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| StyXman | I can't access http://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/002/ with a browser? | 01:42 |
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| psycho_oreos | I don't think anyone can without knowing how to work it properly, and why would you want to access it anyway? | 01:43 |
| NIN102 | I heard(so it may be BS) that the apt on maemo is modified, it sends some stuff to that server so it can access it. Needless to say this isn't very secure. | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | needless to say you can just check out the apt package source and send the same headers from you pc | 01:49 |
| NIN102 | exactly, needless to say... :P | 01:49 |
| merlin1991 | I am a n900, no you're a bruwser, But I am a n900, ah I see you have an n900 header here you go have your package | 01:49 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 01:49 |
| psycho_oreos | even with all those said and then, its still not possible to simply just `browse' the repository at any rate from downloads.maemo.nokia.com | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | nope not possible | 01:50 |
| psycho_oreos | s/then/done/ | 01:50 |
| infobot | psycho_oreos meant: even with all those said and done, its still not possible to simply just `browse' the repository at any rate from downloads.maemo.nokia.com | 01:50 |
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| StyXman | nice | 01:55 |
| StyXman | so basically no way to make a mirror via http, for instance | 01:55 |
| psycho_oreos | "<merlin1991> I am a n900,(truncated)" <--- lol reminds me of that N900 video.. project: maemo | 01:56 |
| psycho_oreos | no you can, pali and I figured it out.. though pali did more job :D | 01:56 |
| NIN102 | /var/lib/apt/lists, there you can find what is inside, find out what apt sends, make a download script and download everything ; done. | 01:56 |
| psycho_oreos | a hacked apt-mirror would've probably worked better | 01:57 |
| StyXman | I have the script, I'll just need to find out that extra thing | 02:02 |
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| psycho_oreos | there's threads on tmo about it | 02:02 |
| StyXman | I'll check later | 02:04 |
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| psycho_oreos | iirc it requires two things to get wget working with it | 02:06 |
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| psycho_oreos | one set of info is provided within each and every N900, the other is to ignore something | 02:07 |
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| pugSk8r_ | there are some crooks who use judaism to cover their crimes | 04:15 |
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| psycho_oreos | and how is that related to maemo? | 04:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pupnik | 04:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | took me almost 3 minutes to tell | 04:23 |
| Macer | ugh | 04:24 |
| Macer | damn synolgy | 04:24 |
| Macer | wth ... their acl tool is undocumented | 04:25 |
| Macer | i didn't even know it existed | 04:25 |
| Macer | and their default permissions are absolutely retarded | 04:25 |
| Macer | when you make a dir from the file explorer in the web ui the permissions on the box are rwxrwxrwx | 04:25 |
| Macer | 777! | 04:25 |
| Macer | WTH?! | 04:25 |
| Macer | blame china! | 04:25 |
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| pugSk8r_ | hi macer | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | sickness surrounds you | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | like a plague | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | hi DocScrutinizer | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | little boy | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | scared little boy | 07:16 |
| pugSk8r_ | you will die, boy | 07:17 |
| pugSk8r_ | die, boy | 07:17 |
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| pugSk8r_ | someone stole something from me | 08:14 |
| pugSk8r_ | what should i do to them? | 08:14 |
| pronto | you should kill them with bagels | 08:15 |
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| pugSk8r_ | lol | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | no | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | i should kill them | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | by cutting off their foreskins | 08:23 |
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| pugSk8r_ | and sucking their penisis | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | like the jewish religion commands | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | aaahahahahahah | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | :P | 08:23 |
| pugSk8r_ | shitheads | 08:23 |
| SpeedEvil | You should investigate conspiracies! I've heard the jews control the kosher delicatescen buisness. | 08:24 |
| wmarone__ | and they do a damn fine job of it | 08:25 |
| * wmarone__ starts feeling hungry | 08:25 | |
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| pugSk8r_ | the religion is racist | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | and it commands cock sucking | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | and shit eating | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | i rest my case, SpeedEvil | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | a shit-eating, cock-sucking religion | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | hmm | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | wow | 09:03 |
