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| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: how to find hw revision>? :$ | 00:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | flasher will show you | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | or you can find it in err proc/cpu? | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | cat /proc/cpuinfo | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably --read-device-id, -i Print out the device type | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | tzorvas___: the hw-rev is in CAL aka NAND partition 2 | 00:24 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: hw rev 2101 :) | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | coldflashing needs this only as there might be no CAL at all when device is really "cold" alias empty | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | usual | 00:25 |
| tzorvas___ | hm | 00:25 |
| tzorvas___ | Using serial port /dev/ttyS0 tcgetattr: Input/output error | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr wut? | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | --serial-port, -S <arg> Serial port used for cold flashing or "usb" | 00:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | -S usb | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | also make damn sure your battery is fully charged ;-) | 00:27 |
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| tzorvas___ | fully fully?? :P | 00:28 |
| tzorvas___ | this is the error log http://sprunge.us/MZjh | 00:29 |
| tzorvas___ | from flasher-3.5 -c -h RX-51:2101 -F /media/A9D4-E539/RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | you've seen my last 4 lines here? | 00:30 |
| tzorvas___ | do i need -S ? :$ | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, it seems to target your problem, no? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | --serial-port, -S <arg> Serial port used for cold flashing or "usb" | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | flasher-3.5 --help might do exactly that: help | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | sometimes even -U is useful | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh, and of course you need to start flasher first, THEN plug in USB to device in off-state | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | otherwise I guess ROM bootloader will not get detected by flasher | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and other than NOLO "normal flashing" there's no "hold U key" to enable coldflashing mode | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ROM BL will ping USB just one time, and if there's no immediate echo, it will go on and load NOLO | 00:36 |
| tzorvas___ | ah so maybe this is the problem | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | which doesn't help for *flashing* NOLO | 00:36 |
| tzorvas___ | because i tried flasher-3.5 -c -h RX-51:2101 --usb-device=002:046 -F /media/A9D4-E539/RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f and i had the same problem | 00:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I gather you should also use -S usb | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno if flasher is smart enough to assume implicit -S usb when -U is given | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd even try without -U/--usb-device for now | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | 46 looks odd | 00:38 |
| tzorvas___ | paste.kde.org/425576/ is the output i dont understand if it did anything there | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | sigh | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | please paste again with http: | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | post again | 00:40 |
| tzorvas___ | http://paste.kde.org/425576/ | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | tnx | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | doesn't look that bad, no idea if it worked, I never did a coldflash yet | 00:41 |
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| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: crap i did it :P | 00:42 |
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| tzorvas___ | i removed the battery while in usb connection (with -S usb) and it did the trick | 00:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe you got problems with your PC as usual: modprobe -r cdc_ether cdc_phonet | 00:42 |
| tzorvas___ | waiting for the boot.. | 00:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'm quite sure nuttin changed, sorry for my pessimism | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | redo proper flashing of rootfs | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | and check for diagnostic output is what it should look like | 00:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (we've seen more than only a few dozen times when users *thought* they flashed but actually the flashing aborted prematurely, with e.g "no USB device found" | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw your error msg "Specified USB device not found." is *for sure* related to your --usb-device=002:046 while diagnostic output clearly says "USB device found found at bus 002, device address 048." | 00:46 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: http://http://paste.kde.org/425582/ :) | 00:47 |
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| tzorvas___ | crap.. still this issue with touchscreen | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 00:48 |
| tzorvas___ | i will go with dissasembling the whole n900 and cleaning everything .. hope so that something will change :s | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | prolly not, you'll most likely need a new touchpanel | 00:49 |
| tzorvas___ | HOLY CRAP | 00:49 |
| tzorvas___ | my laptop mobo died 2 months ago | 00:49 |
