IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2011-08-14

DocScrutinizer51more N900 at CCCamp than I thought got sold ;-)00:01
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SiceloSpeedEvil: what do u mean at when you say "Keeping audio active when idle. Pulseaudio can use a large amount of power in some cases, playing 'silence'."00:02
Sicelohow can that be avoided?00:02
SpeedEvilStoppig the audio stream, not playing 'null'00:03
SpeedEvil044631250       Neil Hancock    The Wilderness of four-200:04
DocScrutinizer51when Im got a SIM for local camp GSM, the guy at POC desk who sold it to me asked me if there's already new firmware for N950 he would get his next day00:04
DocScrutinizer51Sicelo: close audio device/pipe/process on idle/silent00:05
Sicelothanks  :)00:05
Sicelois it too bad an idea to use the device with bme stopped?00:07
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SpeedEvilSicelo: It will cause unexpected reboots00:09
SpeedEvilAnd the modem to stop working unexpectedly00:10
Itschue_althi is extended call log the only way to view the call duration time?00:11
peterbjornxzdocscrutinizer do you have any info on the emmc image format00:11
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DocScrutinizer51sorry no00:16
Sicelothanks for help. see y'all laters00:20
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peterbjornxzdocscrutinizer, is there any info on FIASCO images then?00:27
infobotL4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL:
infobotL4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL:
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer51: I wrote a cli client for youtube.00:41
DocScrutinizer51Shapeshifter: cool00:44
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peterbjornxzim making progress on reverse engineering the flasher so i can write a FIASCO/eMMC format image creator tool01:34
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GeneralAntillesUm, Firefox 6?02:09
GeneralAntillesWasn't 5 out, like, 3 months ago?02:10
fizzieThey have that new "rapid-release" cycle going on.02:11
javispedrowhat you say!02:11
javispedrothey're at 12 already.02:11
Hurrianusing firefox? y u no use nightly02:11
* javispedro has decided to keep 3.6 until they get sane again02:11
zashCan't they just stfu and use the 'buntu versioning scheme (year.month)02:12
fizzieSix weeks per release or something-such. After a decade or so they'll hit Firefox 100.02:12
keriozash: they will start doing that from version 1102:12
GeneralAntillesThat's silly.02:12
keriowell, version 12 probably02:12
fizzieOne presumes they were just jealous of Chrome's bigger numbers.02:13
zashWhy don't they just release Firefox 2000 already02:13
zashand then +=1000 that02:13
javispedrowell someone thought they ought to do something or they would be quickly surpassed by chrome in quota02:13
zashuntil it's OVER 9000!!!02:13
javispedroit's funny cause at least for me it's actually doing the opposite.02:14
javispedro(and I'm a chrome hater)02:14
Hurrianjavispedro, 3.6 is slower than 4.002:14
javispedroso what02:15
Hurriandisable tabs on top02:15
Hurrianpretty much the same02:15
javispedrothe only pages that are javascript constrainedand I usually visit are: a local TV guide and engadget. The local TV guide took like 10 seconds to load in Firefox1 and takes 8 seconds to load in Firefox3 despite all the performance crazy according to benchmarks02:16
javispedroand Engadget will always use all available CPU time no matter the performance, so no big deal.02:16
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flailingmonkeyjavispedro: too true :p02:16
MohammadAGjavispedro, I have a local site that'll make you feel better02:17
MohammadAG5 seconds on microB and the N900's a goner02:17
javispedroalso, Firefox4 doesn't support my extensions. and I really mean mine.02:19
javispedro<--- lazy bastard.02:19
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peterbjornxzthis function in flasher is confusing as hell02:41
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peterbjornxzanyone got any info on nokia's image format (FIASCO/eMMC the format with header 0xB4)02:43
peterbjornxz*magic 0xb402:44
Hurrianpeter, flasher -F -u02:44
peterbjornxzno, i want to pack a eMMC image for the flasher02:44
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peterbjornxzis the mmc image solely the ext3 part03:03
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peterbjornxzor how does this work03:03