| pugSk8r_ | that is pretty bad | 09:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's up with you, folks? are you willing to tolerate and ignore such behaviour? pretty please ping a chanop to stop this | 11:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp when it's our old friend pupnik in a new impersonation - who already *asked* for a ban to help him stop this evil behaviour | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Sorry - I was feeling silly, and it amused me. | 11:52 |
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| aholler | maybe nobody else read it up to now, it's weekend when people tend to sleep longer. | 12:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | tend to stay up longer, too | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | but maybe most of users still have a life ;-D | 12:01 |
| aholler | that sentence doesn't say what life ;) | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | was actually my fault, should have kickbanned him at [2011-12-11 03:15:31] <pugSk8r_> there are some crooks who use judaism to cover their crimes [2011-12-11 03:19:42] <DocScrutinizer> pupnik [2011-12-11 03:23:04] <DocScrutinizer> took me almost 3 minutes to tell | 12:03 |
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| badcloud_ | which wedb browser is the most keyboard friendly as far as key shortcuts? | 14:32 |
| badcloud_ | trying to find something along the lines of conkeror/vimperator | 14:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | OT! http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2011-December/002507.html | 16:19 |
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| * DocScrutinizer loads a giant rail gun with a cake and fires it in Harald Welte's general direction | 16:20 | |
| DocScrutinizer | hope the parachute will open before the cake would land in his face | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | calypso nightmare lives on and on ;-P | 16:22 |
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| Sicelo^ | ~pebkac | 16:42 |
| infobot | PEBKAC: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair. | 16:42 |
| Sicelo^ | heh | 16:42 |
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| jonwil | I think the idea of a cellphone where every single piece of software running on the thing is open source is a great goal :) | 16:43 |
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| jonwil | even a 2G GSM featurephone | 16:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, we'll celebrate start of mass production of first completely FOSS GSM phone, on the event where last carrier on this planet declares they will switch their last GSM band to LTE now | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-P | 16:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I will utter a sigh of relief, as one of my nightmares is script kiddies and "young talented android developers" are messing with GSM TX and protocol, to implement bullshit that tears down whole cells | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | there is *some* stuff even *I* think better stay closed | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | if idiots messing with it was the alternative | 16:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | Shared spectrum is annoying. | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | look, here in real europe (minus bloody GB) you mustn't even drive a car on publoc streets that hasn't passed a very tough test to ensure it's reliable and safe to operate | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | you even got madatory ensurance | 16:53 |
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| SpeedEvil | Germany has atypically tough tests. | 16:55 |
| aholler | we also will get mandatory helmets for pedestrians soon too ... | 16:55 |
| dm8tbr | there is a reason you need a licence to transmit RF, which is contingent on passing tests in certified labs | 16:56 |
| aholler | it's a matter of time until a politican or a bureaucrat gets the idea. | 16:57 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer: a locked-down cellmo would be fine if it was flexible enough | 17:03 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: and this tough test is even exported to turky and other countries all over the world, not only for cars but also for all other kinds of technical systems | 17:04 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: for instance, telling it to shut the hell up when you want to suspend-to-ram | 17:04 |
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| chem|st | aholler: I cant remember the state (mi wi ca or ms) they dropped the mandatory helmet for motorcycles, 2 years later they where wondering why the death by accidents raised | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | kerio: easy: shut it down, as that'S the only thing to do anyway when you want it to shut up | 17:07 |
| aholler | chem|st: so you prefer dying by getting bored to death with 110? | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | kerio: but you've got a point actually - flexibility comes from proper interface specs (aka API) raher than FOSS firmware for subsystems | 17:09 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: well, having the source to figure out what the API actually do rather than what they claim to do is better | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | not necessarily | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | sometimes it's better to have good specs you can hit the manufs with when their firmware doesn't comply | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | no FOSS source of the zillion HDD firmwares would have made a better interface than SATA | 17:13 |
