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keriofreemangordon: we can test your fmtx-enabler idea by changing the keys and the address of the maemo repo with one made by us00:22
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tadzikis there any nice portrait mode virtual keyboard that people use?00:40
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DocScrutinizer05not afaik00:56
DocScrutinizer05I might be wrong though00:56
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bobofosho123Hello, is anyone home?06:44
bobofosho123Hello everyone-06:45
bobofosho123I currently own a Cyan Nokia N9 16g. I've had the phone for a about 4 months and have never had a data plan with my carrier active on the phone. For the record, I live in the USA and use T-Mobile, which uses the 1700 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G and HSPA+ data. Even though the phone is clearly compatible with the network for Internet I've had tons of issues properly configuring the phone to work with the data connection. I've06:45
bobofosho123already made sure the APN is set to epc.t-mobile.com and that the Access Point code (1234) is correct. I've spoken to reps at the highest level of tech support to see what the issue and they can't seem to find anything wrong, so now I'm coming here to see if anyone has any ideas. I've uploaded some screenshots of the settings for the data connection below:06:45
bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JGFZn.png[/IMG]06:45
bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JI2p6.png[/IMG]06:45
bobofosho123[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fS6F2.png[/IMG]06:45
bobofosho123The connection works intermittently, sometimes it'll work for a day, sometimes it won't work at all. Sometimes it'll load web pages halfway and then cut out, other times it won't sync properly with my email, Facebook, or Twitter accounts, etc. The problems seem to be random. FYI, I already know it works totally fine on wifi connections. If anyone has any ideas feel free to help. Thanks in advance.06:45
bobofosho123-Cheers, bobofosho12306:45
bobofosho123UPDATE: I forgot to mention a few other details, whenever I reboot the phone I get a text from T-Mobile saying "We see your phone doesn't have correct settings to access the Internet or send MMS. You will receive a message on how to fix this." After that, a screen appears asking for the access point access code, which is 1234, and then it comes up again twice and then it finally connects. However, it normally fails to06:46
bobofosho123properly connect to the data network, meaning I'm still unable to access the Internet.06:46
bobofosho123If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it.06:46
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DocScrutinizer05bobofosho123: /join #harmattan06:52
bobofosho123way ahead of you06:52
bobofosho123thanks06:52
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DocScrutinizer05friggin server password <user:password> user part is CASEsensitive >:-(07:23
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Snafu.09:00
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: hehe, i forgot to charge my n900 this night, woke up this morning and it wouldn't even show the led while holding the powerkey10:14
keriobut then i plugged in the wallcharger, and it booted in act_dead mode after ~20 seconds10:14
keriono, even less10:15
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: have you read the awesome idea fmg had to push the HAM fix?10:35
DocScrutinizer05yep10:35
freemangordonand?10:35
DocScrutinizer05as long as it works...10:36
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: you don't by any chance know a nice wristwatch with firmware source code I can build with free sw? :P10:36
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DocScrutinizer05there's been that watch thingie javispedro built a interface for on HARM10:37
DocScrutinizer05analog and digital10:37
Luke-JrO.o?10:37
SpeedEvilthe ti watch10:37
SpeedEvilTI10:37
SpeedEvilI forget the name10:37
Luke-JreZ430-Chronos-915 - Chronos: Wireless development tool in a watch ?10:38
int_uakerio: HAM fix?10:38
kerioint_ua: something to allow normal users to still use the nokia repos10:38
kerioto do system upgrades10:38
freemangordonint_ua: nokia gpg key10:39
int_uaoh10:39
DocScrutinizer05the TI was nice too, but I think there also been another one10:40
Luke-Jrhmm10:41
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: probably "nifty :-D" been what you wanted to hear, eh?10:41
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: no10:41
DocScrutinizer05but it is!10:41
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I wanted to hear whether you think it will work and how do you like the idea to "backdoor" a package into users' deviced10:43
freemangordon*devices10:43
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2 ?10:43
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I think it could work, though I haven't checked in depth. And I like the idea10:44
DocScrutinizer05since it's probably our only option anyway10:44
DocScrutinizer05yeah, metawatch10:45
freemangordonkerio: fmtx enabler is in both -extras and -ssu repos, I am afraid it being in -ssu won't allow newver version through -extras10:46
freemangordonwhat do you think?10:46
kerioi told you, there's no way i can think of to get a list of trust levels from HAM, so we can't really do an analysis from here10:47
keriowe need someone on PR 1.3 to check that10:47
freemangordonand in general - please, someone give an idea how to test that10:47
DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: duh, seems they dropped the analog one10:47
keriomore importantly, on PR 1.210:47
keriofreemangordon: edit the maemo.org extras URL and key to use a repo we have to create for the purpose10:47