Hurrianit contains p1 mydocs p2 ext3 p3 swap03:03
peterbjornxzok, then how is it only 250mb03:03
Hurriansparse file03:04
Hurrianp2 is mostly empty03:04
Hurrianmaemo ubifs moves files to p2 on first boot03:04
peterbjornxzok, then how do i create a new one from scratch03:04
Hurrianit's hard03:05
Hurrianwell, it's hard for emmc03:05
Hurriansince you dont know exactly where the partitions start and end03:05
Hurrianand loopmount doesnt work well with sparse files03:06
Hurrianjust reflash device and use backupmenu to fudge around with partitions03:06
Hurrianthen back it all up, and store it as a backupmenu... backup.03:06
Hurrianbtw don't mess with the partition order03:07
Hurrianp1 must be fat32, p2 must be ext3, p3 must be swap03:07
Hurrianunless you changed genfstab.awk and rcS-late03:07
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Hurrianyou are free to shrink all of them and make mmcblk0p4 a partition for nitdroid though03:08
peterbjornxzi dont want to install nitdroid03:08
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peterbjornxzi wanted to build a modified image on my dev box03:08
Hurrianbackupmenu would be easier to deal with03:08
peterbjornxzcause my n900 has a habit of rebooting when copying files or doing other IO/RAM intensive work03:09
Hurrianflasher is extremely cryptic, the way it sends images over the line to directly flash the device03:09
Hurrianpeterbjornxz, look into improving N900's IO performance with swappolube03:09
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Hurrianblame ohmd and cfs for that03:10
Hurrianespecially cfs03:10
peterbjornxzso theres no simple way for modifying a mmc image on pc03:10
Hurriantoo bad ohmd interferes with bfs, but without ohmd the phone's processes run wild03:11
peterbjornxzbut, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start03:11
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peterbjornxzbut, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start (resending cause my internet connection is acting up)03:17
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Hurrianthere's a layout file03:21
peterbjornxzit doesnt contain offsets into the image03:21
peterbjornxzjust sizes03:21
Hurrianiirc there's something in the image that you can edit by hand to change sizes03:22
peterbjornxzits the+03:22
peterbjornxzlayout file03:22
Hurriananyways, it's all cryptic to me, i never poked in maemo 5 flasher, i poked in maemo 6 flasher03:22
peterbjornxzbut, from what ive seen03:22
peterbjornxzthe layout file just defines the layout on-chip03:22
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peterbjornxzbut says nothing about the image layout03:22
peterbjornxzbut , how does maemo "6" do it03:28
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Psido i need to install a windows driver to get the n900 to charge?08:10
Psikeeps saying there isnt enough power when i know the port can supply 500mA, so im assuming its a driver issue and it cant ask for high current mode08:11
SpeedEvilPut it in ass rage mode.08:12
SpeedEvilmass storage08:12
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Psisame thing08:13
Psisays not enough power08:13
Psiow, now its charging08:13
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Psianyone looking into the n900 10mW vs 100mW  wifi to see if the chip can be told to run at more than 100mW ?08:15
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a-saintanyone uses cleven09:26
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slonopotamusholy crap, i have my n800 running 2.6.3810:07
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gotten1n800 have also maemo?10:12
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slonopotamusit had10:15
RST38hslono: BOTHERER!!!10:20
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PaliX-Fade: ping11:04
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lardmanhi Itschue11:59
Itschuelardman didi you know if extended call log is the only way to view cal time duration?12:00
lardmanyou could probably access the db yourself directly12:01
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Itschueand i can see the call time duration than in the standard call manager?12:01
lardmanI thought that was what extended call log did though?12:02
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Itschueso the ext call man is the only way12:03
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lardmanthat I know of anyway, I've never tried it mind you12:06
