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| JakDaRippa | i have a Nokia N900. the 'Memory for installable applications' reads '247.5 MB available'. is this considered alot? how do i free up some space? | 00:22 |
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| beford | mine says 1.05 gb | 00:24 |
| beford | so I guess its not alot | 00:24 |
| beford | do you have a lot of applications installed JakDaRippa ? | 00:24 |
| JakDaRippa | i haven't installed very much at all...fmms, transmission, angry birds, hermes, irssi, rdesktop, recorder, smplayer and symfonie | 00:25 |
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| HELP | guys help help help got problem flashing my device | 00:27 |
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| JakDaRippa | getting rid of angry birds, rdesktop, smplayer and symfonie. i'll see what's available then | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | ~flashing | 00:28 |
| infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:28 |
| Guest29093 | i saw already thi | 00:28 |
| Guest29093 | this | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | Angry birds is not reinstallable | 00:28 |
| Guest29093 | but i have problem | 00:28 |
| Guest29093 | don't know from what | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | As the download site went away | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC symphonie is quite large | 00:28 |
| beford | SpeedEvil, ovi for maemo is dead? | 00:28 |
| beford | or just angrybirds for maemo | 00:29 |
| SpeedEvil | I think ovi died closing on a year ago | 00:29 |
| Guest29093 | when i press the u and connect the usb.. it connect.. in the flahser it start to do the kb count then stop within seconds and .. wtf ? | 00:29 |
| JakDaRippa | ok, so i'll leave angry birds | 00:30 |
| beford | well not that I really used it but damn | 00:30 |
| Guest29093 | please help :S | 00:30 |
| SpeedEvil | Guest29093: 'kb count' ? | 00:31 |
| Guest29093 | yeah in flasher on the pc .. | 00:31 |
| Guest29093 | percentage | 00:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah | 00:31 |
| Guest29093 | within seconds it stops | 00:32 |
| SpeedEvil | Does it say it's completed? | 00:32 |
| SpeedEvil | Or what's the error? | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | no | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | the window close fast | 00:32 |
| beford | paste the whole thing Guest29093 | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | flasher-3.5.exe -F EMMC_By.MiDO.FaYad.8.giga.bin -f | 00:32 |
| beford | how come? are you using Windows? | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | this you mean ? | 00:32 |
| beford | openm a CMD.ee first | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | yeah windows | 00:32 |
| beford | cmd.exe | 00:32 |
| beford | and type the command there, it should not close | 00:32 |
| Guest29093 | percentage about 20% then stops and close the window | 00:33 |
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| beford | flashing EMMC only? | 00:33 |
| beford | I think that doesn't work | 00:33 |
| Guest29093 | eemc means the device memory right ? | 00:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yes | 00:34 |
| beford | embedded memory controller, internal memory yes, but not the operative system memory | 00:34 |
| Guest29093 | ohh lool then the problem with the file ? | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | embedded MultiMediaCard | 00:34 |
| beford | :3 | 00:34 |
| beford | I always get it wrong | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | please re-download your file first | 00:34 |
| Guest29093 | should i download the offical one ?! | 00:35 |
| beford | that doesn't look like an official firmware you could brick your device | 00:35 |
| beford | definitvely | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | and please store it under original name | 00:35 |
| Guest29093 | this file from maemo website | 00:35 |
| Guest29093 | in nitdroid page | 00:35 |
| Guest29093 | it says flash custom 8gb apps | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | beford: flashing eMMC hardly bricks the device - actually N900 is (almost) unbrickable | 00:36 |
| beford | I said could :3 | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | EEEEK | 00:36 |
| beford | :P | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | stay away from nitdroid | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | ! | 00:36 |
| Guest29093 | whyy ?! | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | becuase it gets you where you are now ;-P | 00:37 |
| Guest29093 | :S | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can't flash random crap to eMMC | 00:37 |
| beford | (you MUST flash rootfs as well, when flashing eMMC (because of /opt deletion) | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | you need to flash latest official Nokia EMMC image | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | the you *need* to flash COMBINED, after flashing EMMC | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | then* | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | see: | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~flash | 00:38 |
| infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:38 |
| Guest29093 | i got a headache guys | 00:39 |
| Guest29093 | didn't get anything | 00:39 |
| Guest29093 | stupid me :S | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | read that link! read ALL OF IT | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | flash original NOKIA stuff | 00:39 |
| beford | I suppose the phone is not starting now, does it? | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | as adviced on that page I gave the link above | 00:39 |