kerioand push the package there10:47
Luke-Jrhmm, IIRC MetaWatch has terrible battery life10:47
freemangordonhmm, could we use cssu-devel?10:48
Luke-Jryeah, a week tops lol10:49
keriofreemangordon: hm, i suppose so10:49
freemangordonit should be the same for CSSU device10:49
Luke-Jrwho wants to charge their wristwatch every week? XD10:49
keriooh, no it may not be the same10:49
freemangordonkerio: why?10:49
kerio1) cssu-devel has a higher trust level than nokia repos10:49
DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: every week was great. I heard you better charge every other day10:49
kerio2) HAM was changed in cssu10:49
freemangordonkerio: well, i'll edit that to match -extras10:50
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: the eZ430 one claims it lasts 1-2 years10:50
DocScrutinizer05excuse me while I LOL10:50
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freemangordonkerio: and it is easy to downgrade HAM10:50
DocScrutinizer05the point is: you CANT get 2 years of standby with any form of connectivity10:51
Luke-JrI don't need connectivity <.<10:51
Luke-Jron my watch10:51
DocScrutinizer05well, then...10:51
freemangordonkerio: though it might be easier to just flash PR1.210:51
keriofreemangordon: i'd still prefer that someone with stock everything checked10:51
freemangordon^^^10:51
keriofreemangordon: good point, we also need to check the fix anyway10:51
Luke-JrI just want to see the time10:51
keriofreemangordon: we can use cssu-devel as the repo, though10:52
freemangordonkerio: yes, to do the initail testing10:52
freemangordon*initial10:52
DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: for that I suggest stranglers: 40 million watches with a strap to sell10:52
kerioi would most definetely not suggest stranglers10:53
DocScrutinizer05if they would ever sell out, that would be the end of... be the end of... be the end of TIME10:53
keriounless you don't have a neck10:53
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: can I change the firmware w/ free sw?10:53
kerioor unless you mean these stranglers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B4bsqYxwo010:54
keriofreemangordon: make sure to also specify the cssu-devel gpg key fingerprint in variant-domains.xexp10:55
kerioand add a keychain with that key in the keys directory10:55
DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3knQCtDOa010:56
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freemangordonkerio: TBH I am not sure I am the one to test that. I miss too much knowledge on apt10:56
freemangordonI think it should be you, Pali or merlin199110:57
DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFoOie1CRuk10:57
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: >>Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.<<11:04
DocScrutinizer05no proper stranglers for me on tube11:04
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freemangordonkerio: what exactly gives me apt-cache policy?11:05
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keriofreemangordon: that's the apt priority, it's not relevant to what HAM does11:05
freemangordon:(11:05
kerioDocScrutinizer05: have you tried Modify Headers?11:05
kerioadd an X-Forwarded-For and then an IP from somewhere outside germany11:05
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: is there a howto for dummies?11:10
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: probably11:17
DocScrutinizer05well, I'd need that11:18
DocScrutinizer05or I would start writing a python local proxy11:18
DocScrutinizer05or just use a realy relay somewhere in US or whatever11:19
DocScrutinizer05though those never really work11:19
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: nah, the beauty is that you tell youtube *you* are a proxy11:29
keriofor someone in the US11:29
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DocScrutinizer51kerio: I got that. But *how*?12:13
kerioinstall the Modify Headers firefox extension12:13
kerioif you use chrome, stop using chrome12:13
kerioand install firefox12:13
keriobecause it's better12:13
DocScrutinizer51mhm12:13
DocScrutinizer51chrome, haha12:14
DocScrutinizer51Konqueror here, but FF as secondary12:14
kerioi didn't know people used Konqueror willingly12:15
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DocScrutinizer51it's the only UI that nicely integrates filemanager with (s)ftp and viewer and editor and html renderer12:17
DocScrutinizer51ooh, also ark12:18
kerioyou make me sick12:18
DocScrutinizer51heh12:19
DocScrutinizer51it's a damn shame they dropped konqueror for this friggin dolphin in kde412:21
DocScrutinizer51in konqueror I can even pick two alternative rendering engines12:22
DocScrutinizer51webkit and gecko iirc12:22
DocScrutinizer51look, in konqueror I seamlessly copy stuff from my N900 to cloud-7.de12:24
DocScrutinizer51and instantly watch the http result in another tab12:24
DocScrutinizer51even wget12:24
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kerioDocScrutinizer51: yeah but... KIO :s12:30
kerioyou could do the same with a "mv" with fuse12:33
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thedead1440is there a new build for ffmpeg on the n900? The one in the repos seems to be from 21/12/200912:41
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TimoHey guys12:45
TimoOh, sorry, I would ask something about harmattan... Sorry! Joining #harmattan now ;)12:46
Hurrianthedead1440: http://maemo.org/packages/view/ffmpeg/12:47
Hurrianapparently not.12:47
Hurriandamn, that's a really old build12:47
thedead1440Hurrian: thanks12:47
Hurrian0.5svn in Fremantle versus 1.0.1 current.12:47
thedead1440yup thats why i couldn't get baseline in -vprofile as an option12:48
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keriothedead1440: try mailing the maintainer12:54