lardmanQt gurus: am trying to extract a QList<QVariantList> from a QSettings object. I can use the toList() fn, which gives me a QVariantList, but then I'm missing the inner list. How should I convert it to the correct type?12:07
Itschuei only know find the way with ext call log and the triggers.txt12:07
lardmanthere's also the template conversion method, e.g. value<T>(), but this means I have to do value<QList<QVariantList>>() which confuses the complier12:08
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fizzieNot a Qt person, but that should at least be written as "value<QList<QVariantList> >()" to avoid confusing the compiler with >>.12:13
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slonopotamusand that is weird12:17
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lardmanfizzie: I'll try the space and see what it thinks, thanks12:21
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fizzieIt's the "maximal munch" parsing rule, it has to treat ">>" as the shift-right token no matter how little sense it makes in the context.12:22
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lardmanok that seems to have fixed that little issue, now I need to persuade QSettings that it does want to save my QList<QVariantList> elsewhere... :)12:25
lardmanthanks for the tip fizzie12:25
lardmanI wonder if I should just cast the whole lot to a QVariant to save and read it, then cast it back to my double list once it's out of the QSettings object12:26
villagerit's one of the annoying consequences of C++ overloading < > as a type of brackets in addition to being operators... but I guess there weren't a lot of alternatives left in ascii12:31
lardmanI guess a more intelligent parser might be able to work out the context, but anyway not such a big problem giving a hint in the form of a few spaces12:32
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* lardman settles for using a QSettings array, to undwind one of the QLists12:38
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godtrunkshy i have a problem with my n90014:03
godtrunksit wont start14:03
godtrunkswhat shou i do?14:03
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godtrunkswhat shou di do?14:03
godtrunkswhat shoud i do?14:03
godtrunksmy charging led is not working as well14:04
godtrunksi try tu turn on the phone14:04
godtrunksbut nothing14:04
godtrunksi try to turn on the phone14:04
godtrunksbut nothing14:04
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godtrunksand if i unplug the battery while is at charging the led is orange.and stay orange while is charging14:05
godtrunksany ideeas?14:05
robbiethe1stCheck forums14:06
godtrunksor shoud i go with the phone at warranty14:06
godtrunksi think is a hardware problem with it14:06
robbiethe1stYou'll never get a N900 back14:07
robbiethe1stThey've stopped replacing them with N900s.14:07
robbiethe1stYou'd get an E7 or N8, depending on how you ask14:07
godtrunksi still have warranty14:07
robbiethe1stNokia says they don't have any more replacement N900s14:07
godtrunksbut why?14:08
robbiethe1stAsk them.14:08
godtrunksi pay for n90014:08
godtrunksnot for n8 or e 714:08
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robbiethe1stDoesn't mean they can fix it, or have another device to replace it with. So they'll give you a comparable one, in terms of cost.14:08
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robbiethe1stSo you'd be better off checking forums, seeing if flashing will fix it... and if not,  either trying to sell it on ebay and buy another, or getting it replaced with a 'lesser' N8, sell that...14:09
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godtrunksthe phone will not enter in update mode14:09
robbiethe1stMaby the battery's dead?14:10
robbiethe1stask on forums14:10
godtrunksit works fine untill last night14:10
godtrunksthis morning when i take the phone from charging the phone will not turn on..14:10
robbiethe1stSo... Post a topic on the forums detailing the problem, and explaining what you've tried, exactly14:11
godtrunksis a hardware problme14:12
godtrunksis a hardware problem14:12
robbiethe1stSo? I can't help you14:12
robbiethe1stTry taking it to a local repair shop?14:12
godtrunksso if i'm lucky the replace my phone with another n90014:12
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robbiethe1stIf you send it off to Nokia support, I can *guarantee* you you will not get a N900 back.14:13
godtrunksif not they will give me a brand new nokia N8 or a nokia E7?14:13