| Guest29093 | is there a link ? my Product ID not valid | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | WUT? | 00:40 |
| Guest29093 | no it doesn't start anymore | 00:40 |
| beford | product id to get the firmware? its the wlan mac if I remember correctly, get it from your phone | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | IMEI | 00:40 |
| beford | :" | 00:40 |
| Guest29093 | i know here it is not working lool | 00:41 |
| beford | I have not flashed in a while | 00:41 |
| Guest29093 | where* | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | Guest29093: sorry, please be more elaborate and specific on your questions/problem-descriptions/etc | 00:41 |
| beford | make sure you are not trying to download n8x0 firmware with you n900 imei .. | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's all on http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | incl right URL to get flasher tool and firmware images | 00:42 |
| Guest29093 | oh oh stupid me i wrote the code with slashes "/" lol | 00:42 |
| Guest29093 | which firmware image should i download ? | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | *latest* | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | see right col | 00:43 |
| Guest29093 | RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | and the COMBINED, also latest | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | preferably international version, unless you definitely need a localized version | 00:44 |
| Guest29093 | so 2 files ? | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 00:45 |
| JakDaRippa | got rid of rdesktop, smplayer and symfonie. now i have 258.2 MB available. not much difference. | 00:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | usually you don't want nor need to reflash VANILLA, but since you already did, you now have to finish that job | 00:46 |
| beford | something else is filling | 00:46 |
| beford | try df -h from xterminal | 00:46 |
| JakDaRippa | DocScrutinizer: is there another way to make more memory available for installable applications? | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Why do you think you need more? | 00:47 |
| Guest29093 | thats what i was trying to do | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | first find out about true free space | 00:47 |
| Guest29093 | cuz of nitdroid | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | Guest29093: yes, and that'S absolutely correct | 00:47 |
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| JakDaRippa | the device has 2.70GB available | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | JakDaRippa: nope | 00:48 |
| JakDaRippa | just thought i was running low. device seems a little slow these days | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no such thing as "the device" | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's /, /home, MyDocs | 00:49 |
| JakDaRippa | my nokia n900 is running slower these days (or so it seems) | 00:49 |
| JakDaRippa | ah, oki | 00:49 |
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| Guest29093 | after i download the 2 files and put'em in the file.. what command should i use ? | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | JakDaRippa: df -h /home | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | JakDaRippa: df -h / | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | both | 00:51 |
| Guest29093 | with -R or without ? | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | paste the 2 result lines here (not the headers please) | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | Guest29093: please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Troubleshooting | 00:52 |
| Guest29093 | saw this i've got a monkey brain i don't understand | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | 7th bullit there | 00:52 |
| Guest29093 | need someone to tell me everything lol | 00:52 |
| JakDaRippa | which line am i looking for to paste? there's alot of info here | 00:53 |
| Guest29093 | how can i use the modded 8gb emmc image ? | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | JakDaRippa: df -h / | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | gives you like 3 lines output | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | /dev/mmcblk0p2 2,0G 743M 1,2G 39% /home | 00:53 |
| JakDaRippa | jsut did that. gave me about 15 lines of info | 00:53 |
| JakDaRippa | ok | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually 2 per cmd | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | you paste the 2nd for each of / and /home | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | bbiam | 00:54 |
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| JakDaRippa | ./devmmcblk0p1 27.2G 24.5G 2.7G 90% /home/user/MyDocs | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, means your MyDocsw is full with (probably) media | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not relevant here though | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | please do df -h / | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | with a / | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | then do df -h /home | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | none of both gives you more than 2 lines output | 00:58 |
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| JakDaRippa | rootfs 227.8M 133.2M 90.3M 60% / | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | that's pretty good | 00:59 |
| Guest29093 | ohhhh i understand now :D | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | \o/ | 01:00 |
| JakDaRippa | dev/mmcblk0p2 2.0G 1.7G 169.9M 91% /home | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | crowded but not yet crirical | 01:01 |
