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DocScrutinizerok, 201201:11
SpeedEvilHave a good one!01:11
NIN101thx, you all too.01:12
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Macerlol01:32
Macernot yet01:32
SpeedEvil#freenode-newyears :)01:39
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Macerno thanks ;) i'll be downtown for new years01:51
Macerlmao01:51
Macerit is only 6pm here01:52
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StyXman[disclaimer: this might be offtopic here. if so, just let me know] so I have a one month old N900 in a tight reboot loop: it's off when unplugged; if I plug the wall charger or the USB cable it vibrates, it shows the faint nokia logo, the notification led shortly blinks in red, and after some 30s it reboots and everything starts over. lsusb in my laptop does not show the phone, booting for flashing does nothing different and I even left it plugged ...13:55
StyXman... to the wall charger the whole night. any ideas?13:55
Hurrianphone entered MALF state somehow13:56
StyXmanmalf?13:56
Hurrianmalfunction13:56
Hurrianhardware-related13:56
Hurrianeither that, or getbootstate is moody13:57
Hurriantry doing the battery pull trick13:57
Hurrianpull the battery, plug it into USB for flashing, start flasher, put battery in13:57
StyXmanhmm, now I tried to boot it, it goes up to showing the blue on white nokia logo, but I see nothing on lsusb13:59
StyXmanI'll try that13:59
StyXmanthere is no way to boot it without a battery, right? I mean, it doesn't behave like a notebook...14:01
SpeedEvilNo/.14:02
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Hurrianno way to boot it w/o battery.14:07
Hurrianthat's the way nokia phones are. also, cellmodem needs a large jump in voltage for a short time, which USB cannot supply14:08
psycho_oreoswhat you should do is to have the usb cable plugged into the N900 and obviously the other end plugged into the laptop. Have the flasher program running (when its waiting for a suitable device), hold the u key whilst inserting the battery. This should hopefully get your N900 into firmware update mode14:13
psycho_oreosdon't worry about the lsusb part, its rather pointless. What you need to do is to make sure that your N900 is getting reflashed.14:14
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MacerHurrian: the modem needs a largelump of voltage for a short time?14:47
Maceris that to connect to the tower?14:47
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Macerbrain damage lol... classic horror there14:50
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DocScrutinizerHurrian: almost correct - modem introduces bursts where it consumes large amounts of electric *current*. And yes, they are beyond what USB could provide or could reasonably get buffered in any capacitor16:26
DocScrutinizerStyXman: please read *complete* page (your problem is briefly but comprehensively mentioned there, see buzzword "flat battery"):16:31
DocScrutinizer~flash16:31
infobotmaemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware16:31
DocScrutinizerStyXman: in short: bootloop does not charge // flasher does not flash when battery low // get external charger!16:32
DocScrutinizerand forget MALF, it doesn't exist on N90016:32
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* SpeedEvil sighs.16:34
SpeedEvilCleaning up is boring.16:34
SpeedEvilOTOH - I found some microdisplays.16:34
SpeedEvilNow - if I can just find the datasheets.16:34
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DocScrutinizerhappy new year #maemo!19:03
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cityLightshow can I run fsck on /home ?22:04
merlin1991~seen MohammadAG22:04
infobotmohammadag is currently on #maemo #meego, last said: 'The pieces were transparent?'.22:04
RST38hcryptic indeed22:04
DocScrutinizer??22:05
DocScrutinizercityLights: use backupmenu22:05
DocScrutinizerI *think* you could install it even when /home is mounted r/o due to fs corruption22:06
DocScrutinizerit's incredible that maemo has no OOTB measures to run fsck when needed22:07
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DocScrutinizerjavispedro: happy new year!22:15
javispedrohappppyy22:16
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javispedrothis year we will see the world come to an end, the year of the linux handset, the year of the war on general purpose computing, and the year of the tablet. oh, and third world war.22:19
* RST38h does not see the linux handset part22:20
RST38hand maybe not the tablet22:20
DocScrutinizerand year of the troll, on freenode ;-)22:20
RST38hbut yeah, the rest stand22:20
RST38hs22:20
* DocScrutinizer wonders how to place the IRCgadget, the MAILgadget, the OFFICEgadget, the SSHgadget, all on one small desk22:21
RST38hneed Microsoft Surface for that, don't you?22:22
javispedroactually, I have this beatiful place where I thrown the hooker800...22:22
DocScrutinizerooh, a virtual desk(-top)?22:22
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* RST38h just spent 1+ hours "managing" an Android handset22:23
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RST38hThe amount of shit dropped to its SD card by various packages leaves even MSDOS drive C: in utter shame22:24
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RST38hAh, sweet, looks like a war with Iran is fashionable again in 2012!22:58
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javispedroa fun thought for today. After reading the article that was posted in #qt about MS VisualStudio's splash screen ( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2009/11/11/behind-the-scenes-splash-screen.aspx ), I realized that the code that handles the splash screen in VS2010 is probably larger than the entire VisualC++ 1.023:20
mavhcthe power management section of the core i processors is bigger than a pentium 123:20
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javispedromavhc: ?23:27
javispedromavhc: ah, you mean in number of transistors23:27
javispedromavhc: well, the entire uncore is a ~486 iirc, so the power mgmt section can't be larger than a pentium123:27
javispedroeither way, you cannot argue the relative usefulness of the uncore vs a splash screen =)23:27
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