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thedead1440kerio: done :D12:56
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Hurrianman, shitty day. N900 got stolen the one time I bring it out again.13:11
DocScrutinizer51dafaq!!!13:12
freemangordonHurrian: what? you have your n900 stolen? damn :(13:12
SpeedEvil:-\13:12
SpeedEvildamnit13:12
Hurrianfreemangordon, brought it out of my pocket to change the song, and it got snatched.13:12
DocScrutinizer51what an idiot lifts a N900?13:13
freemangordonhehe13:13
HurrianHad the missus and kids, didn't want to run after the thief.13:13
DocScrutinizer51you cant sell it, definitely13:13
SpeedEvilstupid people. :'(13:13
HurrianIt was black, shiny, and had a large touchscreen.13:13
DocScrutinizer51Hurrian: which town?13:14
freemangordonyeah. you have another one?13:14
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HurrianWas in Cubao to attend the early morning mass.13:14
DocScrutinizer51cubao?13:15
HurrianPhilippines.13:15
DocScrutinizer51aah13:15
Hurrianfreemangordon: unfortunately not anymore, as I previously sold the other working ones. I still have some scrap N900 spares, but not entirely sure I can put together a working machine from the scraps.13:15
DocScrutinizer51well, if I ever go there, I'll chain the N900 to my wrist. And take my P99 with me13:16
HurrianI could buy cheap ones for ~US$60, but I don't feel like getting one in sketchy condition.13:16
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Hurrian"new" ones are still being sold for ~$500, but it's obvious they're "lightly used" devices13:17
freemangordon:(13:18
HurrianI'm playing with my N9 to relieve some of the stress, but it simply isn't the same.13:19
HurrianTime to dig around for one, I guess.13:20
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freemangordonHurrian: well, maybe push harder on forward-porting hildon-desktop :). Not that it will bring fmtx and uSD slot13:22
Hurrian freemangordon: I was thinking of that, but damn, is the ancient glib build dependency making the build spit out build errors.13:24
HurrianOh well. I'll think on what to do, but I guess the N900 QEMU image will have to do for now.13:24
freemangordonHurrian: what functions newer glib lacks?13:25
Hurrianfreemangordon: not functions, it's the header files13:25
HurrianIIRC there was a post on tmo that described exactly the problem I was having13:25
freemangordonHurrian: but, but, .. did you try cordia one?13:25
freemangordonafaik that one should work13:26
HurrianNot the cordia ones, I didn't want to use GTK3 because it's half-broken.13:26
freemangordonaah, i see13:26
SpeedEvil'brand new' ones on eBay for $200. I guess these are HK refurbs13:26
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thedead1440got a mail from the ffmpeg maintainer:17:21
thedead1440It has been so long I couldn't even remember what Freemantle was. I stopped working on Maemo a long time ago.17:21
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merlin1991thedead1440: anything in that mail you can share in case somebody picks up on what you did?17:39
thedead1440merlin1991: he said good luck after that and hi before it :D17:39
thedead1440It has been so long I couldn't even remember what Freemantle was. I stopped working on Maemo a long time ago.17:40
thedead1440Good luck,17:40
thedead1440-Jeff17:40
merlin1991ah I thought that was from you :D17:40
merlin1991I missed the : :D17:40
thedead1440me? I'm no developer :D17:41
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tadzikdamn wagic. Sure, open a dialog which can't be closed and keeps downloading megabytes of data :/19:32
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zsolthello!how to import words to autocomplete dictionary?my goal is to import words from hunspell dict.20:59
zsoltbut got some errors with the headers21:00
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, good luck with that. dunno if it's even open21:32
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kerio~211922:03
infobotThe key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.22:03
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DocScrutinizer05hmm?22:32
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: needed that for a thing22:39
DocScrutinizer05qwazix_900: ping22:44
kerioDocScrutinizer05: should i buy a gta04?22:50
DocScrutinizer05dunno22:51
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kerioholy shit it costs a ton22:52
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DocScrutinizer05the inevitable downside of small volume22:59
DocScrutinizer05qwazix: ping23:00
DocScrutinizer05oops23:00
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DocScrutinizer05qwazix_900: PINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPING23:01
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qwazix_900DocScrutinizer05: I saw your ping, I'll ping you back later, can't right now.23:17
DocScrutinizer05ok23:18
DocScrutinizer05see PM23:18
DocScrutinizer05aka query23:18
DocScrutinizer05also see qwazix23:18
DocScrutinizer05or /whois qwazix23:18
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okiasHello, anyone from screenlocker devs?23:39
tadzikfreemangordon?23:40
okiasquestion: if I replace classic lock with new lockscreen app, why old is not possible to remove? how can be avoided running old lockscreen?23:40
tadzikdefine: new lockscreen23:40
okiasqt-lockscreen23:41
tadzikah, then nevermind me23:41
okiasno, its my bad23:41
keriotadzik: still relevant23:41
okiasI tried remove something "system" but then even qt-lockscreen stopped work23:42
okiasand when I left it there, it sometimes "blink" before qt-lockscreen, sometimes qt-lockscreen isn't displayed correctly and is displayed old lock23:42
okias(dammit, I should start thinking before writing)23:43
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