godtrunksbut in june the change my phone at warranty14:14
robbiethe1stAsk others who've done it recently14:14
godtrunksi was lucky then i think..14:14
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robbiethe1stCould have been, yes14:14
godtrunksthx for advice14:15
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godtrunksbut i think i will be lucky14:15
godtrunksfor the last time14:15
godtrunksif not14:16
godtrunkswhat phone u recomand me?14:16
godtrunksn8 or e7?14:16
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robbiethe1stI'd probably go with the N8, but you should really check Ebay and see what each is selling for14:16
robbiethe1stfind the one that will sell for the most, and when you get it, sell it *brand new* for as much as possible, buy another used N90014:16
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godtrunksoke :))14:17
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godtrunksbut  nobody from ebay who't send items to romania14:19
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godtrunksbut  nobody from ebay won't send items to romania14:19
robbiethe1stI'm sure some will14:20
robbiethe1stIt's not on the 'shit list' like some countries are14:20
godtrunksyes i know14:20
godtrunksi have to go back to uk14:20
godtrunksto do that14:20
robbiethe1stMakes sense14:20
robbiethe1stI'd make a post on the forums first.14:21
robbiethe1stsee if anyone has any ideas you can try first, just incase14:21
godtrunksi think is from the charger14:21
godtrunksovervoltage to the phone14:21
robbiethe1stNo, I doubt it. The phone will handle up to 20V on the USB port14:22
godtrunksthe phone wor'k perfect untill last night14:22
robbiethe1stMaby the battery fried internally?14:22
godtrunksif the batery is frief14:23
godtrunksthe phone is not working?14:23
godtrunksif the batery is fried14:23
robbiethe1stBatteries *can* fail without warning14:23
robbiethe1stIt's got a protection chip in there that could simply have died14:24
robbiethe1stBut, first, POST A TOPIC14:24
robbiethe1stExplain everything, see if anyone else had the same problem14:24
Dibblah_As far as I've seen, the only protection is some really tiny ESD clamping diodes.14:25
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Dibblah_... And a fuse.14:25
robbiethe1stFor the charger? No. Look at the datasheet for the charging chip14:25
Dibblah_Doesn't matter.14:25
robbiethe1stIt'll shut down charging if the input goes over ~6v, but it can handle 20V14:25
Dibblah_The VUSB also connects to other things than the charging chip.14:26
robbiethe1st...and I know it can. I put 12V into it at one point, and mine's still working14:26
Dibblah_Now that is interesting.14:26
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godtrunksis not entering even in update mode14:26
godtrunksi tryed now with another battery14:26
godtrunksbut nothing14:26
robbiethe1stgodtrunks: when you press the on switch, what happens?14:27
robbiethe1stAbsolutely nothing, or does the screen turn on for a second?14:27
robbiethe1stHm. Unplug it, take the battery out14:27
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robbiethe1stLeave the battery out for about an hour, then try14:27
godtrunksif i leave the battery out14:27
godtrunksand the phone is pluged to the usb port to the computer the led turns on14:28
godtrunkshave orange color14:28
godtrunksand stay on14:28
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robbiethe1stYes. that's the charging chip going into 'emergency charge14:28
robbiethe1st' mode14:28
robbiethe1stWhich means your charging chip's still working at least14:28
godtrunksand if i put the battery the led is still orange14:28
robbiethe1stIt won't start up, though, without the battery working14:29
godtrunksbut not blinking14:29
robbiethe1stYes. That's called 'emergency charge' mode.14:29
godtrunksstay on all the time14:29
robbiethe1stIt will do that for an hour or so14:29
godtrunksi will leave the phone without battery one hour14:30
robbiethe1stBut, that means that there may be something wrong with the battery to rest of device area14:30
godtrunksi have 2 batteryes14:30
godtrunksi will try with bouth after one hour14:30
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keriohave i already stated that i think that not having a hardware charging mode is stupid?14:40
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Hurriankernel-module-cifs isn't working on power4814:42
