| DocScrutinizer51 | more N900 at CCCamp than I thought got sold ;-) | 00:01 |
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| Sicelo | SpeedEvil: what do u mean at http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_Power_management#Avoidable when you say "Keeping audio active when idle. Pulseaudio can use a large amount of power in some cases, playing 'silence'." | 00:02 |
| Sicelo | how can that be avoided? | 00:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Stoppig the audio stream, not playing 'null' | 00:03 |
| SpeedEvil | 044631250 Neil Hancock The Wilderness of four-2 | 00:04 |
| SpeedEvil | argh | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | when Im got a SIM for local camp GSM, the guy at POC desk who sold it to me asked me if there's already new firmware for N950 he would get his next day | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Sicelo: close audio device/pipe/process on idle/silent | 00:05 |
| Sicelo | thanks :) | 00:05 |
| Sicelo | is it too bad an idea to use the device with bme stopped? | 00:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | Sicelo: It will cause unexpected reboots | 00:09 |
| SpeedEvil | And the modem to stop working unexpectedly | 00:10 |
| Itschue_alt | hi is extended call log the only way to view the call duration time? | 00:11 |
| peterbjornxz | docscrutinizer do you have any info on the emmc image format | 00:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | sorry no | 00:16 |
| Itschue_alt | ? | 00:17 |
| Sicelo | thanks for help. see y'all laters | 00:20 |
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| peterbjornxz | docscrutinizer, is there any info on FIASCO images then? | 00:27 |
| peterbjornxz | ~FIASCO | 00:28 |
| infobot | L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ | 00:28 |
| peterbjornxz | ~fiasco | 00:28 |
| infobot | L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ | 00:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | wazzup? | 00:40 |
| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer51: I wrote a cli client for youtube. | 00:41 |
| Shapeshifter | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1069359 | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Shapeshifter: cool | 00:44 |
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| peterbjornxz | im making progress on reverse engineering the flasher so i can write a FIASCO/eMMC format image creator tool | 01:34 |
| peterbjornxz | :) | 01:34 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Um, Firefox 6? | 02:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Wasn't 5 out, like, 3 months ago? | 02:10 |
| fizzie | They have that new "rapid-release" cycle going on. | 02:11 |
| javispedro | what you say! | 02:11 |
| javispedro | they're at 12 already. | 02:11 |
| SpeedEvil | 14 | 02:11 |
| Hurrian | using firefox? y u no use nightly | 02:11 |
| * javispedro has decided to keep 3.6 until they get sane again | 02:11 | |
| zash | Can't they just stfu and use the 'buntu versioning scheme (year.month) | 02:12 |
| fizzie | Six weeks per release or something-such. After a decade or so they'll hit Firefox 100. | 02:12 |
| kerio | zash: they will start doing that from version 11 | 02:12 |
| kerio | >:D | 02:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's silly. | 02:12 |
| kerio | well, version 12 probably | 02:12 |
| fizzie | One presumes they were just jealous of Chrome's bigger numbers. | 02:13 |
| zash | BIGGER IS BETTER | 02:13 |
| zash | Why don't they just release Firefox 2000 already | 02:13 |
| zash | and then +=1000 that | 02:13 |
| javispedro | well someone thought they ought to do something or they would be quickly surpassed by chrome in quota | 02:13 |
| zash | until it's OVER 9000!!! | 02:13 |
| javispedro | it's funny cause at least for me it's actually doing the opposite. | 02:14 |
| javispedro | (and I'm a chrome hater) | 02:14 |
| Hurrian | javispedro, 3.6 is slower than 4.0 | 02:14 |
| javispedro | so what | 02:15 |
| Hurrian | disable tabs on top | 02:15 |
| Hurrian | pretty much the same | 02:15 |
| javispedro | the only pages that are javascript constrainedand I usually visit are: a local TV guide and engadget. The local TV guide took like 10 seconds to load in Firefox1 and takes 8 seconds to load in Firefox3 despite all the performance crazy according to benchmarks | 02:16 |
| javispedro | and Engadget will always use all available CPU time no matter the performance, so no big deal. | 02:16 |
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| flailingmonkey | javispedro: too true :p | 02:16 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, I have a local site that'll make you feel better | 02:17 |
| MohammadAG | http://panet.co.il | 02:17 |
| MohammadAG | 5 seconds on microB and the N900's a goner | 02:17 |
| javispedro | god. | 02:18 |
| javispedro | also, Firefox4 doesn't support my extensions. and I really mean mine. | 02:19 |
| javispedro | <--- lazy bastard. | 02:19 |
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| peterbjornxz | dammit | 02:40 |
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| peterbjornxz | this function in flasher is confusing as hell | 02:41 |
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| peterbjornxz | anyone got any info on nokia's image format (FIASCO/eMMC the format with header 0xB4) | 02:43 |
| peterbjornxz | *magic 0xb4 | 02:44 |
| Hurrian | peter, flasher -F -u | 02:44 |
| peterbjornxz | no, i want to pack a eMMC image for the flasher | 02:44 |
| Hurrian | fiasco-gen? | 02:44 |
