badcloud_ | is there some way to enlarge the icons in claws-mail on the right side of incomming messages (headers, text, html, attachment, etc.)? | 00:00 |
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badcloud_ | they're so very very small | 00:00 |
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swedgin | can anyone help me with installing software to Nokia N9? not exactly Maemo but this channel was closest I could find =P | 00:10 |
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SpeedEvil | #n9, I think also | 00:11 |
merlin1991 | swedgin: there is #n9 and #harmattan | 00:12 |
swedgin | okay i try those... thanks | 00:12 |
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DocScrutinizer | jonne: related to powerkernel, should be fixed in newest release afaik | 00:21 |
DocScrutinizer | ask freemangordon | 00:21 |
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DocScrutinizer | *COUGH* | 00:25 |
DocScrutinizer | HAH | 00:25 |
DocScrutinizer | WB everybody | 00:26 |
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merlin1991 | anybody in here with a bit of graphical design skills willing to crate a cssu icon? | 00:41 |
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merlin1991 | with icon I mean something like http://talk.maemo.org/maemo/resources/meegocomp.jpg that promotes cssu | 00:42 |
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plur | this genfstab.awk is cracked out | 01:06 |
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SpeedEvil | It is. | 01:06 |
plur | my first attempt didnt result in any mounts (or a properly generated one) | 01:06 |
plur | my secont attempt has left 5-white-dots stuck forever | 01:06 |
plur | just trying to put a 32gb ext3 /home in there, after wiping the vfat | 01:06 |
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plur | hm, wonder if flasher -b single, or something like that | 01:08 |
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plur | can get me to a single user mode to try fixing it again w/o reflashing | 01:08 |
SpeedEvil | In principle you can load into RAM a kernel to boot off the SD | 01:08 |
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plur | may get a cross-compiler going ot try vanilla 3.1 linux | 01:10 |
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merlin1991 | plur: write the nemo release to an sdcard | 01:15 |
merlin1991 | and load the kernel with flasher-3.5 -l -b -k KERNELIMAGE | 01:16 |
merlin1991 | then go to the terminal in nemo mount rootfs and start fixing :) | 01:16 |
merlin1991 | that way I read mtd to recover my sisters lockcode without touching maemo :) | 01:17 |
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DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: you recovered lockcode? on PR1.3?? | 01:33 |
merlin1991 | yes | 01:33 |
DocScrutinizer | I agther it's been set sinde PR1.2 | 01:33 |
merlin1991 | it was encrytped | 01:33 |
merlin1991 | and set in 1.3 | 01:33 |
DocScrutinizer | as for all I know on PR1.3 you can't find it anymore in CAL | 01:33 |
merlin1991 | it's there in mtd1 I think | 01:34 |
merlin1991 | don't remember what kind of hash it was | 01:34 |
DocScrutinizer | nope, it's not | 01:34 |
merlin1991 | grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1 | 01:35 |
merlin1991 | that's what I used | 01:35 |
merlin1991 | I even tried on my pr 1.3 device by setting a code and cracking it afterwards | 01:35 |
DocScrutinizer | at least that cat mtd1|grep lockcode or whatever doesn't work anymore for all I know and seem to recall from own tests | 01:35 |
merlin1991 | worked just fine on mine and on the one of my sister | 01:36 |
DocScrutinizer | it seems on devices that flashed PR1.3 image it doesn'T work anymore. Though I really wonder when and how they would change it | 01:38 |
DocScrutinizer | still works on my up-to-date CSSU daily phone | 01:38 |
merlin1991 | well my device has 1.3 flashed and I did set a lockcode then and it worked | 01:38 |
DocScrutinizer | seems I have to delete or update/correct a tmo post of mine | 01:40 |
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DocScrutinizer | btw, do we still have a council? anybody heard of them? | 01:41 |
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merlin1991 | afaik there still is a council | 01:43 |
