| arnet | I just wonder what to do in order to prevent module unloading. | 00:04 |
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| arnet | People say they just execute lsusb, and when it exits, nit reboots. | 00:04 |
| arnet | ok, and with n900 usb host mode is impossible, right? | 00:04 |
| arnet | I've read couple of threads about it, but didn't understand how it is possible to use it if there's no hardware support? | 00:04 |
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| jack_lt | bbl | 00:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | There is hardware support. | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | It's just not advertised | 00:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | arnet: we hacked the missing hw support into kernel sw to enable N900 hostmode | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. we exploit a testmode of the USB controller, and emulate/work-aound the missing bits of that test mode | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why you got "enumerate" in h-e-n GUI - the hw doesn't support automatic connect-detect in that testmode we exploit | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | same with manual speed selection | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | h-e-n GUI basically just is booston for the VBUS 5V, plus some handles to operate those hacks in power/hostmode-kernel | 00:34 |
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| tramp | which is great. You must how exciting it is to have usb support on a phone. | 00:36 |
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| claw | hey there i have a strange problem.... my camera is in use all the time | 00:38 |
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| claw | /usr/bin/camera-ui is running | 00:38 |
| claw | if i am killing it restarts instandly | 00:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yes, that's what it is supposed to be | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | camera-ui gets preloaded | 00:40 |
| claw | okay | 00:40 |
| claw | but when im trying to start flashlight for example its says : camera is already in use | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr | 00:40 |
| claw | after reboot the problem is still there | 00:40 |
| claw | nothing is running that is using the camera | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Does the camera work? | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | I've heard of a broken camera causing these symptoms. | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | my flashlight works just fine: open camera-door, close friggin camera-ui, open system status menu -> there it is | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | and yes I still think opening the cam-door should start flashlight instantly | 00:43 |
| claw | if i start nativ camera application its just black | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless you push the camera button while sliding open the door | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | kernel update without re-installing fcam drivers? | 00:44 |
| claw | mh... DocScrutinizer | 00:44 |
| claw | is installiert bfs-kernel a few days ago | 00:45 |
| claw | lets see | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha that one is missing any working fcam drivers | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | afaik | 00:45 |
| claw | so should i turn back to advanced-kernel ? | 00:47 |
| claw | or is there a way to fix this | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | uninstall fcam and all other augmented camera apps, (go back to power kernel,) find fcam drivers matching your kernel, install drivers and camera apps | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, installing the apps usually will pull the drivers as dependencies | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | idont :-P know if bfs meanwhile has drivers now | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask the maintainer idont | 00:50 |
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| arnet | okay, it seems I'll try my software with n900 | 00:57 |
| arnet | And, besides, recently I installed SSU on it, that's perfect, but vkeyboard stopped to work. | 00:57 |
| arnet | Is it a known issue? | 00:58 |
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| tramp | what is ssu, i havent gotten around to searching | 01:01 |
| arnet | CSSU, I guess. Community improvements. | 01:01 |
| tramp | when i have 10 apps open i stop opening new ones superfluously | 01:02 |
| tramp | i installed cssu once and it just erred | 01:02 |
| tramp | probably because rootfs was full | 01:03 |
| arnet | hm | 01:03 |
| tramp | im trying to check dependencies for a package im building, but im getting an error | 01:04 |
| tramp | (^im pretty sure it was the rootfs) | 01:04 |
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| tramp | thats 2 different subjects, does that make sense? | 01:05 |
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| tramp | [end of cssu subject] | 01:07 |
| tramp | im trying to check dependencies for a package im building, but im getting an error | 01:07 |
| tramp | $ dpkg-depcheck -m dpkg-buildpackage -b | 01:07 |
| tramp | chown: changing ownership of `debian/rdiff-backup/usr/share/doc/rdiff-backup-1.2.8/COPYING': Operation not permitted | 01:07 |
| tramp | dh_installdocs: command returned error code 256 | 01:07 |
| tramp | make: *** [binary] Error 1 | 01:07 |
| tramp | sh: bad signal name 's' | 01:07 |