| peterbjornxz | thanks | 02:45 |
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| peterbjornxz | is the mmc image solely the ext3 part | 03:03 |
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| peterbjornxz | or how does this work | 03:03 |
| Hurrian | nope | 03:03 |
| Hurrian | it contains p1 mydocs p2 ext3 p3 swap | 03:03 |
| peterbjornxz | ok, then how is it only 250mb | 03:03 |
| Hurrian | sparse file | 03:04 |
| Hurrian | p2 is mostly empty | 03:04 |
| Hurrian | maemo ubifs moves files to p2 on first boot | 03:04 |
| peterbjornxz | ok, then how do i create a new one from scratch | 03:04 |
| Hurrian | it's hard | 03:05 |
| Hurrian | well, it's hard for emmc | 03:05 |
| Hurrian | since you dont know exactly where the partitions start and end | 03:05 |
| Hurrian | and loopmount doesnt work well with sparse files | 03:06 |
| Hurrian | just reflash device and use backupmenu to fudge around with partitions | 03:06 |
| Hurrian | then back it all up, and store it as a backupmenu... backup. | 03:06 |
| Hurrian | btw don't mess with the partition order | 03:07 |
| Hurrian | p1 must be fat32, p2 must be ext3, p3 must be swap | 03:07 |
| Hurrian | unless you changed genfstab.awk and rcS-late | 03:07 |
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| Hurrian | you are free to shrink all of them and make mmcblk0p4 a partition for nitdroid though | 03:08 |
| peterbjornxz | i dont want to install nitdroid | 03:08 |
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| Hurrian | k | 03:08 |
| peterbjornxz | i wanted to build a modified image on my dev box | 03:08 |
| Hurrian | ah | 03:08 |
| Hurrian | backupmenu would be easier to deal with | 03:08 |
| peterbjornxz | cause my n900 has a habit of rebooting when copying files or doing other IO/RAM intensive work | 03:09 |
| Hurrian | flasher is extremely cryptic, the way it sends images over the line to directly flash the device | 03:09 |
| Hurrian | peterbjornxz, look into improving N900's IO performance with swappolube | 03:09 |
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| Hurrian | blame ohmd and cfs for that | 03:10 |
| Hurrian | especially cfs | 03:10 |
| peterbjornxz | so theres no simple way for modifying a mmc image on pc | 03:10 |
| Hurrian | yes | 03:10 |
| Hurrian | too bad ohmd interferes with bfs, but without ohmd the phone's processes run wild | 03:11 |
| peterbjornxz | but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start | 03:11 |
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| peterbjornxz | but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start (resending cause my internet connection is acting up) | 03:17 |
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| Hurrian | there's a layout file | 03:21 |
| peterbjornxz | it doesnt contain offsets into the image | 03:21 |
| peterbjornxz | just sizes | 03:21 |
| Hurrian | iirc there's something in the image that you can edit by hand to change sizes | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | its the+ | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | layout file | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | bu | 03:22 |
| Hurrian | anyways, it's all cryptic to me, i never poked in maemo 5 flasher, i poked in maemo 6 flasher | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | but, from what ive seen | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | the layout file just defines the layout on-chip | 03:22 |
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| peterbjornxz | but says nothing about the image layout | 03:22 |
| peterbjornxz | but , how does maemo "6" do it | 03:28 |
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| Psi | do i need to install a windows driver to get the n900 to charge? | 08:10 |
| Psi | keeps saying there isnt enough power when i know the port can supply 500mA, so im assuming its a driver issue and it cant ask for high current mode | 08:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Put it in ass rage mode. | 08:12 |
| SpeedEvil | mass storage | 08:12 |
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| Psi | same thing | 08:13 |
| Psi | says not enough power | 08:13 |
| Psi | ow, now its charging | 08:13 |
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| Psi | anyone looking into the n900 10mW vs 100mW wifi to see if the chip can be told to run at more than 100mW ? | 08:15 |
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| slonopotamus | holy crap, i have my n800 running 2.6.38 | 10:07 |
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| gotten1 | n800 have also maemo? | 10:12 |
| slonopotamus | :/ | 10:12 |
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| lardman | morning | 11:59 |
| Itschue | morning | 11:59 |
| lardman | hi Itschue | 11:59 |
| Itschue | lardman didi you know if extended call log is the only way to view cal time duration? | 12:00 |
| lardman | you could probably access the db yourself directly | 12:01 |
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| Itschue | and i can see the call time duration than in the standard call manager? | 12:01 |
| lardman | no | 12:02 |
| lardman | I thought that was what extended call log did though? | 12:02 |
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| Itschue | so the ext call man is the only way | 12:03 |
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| lardman | that I know of anyway, I've never tried it mind you | 12:06 |