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Hurrianwait, it works, blame windows.14:52
godtrunksif the charging module is not working14:53
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godtrunksthe phone14:53
godtrunksshoud start14:53
godtrunksbut my isn't start14:53
Hurrianis the battery charged?14:53
godtrunksi took another battery from another phone14:54
Hurrianhow did you whack your TWL4030/BQ24150?14:54
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Hurrianhow did the charging chip break?14:55
godtrunkslast night my phone worked perfecty14:55
godtrunksi leave it at charging14:55
godtrunksover night14:55
godtrunksand this morning the phone is not turning on14:55
Hurrianodd, that happens an awful lot to the n900s14:56
Hurriantried pulling the battery for a few minutes?14:56
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godtrunksthey told me to leave it without battery for 1 hr14:57
Hurrianhow about trying to connect it to PC usb?14:58
cehtehyou saied you have 2 batteries .. same problem with both batteries? .. do you know if one was charged fopr sure?14:58
godtrunksi try to usb14:58
godtrunksis not entering in software update mode14:58
Hurriancold flash then14:58
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Hurriandid the nokia logo show up?14:59
cehtehflashing with unreliable power ... looks dangerous14:59
cehtehwell wont even work then14:59
godtrunksi put the phone in usb14:59
godtrunksbut thonthind14:59
godtrunksbut nothing14:59
cehtehusb connector is not loose?14:59
godtrunksis working perfectly15:00
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godtrunksbut i lose all my data?15:01
Hurrianflasher-3.5 -F image.bin --flash-only=nolo -f15:02
godtrunkswhere can i get the image?15:02
godtrunksor i use maemo flasher15:02
Hurrianimage.bin = rootfs15:02
godtrunkswhere can i get the image15:03
godtrunksfwom where?15:03
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Hurriandon't tell me you haven't reflashed before15:04
cehtehbtw is there a tool to generate new flash images?15:04
Hurrianit just repacks the directory structure though15:05
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cehtehi should investigate that .. making an private customized image15:05
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Hurrianand i've only seen a UBIFS modification, never seen anyone modifying emmc because of the sparse file15:05
cehtehwell not urgend15:06
godtrunkswicj image shoud i use?15:06
godtrunkswich image shoud i use?15:06
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cehtehits just pita since reflashing stock images break my device because of ext4 ... getting it work needs some more steps15:06
Hurriancehteh, same here15:06
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godtrunksoke guys15:07
cehtehgenerating a image with pk and other things installed/configured would be nice15:07
Hurrianext4 is really nice though15:07
godtrunkshow i know wich one shoud i chose?15:07
godtrunkswhat image?15:07
Hurriangodtrunks, you are given a list15:07
HurrianPR1.3 Global15:07
cehtehgodtrunks: well we could tell you, but i urge you to RTFM anyways ...15:08
Hurrianhmm, wonder if we should make everyone on TMO use PR1.3 Global when reflashing15:08
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cehtehprolly not, there are some reasons for localized firmware15:09
Hurriancehteh, seen the amount of people on TMO who are unable to reflash?15:09
Hurrianit's astounding15:09
cehtehyes anD?15:09
godtrunksok and how i make a cold flash15:09
cehtehnormally reflashing is not for causual users15:09
Hurriangodtrunks, read wiki page15:09
cehtehif you dont have a clue then dont try15:09
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Hurrianyou actually dont even need to press U to kick it into reflash mode15:09
cehtehi gtg ..cu15:09
godtrunksis not working flash mode15:10
Hurrian@cehteh: kernel-power is rapidly reaching "needed by casuals"15:10
Hurrianbecause kernel-pr13 is teh suck15:10
Hurriangodtrunks, what do you mean15:10
Hurrianyou need to install flasher too by the way15:11
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godtrunksif i put the usb cable and i press u15:11
godtrunksthe phone is not doing nothing15:11
godtrunksiven the computer15:11
godtrunksis something the phone is not pluget is15:11
godtrunksis something the phone is not pluget in15:11
Hurrianyou hold down U, plug in the phone, then release U15:11
godtrunksyes i know15:11
godtrunksnothing happend15:11
godtrunksif i do that15:11