| tramp | dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 | 01:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~cssu | 01:10 |
| infobot | cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 01:10 |
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| jonwil | hi | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | tramp: is debian/rdiff-backup/usr/share/doc/rdiff-backup-1.2.8/COPYING on VFAT? | 01:12 |
| tramp | no | 01:13 |
| tramp | ~/src/rdiff-backup | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, with a symlink a bindmount it still can be on VFAT, the path doesn't tell much about it | 01:14 |
| tramp | i was just checking | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | df -h debian/rdiff-backup/usr/share/doc/rdiff-backup-1.2.8/COPYING will tell | 01:15 |
| tramp | its not symlinked and /home is still mounted as ext3 | 01:15 |
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| tramp | interesting | 01:16 |
| tramp | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 01:17 |
| tramp | /dev/mmcblk0p2 2.0G 1.5G 380M 81% /home | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm, and /home is most likely ext3 | 01:17 |
| tramp | yes | 01:18 |
| tramp | /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /.debian/home type ext3 (0) | 01:18 |
| tramp | ... | 01:18 |
| tramp | where did .debian come from!? | 01:19 |
| tramp | where did .debian come from!? | 01:19 |
| tramp | sorry repost | 01:19 |
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| tramp | my mistake | 01:22 |
| tramp | dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback) | 01:22 |
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| tramp | Any ideas? | 01:30 |
| tramp | I bet it would work if I ran it as root. | 01:31 |
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| tramp | yup, it got to dpkg-genchanges | 01:38 |
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| jonwil | anyone know of some good tutorials on how to write status bar widgets or otherwise someone who can help me figure out all the stuff I need to know? I have the core logic of my Cell Broadcast SMS app running now, I just need to change it so that instead of writing to a log file, it displays UI | 01:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Woo! | 01:42 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 01:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Alas - no. | 01:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | There is a widget to remove the operator name, and also one to add a signal strength for wifi in numbers, which might be worth a look | 01:43 |
| jonwil | where can I find these widgets? | 01:45 |
| tramp | i saw them in the repos | 01:46 |
| tramp | just the latter one | 01:46 |
| jonwil | ok | 01:47 |
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| jonwil | hmmm should I post on the forums or mailing list to see if anyone can help? | 01:48 |
| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bproperty%5D=name&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bvalue%5D=status&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bproperty%5D=title&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bvalue%5D=same | 01:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Post _everywhere_ | 01:48 |
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| jonwil | Which forum would be the most appropriate? | 01:54 |
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| tramp | talk.maemo.org? | 01:54 |
| jonwil | I mean which forum on tmo | 01:54 |
| tramp | hmm | 01:56 |
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| tramp | theyre forums are just too organized to decide | 01:58 |
| tramp | their* | 01:58 |
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| jonwil | maybe I should start with a mailing list post | 02:03 |
| jonwil | all the technical people hang out there | 02:03 |
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| tramp | sounds good | 02:03 |
| jonwil | mostly because of the low signal-to-noise ratio on tmo | 02:04 |
| tramp | and because its a mailing list | 02:04 |
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| pigeon | does anyone know how i could edit the n900 addressbook.db file? doesn't seem to work with the normal db_* tools | 03:20 |
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| psycho_oreos | I think they're sqlite type of db aren't they? | 03:23 |
| pigeon | it's a berkeley db file | 03:28 |
| jonwil | evolution-data-server-addressbook (the package that handles addressbook.db) has a dependancy on libdb4.2, libedata-book, libedataserver, and libebook | 03:29 |
| jonwil | all 5 packages are open source so it should be possible to find out how the data is stored | 03:30 |
| pigeon | things like db_dump seems to be happy, but i'm not sure how i should try editing things. | 03:31 |
| jonwil | Why do you want to edit it? | 03:31 |
| pigeon | there's a few contacts, if i try to edit it from the ui, the contacts app crashes. | 03:32 |
| pigeon | delete and create it again might fix it, but i was to see if i can find out why which field or info actually crashes it. | 03:33 |
| psycho_oreos | I wonder if it would help if you ran that program from terminal | 03:34 |
| pigeon | the contacts app? | 03:34 |
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| psycho_oreos | or whichever `app' that is crashing when you tried to edit the contacts | 03:37 |
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| pigeon | that's weird. | 03:54 |