| Guest29093 | i will download vanilla and emmc then use the command without -R cuz i will flash the emmc that i download, right guys ? | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | right | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | almost | 01:01 |
| Guest29093 | horray my brain start working | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you never use -R when using the method at end of page | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it also states this | 01:02 |
| JakDaRippa | i have p90x and p90x2 on here, so that's all the media data you see | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | btw vanilla and emmc are other names for same thing | 01:02 |
| Guest29093 | how the flasher gonna recognize the emmc file ? | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | by the command you give it the name of the vanilla aka emmc .bin file | 01:04 |
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| Guest29093 | the command gives it only the COMBINED file | 01:05 |
| Guest29093 | flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_2.2009.51-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no, you first give command with VANILLA, then do same procedure again with COMBINED | 01:05 |
| Guest29093 | i have to do it twice ? | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | please refer to URL I gave you | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yes | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | for eMMC and rootfs | 01:06 |
| Guest29093 | man i read everything in the link 100 times | 01:06 |
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| JakDaRippa | thank you guys | 01:06 |
| Guest29093 | english is not my native lang | 01:06 |
| JakDaRippa | have a safe and happy holiday | 01:06 |
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| Guest29093 | just last qustion | 01:11 |
| Guest29093 | The flash will take a minute or so. Switch off device by shortly removing battery | 01:11 |
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| Guest29093 | how can i switch it off ? it won't work using the power button | 01:12 |
| Guest29093 | loool by shortly removing battery okk xD | 01:13 |
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| Blat- | hey all | 12:52 |
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| badcloud_ | has anyone here successfully implimented bash history? not in sh, in bash | 14:36 |
| SpeedEvil | umm - what? | 14:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Bash history is in bash. | 14:36 |
| psycho_oreos | what's that supposed to mean? when you install bash and you chsh to bash you should get .bash_history file under ~ directory | 14:36 |
| badcloud_ | I've tried 'shopt -s histappend' and exiting term with ctrl-d | 14:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | What are you trying to do? | 14:37 |
| badcloud_ | psycho_oreos: it's not working for some reason | 14:37 |
| badcloud_ | SpeedEvil: trying to have bash hist | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | WFM | 14:37 |
| SpeedEvil | WFMT | 14:37 |
| badcloud_ | Whaaat | 14:37 |
| psycho_oreos | badcloud_, which bash version are you using? | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | bash3 atm | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | always worked | 14:39 |
| badcloud_ | 2.05b.0(1) | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | what stopped working for bash3 is the help command :-/ | 14:40 |
| SpeedEvil | It's been renamed. | 14:40 |
| SpeedEvil | halp | 14:40 |
| SpeedEvil | It now displays a lolcat in ascii. | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | I indeed pondered to replace it by a script with echo "<all the help foo>" | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | but that's for sure monkey business to code | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | while I'd prefer to bash the bash3 maintainer for build option -DNOHELP | 14:43 |
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| badcloud_ | what shoud the ownership of .bash_hiastory be? | 14:44 |
| badcloud_ | s/shoud/should | 14:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, there *might* be a legitimate reason you would want to build it without help: reducing RAM footprint | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | badcloud_: obviously owner owner 6xx | 14:45 |
| badcloud_ | DocScrutinizer: thanks | 14:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | here probably user users 640 | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | or 600 | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless you're talking about root's bash | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# ls -l .bas* | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw------- 1 root root 16943 2011-12-20 08:52 .bash_history | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | for root | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ $ ls -l .bas* | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw------- 1 user users 3113 Nov 14 20:05 .bash_history | 14:48 |
| badcloud_ | thanks again | 14:49 |
| * DocScrutinizer realizes his user's locale is fsckdup | 14:49 | |
| badcloud_ | (I meant user's) | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | messy date format | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, maybe that's messybox ls though | 14:50 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/30/hawking_job/ | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed, messybox. Should get my $PATH right, for user | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ $ /usr/bin/gnu/ls -l .bas* | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw------- 1 user users 3135 2011-12-30 13:51 .bash_history | 14:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $PATH | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 14:55 |
