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| trumee | DocScrutinizer: ping | 00:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | trumee: pong | 00:27 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: do you know if an internal hard disk can be exposed via usb? | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | mass storage mode? | 00:28 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: My tv has a usb port and it can write to a usb disk | 00:28 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: yes | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, what's the question exactly? | 00:29 |
| trumee | i was wondering if i can connect my computer usb to the tv's usb | 00:29 |
| trumee | and use computers internal harddisk. | 00:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hardly, as your computer has a USB host, no peripheral | 00:29 |
| trumee | right, that is what i wanted to know. so there is no way to go about this? | 00:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there are way, but you don't want to do this | 00:30 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, ping | 00:30 |
| trumee | freemangordon: pong | 00:31 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: does it involve hardware mod? | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | I will need a couple of minutes to build a (hopefully) fixed kernel, is there any chance you to test it | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | or expensive kinky adapters | 00:32 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ran out of time today, but can do it tomorrow. | 00:32 |
| freemangordon | ok, will post a link on KP thread | 00:32 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: any guide or links will be usefull | 00:33 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: or even google search term | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | trumee: forget it, not worth the effort and expense | 00:33 |
| dhbiker | DocScrutinizer: i'm already studying/reading all that stuff | 00:33 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: ok | 00:33 |
| dhbiker | :> | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | your best "adapter" is an external USB HDD | 00:34 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: right. | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there are USB host2host adapters, to link two PCs together, but they use expensive MCU driven mini peripheral-proxy inside, and need special drivers on both hosts | 00:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | AFAIK there are some SATA adapters that allow firewire and USB semi-concurrently | 00:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there might also be automatic USB mux switches, that expose the peripheral to the USB host that first does some ENUM | 00:39 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: thanks for the pointers | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you will not be happy with any of those | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | get a el-cheapo USB HDD | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | and move it between PC and TV | 00:40 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: well my mythtv box is setting next to the tv. it has lot of harddisk space, i was hoping to use some of it directly with the tv | 00:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well then you actually might consider getting a USB-peripheral adapter card for the mythtv | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | or do some hw hacking to mod a USB host card to periph | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | you still would need a transparent storage emulator, the thing we are somethimes missing on N900 so we can't access the eMMC internally while it's exposed to USB mass storage | 00:44 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: cheers | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | even if you'd get such a magic driver, I still don't see how your mythtv would learn to flush disk buffers and reread the possibly changed HDD content via filesystem driver | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | each filesystem driver always assumes exclusive control over the storage medium | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | (except NFS of course) | 00:46 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer: i guess i will stick with an external usb hdd :) | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | toldya you don't want to go that path | 00:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 00:47 |
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| oilinki | good morning. quick question. where on the filesystem the N900 images with camera are located? | 05:32 |
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| oilinki | some say that those are supposed to be on /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM but there is no files. yet I can see the images with GUI Photo application | 05:37 |
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| LaoLang_cool | oilinki: .camera | 05:39 |
| LaoLang_cool | or DCIM on sd card | 05:39 |
| LaoLang_cool | .camera/ is on MyDocs/ | 05:39 |
| newbie007 | hi, I'm trying to create a desktop widget. I'm following the code from example-desktop-widget-0.2.0. Everything was going well until I tried installing it a few more times. I can't seem to remove it now. The error message I'm getting is here: http://www.fpaste.org/DZuo/ Any ideas to get this removed? | 05:40 |
| oilinki | I don't have that directory. really puzzled. | 05:40 |
| oilinki | I'll check the memory card if the images are somewhere there | 05:40 |