| pigeon | if i run osso-addressbook at a shell (which doesn't actually bring up any gui), and then i go the the Contacts, then editing is fine, no crash. | 03:55 |
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| jonwil | mail sent to the mailing list :) | 04:14 |
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| jonwil | anyone here know of an N900 mapping app that can do public transport stuff? | 07:45 |
| jonwil | i.e. Google Transit | 07:46 |
| jonwil | type thing | 07:46 |
| psycho_oreos | I think there are but they are typically localised variants | 07:47 |
| joga | jonwil modrana can do that in some proportion I think, and maep at least can show the bus/etc. lines where I live | 07:47 |
| jonwil | let me read modrana feature list | 07:48 |
| jonwil | thats if I can find the feature list | 07:49 |
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| jonwil | bah, cant find a usable feature list | 07:54 |
| jonwil | google is no help | 07:54 |
| psycho_oreos | jonwil, would this be it? http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SystemFunctionalityEN | 07:56 |
| jonwil | That doesnt tell me anything about if it supports public transit stuff and if so, what sort of it | 07:57 |
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| psycho_oreos | to me it seems more like a GPS recorder and recaller tool simply by skimming through the features and stuff written on main page | 07:58 |
| psycho_oreos | err main wiki page | 07:58 |
| jonwil | yeah | 07:58 |
| jonwil | All I want is a navigation app that supports Google Transit transit data | 07:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | Isn't google transit data not publically available? | 08:21 |
| joga | modrana is more than a gps recorder, it has modes for bus and tram etc but I'm not sure how finished those are | 08:25 |
| jonwil | it depends on the operator | 08:25 |
| jonwil | My transit operator makes Google Transit GTFS data available | 08:25 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 08:26 |
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| psycho_oreos | !aegis | 08:46 |
| psycho_oreos | ~aegis | 08:46 |
| infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif | 08:46 |
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| woldrich | do anyone know where the radio stations is stored? | 08:56 |
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| Sicelo | each radio app should have it's own db, i suppose. afact there is no centralized location | 08:58 |
| psycho_oreos | there's like two FMRX programs that I know of | 08:58 |
| woldrich | I mean in the default media player thingy | 09:00 |
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| woldrich | oh jesus | 09:01 |
| SpeedEvil | The python one is stupidly laggy | 09:01 |
| SpeedEvil | IME | 09:01 |
| woldrich | they actually use sqlite for the list of radio stations | 09:02 |
| * Sicelo finds cfm to be the smoothest. and Martin Grimme's radio is the best for me, with 0.05MHz steps. | 09:02 | |
| Sicelo | if only they didn't use the 'slider' | 09:02 |
| Sicelo | yeah woldrich. most stuff is sqlite :P | 09:02 |
| woldrich | grr | 09:02 |
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| Sicelo | ~ime | 09:04 |
| infobot | i guess ime is in my experience, or input method editor | 09:04 |
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| slonopotamus | ~~ | 09:06 |
| woldrich | ~' | 09:07 |
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| cityLights | who is going to this year FOSDEm? | 12:18 |
| jacekowski | it was few months ago | 12:18 |
| jacekowski | next fosdem is next year | 12:18 |
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| cityLights | right 4-5 feb | 12:19 |
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| jacekowski | i'm going | 12:24 |
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| Juozapas | is it possible to watch vimeo clips on n900? | 14:16 |
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| psycho_oreos | no idea, try | 14:21 |
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| arnet | again, did anyone hear that virtual keyboard stops working after CSSU install? | 14:48 |
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| psycho_oreos | not in my case | 14:49 |
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| arnet | I found only one link on google, to be precise in cache http://goo.gl/ygU21 | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | arnet: no | 14:51 |
| arnet | I use ukeyboard with extra keymaps. may be that's the reason. | 14:51 |
| arnet | hmmm... | 14:51 |
| psycho_oreos | ime inputs such as scim, maemocjk, etc may interfere but I cannot see how CSSU can interfere. Plus the guy in that link doesn't really know what he's on about, he has multiple issues and he couldn't describe his situation properly | 14:54 |
| arnet | yep... but thanks for the hint, I'll look whether I have scim and maemocjk installed. | 14:54 |
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| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, bought a new F - F adapter, no improvements | 15:30 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/17/nanoparticle_electronics/ | 15:53 |
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| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, this grey one I have http://pulsator.com/product/879921/809/CMP-USBADAP4.html | 16:39 |
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| * SpeedEvil was stuck in the town centre waiting for a bus. | 17:34 | |