Hurriantry other USB ports15:12
godtrunksi tried15:12
Hurriandoes the phone show the nokia logo when you plug it in?15:12
godtrunksnothing happend15:12
godtrunksthe led is not turning orange15:12
godtrunksif i take the battery out the orange led turns on and remain on15:12
godtrunksis not blinking15:12
Hurrianof course it doesn't, it doesnt get far enough into maemo to say ACT_DEAD15:13
godtrunksif i put the battery the led remains on15:13
godtrunksnot charginf15:13
Hurriandid you try meego?15:13
Hurrianhmm, now this is really odd15:13
godtrunksi thing it was a overpower for the charger15:13
godtrunksfrom my nokia charger15:13
Hurrianthe official nokia one?15:14
godtrunksbecause untill last night the phone works perfect15:14
godtrunksofficial nokia one15:14
godtrunkswas an electric storm15:14
godtrunksi don't know15:14
godtrunksbut in the morning the phone  was not turning on15:14
godtrunkswhat shoud i do?15:15
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godtrunksis the procesir dead?15:15
godtrunksis the procesor dead?15:15
godtrunksor something?15:15
godtrunksshoud i go to warranty?15:15
Hurrianwell, some part of the board is burnt, and you need to have someone poke around to check which part it is15:15
Hurriandon't need to go to warranty, you might get some POS symbian smartphone15:16
Hurrianelectronics repair store would be fine15:16
godtrunksbut i will lose my warranty15:16
* Hurrian notes down: get voltage regulator for N90015:16
Hurriantell nokia care then not to replace it if they cant fix it15:17
Hurriangive it back as is, then take it to a local shop15:17
jieroDo anybody use Ext4 instead of Ext3 on N900?15:18
godtrunksif not they will replace it with N8 or E7?15:18
Hurrianjiero: me!15:18
Hurriangodtrunks, it's very likely15:18
godtrunksthx for advice15:19
Hurrianjiero, if i can get maemo 5 sdk to not break while installing, i'd push out eMMC and SD raid0 modules + tutorial ;)15:19
Hurrianit's easy to dump insmod and mdadm commands in rcS-late15:20
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jieroHurrian: wow, how do they raid0...15:24
jieroI want to see15:24
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DibblahA local shop is somewhat unlikely to do board-level repairs on anything.15:30
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godtrunksone hour passed17:54
godtrunksi put my battery back but the phone is still not working17:54
godtrunksi leave it more than one hour but nothink17:54
godtrunksthe phone still not turning one17:55
godtrunksany ideeas?17:55
e-yescharging subsystem is crapy in n90017:55
e-yesno idea17:55
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e-yestry to swith it on, then after few seconds (when maemo starts loading) plug into wall charger17:56
godtrunksi can't17:56
e-yesfighted act_dead once in past17:56
godtrunksthe phone is not turning on at all17:56
godtrunkssoftware update is not working either17:57
godtrunkssoftware update mode17:57
godtrunksis not working either17:57
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godtrunksany ideeas?18:02
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* giardia say hello to everybody18:22
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giardiasomebody know how to have sound alerts in Pidgin? i tried everything18:23
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whatwhatwhy don't docx attachments show up in the mail program?18:37
whatwhatI don't care about opening them - I'd just like to know if an email has an attachment18:38
ShadowJKworks for me18:42
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Jonnei have an issue with my jabber accounts (gmail and facebook)18:43
Jonnei changed the passwords for both, and now they won't connect any more18:43
Jonnei get 'network error' not 'authentication failed'18:44
Jonnei tried deleting the accounts, but now i can't even add them again18:44
Jonneanyone know what my issue could be?18:45
Jonnecan i find log files for empathy anywhere?18:45
Jonneskype still works perfectly18:46
Sicelogiardia: Tools > Preferences > Sounds18:48
SiceloJonne: what do u mean 'can't even add them again'?18:50
Sc0rpiusthat happened to me with the Skype account18:51
Jonnewell, i fill in the info, click 'sign in', and the dialog closes without signing itn18:51
Sc0rpiusand I had to delete the whole .skype directory so I could add it again18:52
Sc0rpiusexactly the same thing18:52
Jonnethey show up as 'not signed in'18:52
Sc0rpiusdialog closing without signing in the first time18:52