| tzorvas___ | and now this.. | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | but anyway you could either ty a drawing app and see where tp-driver thinks the current touchpoint is | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | or use proper diagnostic tools like xev(?) | 00:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or simply enable the mouse cursor | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can even do this in browser, if only your gesture for switching to cursor mode would work | 00:52 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: if i am able to open my device | 00:52 |
| tzorvas___ | :$ | 00:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | err wut? | 00:52 |
| tzorvas___ | i have a phone lock password and i cannot enter it .. :/ | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooohg, too bad | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | toldya you should try by all means to disable such thing that needs touch input to start up and operate device | 00:53 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: after flashing emmc shouldnt restore everything to the first state? (no phone lock passwords etc) | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | nope, lockcode is different | 00:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actually nasty | 00:55 |
| tzorvas___ | shit -.- | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | you might be able to disable lockcode by flashing both eMMC and rootfs | 00:55 |
| tzorvas___ | with flashing first emmc and after rootfs? | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | but then, you got a default config that's pretty useless without touch input and damn hard to tweak into a state where you at least can use wlan again | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | do me a favour - if you try flashing eMMC - and try command >> flasher -F VANILLA.bin -F COMBINED.bin -f | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder since almost years if flasher could flash both rootfs and eMMC in one step | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | or maybe | 00:59 |
| tzorvas___ | isnt that too risky? :$ | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | >> flasher -F COMBINED.bin -F VANILLA.bin -f | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | no risk at all | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | but better use 2nd form | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if it fails, do it the classic way as recommended at flashing wikipage | 01:00 |
| tzorvas___ | i am waiting for a fully charge again | 01:01 |
| tzorvas___ | :/ | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you want to do me an even bigger favour, you pastebin the output | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | lshal|grep voltage | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | battery.voltage.current = 4122 (0x101a) (int) | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | >4050 is just good enough | 01:02 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: but i cannot open my n900 :( | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | oooh | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I see | 01:02 |
| tzorvas___ | it sucks :$ | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | more than you know | 01:03 |
| tzorvas___ | in case of HW damage, is that what i need? http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Frame-Nokia-N900-/280719181900?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415c2ac84c | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least I'd think so | 01:05 |
| tzorvas___ | ok if thats all i will go also for a lens cover | 01:05 |
| tzorvas___ | because mine is pretty f*cked up :$ (full of scratches) | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah the photo down the page is better, yes that'S it | 01:06 |
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| user__ | Hello! How can I disable an IMAP e-mail account on the N900 without deleting that e-mail account? | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, not at all? | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can stop modest process | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | but that's probably not what you planned to do? | 01:09 |
| user__ | DocScrutinizer: well, I'd like to receive e-mail notifications (e.g. vibrations) over the day, but at night, I'd prefer to sleep (and just want to be woken by SMS or phone calls) | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | nasty problem | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | you might stop modest | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | sth like that | 01:09 |
| user__ | that's kind'a bad | 01:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, not kill -sigstop but actually terminate the process | 01:10 |
| user__ | especially because modest is just the "interface" to the IMAP server (e.g. if I have a desktop computer at hand, I can use this one instead) | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, you ost me | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | lost* | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | in /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop comment out the lines >>X-Maemo-Prestarted=always >>X-Maemo-Prestarted-Priority=2000 | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | this keeps modest from starting automatically on bootup | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | you need to click the icon to start it | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | you also could quit it, though I have nfc how to do that in a gentle way, other than >>kill modest | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | closing the window will just daemonize modest but the process runs in background | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | which is what wakes you at night | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | as long as the two lines as of above are in modest.desktop, hildon will restart the process as soon as you kill modest | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | supposedly there's also Maemo-Prestarted=true, but that doesn't work, they stopped implementation halfway | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually X-Maemo-Pre.... | 01:20 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: if i finally make it out to power on my n900 is there any way to calibrate my screen from keyboard only? :$ | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL @ Nokia for closely reading the freedesktop.org specs of .desktop format: "Version=3.1" in modest.desktop | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | tzorvas___: not afaik | 01:24 |