| lardman | Qt gurus: am trying to extract a QList<QVariantList> from a QSettings object. I can use the toList() fn, which gives me a QVariantList, but then I'm missing the inner list. How should I convert it to the correct type? | 12:07 |
| Itschue | i only know find the way with ext call log and the triggers.txt | 12:07 |
| lardman | there's also the template conversion method, e.g. value<T>(), but this means I have to do value<QList<QVariantList>>() which confuses the complier | 12:08 |
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| fizzie | Not a Qt person, but that should at least be written as "value<QList<QVariantList> >()" to avoid confusing the compiler with >>. | 12:13 |
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| slonopotamus | and that is weird | 12:17 |
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| lardman | fizzie: I'll try the space and see what it thinks, thanks | 12:21 |
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| fizzie | It's the "maximal munch" parsing rule, it has to treat ">>" as the shift-right token no matter how little sense it makes in the context. | 12:22 |
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| lardman | ok that seems to have fixed that little issue, now I need to persuade QSettings that it does want to save my QList<QVariantList> elsewhere... :) | 12:25 |
| lardman | thanks for the tip fizzie | 12:25 |
| lardman | I wonder if I should just cast the whole lot to a QVariant to save and read it, then cast it back to my double list once it's out of the QSettings object | 12:26 |
| villager | it's one of the annoying consequences of C++ overloading < > as a type of brackets in addition to being operators... but I guess there weren't a lot of alternatives left in ascii | 12:31 |
| lardman | I guess a more intelligent parser might be able to work out the context, but anyway not such a big problem giving a hint in the form of a few spaces | 12:32 |
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| * lardman settles for using a QSettings array, to undwind one of the QLists | 12:38 | |
| lardman | s/undwind/unwind | 12:38 |
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| godtrunks | hy i have a problem with my n900 | 14:03 |
| godtrunks | it wont start | 14:03 |
| godtrunks | what shou i do? | 14:03 |
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| godtrunks | what shou di do? | 14:03 |
| godtrunks | what shoud i do? | 14:03 |
| godtrunks | my charging led is not working as well | 14:04 |
| godtrunks | i try tu turn on the phone | 14:04 |
| godtrunks | but nothing | 14:04 |
| godtrunks | i try to turn on the phone | 14:04 |
| godtrunks | but nothing | 14:04 |
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| godtrunks | and if i unplug the battery while is at charging the led is orange.and stay orange while is charging | 14:05 |
| godtrunks | any ideeas? | 14:05 |
| robbiethe1st | Check forums | 14:06 |
| godtrunks | or shoud i go with the phone at warranty | 14:06 |
| godtrunks | i think is a hardware problem with it | 14:06 |
| robbiethe1st | You'll never get a N900 back | 14:07 |
| robbiethe1st | They've stopped replacing them with N900s. | 14:07 |
| robbiethe1st | You'd get an E7 or N8, depending on how you ask | 14:07 |
| godtrunks | i still have warranty | 14:07 |
| robbiethe1st | Nokia says they don't have any more replacement N900s | 14:07 |
| godtrunks | but why? | 14:08 |
| robbiethe1st | Ask them. | 14:08 |
| godtrunks | i pay for n900 | 14:08 |
| godtrunks | not for n8 or e 7 | 14:08 |
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| robbiethe1st | Doesn't mean they can fix it, or have another device to replace it with. So they'll give you a comparable one, in terms of cost. | 14:08 |
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| robbiethe1st | So you'd be better off checking forums, seeing if flashing will fix it... and if not, either trying to sell it on ebay and buy another, or getting it replaced with a 'lesser' N8, sell that... | 14:09 |
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| godtrunks | the phone will not enter in update mode | 14:09 |
| robbiethe1st | Maby the battery's dead? | 14:10 |
| robbiethe1st | ask on forums | 14:10 |
| godtrunks | no | 14:10 |
| godtrunks | it works fine untill last night | 14:10 |
| godtrunks | this morning when i take the phone from charging the phone will not turn on.. | 14:10 |
| robbiethe1st | So... Post a topic on the forums detailing the problem, and explaining what you've tried, exactly | 14:11 |
| godtrunks | is a hardware problme | 14:12 |
| godtrunks | is a hardware problem | 14:12 |
| robbiethe1st | So? I can't help you | 14:12 |
| robbiethe1st | Try taking it to a local repair shop? | 14:12 |
| godtrunks | so if i'm lucky the replace my phone with another n900 | 14:12 |
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| robbiethe1st | If you send it off to Nokia support, I can *guarantee* you you will not get a N900 back. | 14:13 |
| godtrunks | if not they will give me a brand new nokia N8 or a nokia E7? | 14:13 |
| robbiethe1st | Apparently | 14:13 |
| godtrunks | fu** | 14:13 |
| godtrunks | but in june the change my phone at warranty | 14:14 |
| robbiethe1st | Ask others who've done it recently | 14:14 |
| godtrunks | i was lucky then i think.. | 14:14 |
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| robbiethe1st | Could have been, yes | 14:14 |
| godtrunks | k. | 14:15 |
| godtrunks | thx for advice | 14:15 |
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| godtrunks | but i think i will be lucky | 14:15 |
| godtrunks | for the last time | 14:15 |
| godtrunks | if not | 14:16 |