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| oilinki | LaoLang_cool: thanks for the tip. the images are for some reason on the memory card. I did not know that. /media/mmc1/DCIM | 05:41 |
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| LaoLang_cool | oilinki: if sd card is unavailable, it will be located on MyDocs/.camera IIRC | 05:41 |
| oilinki | LaoLang_cool: ok. I'll better to remove the memory card as I wish to store the images on the device itself. | 05:44 |
| LaoLang_cool | oilinki: ok, I'd like it to be on the memory card ;p | 05:44 |
| oilinki | Yes. I guess these are our preferences :) I think however my memory card was not mounted to my laptop when I connected the device with usb. | 05:45 |
| oilinki | anyway I wish to make a short rsync which will upload the images to my laptop or to NAS when the device is connected to home network | 05:46 |
| oilinki | ..lazy to copy the files manually :) | 05:46 |
| LaoLang_cool | looks nice | 05:48 |
| LaoLang_cool | We all lazy ^^ | 05:48 |
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| newbie007 | hi, I'm trying to create a desktop widget. I'm following the code from example-desktop-widget-0.2.0. Everything was going well until I tried installing it a few more times. I can't seem to remove it now. The error message I'm getting is here: http://www.fpaste.org/DZuo/ Any ideas to get this removed? | 06:12 |
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| newbie007 | is there a dev channel? | 06:15 |
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| newbie007 | I think the solution was to restart af-sb then restart scratchbox | 06:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oilinki: there's a chooser in camera app, lower left side icon | 08:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | pick your storage destination from internal and uSD card there | 08:42 |
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| Macer | StyXman: sorry but what was the nav app you said to try? | 08:55 |
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| Macer | marble? | 08:55 |
| Macer | marble + something for the audio | 08:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | monav, for routing | 09:12 |
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| massoud | hi dears, | 11:17 |
| massoud | i would like to completely clone one n900 to another n900 | 11:18 |
| massoud | what is the optimized way to do that (dd of the partitions?)?any maemo tools to do that? | 11:19 |
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| [DarkGUNMAN] | morning all | 11:24 |
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| Sicelo | massoud: i'd use BackupMenu | 11:49 |
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| massoud | Sicelo: thanks will use it as it seems to the solution | 12:49 |
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| [DarkGUNMAN] | afternoon all | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | trumee_afk, pink | 15:15 |
| freemangordon | trumee_afk, ping :D | 15:16 |
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| StyXman | Sicelo: you suggested BackupMenu for copying the contents of a n900 to another. any advantage over an rsync script? I have two for backing up/restoring mine | 16:05 |
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| Sicelo | well, i dunno.. i'm no guru. but i wonder how well rsync can work with a 'live' system. | 16:18 |
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| cehteh | you can rsync a live system, do it again, maybe twice (this time it will be fast since no much changes happen), then stop the system and rsync it once again finally | 16:21 |
| cehteh | but well this wont work well from inside the system you cant rsync a stopped system, works well with virtual servers, chroots and so on :) | 16:22 |
| cehteh | backup menu doesnt backup user data btw you need more than that, and there rsync might be an advantage, and you know certainly that you didnt changed the user data | 16:22 |
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| Cloud_ | Hi, there | 16:23 |
| Cloud_ | ! | 16:23 |
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| RST38h | A couple of Brits were unceremoniously ejected from the US last week after one of them ill-advisedly tweeted he was off to "destroy America" | 16:52 |
| RST38h | Mghm | 16:52 |
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| * RST38h has read about it all before | 16:53 | |
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| MohammadAG | or I fucked up, one of either | 16:58 |
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| totalizator | does NITDroid install new kernel? what does it modify in the original system? | 17:06 |
| keesj_ | Android requires kernel modifucations so my guess is that it mainly changes the boot process(e.g. add the chooser menu) | 17:08 |
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| MohammadAG | MultiBoot flashes a new kernel | 17:13 |
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| totalizator | ok, how does it differs from the stock one? | 17:23 |
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| MohammadAG | no idea, ask on #nitdroid | 17:23 |
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| RST38h | Mohammad: Pastebin | 17:30 |
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| totalizator | MohammadAG: you're right, thanks! | 17:35 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, I figured it out with a cheap trick I guess | 17:49 |
| MohammadAG | but sure | 17:49 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, http://pastebin.com/5fnxBs1t | 17:51 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, problem is without the class ProfilePage (while still including profilepage.h in the .h file) errors out | 18:01 |