| user__ | DocScrutinizer: well, for now, I have just changed the password stored such that modest cannot successfully login into the IMAP server | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | tzorvas___: well, you can start the calibration tool via xterm. But how wuld you start xterm first instance? maybe shift-ctrl-x on kbd | 01:24 |
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| tzorvas___ | yes thats the combination | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | user__: so what's the use of that? | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | now you can do ... what? | 01:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | run modest and read old mails while it doesn't check for new ones so you don'T get distrubed while sleepoing while reading old mails? | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | kill modest | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | done | 01:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | only if you comment out the auto-(re)start lines from .desktop | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | click icon of modest -> process starts, good you are for whole day as modest checks mail in background until you kill it again | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nota bene all this is not tested theoretic work, that only is confirmed for the way those two lines work. I never looked into modest indeep | 01:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but for all I can tell, all you need to do is comment out the two lines in modest.desktop, and maybe get a stop-modest icon (or queeen-beecon button) that does "killall modest" | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | though for fist POC you can issue the >>killall modest<< from xterm | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | first* | 01:32 |
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| user__ | DocScrutinizer: the use is: I do not get notifications all the time, and I can enable|disable the notifications by using the UI (no need to hack some configuration files) | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ohyeah | 01:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whatever you like | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't ask me for solutions if you got the optimal one already :-/ | 01:35 |
| * DocScrutinizer idly wonders if user__ thinks entering wrong password is not "hacking config file" in the end | 01:37 | |
| DocScrutinizer | OMG | 01:37 |
| * DocScrutinizer truns away, pissed | 01:38 | |
| merlin1991 | huh? | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: user__ asked for a way to stop modest from nagging at night with new mail notifications. But editing modest.desktop to keep hildon from restarting modest process immediately after you do a "killall modest" been "too much hacking config files" for him | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | user__: he prefers to "use UI to set incorrect password" | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: ^^ | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | I really need to reach Sc0rpius | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | there's a lot of stuff with modest he could look at but seems to be mia | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E "please how can I change X, without changing anything?" | 01:47 |
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| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: yes maybe i am crazy | 01:49 |
| tzorvas___ | but after a fully charge i am able to use touchscreen | 01:49 |
| tzorvas___ | -.- | 01:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that can not be related | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless God changed physics | 01:50 |
| tzorvas___ | but only after a full recharge i am able to use this touchscreen | 01:50 |
| tzorvas___ | :o | 01:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | touchscreen is two plastic films separated by oil. it may recover from sticking together, when you warm it up or let it rest for a while | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | both effects only loosely coupled to charge state of battery ;-) | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course you might suffer form a *really* _weird_ hw defect in your N900 mainboard, that somehow links battery voltage to touchpanel or tp-controller. I'd really love to investigate such hw-defect in depth | 01:53 |
| tzorvas___ | 0h god | 01:53 |
| tzorvas___ | all my mobos are gonna crazy | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably the recover time + warmth that your charging gave to tp made it recover a bit | 01:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, I was kidding, there's no such hw-defect that would link battery voltage to tp | 01:54 |
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| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: hm... | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet your digitizer is worn | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | the oil tends to become sticky with time | 01:55 |
| tzorvas___ | humidity would be a reason? | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, definitely | 01:55 |
| tzorvas___ | oh holy crap! | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | if humidity diffuses thru the plastic film of digitizer, it can form droplets inside the oil film and short the two electric planes, even when the films don't touch | 01:57 |
| tzorvas___ | so my digitizer should have gonna crazy | 01:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's what I expect to see when you start some drawing app | 01:57 |
