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Macerhm03:57
Macerdoes video chatting with gtalk not work anymore?03:57
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DocScrutinizer05I wish video conferences with sipgate would work04:04
MacerDocScrutinizer05: i can't seem to video chat with an android tablet04:05
Macerdid google change their video format or something?04:05
Maceram i missing something?04:05
Maceri remember gtalk being supported04:06
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Macerwhy don't i have a video option on either one?04:10
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DocScrutinizer05android? gtalk? never heard about ;-)04:25
DocScrutinizer05google??04:25
Macerlol04:29
Macerit used to work04:29
Maceri used to use it04:29
Macerwtf04:31
Maceram i missing something??04:31
kolp_Hi, I managed to get rid of my locales somehow. Doe sanyone recall what packages I have to reinstall to get at least English back?04:31
MacerDocScrutinizer05: did google change their video format or something?04:33
Maceror is there no more video chat support in maemo? or am i missing something? i can't find much information about it04:33
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Macerheh04:35
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Macerhow odd04:37
DocScrutinizer05sorry, no idea, I actually never touched that stuff04:40
Macerit isn't really a dealbreaker. i just think it odd it doesn't work anymore :)04:40
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Macerbut yeah. for some odd reason it doesn't seem to be picking up the option for video chatting in gtalk :-/04:41
Macerthta uscks04:42
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Macersucks04:42
DocScrutinizer05well, since all those business models base on getting your data and pestering you with popup ads in their proprietary user client, I think it's a common practice to every now and then change the API to screw all hijackers/pirates04:42
nox-*nod*04:43
rikaneeMacer: you could run a local Jabber server and let that handle Google Talk for you04:43
Macernot really sure how well the vidoe chatting works between xmpp servers04:44
Maceri've never done it04:44
rikaneewell, it won't work.04:44
kolp_Jabber/CMPP video chat is not a server feature04:44
kolp_s/CMPP/XMPP/04:44
infobotkolp_ meant: Jabber/XMPP video chat is not a server feature04:44
kolp_Does anyone have any idea how to fix something like this? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6072/screenshot2011100613440.png04:46
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rikaneekolp_: either you upgraded glibc to a really new version, or you rm'd /usr/share/locale/en04:47
kolp_The latter :(04:48
rikaneekolp_: you can fish a copy of the dir from a backupmenu rootfs tar.04:48
kolp_I was hoping to be able to reinstall that with apt04:49
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Maceryeah it doesn't work04:51
DocScrutinizer05I think locales are one of the things that don't have an installable package you could get via apt04:52
Maceromg my son's ad-droid nexus04:53
Macerhe did what any kid does.. installed games04:53
Macerand almost every single game has an option for a fking notification04:53
Macerad type stuff04:53
Macerit's ridiculous04:53
kolp_Oh, ok. I'll try to get it from somewhere else then. Thanks DocScrutinizer05 and rikanee04:54
rikaneeMacer: time to install PDroid and cockblock it all.04:55
Maceryeah probably.. i never installed pdroid tho lol04:55
Macerit really is insane04:55
rikaneeit flat out rejects or spoofs data.04:56
rikaneeif you can't patch your ROM, Lucky Patcher can remove permissions, but that might break badly-coded apps.04:56
Macerif they're badly coded then they shouldn't be there ;)04:58
Maceri bet skype video chatting still works but i don't know anybody that uses that lol04:59
Maceroh well whatever05:00
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Drathirskype is connected with m$ = bad app, bad...05:01
Maceryeah well... gtalk is connected with google05:02
Macerso which would you rather have? :-P05:02
Macerat lest MS makes revenue from other things than advertising05:02
Macerleast05:02
Drathirgoogle > m$05:02
Maceri disagree05:02
Maceri think they both suck .. but google is far worse than ms05:02
Macerthey just put on a better face05:03
Macernot too many hot women at this hockey game05:03
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bef0rdwhat did you expect05:05
Drathiryes, but they dont make money on funny system all time the same only changed how looks and the base is the same, andd ppl must pay again again for the same thing... :/05:06
Drathirshort  thats mean pay us all the time, and we wil be laughing about you buy it....05:08
Drathirmac os look little better with that because ppl if good remember pay smaller only for update new version....05:10
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mad_devHey guys, does anyone know if there is a web server app for minimal usage i.e. upload/download?12:44
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ShapeshifterThis is great. When I do a sip call, I get a message "Could not establish connection" and the phone window closes but then I can heare the dial tone going beep, beep....12:54