| SpeedEvil | For no good reason, I went into all the mobile phone shops, and asked about n9. | 17:34 |
| jacekowski | and | 17:35 |
| jacekowski | what happened | 17:35 |
| jacekowski | have you bought one | 17:35 |
| javispedro | ... and you now have reason to believe the n9 is all but a dream? | 17:35 |
| javispedro | *only a dream ;P | 17:36 |
| javispedro | cmon, the expectation! | 17:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | jacekowski: naah - not stocked of course. | 17:43 |
| SpeedEvil | If every one of us goes in every day to all the shops, and asks for it... :) | 17:44 |
| javispedro | heh, it was known at least, that's a plus when compared to over here. | 17:45 |
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| dreamer | hey all. anyone familiar with easydebian? I'm trying to upgrade the image to the latset packages. then my n900 suddenly rebooted and now dpkg is 'stuck'. I get an 'E: dpkg was interupted ..' after which 'dpkg --configure -a' gives a 'dpkg: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file '/var/lib/dpkg/status': Input/output error' | 17:47 |
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| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, we measure 5.06 V, f -f adapter, connected to n900 via usb cable | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you checked for right polarity? | 17:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also, could you possibly use a 50 Ohm resistor to touch VBUS and GND to create a load? | 18:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or alternatively use any of those silly USB gadgets that have no electronics at all and just abuse the USB for power supply, like lamp or fan or dunno what else exists | 18:04 |
| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, will check for the right polarity later ... | 18:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I could think of any other process on your system running in background detects plugin of USB logic (aka session start) and then interfere with bq24150 by dunno which action. Rule out by using a load that has no logic, no connection to data lines of USB. Other than that I only could think of either all your adapters being messed up or broken, or your N900 hw - incl battery - has a problem | 18:08 |
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| jack_lt | hmm | 18:17 |
| jack_lt | I don't think I have signs that something is wrong with my battery | 18:18 |
| jack_lt | all though mu n900 acts weird sometimes when charging via usb cable, lockups | 18:18 |
| jack_lt | *my | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | to rule that out you may want to make sure your screen backlight is off when starting booston | 18:19 |
| jack_lt | screen backlight off? | 18:19 |
| jack_lt | you mean notification light? | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, as it draws a bit of current from battery. If there'S a problem with battery, switching light off may help | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | I mean display screen backlight | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | and pretty please test with a POWERED usb hub! | 18:22 |
| jack_lt | via settings > display? | 18:22 |
| * DocScrutinizer suggests lockswitch | 18:22 | |
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| * jack_lt has power saving mode on | 18:23 | |
| jack_lt | 'display stays lit when charging' (off here) | 18:24 |
| jack_lt | backlight time-out > 30 sec | 18:24 |
| jack_lt | lockswitch? | 18:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | *sigh* | 18:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that little slider thing right small side of device? | 18:27 |
| jack_lt | ah :) | 18:27 |
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| jack_lt | doesn't help | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | your noze about device locking up during charging worries me | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | note* | 18:31 |
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| jack_lt | it happens sometimes/ then it seems hard to boot the device | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | also your kernel worries me, afaik it's the PK that has this incredibly nasty I2C bug | 18:32 |
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| jack_lt | actually it happens when charging with the adapter | 18:33 |
| jack_lt | which kernel is recommended? | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, to haunt bugs always use stock kernel | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | it won't work for hostmode, but should rule out any hidden bugs in PK48 for good | 18:34 |
| * jack_lt has pk48 | 18:34 | |
| dreamer | meh, anyone on idea how to get my easydebian to work again? | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | and that I2C bug is all but hidden meanwhile - I shouted and swore enough here in this channel so it's supposed to be gone in latest powerkernel | 18:35 |
| dreamer | hmm, just realized I didn't install the latest image (v3d instead of v3e), maybe that one works better | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | absolutely weird hw related problems like yours seems to be are exactly what'S to be expected from that I2C bug btw | 18:36 |
| jack_lt | hmm | 18:36 |
| jack_lt | and the bug is in 46 also? | 18:37 |