DocScrutinizer | was there a vote? | 01:43 |
merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | 01:43 |
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DocScrutinizer | seems rather quite | 01:49 |
DocScrutinizer | quiet* | 01:49 |
LaoLang_cool | morning! | 01:50 |
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ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/03/raspberry_pi_auction/ | 13:20 |
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RST38h | Crazy people | 13:21 |
RST38h | And the funny thing is, it is not even Cortex-based. Runs on a cheapo ARM11 | 13:22 |
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SpeedEvil | arm cortex has no mmu | 13:26 |
SpeedEvil | or at least not one capable of linux | 13:26 |
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dm8tbr | which cortex? M3? | 13:29 |
RST38h | Speed: OMAP3 andOMAP4 are both cortex based and have MMUs that satisfy Linux well enough | 13:30 |
* SpeedEvil thought otherwise. | 13:31 | |
SpeedEvil | Meh. | 13:31 |
RST38h | May have thought of some different cortex, like M3 for example | 13:32 |
SpeedEvil | possibly | 13:32 |
SpeedEvil | Arm are very silly with versioning. | 13:32 |
RST38h | Well, there is ISA generation and then there is part generation | 13:33 |
RST38h | Cortexes are ARMv7 ISA | 13:33 |
SpeedEvil | I mean the v7 / ARM9 marketing | 13:33 |
SpeedEvil | forex | 13:33 |
RST38h | ARM11 is ARMv6 ISA | 13:34 |
RST38h | ARM9 is ARMv5 ISA | 13:34 |
SpeedEvil | yeah | 13:34 |
SpeedEvil | exactly | 13:34 |
RST38h | ARM7 is ARMv4 ISA | 13:34 |
RST38h | If you see ARM<digits> this is a pre-Cortex part number and the first digits mean its generation (ARM7xx, ARM9xx, ARM11xx), the remaining digits map to onboard features | 13:35 |
RST38h | And the letters that come afterwards map to ISA features (such as J for Jazelle, T for Thumb, etc) | 13:35 |
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plate | does bootmenu have a -v flag or so? white-screen "booting off mmcblk0p1..." hang is uninformative | 14:33 |
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plate | i had this prob once before, and forget how i fixed it | 14:35 |
plate | might have been as trivial as toggling rd-mode status | 14:35 |
plate | or is U-boot the way to go now. it looks more maintained | 14:35 |
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plate | had to modprobe ext3 before maemo would mount my debian, so i half-wonder if its a catch22 with not having ext3 module due to unmount but i thought it would just mount journal-les was ext2 but without ay sort of verbose boot i have no clue whats going on | 14:39 |
plate | apt-get install bootmenu-n900 fails before even the fetch stage, and who knows if bootmenu package even has thr gith stuff. tried grabbing the former and dpkg -i'ing it, and it appears to be some empty shim/stub package anyways | 14:40 |
plate | maybe i'm making something too difficult but booting into proper Illume/E17 on Debian on N900 seemed ridiculously easy a year ago. didnt have any issues | 14:40 |
plate | only thing i changed was mkfs.ext3 using maemo's own tools a giant 32gb partition instead of the 2gb ext2 + 30gb vfat | 14:41 |
plate | anyone wanna trade for an iPhone ? | 14:41 |
plate | ive been messing around with linux since slackwar installs on floppy in 1994, but damn if i am not getting tired of it | 14:41 |
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guly | plate: i just migrate from vfat to ext2 (i feel unsafe using ext3 here) plain straight.. | 14:47 |
plate | my main issue is , genfstab.awk hacks unsuccessful so /opt is on / filling up 256mb already and no app or ~/ storage space | 14:48 |
plate | and, my debian isnt booting | 14:48 |
plate | i probaly should have mkfs.ext2'd rather than ext3 also | 14:48 |
guly | i didnot modified genfstab | 14:48 |
guly | let me see | 14:48 |
plate | theres bind-mount /home/opt stuff in in genfstab but it doesnt end up in the autogenerated /etc/fstab, not sure why | 14:49 |
plate | i think that "if $1 and type 83" is proably gettin thrown, i should check cfdisk and maybe ext2 is diff than ext3, 82 vs 83 or something (or maybe thats swap vs linux-primary) | 14:49 |
plate | seriously a VGA console so i could tell wtf is wrong would heop a lot :) | 14:50 |