Sc0rpiusthat exactly happened to me, but with the skype account18:52
Sc0rpiusbecause I changed the password18:52
Jonneso where are the jabber/gtalk/fb config files?18:52
Sc0rpiusgood question18:52
Sc0rpiusin some .somedir18:53
Sc0rpiusmy N900 is in the other room so I can't check :P18:53
Jonne.purple is pidgin, right?18:53
Sc0rpiusbtw I think pidgin is better than the conversations thing18:53
Sc0rpiusI just use Skype there18:54
Sc0rpiusfor all my IMs need: pidgin.18:54
Jonnei just like the integration of empathy18:54
Sicelonot empathy :)18:55
Jonnedon't want to run a seperate app if empathy works most of the time18:55
Jonnei just confuse them because i use empathy on ubuntu, which uses the same libs as maemo's im thing18:56
Sicelou should also check the advanced settings on your accounts, especially ports.. conversations will sometimes change the port for no apparent reason18:57
Jonnei guess i'll look up the exact settings for gtalk18:58
Jonnethe worst thing about im issues is that you're never sure if it's really serverside or not18:58
Jonneespecially facebook has issues keeping im online18:59
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Jonnehmm, google seem to have hidden the proper settings somehow19:08
Sicelowhich ones Jonne ?19:10
Siceloyou can try setting stun server:, stun port : 347819:11
Jonnethe general jabber settings, like the ones you just gave me :p19:11
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Jonnedidn't work19:12
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giardiasomebody know what is the right folder for pidgin default sounds?19:18
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* giardia is wondering why no sound alerts in pidgin, even the options are ok. i tried also to install sound themes and even the command aplay %s but still silent. any suggenstions? maybe an issue with sound folder?20:07
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Sc0rpiusare you in General profile?¿20:11
Sc0rpiusI don't really use sounds alert in pingin20:12
Sicelothought to ask him that20:12
Sc0rpiusbut vibration alerts through pidgin-notify20:12
Sc0rpiusthat I ported to N900 :P20:12
Siceloalso, setting Method to anything other than Automatic may have an influence20:13
Sicelo\0/ Sc0rpius20:13
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giardiai will try if reinstalling will solve20:18
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giardiai don't have "anything" option in Method, but command,no sounds,alsa,esd,automatic,console beep20:22
Sicelolol :) i meant u should leave it at Automatic20:22
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giardiaah, ok. yeah is in automatic.20:26
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giardiacan you check if u have the default sounds in /usr/share/sounds/pidgin  ?20:27
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Sicelo /usr/share/sounds/purple20:29
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giardiathanks...i will try this folder20:30
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Sc0rpiusdoes anyone here use dd-wrt?21:15
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peterbjornxzwrong chatroom, this is the Maemo room21:25
SpeedEvilNot quite, if you're using it with maemo.21:26
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peterbjornxzlike , ddwrt router + maemo device21:26
tank-mani wear shoes while using my maemo device too21:27
peterbjornxzi REALLY need to build one of those serial lvl converters21:27
peterbjornxzi got pretty far on my custom FW but now its crashing after X gets started21:28
peterbjornxzso fbcon is useless21:28
Sc0rpiusI was gonna ask if you hit a bug with the N900 using dd-wrt21:32
Sc0rpiusmy N900 doesn't work with power saving mode in dd-wrt but works fine with stock Linksys firmware21:33
Sc0rpiusI was just wondering if anyone else hit the bug21:33
sasquatch_o/    dd-wrt-micro on siemens se505v2 as accesspoint and no problem connecting with n900 so far21:33
Sc0rpiusmaybe your router has a high build21:33
Sc0rpiusI mean a newer build21:34
sasquatchi'll look21:34
Sc0rpius14896 is the build you're using?21:34
lardmananyone have any experience with DBus marshalling under Qt?21:34
Sc0rpiusbecause that one with the Linksys WRT54G2 drops the connection after a while for a N900 with power saving mode21:34
sasquatchFirmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro21:35
Sc0rpiusbuild #?21:35
Sc0rpiusit should say the build number21:35