| jack_lt | pk 46 | 18:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I don't think so, but I'm not sure | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | check pk changelog, look for bq27200 | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | the versions that claim to support bq27200 sysfs interface will most likely have the bug | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | aka battery gauge chip | 18:39 |
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| jack_lt | 49: * add support for accessing bq27200 battery registers using ioctl | 18:41 |
| jack_lt | 48: * disabled board-rx51-peripherals.diff (disabled autoloading bq27x00_battery module) | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | you'll probably need to read the powerkernel tmo thread | 18:42 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/17/verizon_privacy/ | 18:42 |
| jack_lt | powerkernel tmo thread? | 18:44 |
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| jack_lt | sorry that's too much jargon for me | 18:46 |
| jack_lt | :) | 18:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaNzEqhAa1s&feature=feedrec_grec_index | 18:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jack_lt: >> * BME and bq27x00_battery module cannot live together << indicates this kernel has NO nasty I2C patch/bug which got introduced to "fix" that issue | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~tmo | 18:50 |
| infobot | somebody said tmo was http://talk.maemo.org, or trolls, morons, oxes | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71879 | 18:50 |
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| RST38h | Since when script kiddiez started tweaking kernels? | 18:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=11558701 | 19:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: ^^^ check there for first date mentioning the I2C hack | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: the real problem is you can't discuss with script kiddies, you only can shout at them and that usually also doesn't help | 19:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | seems v49 implements some new "magic" involving ioctl and I'm all but sure this hack will work now and will *not* mess with I2C causing collisions or deadlocks or whatever - note I say I dunno, I haven't checked the new "magic" yet | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems the thread has quite a number of reported issues with 49 regarding bq27x00 though | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | starting with post #1805 | 19:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/with/after/ | 19:11 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: starting after post #1805 | 19:11 |
| jack_lt | pk 48 has the bug or not? | 19:13 |
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| dreamer | hmm, somehow the internal memory of my n900 doesn't get recognized by the host when I'm in storage mode | 19:15 |
| dreamer | I only see the expansion micro-sd | 19:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jack_lt: pk48 definitely has the bug | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1008209&highlight=bq27*+joerg*#post1008209 | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | ff | 19:18 |
| dreamer | hmm, the disk is still mounted on the phone. strange | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | jack_lt: unclear what's status of pk49 - might have even worse bugs, like yours maybe | 19:19 |
| * jack_lt uses pk 48 atm | 19:19 | |
| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, which kernel do you advise | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | use 46, you're on the safe side I think | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | but for debug purposes I strongly recommend going back to stock kernel for now, then check booston there | 19:21 |
| jack_lt | ok, will check later | 19:21 |
| jack_lt | thx so far | 19:21 |
| jack_lt | bbl | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks for reporting | 19:21 |
| dreamer | I see the internal storage show up in dmesg, but it doesn't get mounted | 19:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dreamer: storage only gets unmounted and exposed to USB when no app/process has open filehandles on it, otherwise umount fails | 19:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dreamer lsof/fuser might be your best friends | 19:23 |
| dreamer | on the phone or the host? | 19:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or - to start with - simply close *all* running apps | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | on phone obviously | 19:24 |
| dreamer | I have | 19:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sometimes a reboot does wonders ;-D | 19:26 |
| dreamer | ok, I tried lsof and fuser on both storage devices (/dev/mmcb1k{0-1} ) | 19:26 |
| dreamer | DocScrutinizer: rebooting is for windows-users ;) | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | umount ~user/MyDocs -> check error messages | 19:27 |
| dreamer | hmm, Device or resource busy | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | see? ;-) | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw mmcblk | 19:28 |
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| dreamer | there is no mmcblk | 19:28 |
| dreamer | there is device 0 and 1, each hase a their own partitions p{1,2,3} | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh? /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 19:28 |
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| dreamer | (actually the expansions only has one partition, but you know what I mean) | 19:29 |
| dreamer | anyway .. | 19:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:/usr/sbin# mount|grep /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir) | 19:29 |