| godtrunks | what phone u recomand me? | 14:16 |
| godtrunks | n8 or e7? | 14:16 |
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| robbiethe1st | I'd probably go with the N8, but you should really check Ebay and see what each is selling for | 14:16 |
| robbiethe1st | find the one that will sell for the most, and when you get it, sell it *brand new* for as much as possible, buy another used N900 | 14:16 |
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| godtrunks | oke :)) | 14:17 |
| godtrunks | thx | 14:17 |
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| godtrunks | but nobody from ebay who't send items to romania | 14:19 |
| godtrunks | ::||| | 14:19 |
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| godtrunks | but nobody from ebay won't send items to romania | 14:19 |
| godtrunks | :( | 14:20 |
| robbiethe1st | I'm sure some will | 14:20 |
| robbiethe1st | It's not on the 'shit list' like some countries are | 14:20 |
| godtrunks | yes i know | 14:20 |
| godtrunks | i have to go back to uk | 14:20 |
| godtrunks | :)) | 14:20 |
| godtrunks | to do that | 14:20 |
| robbiethe1st | Makes sense | 14:20 |
| robbiethe1st | I'd make a post on the forums first. | 14:21 |
| robbiethe1st | see if anyone has any ideas you can try first, just incase | 14:21 |
| godtrunks | i think is from the charger | 14:21 |
| godtrunks | overvoltage to the phone | 14:21 |
| robbiethe1st | No, I doubt it. The phone will handle up to 20V on the USB port | 14:22 |
| godtrunks | the phone wor'k perfect untill last night | 14:22 |
| robbiethe1st | Maby the battery fried internally? | 14:22 |
| godtrunks | if the batery is frief | 14:23 |
| godtrunks | the phone is not working? | 14:23 |
| godtrunks | if the batery is fried | 14:23 |
| robbiethe1st | Batteries *can* fail without warning | 14:23 |
| robbiethe1st | It's got a protection chip in there that could simply have died | 14:24 |
| robbiethe1st | But, first, POST A TOPIC | 14:24 |
| robbiethe1st | Explain everything, see if anyone else had the same problem | 14:24 |
| Dibblah_ | Eh? | 14:24 |
| Dibblah_ | As far as I've seen, the only protection is some really tiny ESD clamping diodes. | 14:25 |
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| Dibblah_ | ... And a fuse. | 14:25 |
| robbiethe1st | For the charger? No. Look at the datasheet for the charging chip | 14:25 |
| Dibblah_ | Doesn't matter. | 14:25 |
| robbiethe1st | It'll shut down charging if the input goes over ~6v, but it can handle 20V | 14:25 |
| Dibblah_ | The VUSB also connects to other things than the charging chip. | 14:26 |
| robbiethe1st | ...and I know it can. I put 12V into it at one point, and mine's still working | 14:26 |
| Dibblah_ | Now that is interesting. | 14:26 |
| godtrunks | no | 14:26 |
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| godtrunks | is not entering even in update mode | 14:26 |
| godtrunks | i tryed now with another battery | 14:26 |
| godtrunks | but nothing | 14:26 |
| robbiethe1st | godtrunks: when you press the on switch, what happens? | 14:27 |
| robbiethe1st | Absolutely nothing, or does the screen turn on for a second? | 14:27 |
| godtrunks | nothing | 14:27 |
| godtrunks | nothing | 14:27 |
| robbiethe1st | Hm. Unplug it, take the battery out | 14:27 |
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| robbiethe1st | Leave the battery out for about an hour, then try | 14:27 |
| godtrunks | if i leave the battery out | 14:27 |
| godtrunks | and the phone is pluged to the usb port to the computer the led turns on | 14:28 |
| godtrunks | have orange color | 14:28 |
| godtrunks | and stay on | 14:28 |
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| robbiethe1st | Yes. that's the charging chip going into 'emergency charge | 14:28 |
| robbiethe1st | ' mode | 14:28 |
| robbiethe1st | Which means your charging chip's still working at least | 14:28 |
| godtrunks | and if i put the battery the led is still orange | 14:28 |
| robbiethe1st | It won't start up, though, without the battery working | 14:29 |
| godtrunks | but not blinking | 14:29 |
| robbiethe1st | Yes. That's called 'emergency charge' mode. | 14:29 |
| godtrunks | stay on all the time | 14:29 |
| robbiethe1st | It will do that for an hour or so | 14:29 |
| godtrunks | oke | 14:29 |
| godtrunks | i will leave the phone without battery one hour | 14:30 |
| robbiethe1st | But, that means that there may be something wrong with the battery to rest of device area | 14:30 |
| godtrunks | i have 2 batteryes | 14:30 |
| godtrunks | i will try with bouth after one hour | 14:30 |
| robbiethe1st | k | 14:30 |
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| kerio | have i already stated that i think that not having a hardware charging mode is stupid? | 14:40 |
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| Hurrian | hmm | 14:42 |
| Hurrian | kernel-module-cifs isn't working on power48 | 14:42 |
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| Hurrian | wait, it works, blame windows. | 14:52 |
| godtrunks | hurrian | 14:52 |
| Hurrian | yeah? | 14:53 |
| godtrunks | if the charging module is not working | 14:53 |
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| godtrunks | the phone | 14:53 |
| godtrunks | shoud start | 14:53 |
| godtrunks | but my isn't start | 14:53 |
| Hurrian | is the battery charged? | 14:53 |
| godtrunks | yes | 14:53 |
| Hurrian | odd | 14:54 |
| godtrunks | i took another battery from another phone | 14:54 |
| Hurrian | how did you whack your TWL4030/BQ24150? | 14:54 |