| pronto | :O you's been haxed | 14:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | me are hax0r ;-P | 15:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | wtf is the rationale messybox sources .bashrc?? | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | # ~/.profile: executed by Bourne-compatible login shells. | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | . ~/.bashrc | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | messybox bourne-compatible? BWAHAHA | 15:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, seems I need to give it some more tweaking | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody got the affirmative answer on "how do I detect a script is running under true bash?" | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | if [ $BASH ] ? | 15:10 |
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| NIN101 | if [ $SHELL = "/bin/bash" ] ; then echo "yay!"; fi ? | 15:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | BASH_VERSION nt null | 15:12 |
| SpeedEvil | not | 15:12 |
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| joga | builtin && echo "it's bash" ? ;) | 15:13 |
| XDS200010 | Hi, is there a application or addon that can alert me when open access points are in range ? | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | I forget what it's called | 15:13 |
| SpeedEvil | It makes beepy noises | 15:13 |
| XDS200010 | We have a lot of municiple wifi networks in my area, i would like to take advantage of them | 15:13 |
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| XDS200010 | municipal* | 15:14 |
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| XDS200010 | SpeedEvil: was that directed at me ? | 15:14 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 15:14 |
| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/view/wifiinfo/ | 15:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/view/wifieye/ | 15:15 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC one of these can be put into scan and beep mode | 15:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll go for [ -n $BASH ] I think | 15:16 |
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| NIN101 | while [ true ] ; do iwlist scan | grep "key:off" && [command to play sound ] ; sleep 120 ; done -- hacky though. | 15:18 |
| XDS200010 | Both of those apps have undesirable extras. I just want a simple toaster notification that tells me open access points are available. | 15:18 |
| SpeedEvil | toaster? | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # echo $PATH | 15:19 |
| XDS200010 | Ah NIN101 thanks | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # bash | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $PATH | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | all I need | 15:19 |
| * SpeedEvil is reminded of toaster notifications. | 15:19 | |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec | 15:19 |
| Macer | hm | 15:19 |
| Macer | efnet died lol | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | NIN101: while sleep 120; do ... | 15:20 |
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| NIN101 | indeed, makes more sense. | 15:20 |
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| Macer | so how goes things? :) | 15:21 |
| XDS200010 | how do you send push notification to system NIN101 ? | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | NIN101: esp it really aborts on ^C | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 15:22 |
| NIN101 | do you mean this yellow notificatino bars? | 15:22 |
| XDS200010 | yea | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | XDS200010: see wiki phone control | 15:22 |
| NIN101 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Notifications | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | dbus-send | 15:22 |
| XDS200010 | cool | 15:22 |
| Macer | the last days of lehman brothers was kind of a letdown of a movie | 15:23 |
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| Macer | maybe the last days of nokia will be better | 15:23 |
| XDS200010 | I wonder if a RDS burst tx per channel could be done | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, what? | 15:23 |
| XDS200010 | DocScrutinizer: in other words send Notifications to every single tx channel over fm | 15:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, you completely lost me | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | I neither know what TX channels you talk about, nor what Notifications you could send via FM | 15:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whatever you want to do, the FMTX on N900 is so incredibly weak you won't succeed | 15:27 |
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| XDS200010 | DocScrutinizer: RDS tx already works, ive tried it | 15:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I know that | 15:28 |
| XDS200010 | its stereo too :) | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh stereo RDS ;-P | 15:28 |
| XDS200010 | Doesn't matter to me, if im right on top of the signal it wont make much difference | 15:28 |
| kerio | if you're on top of the signal you can read the screen | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you think of auto-adjusting your car radio to a channel specified by N900 via RDS sent to whole freq band, forget it | 15:29 |
| XDS200010 | kerio: exactly | 15:29 |
| XDS200010 | DocScrutinizer: what kerio said | 15:30 |
| kerio | no, i mean, read the screen | 15:30 |
| kerio | don't bother with transmitting notifications through fm | 15:30 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders why the heck the coffee seems refuses to kick in - gets only gibberish | 15:30 | |