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Sc0rpiusthough jugding by the date it should be 1306421:35
sasquatchFirmware Version21:35
sasquatchDD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro - build 13064M VINT Eko21:35
Sc0rpiusyeah 1306421:35
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Sc0rpiuswell it doesn't work for me :(21:36
lardmanI'm suffering from dbus moaning that the method/slot doesn't match the signature of the method being called, apparently because it's looking inside one of the arguments (a variant list) and seeing that it contains strings21:36
Sc0rpiusN900 drops the connection after a while21:36
sasquatchi had problems with n800's powersaving wifi-mode...21:36
sasquatchbut none with n900 so far21:36
sasquatchmaybe i switched off n900's powersaving wifi option?21:37
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Sc0rpiusyou'd notice the battery drain21:37
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Sc0rpiusN900 with power-saving mode off it's like 3G, it'll only lasts a few hours21:37
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sasquatchpowersave is maximum says the GUI21:38
Sc0rpiusyou're so lucky :)21:39
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sasquatchbut now wifi-switcher stopped working21:44
sasquatch<giant> *sigh* </giant>21:45
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sasquatchstrange... deinstall/reinstall wifi-switcher and it is fine again21:48
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trumeeanybody know if TLS works with sip in N900?22:09
scoobertronis it possible to hide the icon when queen beecon snippets update.  I have one which changes as I switch to the desktop, and the icon always appears for a second.  I can't find the option in the gui.22:10
trumeei dont see the option of specifying a certificate.22:10
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jacekowskitrumee: yes it did22:14
jacekowskitrumee: you don't have to22:14
jacekowskitrumee: TLS implementation in n900 has no support for client auth22:14
jacekowskitrumee: and for server auth you don't need cert22:14
trumeejacekowski: i am reading this article
jacekowskinot many implementations can do client auth22:14
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jacekowskithat's for server22:15
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trumeejacekowski: i have produced the ca.crt file and n900.pem files for the client22:15
jacekowskithere is no need for that on client22:16
trumeejacekowski: in that article 'Blink' softclient needs to have ca.crt and malcolm.pem22:16
trumeejacekowski: so what do i need to copy over to N900?22:16
jacekowskiyou don't have to22:16
jacekowskiit's only if client can auth itself to server using them22:16
jacekowskin900 can't do that22:17
trumeejacekowski: right. so i dont have to copy anything to N900. so what is the next step?22:17
jacekowskienable encryption in settings22:17
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trumeejacekowski: You mean specify TLS in transport?22:18
trumeejacekowski: ok, done22:18
jacekowskiand that's all22:18
jacekowskiif server supports it then it will work22:18
jacekowskiif not then it won't22:18
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trumeejacekowski: nope, it doesnt register22:21
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trumeejacekowski: guess only way to get encrypted voip is using skype :(22:23
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peterbjornxzis there any N900 vm22:45
peterbjornxzlike the n810 for QEMU22:45
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bjv1anyone familiar with getting a Window for a HildonDesktop StatusMenuItem? in fremantle,23:01
bjv1if i pop a gtk.Dialog open it's system modal but ... under the statusmenu?23:03
bjv1yet the statusmenu is locked out23:04
bjv1opening the powerbutton menu, then closing the pb menu reveals the Dialog running like expected23:05
peterbjornxzhow "bad" is reflashing rootfs over and over while debugging a custom FW23:06
bjv1i would not expect trouble from tens to hundreds of flashes.23:07
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bjv1but just guessing.23:07
* ShadowJK would guess 10,000 write endurance minimum23:08
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peterbjornxzok , so a couple of non-FS flashes wont matter, factoring in regular r/w operations too?23:37
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