| tzorvas___ | my n900 is in 3rd year of use.. i am in a island with avg 75% humidity | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | or mouse cursor | 01:57 |
| tzorvas___ | do you know whats the drawing apps name in n900? so i can call it from inside an xterm? | 01:58 |
| tzorvas___ | (i also have to disable phone password) | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | 75% air humidity shouldn't do any harm. Condensing humidity though may cause problems | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, there's no stock app afaik | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | you probably need to install something | 01:59 |
| nid0 | there is a drawing app on the n900 as standard | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | there is? | 01:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | look, I'm starting to get stupid about "too much used to it" | 01:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, called sketch or sth like that | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/osso_sketch | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | tzorvas___: ^^^ | 02:01 |
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| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: it seems like i am tapping in a specific point | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | you actually do? | 02:04 |
| tzorvas___ | in another one.. :P | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | or "it seems" like "it pretends"? | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, it shows wrong point? | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | offset | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | try calibrating screen | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | my ps when running tscalib: /usr/bin/tscalibrate cpanel 65011737 | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc what the parameters mean | 02:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | fun thing: it closed automatically after ~2min idle | 02:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dang, autocloses immediately after starting from xterm | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | wait | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe I shouldn't do that as root ;-) | 02:09 |
| tzorvas___ | DocScrutinizer: http://draw.to/D4hI0EW something like this | 02:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, I more and more suspect a hw defect | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | in digitizer | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | possibly water, possibly sticky (oxidized) oil, maybe mere wear and deformation of the plastic film | 02:11 |
| tzorvas___ | permission denied for tscalibrate | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | weird | 02:12 |
| tzorvas___ | holy crap and i dont have gainroot installed for sudo su | 02:12 |
| tzorvas___ | oh sudo tscalibrate worked | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | root | 02:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/tscalibrate cpanel 65011737 | 02:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or that :-D | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | you probably should've made a backup of your prev (possibly sane) calib config file | 02:14 |
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| tzorvas___ | i can tap for 1st point but not for second :/ | 02:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | don't ask me where it lives and what's its name | 02:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tzorvas___: you got touchscreen audio clicks enabled? | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, tscalibrate rejects input that's just too weird | 02:16 |
| tzorvas___ | audio and vibration also | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | so when your digitizer is borked, it will not accept that as calibration I guess | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | get a new digitizer! | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | additional benefit: your 2screen" looks like new after swapping digitizer :-) | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/2/"/ | 02:18 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: additional benefit: your "screen" looks like new after swapping digitizer :-) | 02:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | tell me if the shop is OK, I like to get one or two for myself as well, as spare just in case | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | N900 spare part support starting to get sparse | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | USD 27 seems a nice price | 02:21 |
| tzorvas___ | but i will have to pay taxes for shipping inside europe | 02:21 |
| tzorvas___ | :/ | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd have to be crazy to get virkuti screen protector for 20 bucks ;-) | 02:22 |
| tzorvas___ | i will go with disassembly & assembly the whole n900 first and if nothing happened i will go with trying digitizer from another phone and after that i will order a new one | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds insane | 02:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | doubling risk for disassembling "other phone" | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | also please first check wiki hw pages, and get the L1_L2 service manual | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | about disassembly | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | be *careful* with the flat ribbon cable between screen and main, and esp the connector at mainboard end | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't bend or pull! | 02:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | use a plastic credit card to disconnect the connector from mainboard | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | get some beer prior to re-assembly. Plugging the connector is really tricky | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | otoh it's definitely no good idea to not unplug it, as you'll inevitably pull the cable then, when handling with screen half | 02:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if you can afford, get new screws as recommended in service manual | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | the exact size and type is in service manual as well | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | also, while you got the rocks disassembled, consider | 02:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~usbfix | 02:31 |