| godtrunks | what? | 14:54 |
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| Hurrian | how did the charging chip break? | 14:55 |
| godtrunks | last night my phone worked perfecty | 14:55 |
| godtrunks | i leave it at charging | 14:55 |
| godtrunks | over night | 14:55 |
| godtrunks | and this morning the phone is not turning on | 14:55 |
| Hurrian | odd, that happens an awful lot to the n900s | 14:56 |
| Hurrian | anyways | 14:56 |
| Hurrian | tried pulling the battery for a few minutes? | 14:56 |
| godtrunks | yes | 14:57 |
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| godtrunks | they told me to leave it without battery for 1 hr | 14:57 |
| Hurrian | how about trying to connect it to PC usb? | 14:58 |
| cehteh | you saied you have 2 batteries .. same problem with both batteries? .. do you know if one was charged fopr sure? | 14:58 |
| godtrunks | i try to usb | 14:58 |
| godtrunks | but | 14:58 |
| godtrunks | is not entering in software update mode | 14:58 |
| Hurrian | cold flash then | 14:58 |
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| Hurrian | did the nokia logo show up? | 14:59 |
| cehteh | flashing with unreliable power ... looks dangerous | 14:59 |
| godtrunks | nothing | 14:59 |
| cehteh | well wont even work then | 14:59 |
| godtrunks | i put the phone in usb | 14:59 |
| godtrunks | but thonthind | 14:59 |
| godtrunks | but nothing | 14:59 |
| cehteh | usb connector is not loose? | 14:59 |
| godtrunks | is working perfectly | 15:00 |
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| Hurrian | ~cold-flashing | 15:01 |
| godtrunks | how? | 15:01 |
| Hurrian | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing | 15:01 |
| godtrunks | but i lose all my data? | 15:01 |
| Hurrian | nope | 15:01 |
| Hurrian | flasher-3.5 -F image.bin --flash-only=nolo -f | 15:02 |
| Hurrian | --flash-only=nolo | 15:02 |
| godtrunks | where can i get the image? | 15:02 |
| godtrunks | or i use maemo flasher | 15:02 |
| Hurrian | image.bin = rootfs | 15:02 |
| godtrunks | where can i get the image | 15:03 |
| godtrunks | ? | 15:03 |
| Hurrian | ~images | 15:03 |
| godtrunks | fwom where? | 15:03 |
| Hurrian | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php | 15:03 |
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| Hurrian | don't tell me you haven't reflashed before | 15:04 |
| cehteh | btw is there a tool to generate new flash images? | 15:04 |
| Hurrian | fiasco-gen | 15:04 |
| Hurrian | it just repacks the directory structure though | 15:05 |
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| cehteh | i should investigate that .. making an private customized image | 15:05 |
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| Hurrian | and i've only seen a UBIFS modification, never seen anyone modifying emmc because of the sparse file | 15:05 |
| Hurrian | NOTE: | 15:06 |
| cehteh | mhm | 15:06 |
| cehteh | well not urgend | 15:06 |
| godtrunks | oke | 15:06 |
| godtrunks | wicj image shoud i use? | 15:06 |
| godtrunks | wich image shoud i use? | 15:06 |
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| Hurrian | RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin | 15:06 |
| cehteh | its just pita since reflashing stock images break my device because of ext4 ... getting it work needs some more steps | 15:06 |
| Hurrian | cehteh, same here | 15:06 |
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| godtrunks | oke guys | 15:07 |
| cehteh | generating a image with pk and other things installed/configured would be nice | 15:07 |
| godtrunks | not | 15:07 |
| godtrunks | now | 15:07 |
| Hurrian | ext4 is really nice though | 15:07 |
| godtrunks | how i know wich one shoud i chose? | 15:07 |
| godtrunks | what image? | 15:07 |
| Hurrian | godtrunks, you are given a list | 15:07 |
| Hurrian | PR1.3 Global | 15:07 |
| cehteh | godtrunks: well we could tell you, but i urge you to RTFM anyways ... | 15:08 |
| Hurrian | hmm, wonder if we should make everyone on TMO use PR1.3 Global when reflashing | 15:08 |
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| cehteh | prolly not, there are some reasons for localized firmware | 15:09 |
| Hurrian | cehteh, seen the amount of people on TMO who are unable to reflash? | 15:09 |
| Hurrian | it's astounding | 15:09 |
| cehteh | yes anD? | 15:09 |
| godtrunks | ok and how i make a cold flash | 15:09 |
| cehteh | normally reflashing is not for causual users | 15:09 |
| Hurrian | godtrunks, read wiki page | 15:09 |
| cehteh | if you dont have a clue then dont try | 15:09 |
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| Hurrian | you actually dont even need to press U to kick it into reflash mode | 15:09 |
| cehteh | i gtg ..cu | 15:09 |
| godtrunks | is not working flash mode | 15:10 |
| Hurrian | @cehteh: kernel-power is rapidly reaching "needed by casuals" | 15:10 |
| Hurrian | because kernel-pr13 is teh suck | 15:10 |
| Hurrian | godtrunks, what do you mean | 15:10 |
| Hurrian | you need to install flasher too by the way | 15:11 |
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| godtrunks | if i put the usb cable and i press u | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | the phone is not doing nothing | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | iven the computer | 15:11 |
| Hurrian | noooooope | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | is something the phone is not pluget is | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | is something the phone is not pluget in | 15:11 |