guly | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73478 | 14:50 |
plate | i vaguely recall getting a full scrolly-verbose-boot somehow once | 14:50 |
plate | word | 14:50 |
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guly | about verbose boot IIRC there is some issue with framebuffer | 14:53 |
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plate | sed -i 's/\(| 1e\)/\1 |43|83/' /usr/sbin/osso-mmc-mount.sh <- llz | 14:54 |
plate | "just sed a shellscript" seems to be the running theme, same w/ genfstab.awk | 14:54 |
plate | whatever happened to vi /etc/fstab | 14:54 |
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* plate smacks maemo devs, probably long since rehired @ Intel to work on TizenMeegoMoblin V 37 | 14:55 | |
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plate | g++ and even large C files (auto parser-generators, scripting-lang-bindings) fill up 256mb of ram and end up thrashhing nicely | 14:57 |
* plate investigates Archos 4" tablets with Ubuntu out of the box and 1gb of ram | 14:57 | |
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plate | expr.c in groonga compiled for 24 hours and never finished, so i finally broke down and setup a cross-compiler just so i can search my emails. Yay yak-shaving | 15:02 |
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edheldil | what's the correct AGPS server now? supl.google.com? | 15:10 |
Sicelo | yes | 15:11 |
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edheldil | Sicelo: thanks | 15:31 |
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plate | ah, rewrote most of /etc/event.d/rcS-late to solve my mounting probs. gotta love a hackable semistandard OS | 16:39 |
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ruskie | http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/03/asus_asked_to_unlock_eee_pad_transformer_prime_bootloader/ | 17:49 |
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RST38h | asus_farts_loudly_when_asked_to_unlock_eee_pad_transformer_prime_bootloader | 17:50 |
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Pali | ~seen X-Fade | 18:18 |
infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (2d 20h 39m 8s) #harmattan (2d 20h 39m 8s) #meego (2d 20h 39m 8s), last said: 'gri: Security through obscurity is always a false sense.'. | 18:18 |
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baerli | ping baerli | 18:44 |
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Pali | ping onion | 19:23 |
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burt | u-boot mmc init = "no mmc found", eMMC (builtin 32gb) is mmcblk0p1 when kernel's loaded, hmm | 19:27 |
burt | i see a bug about NOLO not having kernel options, or something | 19:28 |
burt | if i could send root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 i'd be in business | 19:28 |
burt | /sbin/preinit seems like another hack, to chroot into it and bypass normal hildon-crap from starting up | 19:28 |
burt | would like to use vanila linux tho eventually | 19:28 |
burt | http://pkg-n900.alioth.debian.org/kernel/3.1-custom/ | 19:28 |
burt | but im using a u-boot with pancake patches with a sept 2010 version number | 19:29 |
burt | Pali: which git repo should i try for a newer u-boot, with your patches? | 19:29 |
burt | i see about 3-4 diff ml posts and repos and wondering what is what | 19:30 |
Pali | burt: repo http://gitorious.org/u-boot-shr/u-boot branch pali | 19:30 |
burt | aye | 19:30 |
Pali | some info is here: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot.txt | 19:30 |
NIN101 | <burt> would like to use vanila linux tho eventually <-- hmm, have fun and good luck :-). | 19:31 |
burt | i have a real simpl setup | 19:31 |
burt | debian on 32g internal flash / | 19:31 |
burt | ive previously used it with 2.6.28-maemo w/o probs | 19:31 |
burt | bootmenu decided to break and still fiddling with u-boot | 19:31 |
NIN101 | doesn't matter, vanila linux kernel won't boot on the N900 I think, at least there is no config for rx51 anymore. | 19:32 |
burt | looks like basically eveything but GPS is in vanilla now | 19:32 |
burt | and gps is some userspace serial thing | 19:32 |
burt | eg, that 3.1 on alioth probably supports most eveyrthing, in theory. i have yet ot try it tho | 19:32 |
Pali | see this: http://elinux.org/N900 | 19:32 |