| XDS200010 | kerio: why not , seems to work fine for me | 15:30 |
| XDS200010 | ??? | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | what kerio said is also gibberish to me | 15:31 |
| Macer | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/frankfurt-stock-exchange-has-approved-nokias-request-to-delist-2011-12-16-1058150 | 15:31 |
| kerio | XDS200010: because it's fucking useless | 15:31 |
| Macer | wow | 15:31 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: XDS200010 wants to transmit notifications through the fmtx, in some way | 15:31 |
| XDS200010 | huh ? | 15:31 |
| kerio | or i didn't get it but somehow was getting all the right answers anyway | 15:31 |
| XDS200010 | What the hell are you talking about kerio it already works | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you think of auto-adjusting your car radio to a channel specified by N900 via RDS sent to whole freq band, forget it | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | if that's not what you think about, then please enlighten me | 15:32 |
| XDS200010 | Doc i think you have been drinking the plutonium :P | 15:32 |
| XDS200010 | lol | 15:33 |
| XDS200010 | If you're not american you wont get that joke | 15:33 |
| * DocScrutinizer shrugs, accepts that sometimes he's living in a parallel reality that has incompatible grammar, and turns away | 15:33 | |
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| XDS200010 | http://nopaste.info/1bbb1e0b26.html | 15:36 |
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| kerio | why [ true ] and not just true? | 15:37 |
| XDS200010 | true , ill fix it :) | 15:38 |
| XDS200010 | http://nopaste.info/04b4625325_nl.html | 15:39 |
| NIN101 | nah, as doc said, remove the while [ true ] and replace it with while sleep 120 , and remove the "sleep 120" in the loop. | 15:39 |
| XDS200010 | whats the difference ? | 15:40 |
| XDS200010 | one less pipe ? | 15:40 |
| NIN101 | <DocScrutinizer> NIN101: esp it really aborts on ^C <-- aborts with while true too, so well, doesn't matter... | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | NIN101: ^C a sleep 120 in a while true; do... loop doesn'T usually abort the loop | 15:44 |
| NIN101 | well I just tested it, dunno. | 15:44 |
| NIN101 | it works here. | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | depends on your set -+e I guess | 15:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bwahahaha, a set -e closed my complete shell on ^C | 15:48 |
| NIN101 | yep. | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | I really dunno what exactly is causing the problem and when, but I found several times that I had a hard time to ^C a tight loop, when the ^C only aborted the sleep 2 and the loop entered another iteration | 15:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | with while sleep 2; do ...; done it always aboets on ^C for me | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | obvious downside: it starts with a wait | 15:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | haven't really wrapped my head around why it doesn't abort, on while true; do...; sleep 2; done loops, since I got the remedy | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm rather sure it has to do with shell settings | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe also with reading from stdin in loop, or sth | 15:55 |
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| NIN101 | the whole loop is a job. | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 15:56 |
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| kerio | is there a do...while in sh? | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | do until? | 15:57 |
| XDS200010 | wouldn't that just be a cron? | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | until: until COMMANDS; do COMMANDS; done | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno, never use that one | 15:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I think it's just a while ! | 15:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yep, it is a while ! COMMANDS loop | 16:01 |
| NIN101 | it may even has to do something with signals, SIGINT vs SIGTERM... | 16:01 |
| XDS200010 | while bomb technicial ; scan ; grep *run* ; if true ; catch up | 16:01 |
| XDS200010 | LMAO | 16:01 |
| XDS200010 | if rinse ; do repeat ; done | 16:02 |
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| Mongkeybiz | I am looking for a Nokia N9 developer who can make me a SMS filter app. Is that possible? | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | /join #harmattan | 16:04 |
| Mongkeybiz | thanks | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | a rather good question though, for over there | 16:04 |
| XDS200010 | what does harmattan stand for ? | 16:04 |
| SpeedEvil | All maemo variants are named for winds | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~dict harmattan | 16:05 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'harmattan' (1 of 3): (s[i^]*r[o^]k"k[=o]z). [It. sirocco, scirocco, Ar. shorug, fr. sharq the rising of the sun, the east, fr, sharaca to rise as the sun. Cf. {Saracen}.] 1. An oppressive, relaxing wind from the Libyan deserts, chiefly experienced in Italy, Malta, and Sicily. [1913 Webster] 2. In general, any hot dry wind of cyclonic origin, blowing from arid or heated regions, including the desert wind of Southern California, the ... | 16:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Desert winds | 16:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so obviously sth not very comforting | 16:06 |
| XDS200010 | why didn't they just namer it desertwind? , harmattan is hard to remember | 16:06 |