| Hurrian | you hold down U, plug in the phone, then release U | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | yes i know | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | nothing happend | 15:11 |
| godtrunks | if i do that | 15:11 |
| Hurrian | try other USB ports | 15:12 |
| Hurrian | wait | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | i tried | 15:12 |
| Hurrian | does the phone show the nokia logo when you plug it in? | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | nothing happend | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | nothing | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | the led is not turning orange | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | if i take the battery out the orange led turns on and remain on | 15:12 |
| godtrunks | is not blinking | 15:12 |
| Hurrian | of course it doesn't, it doesnt get far enough into maemo to say ACT_DEAD | 15:13 |
| godtrunks | if i put the battery the led remains on | 15:13 |
| godtrunks | not charginf | 15:13 |
| Hurrian | did you try meego? | 15:13 |
| godtrunks | no | 15:13 |
| Hurrian | hmm, now this is really odd | 15:13 |
| godtrunks | i thing it was a overpower for the charger | 15:13 |
| godtrunks | from my nokia charger | 15:13 |
| Hurrian | the official nokia one? | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | because untill last night the phone works perfect | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | yes | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | official nokia one | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | was an electric storm | 15:14 |
| Hurrian | ah | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | i don't know | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | but in the morning the phone was not turning on | 15:14 |
| godtrunks | what shoud i do? | 15:15 |
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| godtrunks | is the procesir dead? | 15:15 |
| godtrunks | is the procesor dead? | 15:15 |
| godtrunks | or something? | 15:15 |
| godtrunks | shoud i go to warranty? | 15:15 |
| Hurrian | well, some part of the board is burnt, and you need to have someone poke around to check which part it is | 15:15 |
| Hurrian | don't need to go to warranty, you might get some POS symbian smartphone | 15:16 |
| Hurrian | electronics repair store would be fine | 15:16 |
| godtrunks | but i will lose my warranty | 15:16 |
| * Hurrian notes down: get voltage regulator for N900 | 15:16 | |
| Hurrian | tell nokia care then not to replace it if they cant fix it | 15:17 |
| Hurrian | give it back as is, then take it to a local shop | 15:17 |
| godtrunks | oke | 15:18 |
| jiero | Do anybody use Ext4 instead of Ext3 on N900? | 15:18 |
| godtrunks | if not they will replace it with N8 or E7? | 15:18 |
| Hurrian | jiero: me! | 15:18 |
| Hurrian | godtrunks, it's very likely | 15:18 |
| godtrunks | ok.. | 15:19 |
| godtrunks | thx for advice | 15:19 |
| Hurrian | jiero, if i can get maemo 5 sdk to not break while installing, i'd push out eMMC and SD raid0 modules + tutorial ;) | 15:19 |
| Hurrian | it's easy to dump insmod and mdadm commands in rcS-late | 15:20 |
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| jiero | Hurrian: wow, how do they raid0... | 15:24 |
| jiero | :S | 15:24 |
| jiero | I want to see | 15:24 |
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| Dibblah | A local shop is somewhat unlikely to do board-level repairs on anything. | 15:30 |
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| godtrunks | hi | 17:54 |
| godtrunks | one hour passed | 17:54 |
| godtrunks | i put my battery back but the phone is still not working | 17:54 |
| godtrunks | i leave it more than one hour but nothink | 17:54 |
| godtrunks | the phone still not turning one | 17:55 |
| godtrunks | any ideeas? | 17:55 |
| e-yes | charging subsystem is crapy in n900 | 17:55 |
| e-yes | no idea | 17:55 |
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| godtrunks | ok | 17:56 |
| e-yes | try to swith it on, then after few seconds (when maemo starts loading) plug into wall charger | 17:56 |
| godtrunks | i can't | 17:56 |
| e-yes | fighted act_dead once in past | 17:56 |
| godtrunks | the phone is not turning on at all | 17:56 |
| godtrunks | software update is not working either | 17:57 |
| godtrunks | software update mode | 17:57 |
| godtrunks | is not working either | 17:57 |
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| godtrunks | any ideeas? | 18:02 |
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| giardia | somebody know how to have sound alerts in Pidgin? i tried everything | 18:23 |
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| whatwhat | why don't docx attachments show up in the mail program? | 18:37 |
| whatwhat | I don't care about opening them - I'd just like to know if an email has an attachment | 18:38 |
| ShadowJK | works for me | 18:42 |
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| Jonne | i have an issue with my jabber accounts (gmail and facebook) | 18:43 |
| Jonne | i changed the passwords for both, and now they won't connect any more | 18:43 |
| Jonne | i get 'network error' not 'authentication failed' | 18:44 |
| Jonne | i tried deleting the accounts, but now i can't even add them again | 18:44 |
| Jonne | anyone know what my issue could be? | 18:45 |
| Jonne | can i find log files for empathy anywhere? | 18:45 |
| Jonne | skype still works perfectly | 18:46 |
| Sicelo | giardia: Tools > Preferences > Sounds | 18:48 |
| Sicelo | Jonne: what do u mean 'can't even add them again'? | 18:50 |