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| dreamer | I don't have my ~user/Mydocs mounted separately actually hehe | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | IroN900:/usr/sbin# ls /dev/mmcb1k* | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | ls: Zugriff auf /dev/mmcb1k* nicht möglich: No such file or directory | 19:30 |
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| dreamer | ok, I'll try rebooting. I see lots of /.debian/ stuff in mount. that's perhaps because I was playing with EasyDebian (want to try new image actually) | 19:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | HAHA yeah, you bet | 19:31 |
| dreamer | ah, check | 19:31 |
| dreamer | I ran the 'Close Debian' from the menu | 19:31 |
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| dreamer | now it's shows up \o/ | 19:31 |
| dreamer | ok, good to keep in mind hehe | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | easy, isn't it? ;-P | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw I'd call easy-debian an "app" | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | which probably should've been closed correctly | 19:32 |
| kerio | it's not a normal app, it does shit with unixy stuff | 19:32 |
| dreamer | it's more like a chroot isn't it? | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | kerio: I know | 19:32 |
| kerio | you couldn't run easy debian on iOS :) | 19:33 |
| kerio | i mean, you could, but apple would never approve it | 19:33 |
| * dreamer trying to get this to work in easydebian: http://enchevetres.org/doku.php?id=tek:puredata | 19:33 | |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-17 18:24:37] <DocScrutinizer> or - to start with - simply close *all* running apps [2011-10-17 18:24:46] <dreamer> I have | 19:33 |
| dreamer | except the image is really old -_- | 19:33 |
| dreamer | still lenny | 19:33 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: close *all* the apps! _o/ | 19:33 |
| dreamer | DocScrutinizer: well I did close easydebian, just not everything was umounted | 19:33 |
| dreamer | < kerio> i mean, you could, but apple would never approve it << hahaha | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-17 18:32:41] <DocScrutinizer> which probably should've been closed ***correctly*** | 19:34 |
| kerio | dreamer: well, iOS is a bsd system | 19:34 |
| dreamer | I know | 19:34 |
| dreamer | and the current debian userspace can work with bsd kernels ;) | 19:34 |
| dreamer | but easydebian is still lenny, so I don't think that would work easily | 19:35 |
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| kerio | why? it's not running the whole of lenny | 19:37 |
| dreamer | true, ok I'm not a developer, but I'm guessing not all the 'hooks' may be there to do the full chroot. I donnu | 19:37 |
| dreamer | dunno* | 19:37 |
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| dreamer | anyway, let me see if this newer image can actually d-u | 19:37 |
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| jack_lt | DocScrutinizer, testing booston with stock kernel, means also connecting usb peripherals? | 19:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure | 19:41 |
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| jack_lt | k | 19:42 |
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| messerting | Yo, the wiki is down: http://wiki.maemo.org/ | 20:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.maemo.org >> It's just you. http://wiki.maemo.org is up. Check another site? << | 20:35 |
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| messerting | Works now | 20:37 |
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| messerting | (there was a message about db connection error) | 20:37 |
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| ErwinJunge | I'm going to try to build xbmc for Maemo. How do I make a deb package out of the result of "make install"? | 20:43 |
| ErwinJunge | Assuming I can get "make" to not blow up that is | 20:43 |
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| merlin1991 | ErwinJunge: have a look at debhelper | 20:47 |
| merlin1991 | or check the debian/ directory of any other package | 20:48 |
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| merlin1991 | btw are you compiling darhma or eden? | 20:48 |
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| Sazpaimon | anyone interested in a steam chat plugin for telepathy? | 20:58 |
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| toxaris | Hello | 21:20 |
| toxaris | Enyone inte to Mail For Exchange problems? | 21:20 |
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| toxaris | in to* | 21:20 |
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| bigbluehat | I've got an N800…under my desk….what are my OS options besides OS2008? any? | 21:37 |
| bigbluehat | I'm cool with sticking with OS2008 if a) I can get #couchdb running on it, and b) it has some amount of future (bug fixes, etc) | 21:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | bigbluehat: I got no idea, but maybe there's a link to info: | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~cssu | 21:40 |
| infobot | cssu is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 21:40 |
| bigbluehat | cool. thanks. | 21:42 |
| bigbluehat | looks like I actually want this one: http://wiki.maemo.org/Diablo_Community_Project | 21:43 |
| bigbluehat | since Maemo5 isn't compatible with anything < N900 | 21:43 |
