the-other-half" stuff that for all I can tell might be everything from a virtual eligibility to buy a jolla phone, to a developer edition plus special hardware kbd snapon | 20:33 |
| thedead1440 | the hw kbd snapon seems intriguing indeed | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and same time I feel like getting cheated by exactly this policy to offer stuff that's not defined, and even ask for a substantial 100 bucks down payment while not even warranting that this will get me the best available price for the product once it ships | 20:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | The risks of pre-ordering | 20:36 |
| divVerent | DocScrutinizer05: BTW, when I registered (for the $0 package), I hit a LOT of website bugs | 20:38 |
| divVerent | like, it told me for all username attempts that the name is already taken | 20:38 |
| divVerent | ended up with 7 confirmation mails in my inbox... | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 20:38 |
| divVerent | and then I had NO preorder, but ONLY the account, with zero data in it except for email and password | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | optimized for MSIE | 20:38 |
| divVerent | well, apparently they hate Chromium | 20:38 |
| divVerent | so I then went there AGAIN, logged in by "check my orders", then ordered again (this time, the user/pass fields were gone) | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | abysmal appearance | 20:39 |
| divVerent | so it actually affected my account then | 20:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds exactly like my experience when trying to register to developers.nokia.com, or forum.meego or any other meego site | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | turned out it only works with FF with *standard* cookie settings and security policies | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and only if those settings been in effect on your very first visit of the page, otherwise some never-expiring expired session-validation cookie threw you back to login inevitably | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no chance to register or login to that website until you deleted that session cookie | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (FF default settings would have done that for you on closing FF) | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since that's been pretty identical for devel.nokia and *.meego, I guess they used exactly same "framework" on jolla now | 20:44 |
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| Sc0rpius | promoting to extras-testing doesn't really work, does it? | 21:11 |
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| kerio | Sc0rpius: merlin1991 is, afaik, MIA | 21:12 |
| Sc0rpius | oh, is he in charge of those kind of issues? | 21:13 |
| kerio | he's in charge of repos | 21:13 |
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