ShapeshifterAnd I can't stop it12:54
Shapeshifterand it worked 5 minutes ago12:54
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DocScrutinizer05lol15:04
DocScrutinizer05the wonders of detached subprocesses for RTP I guess15:05
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DocScrutinizer05or simply put: the wonders of libsofiasip15:06
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DocScrutinizer05~wtf kibibyte16:53
infobotGee...  I don't know what kibibyte means...16:53
kerio2 to the power of 10 bytes16:55
kerioas opposed to kilobyte, 10 to the power of 3 bytes16:56
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DocScrutinizer05I always thought that was kiBytes vs kBytes17:45
DocScrutinizer05are there kiwibytes as well?17:46
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kerioKiB means kibibyte18:03
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jaskakirbytes18:12
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DocScrutinizer05kiwi bytes18:36
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: apply for council!!18:36
keriobut i can barely survive on my own18:37
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DocScrutinizer05meh! council needs <2h/week18:38
keriowhat's the karma requirements? i doubt i can fulfill that18:39
keriowhere do i apply?18:39
DocScrutinizer05err, mail to community ML18:39
DocScrutinizer05we'll check karma for you18:39
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keriois there a standard model to apply?18:40
kerioi can hardly language18:40
keriobtw, lists.maemo.org has mixed http/https content18:40
DocScrutinizer05informal "I declare my candidature for apr/may 2013 council"18:41
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DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council  http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Election_process18:43
kerioDocScrutinizer05: how do i sign it?18:43
kerio"best regards"?18:43
DocScrutinizer05sure18:43
DocScrutinizer05whatever you like18:44
keriok, done18:44
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mad_devIs it possible to run maemo on ARM Cortex-A9 with full application support.18:58
merlin1991if you somehow magically get a kernel with everything, sure18:59
mad_devwhat do mean kernel with everything19:00
merlin1991the maemo userspace depends on various non-standard kernel patches, you have to provide those interfaces somehow19:00
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mad_devcould you give an example of a non-standard patch..many thanks19:03
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Palimad_dev, look at kernel-power source code19:18
Paliand patches with name *nokia*19:18
Palibut I'm trying to patch maemo files, so maemo specific intrefaces could be optional...19:19
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mad_devI am trying to port a maemo application(QtMobilespot) to my ODROID runing ubuntu..I realised that it is vertually impossible(com.nokia.icd2). So I decided to port maemo to the ARM Cortex-A9(Exynos 4)19:25
mad_devdoes anyone now if it is remotely possible?19:26
Paliwrite your own "hotspot" application19:28
Paliit could be easy19:28
Palijust add masquerade rules to iptables, start dnsmasq (for dhcp server, dns forwarder) and connect to wifi (or create ap with hostapd)19:29
mad_devI am looking for a GUI19:30
keriomad_dev: hold on, what19:33
kerioyou couldn't port a single application because it depends on a closed component, and your fix is to port /everything/?19:33
mad_devkerio: it sounds crazy..i know19:33
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DocScrutinizer05it sounded *awesome*19:56
DocScrutinizer05I wish he had actually started that project19:56
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userhello.i want to use my phone as a wlan card22:43
uservia usb22:43
keriohm, not quite22:44
keriobut you can do something similar22:44
usertryed with iptables,but cant reach wan,only lan22:45
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kerioyou should be able to connect to your wifi network with the connection manager, then enable usb networking and enable forwarding22:46
userhow to do that?22:46
keriothere's a partial guide on the wiki22:47
usercould you send me the link plaese?22:47
keriohttp://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking22:47
keriobut wiki. is really slow for me22:47
userthank you22:47
kerioDocScrutinizer05: *poke*22:47
DocScrutinizer05ouch22:47
keriooh don't be such a crybaby22:48
keriowiki. is slow, can you confirm?22:48
DocScrutinizer05yeah, had severe load22:48
DocScrutinizer05might be weekly full backup22:49
DocScrutinizer05or some fool doing a *.maemo.org/* mirror22:49
DocScrutinizer05since www also has quite a bit of load22:50
keriohold on, we can't afford a fool doing a mirror?22:50
kerioi.e. we can't afford google?22:50
DocScrutinizer05meh, depends22:51
DocScrutinizer05if you're wondering, check ganglia22:51
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DocScrutinizer05we made it for guys like you as well, not only for us techstaff (actually if we had planned that, we had closed it behind htaccess)22:52
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