| XDS200010 | name* | 16:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wasn't fremantle also some wind? | 16:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~dict fremantle | 16:07 |
| infobot | could not find definition for fremantle | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds like s stinky village in USA | 16:07 |
| * DocScrutinizer googles | 16:08 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | western Australia, meh | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | 25.000 residents | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | basically a suburb of Perth | 16:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=SSC51501&producttype=QuickStats&breadcrumb=PL&action=401 | 16:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sounds like Fremantle is a place where ~7000 old grumpy heathen unmarried managers live and scare all women out of the village XP | 16:18 |
| kerio | that's called the internet | 16:20 |
| Raimu | *drum fill* | 16:28 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: same as yesterday =) | 17:14 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3008/18872479.6/0_6f004_258941c6_L ? | 17:16 |
| javispedro | beatiful combination of internet cats and optimistic predictions about the human future? | 17:18 |
| RST38h | javispedro: ...and it is titled "December" to wrap it off. | 17:18 |
| javispedro | lol | 17:18 |
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| PPPP | Hello :) guys when i start flashing my device (eMMC) it always stops on 20% .. the progress last for seconds.. | 19:09 |
| PPPP | any one can help ?! | 19:09 |
| PPPP | no errors appear | 19:10 |
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| PPPP_ | no help :/ ? | 19:13 |
| NIN101 | be patient | 19:13 |
| NIN101 | we are not here 24/7 | 19:14 |
| PPPP_ | yeah i know but maybe someone here can help | 19:14 |
| NIN101 | just wait. | 19:14 |
| PPPP_ | i can't use my phone anymore you know | 19:14 |
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| pbpbp | Hello :) any one can help ? | 19:54 |
| dm8tbr | don't ask to ask | 19:56 |
| pbpbp | ohh you are here | 19:57 |
| pbpbp | you can help me | 19:57 |
| pbpbp | listen carefully ok | 19:57 |
| dm8tbr | no, but if you ask your question someone could... | 19:58 |
| NIN101 | rules for IRC: just ask and stick around. nothing more. | 19:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Also, don't be a dick. | 19:58 |
| pbpbp | i start flashing the eMMC image using the flasher.. the progress always ends on 20% (just take few seconds) then the window close | 19:59 |
| pbpbp | no any errors | 19:59 |
| pbpbp | whats the problem there ? | 20:00 |
| SpeedEvil | open uip the command line, and then run it again | 20:00 |
| SpeedEvil | See what the errors are | 20:00 |
| pbpbp | told you no errors.. just like that | 20:01 |
| dm8tbr | are you on windows? | 20:01 |
| pbpbp | yeah windows 7 | 20:01 |
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| pbpbp | :/ | 20:03 |
| pbpbp | SpeedEvil dm8tbr | 20:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Odd | 20:06 |
| pbpbp | so what should i do :/ ? | 20:06 |
| pbpbp | i can't run my phone anymore? | 20:06 |
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| SpeedEvil | If you set it up so that the window doesn't close - are there errors? | 20:08 |
| pbpbp | i didn't try that | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously the windows flasher is some POS that opens a new dosbox even when invoked from cmdline, and it closes that new dosbox on termination of the cmd | 20:09 |
| pbpbp | how can i set it to not to close ? | 20:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pbpbp: try flashing rootfs/COMBINED first, then eMMC/VANILLA. If VANILLA flashing works then, you have to flash rootfs/COMBINED *again* | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | and also you should use linux, as windows flashing is cumbersome - obviously | 20:11 |
| pbpbp | it is the same for the rootfs.. 20% then close | 20:11 |
| pbpbp | i have ubuntu | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine :-) | 20:12 |
| pbpbp | will it make a difference ? | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | to windows? definitely | 20:12 |
| pbpbp | windows to linux ? | 20:12 |
| pbpbp | i hope it works .. | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | at least you'll get good non-volatile diagnostic output on linux. No closing windows or similar nonsense | 20:13 |
| pbpbp | okk guys thank you very much i will try using linux :) | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also see: | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~flash | 20:14 |
| infobot | maemo-flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 20:14 |
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| Macer | virgin - n. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2666/4231257678_e5cf79c73c_o.jpg | 21:31 |
| Macer | lmao.. omg | 21:31 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/1430/slide_1430_20402_large.jpg | 21:33 |
| M4rtinK | Mac OS ? srsly ? :) | 21:33 |
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| Macer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_LWm6_6tA | 21:50 |
| Macer | omg that was very well done | 21:50 |
| Macer | a dumbed down version of the credit crisis | 21:51 |
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| trist4n | can anyone tell me where msn passwords are stored | 23:56 |
| trist4n | i can see email details in gcconftool, but seemingly no msn | 23:56 |
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| NIN101 | can it be /home/user/.rtcom-accounts? Just a guess. | 23:57 |
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