Pali | state of upstreaming n900 drivers | 19:33 |
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NIN101 | looks promising | 19:34 |
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burt | Pali: is * eMMC (working only when commit 02f3029f1810b99869254d0cf0a71946a008a728 is reverted) accurate? | 20:10 |
burt | im wondering to try commit before that, or HEAD | 20:11 |
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Pali | burt: HEAD should be working | 20:12 |
burt | ok | 20:12 |
Pali | similar commit is in master now | 20:12 |
Pali | burt, eMMC is fixed in commit afd5932b2c27c750ba7dbe39125916a45d2e1c13 | 20:14 |
burt | good to hear | 20:14 |
burt | cloning taking a while, i'll try it out | 20:15 |
burt | pali pushed 628 commits to u-boot-shr/u-boot:master <- hardcore | 20:18 |
Pali | burt, that repo is also mirror of u-boot master repository (master branch) | 20:19 |
Pali | so when I rebasing patches on u-boot master, I need to push also u-boot master | 20:20 |
burt | must be busy w/ all ARM devices coming lately | 20:20 |
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Wizzup | Hm, I just installed u-boot and my n900 won't properly boot anymore | 21:03 |
Wizzup | Even staying in u-boot, it will quickly shut down | 21:03 |
burt | cool | 21:03 |
burt | watchdog i think | 21:03 |
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bru | you can disable hw-watchdog with flasher | 21:03 |
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Wizzup | right, so watchdag after all | 21:03 |
Wizzup | OK | 21:03 |
bru | i used instructions at https://elektranox.org/n900/kernel/uboot.html to 'mux' together a legcy maemo kernel | 21:04 |
Wizzup | dog* | 21:04 |
bru | that part worked, it falls back | 21:04 |
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Pali | bru, in my u-boot branch is watchdog problem fixed | 21:08 |
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bru | i think i needed https://elektranox.org/n900/files/uboot/patches/0004-Nokia-RX-51-aka-N900-support.patch still? | 21:11 |
bru | unless its hiding under a diff name | 21:11 |
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bru | well that patch is broken | 21:16 |
bru | board.c:270:18: error: 'CONFIG_SYS_INIT_SP_ADDR' undeclared (first use in this function) | 21:16 |
bru | can i just pass root= to a NOLO/whatever kernel somehow | 21:16 |
bru | im cool w/ using 2.6.28-maemo on debian for now | 21:16 |
NIN101 | yes | 21:16 |
NIN101 | flasher-3.5 -l -k yourkernel -b"[kerneloptions]" | 21:17 |
bru | heh | 21:18 |
bru | yeah, but can i put it onto the device | 21:18 |
bru | oh, maybe that does | 21:18 |
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Pali | bru, all rx51 patches are in that repo on gitorious | 21:25 |
Pali | no external patches are needed | 21:25 |
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Wizzup | Well, after disabling the watchdog, at least u-boot isn't turned off, but it won't even boot to maemo | 22:00 |
Wizzup | It just says ``Starting kernel'', and then just stops | 22:01 |
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Wizzup | hm, I think it boots with no arguments | 22:05 |
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bru | maybe i'm just dumb, but this is way too difficult | 22:32 |
bru | noloboot is somehow failing/rebooting 10s in, immcboot is throwin what looks like shell script errors | 22:33 |
bru | maybe i'll dist-upgrade to that CSSU stuff and see if any of the hildon-home memleaks and VOIP bugs are gone | 22:33 |
bru | after reflashing for the 1207th time | 22:34 |
bru | at least this PAli u-boot has a grub-esque shell, so its easier to mess w | 22:35 |
bru | maybe if i made a tiny vfat partition the boot.scr would work, saw theres fatload and ext2load, not sure if ext3 poses a problem or not, but most of the binaries seemed hardcoded to fatload boot.scr | 22:36 |
Pali | bru, that script error I fixed but maybe did not pushed into repo | 22:36 |
bru | oh, im using your binary from Nov 11 | 22:37 |
bru | so its proably quite old | 22:37 |
bru | will try compiling once i can boot back into the thing ;) | 22:37 |
Pali | bru, noloboot - did you created combinated u-boot binary | 22:37 |
Pali | ah, ok script error I fixed in december | 22:37 |