| Sc0rpius | that happened to me with the Skype account | 18:51 |
| Jonne | well, i fill in the info, click 'sign in', and the dialog closes without signing itn | 18:51 |
| Sc0rpius | and I had to delete the whole .skype directory so I could add it again | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | exactly the same thing | 18:52 |
| Jonne | they show up as 'not signed in' | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | dialog closing without signing in the first time | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | that exactly happened to me, but with the skype account | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | because I changed the password | 18:52 |
| Jonne | so where are the jabber/gtalk/fb config files? | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | good question | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | in some .somedir | 18:53 |
| Sc0rpius | my N900 is in the other room so I can't check :P | 18:53 |
| Jonne | .purple is pidgin, right? | 18:53 |
| Sc0rpius | yes | 18:53 |
| Sc0rpius | btw I think pidgin is better than the conversations thing | 18:53 |
| Sc0rpius | I just use Skype there | 18:54 |
| Sc0rpius | for all my IMs need: pidgin. | 18:54 |
| Jonne | i just like the integration of empathy | 18:54 |
| Sicelo | not empathy :) | 18:55 |
| Jonne | don't want to run a seperate app if empathy works most of the time | 18:55 |
| Jonne | *telepathy | 18:55 |
| Jonne | i just confuse them because i use empathy on ubuntu, which uses the same libs as maemo's im thing | 18:56 |
| Sicelo | u should also check the advanced settings on your accounts, especially ports.. conversations will sometimes change the port for no apparent reason | 18:57 |
| Jonne | i guess i'll look up the exact settings for gtalk | 18:58 |
| Jonne | the worst thing about im issues is that you're never sure if it's really serverside or not | 18:58 |
| Jonne | especially facebook has issues keeping im online | 18:59 |
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| Jonne | hmm, google seem to have hidden the proper settings somehow | 19:08 |
| Sicelo | which ones Jonne ? | 19:10 |
| Sicelo | you can try setting stun server: talk.google.com, stun port : 3478 | 19:11 |
| Jonne | the general jabber settings, like the ones you just gave me :p | 19:11 |
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| Jonne | didn't work | 19:12 |
| Jonne | ffs | 19:13 |
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| giardia | somebody know what is the right folder for pidgin default sounds? | 19:18 |
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| * giardia is wondering why no sound alerts in pidgin, even the options are ok. i tried also to install sound themes and even the command aplay %s but still silent. any suggenstions? maybe an issue with sound folder? | 20:07 | |
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| Sc0rpius | are you in General profile?¿ | 20:11 |
| Sc0rpius | I don't really use sounds alert in pingin | 20:12 |
| Sicelo | thought to ask him that | 20:12 |
| Sc0rpius | but vibration alerts through pidgin-notify | 20:12 |
| Sc0rpius | that I ported to N900 :P | 20:12 |
| Sicelo | also, setting Method to anything other than Automatic may have an influence | 20:13 |
| Sicelo | \0/ Sc0rpius | 20:13 |
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| giardia | i will try if reinstalling will solve | 20:18 |
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| giardia | i don't have "anything" option in Method, but command,no sounds,alsa,esd,automatic,console beep | 20:22 |
| Sicelo | lol :) i meant u should leave it at Automatic | 20:22 |
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| giardia | ah, ok. yeah is in automatic. | 20:26 |
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| giardia | can you check if u have the default sounds in /usr/share/sounds/pidgin ? | 20:27 |
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| Sicelo | /usr/share/sounds/purple | 20:29 |
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| giardia | thanks...i will try this folder | 20:30 |
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| Sc0rpius | does anyone here use dd-wrt? | 21:15 |
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| peterbjornxz | wrong chatroom, this is the Maemo room | 21:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Not quite, if you're using it with maemo. | 21:26 |
| peterbjornxz | ? | 21:26 |
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| peterbjornxz | like , ddwrt router + maemo device | 21:26 |
| tank-man | i wear shoes while using my maemo device too | 21:27 |
| peterbjornxz | i REALLY need to build one of those serial lvl converters | 21:27 |
| peterbjornxz | i got pretty far on my custom FW but now its crashing after X gets started | 21:28 |
| peterbjornxz | so fbcon is useless | 21:28 |
| Sc0rpius | well | 21:32 |
| Sc0rpius | I was gonna ask if you hit a bug with the N900 using dd-wrt | 21:32 |
| Sc0rpius | my N900 doesn't work with power saving mode in dd-wrt but works fine with stock Linksys firmware | 21:33 |
| Sc0rpius | I was just wondering if anyone else hit the bug | 21:33 |
| sasquatch | _o/ dd-wrt-micro on siemens se505v2 as accesspoint and no problem connecting with n900 so far | 21:33 |
| Sc0rpius | maybe your router has a high build | 21:33 |
| Sc0rpius | I mean a newer build | 21:34 |
| sasquatch | i'll look | 21:34 |
| Sc0rpius | 14896 is the build you're using? | 21:34 |
| lardman | anyone have any experience with DBus marshalling under Qt? | 21:34 |