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| ErwinJunge | merlin1991: current git, but so far I'm only managing to get it to blow up.... | 21:50 |
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| dreamer | uhg, ok. can't upgrade easydebian. that's for sure. and I can't install any other .debs either. unfortunately | 21:57 |
| dreamer | so. how would I go about getting pd-extended to run on my n900? :P | 21:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bigbluehat: I know, but iirc there's been a link to diablo-CSSU on that page above | 22:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bigbluehat: that's why I said "there's", not "this is" | 22:03 |
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| ErwinJunge | How hard is it to get autoconf >=2.63 on scratchbox? | 22:08 |
| bigbluehat | DocScrutinizer: gotcha, sorry for being lazy with my parsing. :) | 22:13 |
| bigbluehat | I'll give the CSSU build a try soon | 22:13 |
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| * dreamer trying upgrade again, this time with aptitude .. | 22:57 | |
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| bindi | hmm | 23:01 |
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| bindi | i wonder if it's possible to update your n900's ip to no-ip | 23:01 |
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| Sicelo | should be :/ | 23:03 |
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| bindi | orly :) | 23:09 |
| bindi | a better idea though | 23:09 |
| bindi | how do i execute a script every time internet connection is established? | 23:09 |
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| Sicelo | if someone doesn't tell u how here, u will find it on tmo or wmo. i know it's there | 23:11 |
| bindi | i'm looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/DbusScripts | 23:11 |
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| bindi | /some/script * * com.nokia.icd status_changed * WLAN_INFRA | 23:12 |
| NIN101 | bindi: put it in /etc/network/if-up.d/ | 23:12 |
| bindi | for wlan :-) | 23:12 |
| bindi | oh, okay | 23:12 |
| bindi | :D | 23:12 |
| bindi | i can just name it script.py and it will be executed? | 23:12 |
| bindi | chmod +x ofcourse | 23:12 |
| NIN101 | it'll be executed whenever an interface gets up | 23:13 |
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| NIN101 | you'll get an environment variable telling you what interface atm is about to be "up". | 23:13 |
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| NIN101 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Mhn1kA0c somethign like this would get the time from an network server when an internet connection was established over WLAn. | 23:14 |
| slonopotamus | fyi: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1110137&postcount=33 | 23:15 |
| bindi | what other possibilities are there? | 23:15 |
| bindi | i'm fine with 3g and wlan | 23:15 |
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| Sicelo | nice script NIN101 | 23:17 |
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| messerting | Norwegian TV show will stream 24 hours of one persons life using Nokia N9 this Friday: http://www.tv2.no/underholdning/senkveld/-hva-om-jeg-treffer-dama-i-mitt-liv-3611481.html | 23:20 |
| SpeedEvil | That is probably too long playing angry birds. | 23:21 |
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| NIN101 | Sicelo: thx. | 23:22 |
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| NIN101 | bindi: you can replace the if... with "if [ "$IFACE" = "wlan0" -o "$IFACE" = "gprs0" ] ; then" i think, and then your python command... | 23:25 |
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| bindi | NIN101: i have ip.py in /etc/network/if-up.d and i made it executable | 23:29 |
| bindi | changing from wlan to 3G and nothing | 23:29 |
| bindi | running the script manually does the job though | 23:29 |
| bindi | hmm | 23:34 |
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| ShadowJK | I saw a tv ad of N9 today | 23:53 |
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| ShadowJK | and local newspaper's (non-technical newspaper) editor reviewed N9 | 23:53 |
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| ShadowJK | in a humorous manner, by writing of the hypothetical nokia engineer called "Steve Sboj", who among other things is responsible for making it difficult to use MfE, and difficult to close apps, etc etc :P | 23:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | bindi: ip.py seems to have the wrong extension - no really | 23:56 |
| bindi | huh? :< | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't think the process working on all those scripts is made to start python scripts just like shell does | 23:57 |
| bindi | right | 23:57 |
| bindi | so #/!bin/sh python ip.py? :D | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe even the right shebang helps, if you don't have it already | 23:58 |
| bindi | the what o_O | 23:58 |
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| Sicelo | :) | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | basically yes, exactly what you mentioned | 23:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~wtf shebang | 23:59 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what shebang means... | 23:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~shebang | 23:59 |
| infobot | i guess shebang is the "hash-bang" (#!) line at the start of a script that instructs the shell which interpreter to use | 23:59 |
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