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merlin1991 | bru: voip bugs as in not working sip? | 22:45 |
bru | green dot goes away after 30 mins, tried every keepalive option | 22:46 |
bru | error is "invalid user/pass" or something. but then edit/save config w/o changes and green-dot reappearas | 22:46 |
merlin1991 | oh that's odd | 22:46 |
bru | i use ekiga w/ the same provider, voip.ms w/o probs | 22:47 |
merlin1991 | in relation to cssu I only know the bug where you get no sip at all anymore because for some fsckd reson apt believes it has to remove rtcom-voip-support upon installing cssu | 22:47 |
bru | so im just trying to boot Debian/E17/Illume/Chromium/Ekiga which i already have tweaked out by chrooting into it from maemo | 22:47 |
bru | so in over my head w/ FIASCO images atm | 22:47 |
merlin1991 | well depending on what you break you can always flash only parts of the FIASCO image | 22:49 |
Wizzup | Is anyone here using u-boot to boot maemo? | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | Wizzup: I did some time ago | 22:50 |
Wizzup | But not anymore? | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | currently have a stock kernel on the flash | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | but what is your problem? | 22:50 |
Wizzup | I installed u-boot from extras-devel via HAM, reboot brings up uboot | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | that's expected | 22:51 |
Wizzup | But it doesn't really do anything beside write ``Starting kernel ...'' | 22:51 |
Wizzup | (I can't boot to maemo) | 22:51 |
merlin1991 | did you try to type "run noloboot" in the uboot terminal? | 22:51 |
Wizzup | yeah | 22:51 |
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Wizzup | It finds the kernel image, loads it, but stops after ``Starting kernel ...'' | 22:52 |
Wizzup | I had the right power kernel installed when I installed u-boot as well, so I am not sure what's up | 22:52 |
Wizzup | Googling doesn't show any similar problems | 22:52 |
merlin1991 | well which power kernel did you have and which uboot did you install? | 22:52 |
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Wizzup | 46, and uhm. The only one from HAM. It is u-boot 2010.06 | 22:53 |
Wizzup | At this point I'd be happy just to somehow remove u-boot again, if I can just boot back to my maemo ;) | 22:54 |
merlin1991 | Wizzup: that's easy | 22:54 |
merlin1991 | but just to make this clear, there are 2 packages for u-boot in the repo | 22:54 |
merlin1991 | uboot-pr13 which only works with stock kernel | 22:54 |
merlin1991 | and uboot-power wich works with 46 | 22:55 |
Wizzup | Mine said it was specifically for 46 | 22:55 |
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merlin1991 | Wizzup: do you have flasher somewhere? | 22:56 |
Wizzup | yep | 22:56 |
merlin1991 | you can simply flash the kp46 onto the n900 to boot back to maemo | 22:56 |
Wizzup | Where do I find the image? | 22:56 |
Wizzup | Sorry for being such a noob | 22:56 |
merlin1991 | hm I wonder how you installed kernel power | 22:58 |
merlin1991 | it's missing in the repos | 22:58 |
Wizzup | I think from extras-testing | 22:58 |
merlin1991 | there only is 42 49 34 37 40 and 42 | 22:59 |
merlin1991 | but no 46 | 22:59 |
merlin1991 | do you have any idea which kernel you installed? | 22:59 |
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merlin1991 | because we need the exact same one :/ | 22:59 |
Wizzup | I | 22:59 |
Wizzup | 'm pretty sure it is 46 | 22:59 |
Wizzup | u-boot also shows that it is loading 46 | 23:00 |
Wizzup | or, trying to load anyway. | 23:00 |
Wizzup | Why would I need the exact version, btw? | 23:00 |
merlin1991 | because there are symlinks to the current installed kernel for kernel modules | 23:00 |
merlin1991 | and that fucks you up if you use the wrong kernel | 23:01 |
Wizzup | And those are required to boot? | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | yes | 23:01 |
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merlin1991 | the problem is that the "run noloboot" kernel is included in the uboot package and it appears the power kernel in the repo is not avaiable anymore | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | how did you install the kernel? | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | apt-get or ham? | 23:01 |