| infobot | [usbfix] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 02:31 |
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| HaXeri | any ideas how to solder n900 usb cable back | 09:49 |
| HaXeri | should I just take it to warranty | 09:50 |
| HaXeri | or do they give me some crappy symbian phone as replacement | 09:50 |
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| Macer | i had a buddy try it ofor me | 09:52 |
| Macer | couldnt get it | 09:52 |
| Macer | warranty might send you an e7 | 09:52 |
| Macer | unless you bitch and moan that you want your n900 back | 09:53 |
| HaXeri | yeah | 09:53 |
| Macer | i wound up just getting a new n900 off ebay | 09:53 |
| Macer | for $250 | 09:53 |
| HaXeri | my n900 cost 120€ | 09:53 |
| Macer | and kept the old one for parts if necessary | 09:53 |
| Macer | thats not bad | 09:54 |
| Macer | about 200US? | 09:54 |
| Macer | buying one new is expensive | 09:54 |
| Macer | i got lucky with my ebay purchase | 09:54 |
| HaXeri | but it shouldn't be that bad job to solder the usb back if the warranty wont get me new one | 09:54 |
| Macer | it really was a brand new n900 | 09:54 |
| Macer | these guys will say no | 09:54 |
| Macer | from my experience it is | 09:54 |
| Macer | for my new one i jusgt got a battery charger and an extra battery to avoid using the port unless i needed to flash | 09:55 |
| HaXeri | okay | 09:55 |
| Macer | best of luck | 09:56 |
| HaXeri | will my battery explode if i try to charge it with my e90 or something | 09:56 |
| Macer | does the e90 use a bl-5j? | 09:56 |
| HaXeri | yeah | 09:56 |
| Macer | then no | 09:57 |
| Macer | heh | 09:57 |
| HaXeri | so it wont expode or it will? | 09:57 |
| Macer | it will not | 09:57 |
| Sicelo | :P | 09:57 |
| HaXeri | no e90 uses bp-4l | 09:57 |
| Macer | oh | 09:57 |
| Macer | then i doubt it will even fit | 09:57 |
| Macer | you can get a crappy made in china bl-5j chafrger for $5 | 09:58 |
| Macer | charger | 09:58 |
| HaXeri | yeah but i cant wait that long to get it | 09:58 |
| Macer | mine was $6Us with a battery | 09:58 |
| Macer | dont know what to say. a few guys here say soldering that usb port back on is childs play | 09:59 |
| Macer | i had no luck with it | 09:59 |
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| HaXeri | but it will void your warranty | 09:59 |
| Macer | yes | 09:59 |
| Macer | but you have to wait on the warranty as well | 10:00 |
| Macer | and they will try to force feed you an e7 | 10:00 |
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| Macer | you have to make it perfectly clear you want an n900 back heh | 10:01 |
| HaXeri | yup | 10:01 |
| Macer | and even then they will fight you about it | 10:01 |
| HaXeri | i should call them to be sure of it | 10:01 |
| Macer | e7 really isnt a bad phone gho | 10:01 |
| Macer | tho | 10:01 |
| Macer | it just isnt an n900 ;) | 10:02 |
| HaXeri | yeah it isn't that bad | 10:02 |
| Macer | i was actually going to buy one just to buy one | 10:02 |
| HaXeri | but i cant nmap with it | 10:02 |
| Macer | as a spare go out phone | 10:02 |
| Macer | true heh | 10:02 |
| Macer | cant do a lot with it | 10:02 |
| Macer | you probably could if you could dev with symbian | 10:03 |
| HaXeri | yeah, symbian nowdays has qt, python etc. | 10:03 |
| HaXeri | but i want linux | 10:03 |
| Macer | but from what ive heard while it is a great mobile os.. it is difficult to dev with | 10:03 |
| Macer | because of the shymbian part | 10:03 |
| Macer | symbian has a pretty strong following tho | 10:04 |
| Macer | it is like webos.. not a bad os... just overshadowed by android and ios | 10:04 |
| Macer | like every other mobile os | 10:04 |
| Macer | except for wkindows | 10:04 |
| Macer | that os just sucks heh | 10:04 |
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| dhbiker | Macer: seriously ? E7 ? | 10:20 |
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| HaXeri | yeees | 10:25 |
| HaXeri | they said i could take my phone to local nokia repair | 10:26 |
| Macer | dhbiker: yes | 10:26 |
| HaXeri | and they will contact me if they plan to change my phone to symbian | 10:26 |
| Macer | a few people have complained that nokia keeps trying to push an e7 on them as a replacemrnt for n900s | 10:26 |
| Macer | HaXeri: tell them no | 10:27 |
| Macer | heh | 10:27 |
| HaXeri | yeah | 10:27 |
| Macer | say you want a new one or the cash equal to one | 10:27 |
| Macer | meaning money payout for the amazon brand new one for $900 | 10:27 |
| Macer | lol | 10:27 |
| Macer | skype sells them too | 10:27 |
| Macer | last i checked | 10:27 |
| HaXeri | i just say i want nokia n9 or lumia if they cant repair it | 10:28 |
| HaXeri | or cash moneys of course | 10:28 |
| HaXeri | but price of e7 is equal to n900... | 10:29 |
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| dhbiker | i rather take N9 | 10:29 |
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| dhbiker | than any other shitty WP7 or symbian phone | 10:29 |
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| HaXeri | well i could get bitches if i got lumia as replacement | 10:30 |
| dhbiker | so i guess i need to buy a replacement phone just in case | 10:31 |
| dhbiker | <.> | 10:32 |
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| edheldil | HaXeri: I can tell only from the bus stop ads, but is not Lumia's WP7 UI *ugly* as hell? | 11:01 |
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| vi___ | hello | 15:09 |
| vi___ | who wants to compile the latest version of mplayer with all features as a static binary? | 15:09 |