| Sc0rpius | because that one with the Linksys WRT54G2 drops the connection after a while for a N900 with power saving mode | 21:34 |
| sasquatch | Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro | 21:35 |
| Sc0rpius | build #? | 21:35 |
| Sc0rpius | it should say the build number | 21:35 |
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| Sc0rpius | though jugding by the date it should be 13064 | 21:35 |
| sasquatch | Firmware Version | 21:35 |
| sasquatch | DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/02/09) micro - build 13064M VINT Eko | 21:35 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah 13064 | 21:35 |
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| Sc0rpius | well it doesn't work for me :( | 21:36 |
| lardman | I'm suffering from dbus moaning that the method/slot doesn't match the signature of the method being called, apparently because it's looking inside one of the arguments (a variant list) and seeing that it contains strings | 21:36 |
| Sc0rpius | N900 drops the connection after a while | 21:36 |
| sasquatch | i had problems with n800's powersaving wifi-mode... | 21:36 |
| sasquatch | but none with n900 so far | 21:36 |
| sasquatch | maybe i switched off n900's powersaving wifi option? | 21:37 |
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| sasquatch | looking... | 21:37 |
| Sc0rpius | you'd notice the battery drain | 21:37 |
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| Sc0rpius | N900 with power-saving mode off it's like 3G, it'll only lasts a few hours | 21:37 |
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| sasquatch | powersave is maximum says the GUI | 21:38 |
| Sc0rpius | you're so lucky :) | 21:39 |
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| sasquatch | but now wifi-switcher stopped working | 21:44 |
| sasquatch | :.\ | 21:44 |
| sasquatch | <giant> *sigh* </giant> | 21:45 |
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| sasquatch | strange... deinstall/reinstall wifi-switcher and it is fine again | 21:48 |
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| trumee | anybody know if TLS works with sip in N900? | 22:09 |
| scoobertron | is it possible to hide the icon when queen beecon snippets update. I have one which changes as I switch to the desktop, and the icon always appears for a second. I can't find the option in the gui. | 22:10 |
| trumee | i dont see the option of specifying a certificate. | 22:10 |
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| jacekowski | trumee: yes it did | 22:14 |
| jacekowski | trumee: you don't have to | 22:14 |
| jacekowski | trumee: TLS implementation in n900 has no support for client auth | 22:14 |
| jacekowski | trumee: and for server auth you don't need cert | 22:14 |
| trumee | jacekowski: i am reading this article https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Secure+Calling+Tutorial | 22:14 |
| jacekowski | not many implementations can do client auth | 22:14 |
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| jacekowski | that's for server | 22:15 |
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| trumee | jacekowski: i have produced the ca.crt file and n900.pem files for the client | 22:15 |
| jacekowski | there is no need for that on client | 22:16 |
| trumee | jacekowski: in that article 'Blink' softclient needs to have ca.crt and malcolm.pem | 22:16 |
| trumee | jacekowski: so what do i need to copy over to N900? | 22:16 |
| jacekowski | you don't have to | 22:16 |
| jacekowski | it's only if client can auth itself to server using them | 22:16 |
| jacekowski | n900 can't do that | 22:17 |
| trumee | jacekowski: right. so i dont have to copy anything to N900. so what is the next step? | 22:17 |
| jacekowski | enable encryption in settings | 22:17 |
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| trumee | jacekowski: You mean specify TLS in transport? | 22:18 |
| jacekowski | yes | 22:18 |
| trumee | jacekowski: ok, done | 22:18 |
| jacekowski | and that's all | 22:18 |
| jacekowski | if server supports it then it will work | 22:18 |
| jacekowski | if not then it won't | 22:18 |
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| trumee | jacekowski: nope, it doesnt register | 22:21 |
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| trumee | jacekowski: guess only way to get encrypted voip is using skype :( | 22:23 |
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| peterbjornxz | is there any N900 vm | 22:45 |
| peterbjornxz | like the n810 for QEMU | 22:45 |
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| bjv1 | anyone familiar with getting a Window for a HildonDesktop StatusMenuItem? in fremantle, | 23:01 |
| bjv1 | if i pop a gtk.Dialog open it's system modal but ... under the statusmenu? | 23:03 |
| bjv1 | yet the statusmenu is locked out | 23:04 |
| bjv1 | opening the powerbutton menu, then closing the pb menu reveals the Dialog running like expected | 23:05 |
| peterbjornxz | how "bad" is reflashing rootfs over and over while debugging a custom FW | 23:06 |
| bjv1 | i would not expect trouble from tens to hundreds of flashes. | 23:07 |
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| bjv1 | but just guessing. | 23:07 |
| * ShadowJK would guess 10,000 write endurance minimum | 23:08 | |
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| peterbjornxz | ok , so a couple of non-FS flashes wont matter, factoring in regular r/w operations too? | 23:37 |
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