Wizzup | I did that over a year ago, I really don't recall how | 23:02 |
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Wizzup | Couldn't I just try several methods? | 23:03 |
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merlin1991 | well ofc you can just flash kernel after kernel untill it boots :D | 23:05 |
Wizzup | yeah. I'll try that ;) | 23:05 |
Wizzup | So how exactly do I flash the kernel? | 23:06 |
merlin1991 | though I gess the best idea would be to write nemo to an mircosd, load the nemo kernel, mount the maemo rootfs and inspect the dpkg status files | 23:06 |
merlin1991 | and then just flash the appropriate kernel | 23:06 |
Wizzup | I tried loading nemo | 23:06 |
Wizzup | I suppose I could try again | 23:07 |
Wizzup | It didn't pick up the mmc card | 23:07 |
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merlin1991 | I suggest you redo writing the sd with dd | 23:09 |
NIN101 | can nemo actually mount the maemo rootfs? | 23:11 |
Wizzup | Most likely | 23:11 |
NIN101 | last time I checked it was named "meego-ce", and it couldn't | 23:11 |
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merlin1991 | NIN101: meego-ce could too | 23:11 |
* merlin1991 needs to go digging for the right commands | 23:11 | |
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NIN101 | I know the commands | 23:12 |
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NIN101 | well it could maybe, IIRC only read only | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | I remember that gary did mount rootfs to import contacts for example | 23:13 |
NIN101 | I used the meeo-ce kernel to create some supercool initrd, and had to recompile their kernel cause it couldn't really write to NAND | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | and all we need here is read access :D | 23:14 |
NIN101 | :-) | 23:14 |
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NIN101 | http://216.189.8.164/N900/rescueOS/ still, if one feels comfortable in tty, I think this is a more suiteable solution. | 23:16 |
Wizzup | I am comfortable in tty's, generally | 23:16 |
NIN101 | no need to write anything to sd etc. | 23:17 |
merlin1991 | NIN101: so it basically is a kernel with a bit of stuff atached to access the rootfs? | 23:18 |
NIN101 | kernel, cramfs initrd. | 23:18 |
NIN101 | bash, busy eh messybox, wireless-tools, e2fsprogs etc. | 23:20 |
merlin1991 | Wizzup: I suggest you load the thing and just check where /lib/modules/current on the rootfs points to | 23:21 |
merlin1991 | then you can flash the appropriate kernel and be happy :) | 23:21 |
Wizzup | So boot rescueOS? | 23:21 |
merlin1991 | yea | 23:21 |
NIN101 | if you have enough battery, because it doesn't charge it automatically. | 23:22 |
NIN101 | and if it drains, it didn't rescue but fscked you, hahaha :-). | 23:22 |
Wizzup | I have an another battery, and a friend who has a n900 | 23:23 |
Wizzup | Unless we're not talking n900 battery | 23:23 |
NIN101 | ok then no problem. | 23:23 |
merlin1991 | I suggest you got the route of "botoing the initrd" as in the documention | 23:23 |
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bru | i have so amny $4 chinese devices that auto-charge on USB. its kindof insulting N900 doesnt | 23:24 |
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bru | Wizzup: did you try flasher -f -R -k u-boot+kp49.bin using http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot+kp49.bin | 23:25 |
bru | i got it's PR1.3 bin going fairly easily | 23:26 |
Wizzup | not yet, but thanks for the option | 23:26 |
Wizzup | I will after I try re-dd'ing NEMO | 23:26 |
* bru googles nemo n900 | 23:26 | |
merlin1991 | though that would only help if you have kp49 installed on the rootfs | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | Wizzup: jsut get the rescueos | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | load the initrd in ram, and check where /lib/modules/current points to | 23:27 |
Wizzup | in a few minutes :-) | 23:27 |
merlin1991 | after that you can either flash the kernel or the fitting uboot | 23:27 |
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Wizzup | merlin1991: NEMO is booting :) | 23:57 |
merlin1991 | nice one | 23:57 |
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