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| freemangordon | trumee_afk, ping | 18:27 |
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| trumee | freemangordon, pong | 19:37 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, I will upload hopefully BT handsfree fixed kernel-power in several minuts, is it possible to test it? | 19:44 |
| trumee | freemangordon, yes. | 19:45 |
| trumee | freemangordon, is that with BT debug set? | 19:45 |
| trumee | ~ping | 19:46 |
| infobot | ~pong | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | nope, it should fix the bug. BTW can you try the one from http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6 in the meantime | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | trumee ^^^ | 19:47 |
| trumee | freemangordon, not atm. should be home in about 20 mins | 19:48 |
| trumee | freemangordon, shitty 3g internet on the train | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | trumee ok, will wait for your report. If it does not fix the bug, I will upload a new one, which will fix it for sure | 19:49 |
| trumee | freemangordon, somebody gave you feedback on tmo. is this a newer build to that one? | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | no, the same | 19:50 |
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| freemangordon | but I want a confirmation that it does not solve the issue from you | 19:51 |
| trumee | freemangordon, ok | 19:51 |
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| ruskie | http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/30/dutch_mobile_retailer_typhone_posts_nokia_lumia_910_spec/ | 20:17 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: ping | 20:29 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, pong | 20:41 |
| trumee | freemangordon: seems to be fixed | 20:41 |
| freemangordon | seems? | 20:41 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: yes it is fixed | 20:41 |
| trumee | only had one issue | 20:41 |
| freemangordon | good, that is why I wanted your confirmation. | 20:42 |
| freemangordon | trume, what issue? | 20:42 |
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| freemangordon | trumee ^^^ | 20:42 |
| trumee | turn on headset, click on BT in status menu. | 20:42 |
| trumee | click on devices, select BH214, click connect. N900 says connection failed | 20:43 |
| freemangordon | that's normal AFAIK, you should initiate the connectio from handsfree itself | 20:43 |
| trumee | freemangordon: you mean, turn N900 BT first before turning on headset? | 20:44 |
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| freemangordon | ..or push the connect button on the handsfree | 20:45 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: Nokia BH214 doesnt have a connect button | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | well, how do you pair it then | 20:45 |
| trumee | freemangordon: it is already paired and is a trusted device | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | I mean, my platronics has only one button, but it has different functions dependin on how long you hold it pressed | 20:46 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, is it the same with stock kernel? | 20:46 |
| trumee | freemangordon: hang on a minute | 20:47 |
| trumee | freemangordon: this is not reproducable. only 1 in 5 times did it fail | 20:47 |
| trumee | freemangordon: so i wont worry about this. | 20:47 |
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| trumee | maybe BT has to be alive for sometime before negotation happens | 20:49 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: crap | 20:49 |
| trumee | freemangordon: it is not working anymore | 20:50 |
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| Pali | kernel-power packages was promoted to extras-testing! | 20:50 |
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| Pali | see first post in kernel-power thread | 20:50 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ok, button stopped responding for a few seconds. and i lost a2dp | 20:51 |
| trumee | freemangordon: but then it started working again | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | trumee, is there any difference compared with stock kernel? | 20:52 |
| trumee | freemangordon: did not have issues like this with stock | 20:53 |
| trumee | freemangordon: i think this kernel needs a bit of testing before we can conclude this works | 20:53 |
| trumee | freemangordon: i am not sure what suddenly triggered the loss of a2dp | 20:54 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: but it is behaving much better compared to KP49 | 20:55 |
| trumee | freemangordon: KP49 was unusable | 20:55 |
| freemangordon | trumee, ok, let me upload a new kernel, this one should have all issues fixed | 20:56 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6 | 20:57 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, I need your feedback to decide which of two patches I have here is better. I am not pushing you, take your time :) | 21:08 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ok, i have flashed the new kernel | 21:12 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: i like the new one better :) | 21:16 |
| trumee | freemangordon: cannot be sure, but it seems that stock mediaplayer resumes better after a call | 21:16 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, well, I will send that patch to pali for inclusion in KP50, if any issue arose, please post it on KP thread ont TMO. Thanks a lot for your cooperation | 21:19 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: sure will do that. Thanks for working on this. | 21:20 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: does this replace the bt-mice patch? | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | yep | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | do you want the new one? | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | trumee ^^^ | 21:21 |