| LaoLang_cool | I want a vim verion 7.3 on maemo... | 15:10 |
| vi___ | version 7.2 not enough for ya? | 15:10 |
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| HaXeri | they told me that i'd get a new e7 as replacement | 16:26 |
| HaXeri | so i refused and they will ask nokia if they can replace it with n9 | 16:27 |
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| HaXeri | etrunko: dunno about UI, i tested it on local shop and the touch screen was best i've tried | 17:14 |
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| HaXeri | can i use some random nokia battery on my n900 | 20:19 |
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| beford | bl5j battery | 20:39 |
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| Gear_ | hey | 21:57 |
| Gear_ | what's the best mapping app? | 21:57 |
| Gear_ | for turn by turn city applications | 21:57 |
| Gear_ | voice instructions would be good too, I've tried marble but that doesn't take you straight to the address | 21:58 |
| Gear_ | mappero does take me to the address, but the instructions are sometimes wrong, and it doesn't speak english | 21:58 |
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| ethernetic | hi guys | 22:52 |
| ethernetic | :) | 22:52 |
| beford | hi | 22:52 |
| ethernetic | anyone here? | 22:53 |
| beford | just 300 users. | 22:53 |
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| ethernetic | everyone's idling :D | 22:54 |
| ethernetic | LOL | 22:54 |
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| beford | yeah well :P | 22:56 |
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| lxp1 | Pali: i have compiled the wl1251 driver for power49+pre50 | 22:58 |
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| ethernetic | uh | 23:00 |
| ethernetic | i hate the close app transition | 23:01 |
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| Pali | lxp1, thanks! | 23:01 |
| Pali | lxp1, do you have scripts/commands for building? | 23:02 |
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| lxp1 | Pali: http://david.gnedt.eu/wl1251/wl1251-maemo-0.2-power49+pre50.tar.gz | 23:02 |
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| lxp1 | but i haven't tested the modules | 23:03 |
| Pali | ok | 23:03 |
| lxp1 | it required some quirks because i use a x86 scratchbox system for compiling | 23:04 |
| lxp1 | and kernel-power-headers contains some x86-64 executables | 23:04 |
| Pali | I'm compiling kernel-power pre versions with madde | 23:04 |
| lxp1 | i haven't worked with madde so far | 23:05 |
| Pali | and my system is 64bit - so maybe some tools is not compiled with cross compiler | 23:05 |
| Pali | but for kernel is not madded needed | 23:05 |
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| Pali | only cross compiler | 23:05 |
| Pali | (for creating deb package is madde or scratchbox needed) | 23:05 |
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| lxp1 | the new modules also contain 2 additional patches | 23:07 |
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| lxp1 | the first patch adds the netlink interface for loading the calibration data | 23:08 |
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| lxp1 | and the second fixes a issue with packet statistics in monitor mode | 23:09 |
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| kwtm | Hi! Need urgent help - am in a hotel with 30 minutes to go before I catch a flight. If I want my n900 to act as an Internet access point, what linux package (Ubuntu in my case) should I be googling for/installing? | 23:09 |
| kwtm | I.e. I will have no Internet access in the place, but I want my wife's iPad to be able to see my n900 as an access point and connect to it (maybe thinking it's a router or ISP). It's not DHCPd that I'm looking for, is it? | 23:10 |
| ShadowJK | mobile hotspot | 23:12 |
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| ShadowJK | as it modifies things critical in starting up n900, I recommend making backup before installing | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | now if you ask "how can I do a backup?" - install backupmenu | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't get the "linux package (Ubuntu in my case)" part, though | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK and me are talking about N900 apps | 23:17 |
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| kwtm | ShadowJK: Thx, will look up the name of the package and install. Hmmm.. sounds a bit risky if I'm relying on my n900 during travel ... | 23:19 |
| kwtm | ShadowJK: How can I download the package (from root command line) without installing, and then later decide whether to isntall during a time when I don't have Internet? | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/mobilehotspot/ | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get install -d mobilehotspot | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | -d Download only - do NOT install or unpack archives | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | nota bene it needs powerkernel, and you should check if above command gets those pkgs as well (I think it has to be three of them: PK, PK-modules, PK-flasher. Sth like that) | 23:26 |
| lxp1 | Pali: should i also upload the compat-wireless and wireless-testing repositories i use for building the driver? | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | kernel-power - Flashable Linux kernel (kernel power 2.6.28.10) | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | kernel-power-modules - Linux kernel modules for kernel power 2.6.28.10 | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | kernel-power-flasher - Linux kernel updater (kernel power 2.6.28.10) | 23:27 |
| Pali | lxp1, upload full source code tree | 23:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, I'm not an expert, but could you try to use git when doing kernel hacking? | 23:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | >>batterypatch-for-unstable - BatteryPatch For unstable devices<< LOL, sounds about right ;-P | 23:50 |
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