| chem|st | aholler: I like my helmet... and won't drive without | 17:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and honestly I'm not a tiny bit interested in how Hitachi drives their stepper motors and implements their DSP filters for the GMR heads' readout in their HDD | 17:14 |
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| chem|st | or ride without, on a race track I wear it in my car too... | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | similarly I'm not interested in how TI or Nokia implemented power savings in their BB | 17:15 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer: hit them with usb3 specs as well pls | 17:16 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer: but knowing is half the battle! | 17:16 |
| jonwil | I dont care about the baseband in my N900 | 17:17 |
| chem|st | Jade: your autojoin script is the wrong way raound | 17:17 |
| jonwil | I care about the many bits of userland code that are closed source and in need of an open source replacement :P | 17:17 |
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| aholler | chem|st: so wear it everytime, just think about all accidents all the pedestrians had without wearing an helmet. anyway, I've not wanted to talk about wearing a helmet or not ... | 17:19 |
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| aholler | it should have been a cynical comment about all the stupid rules and laws with which we are tortured every day | 17:22 |
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| jonwil | oh great, I go to run an emerge pass on my Gentoo box and it looks like its going to emerge ALL of KDE because of a new build :( | 17:23 |
| jonwil | God KDE takes FOREVER to build :P | 17:23 |
| aholler | e.g. a company here just made the rule that it is forbidden to use a mobile when walking. | 17:23 |
| aholler | because one had an accident while walking and using a mobile phone ... | 17:24 |
| aholler | so someone thought a rule is needed ... | 17:24 |
| StyXman | jonwil: qt and kdelibs can kill one afternoon with their bare hands :) | 17:27 |
| jonwil | heh, on an old Pentium 4 1.4GHz it can take a few days to emerge everything when there is a QT/KDE version bump | 17:28 |
| aholler | thats why multitasking got inventied | 17:29 |
| jonwil | WOAH, 259 packages to emerge... WOW thats a lot | 17:29 |
| jonwil | aha, the first one it wants is glibc | 17:30 |
| jonwil | which of course then causes half the system to be rebuilt :P | 17:30 |
| neal | s/n approaching 0 | 17:30 |
| StyXman | jonwil: my condolences | 17:31 |
| jonwil | getting back on topic, I still cant get inspired to work on anything more for the N900 | 17:31 |
| jonwil | Cant get anywhere with the Google Transit stuff I want | 17:32 |
| jonwil | or icd-wlan-priority | 17:32 |
| jonwil | operator-name-cbs-widget is as complete as it can get at this point | 17:32 |
| jonwil | only way it could get better is if a miracle occurred and Nokia released source for connui-home-cellular | 17:33 |
| jonwil | but that's never going to happen :( | 17:34 |
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| neal | jonwil: If you are not scratching your own itch, you are not going to remain motivated very long. | 17:37 |
| jonwil | Well the things I am working on are things that interest me but I just cant get anywhere with them | 17:37 |
| jonwil | because of all the closed code and interfaces that keep getting in my way | 17:37 |
| neal | then may be you should try something easier | 17:38 |
| jonwil | nothing easy that I have any interest in | 17:38 |
| neal | then get a gta04 | 17:38 |
| jonwil | cant afford a new device right now | 17:38 |
| jonwil | This N900 has to last me until it breaks | 17:38 |
| jonwil | At least people seem to appreciate my vkb tools | 17:40 |
| neal | for someone who is not earning any money from these activities, you are too concerned about what other people think, IMO | 17:44 |
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| jonwil | :P | 17:44 |
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| badcloud_ | is there anything similar to conkeror or vimperator for the n900? | 19:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's that? | 19:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I know a browser named Konqueror | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | then there's some system monitor thingie iirc called conky | 19:19 |
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| badcloud_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror | 19:27 |
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| StyXman | is there any way to disable the «spalsh screen» (for calling it somehow)? | 20:14 |
| StyXman | I would like to see the boot messages, if possible | 20:14 |
| NIN101 | your kernel needs framebuffer console support | 20:14 |
| NIN101 | power kernel ships the module, so one way would be to insert "modprobe fbcon" at the end of the init_system() funciton in /sbin/preinit | 20:16 |
| StyXman | ok | 20:18 |
| StyXman | tx | 20:18 |
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| orangey | hello all! | 21:14 |
| orangey | I just got a data plan for my 3g (no phone) | 21:14 |
| orangey | Is there a way to make it turn off 3g whenever I'm on wifi automatically | 21:14 |
| orangey | i guess I would need to find out where the network down command is for wifi | 21:15 |
| orangey | rather, for my n900! | 21:15 |
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| orangey | sweet! | 21:34 |
| orangey | package: phone-control | 21:34 |
| orangey | with a bit of net magic | 21:34 |
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