| trumee | freemangordon: yes please | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | ok, I will upload it on the same place as .debs, just give me a minut | 21:21 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ok | 21:21 |
| Sicelo | kewl Pali | 21:21 |
| trumee | freemangordon: but i think i will have to wait before using kp49/50 until the video issue is sorted out | 21:22 |
| trumee | freemangordon: cant live without podcasts :) | 21:22 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, patch uploaded here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6 | 21:23 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: thanks | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | trumee, you mean videos from http://feeds.feedburner.com/cnet/top5?format=xml? | 21:25 |
| trumee | freemangordon: yes | 21:25 |
| freemangordon | you can workaround it by installing 720p support | 21:25 |
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| trumee | freemangordon: i am afraid of breaking other stuff, so i kept away from the new codecs | 21:26 |
| freemangordon | well, it is up to you :D. But I am using it on my primary device, no issues so far. | 21:26 |
| trumee | freemangordon: i dont overclock either. | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | you don't have to | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | actually harmattan codecs seem better optimized than stock | 21:28 |
| trumee | freemangordon: do you think 720p+kp will go into CSSU, or kp alone? | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | only KP until someone find how to distribute the codecs with CSSU | 21:28 |
| trumee | freemangordon: right, then kp will need a fix to play the videos without 720p codecs | 21:29 |
| trumee | freemangordon: do you think a fix is possible to play these videos with installing 720p codecs? | 21:30 |
| trumee | s/with/without | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | trumee, the problem is not in KP AIUI, but in gst-dsp, still didn't have time to look at the issue, but anyway gst-dsp is OSS, so it can be fixed | 21:30 |
| trumee | freemangordon: right, then why is kp49 breaking gst-dsp unlike kp48? | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | because DSP driver in KP49 is the one from Harmattan, while DSP driver in KP48 is much older | 21:32 |
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| freemangordon | i.e. something like 2.6.32 agains 2.6.30 | 21:33 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ok i see. | 21:33 |
| trumee | freemangordon: is that something which can be reverted easily in kp49? | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | nope | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | DSP patch is about 2MB, and there is a lot of code written by me | 21:35 |
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| freemangordon | trumee, there will be fix, trust me on that ;) | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | (tm) | 21:36 |
| trumee | freemangordon: ok, will wait for your fix then. :) | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | yeah, that will be the next issue I will look in | 21:36 |
| trumee | freemangordon: cheers, you rock! | 21:37 |
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| pronto | so, at shmoocon last night(lobbycon), i ran into like 5 people with n900's o_o | 21:56 |
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| ruskie | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Spark-tablet-announced/ <-- hmm | 23:13 |
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| MohammadAG | indeed | 23:19 |
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| MohammadAG | interested in it, but RAM's meh | 23:19 |
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| Macer | ruskie: that thing looks pretty cool | 23:32 |
| Macer | and i am a big fan of kde :) | 23:32 |
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| ruskie | I'll be getting it since at that price point it's possibly cheaper than getting a raspberry pi+usb/hdmi touchscreen | 23:35 |
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| ruskie | to use for a bedside computer and such | 23:35 |
| ruskie | and imho it is the perfect size | 23:35 |
| * SpeedEvil sort-of-wants to support the hardware. | 23:37 | |
| SpeedEvil | I guess if things go right on monday I can. | 23:37 |
| ShadowJK | What happens monday? | 23:39 |
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| ruskie | project completion or something possibly ;) | 23:41 |
| ruskie | or payday or something ;) | 23:41 |
| MohammadAG | 200 euros, guess I'll start saving | 23:43 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, or sell the N950 for, one million dollars! | 23:44 |
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| SpeedEvil | Appeal against benefit decision last January. | 23:44 |
| ruskie | I'll be spending 210 eur for a n900 next month | 23:45 |
| MohammadAG | another one? | 23:46 |
| ruskie | only have one | 23:46 |
| ruskie | haven't bought a second one for backup | 23:46 |
| ruskie | yet | 23:46 |
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| merlin1991 | ruskie: 210 is a lil high for a used device | 23:58 |
| merlin1991 | you can get proper ones for ~ 150 | 23:58 |
| ruskie | not used | 23:58 |
| ruskie | new with a full 2 year warranty | 23:58 |
| merlin1991 | ah okay 210 is ok for that :D | 23:58 |
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