| GAN900 | Meets every Friday night in geneven's basement? | 00:01 |
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| Stskeeps | my n810 is showing meego with xfce4 without watchdogs turned off, who cares about the naysayers.. | 00:01 |
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| GAN900 | VNC! | 00:03 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 00:03 |
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| RevdKathy | Goodnight all! | 00:10 |
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| MohammadAG | night RevdKathy | 00:11 |
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| luke-jr | Stskeeps: again, what productive use can that be? :P | 00:13 |
| GAN900 | Stskeeps, clearly you're just VNCing into another machine. | 00:15 |
| Stskeeps | GAN900: pft | 00:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 00:15 |
| luke-jr | GAN900: that would be a step up from his xfce4 | 00:16 |
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| GAN900 | Stskeeps, so any visual "proof" you try to provide is suspect. :P | 00:16 |
| luke-jr | wireless networking begins to be useful... | 00:16 |
| luke-jr | no clue why p54spi doesn't seem to do anything tho | 00:16 |
| Stskeeps | is it enabled in he config? | 00:16 |
| luke-jr | there's not even an interface | 00:16 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: it is in mine | 00:16 |
| luke-jr | and the module is loaded | 00:17 |
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| luke-jr | quite frankly, I'm surprised BME works | 00:19 |
| luke-jr | I guess that's that big N8x0 patch tho | 00:19 |
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| Stskeeps | BME works on yours? | 00:19 |
| Stskeeps | odd, didn't on mine | 00:19 |
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| luke-jr | Stskeeps: I assume so, since it remained on overnight | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | chroot trick right? | 00:20 |
| luke-jr | doesn't BME need to work to run it once the battery dies? | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | ie, in initfs | 00:20 |
| luke-jr | chroot trick? | 00:20 |
| luke-jr | I boot to bootmenu initfs | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | true | 00:20 |
| luke-jr | also, I *did* need to disable some watchdog | 00:21 |
| luke-jr | OMAP or "lifeguard" | 00:21 |
| Stskeeps | retu's the culprit | 00:21 |
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| tybollt_ | stskeeps: will meego "fix" the optifying misstake? | 00:23 |
| Stskeeps | tybollt_: i answered that already | 00:23 |
| tybollt_ | d'oh, sorry | 00:24 |
| Stskeeps | 'yes, i bloody hope so, no 256mb nand involved' | 00:24 |
| tybollt_ | thanks, it had escaped my /lastlog ;-| | 00:25 |
| luke-jr | basically, that 256 MB NAND is now an oversized boot partition :P | 00:25 |
| tybollt_ | Stskeeps: that means you're using a !N900? | 00:25 |
| luke-jr | tybollt_: N810 has internal SD | 00:25 |
| Stskeeps | tybollt_: i use a n810 and a n900 | 00:26 |
| Stskeeps | and what luke-jr said | 00:26 |
| red | any good ebook reader apps on maemo? | 00:26 |
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| * luke-jr ponders if the internal SD can be upgraded practically | 00:26 | |
| * tybollt_ is confused now - sounds an awfull lot like they've learned from prior misstakes but ... I wasn't aware programmers did that... :-P | 00:27 | |
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| tybollt_ | Stskeeps, luke: good news indeed. | 00:28 |
| DrGrov | Hello | 00:28 |
| luke-jr | tybollt_: it doesn't really fix anything | 00:29 |
| luke-jr | just pretends there was never a problem more like | 00:29 |
| red | mmh | 00:30 |
| red | was only able to locate the gutenberg app for ebooks from app manager | 00:31 |
| red | is it the only one? | 00:31 |
| red | need to be able to read .lit books :) | 00:31 |
| luke-jr | or just convert them to PDF | 00:31 |
| red | maybe | 00:32 |
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| luke-jr | Stskeeps: retu is enabled | 00:39 |
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| GAN900 | red, you wont read them natively | 00:49 |
| GAN900 | Somebody compiled convert lit, though | 00:49 |
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| GAN900 | HTML works great in FBReader. | 00:49 |
| GAN900 | luke-jr, and sod off with your PDF ebooks. | 00:49 |
| GAN900 | PDF is the worst format ever for mobile reading. :P | 00:49 |
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| SpeedEvil | GAN900: Pretty much. | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Is clit in the repos? | 00:50 |
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| GAN900 | Last time I checked, no. | 00:51 |
| GAN900 | Sounds like a nice thing for SpeedEvil to fix. :P | 00:51 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: fwiw, I created a 140 MB dummy file on tmpfs without diskswap | 00:52 |
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| luke-jr | (it got to 140 MB before OOM killer went crazy) | 00:52 |
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| SpeedEvil | GAN900: ? | 00:53 |
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| Milhouse | clit??? | 00:59 |
| b-man | i _almost_ have a functional port of netbeans-6.0 for maemo :) | 00:59 |
| b-man | brb | 01:00 |
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| jd8 | Does any one know if it is possible to partition the n900 emmc and have it host a bootable linux distro? (So I cant boot linux on my laptop from the n900) | 01:02 |
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| GAN900 | SpeedEvil, uploading clit. | 01:03 |
| crashanddie | clit? | 01:03 |
| GAN900 | Milhouse, you highlight on that or something? :P | 01:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Convert Lit. | 01:04 |
| crashanddie | that is such a horrible name | 01:04 |
| SpeedEvil | It is a program to convert lit files into html | 01:04 |
| crashanddie | call it litc | 01:04 |
| SpeedEvil | You've just got a dirty mind. | 01:04 |
| crashanddie | that's like calling an [insert something] analyser and calling it "Anal" | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | i misinterpreted it too :P | 01:04 |
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| MohammadAG | oh god | 01:07 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, off topic is going way off topic on tmo :) | 01:07 |
| crashanddie | and you're telling me because? | 01:07 |
| Macer | haha. bones is funny.. "yeah but she said it as an anthropoligist so it sounded more sciency" | 01:07 |
| * MohammadAG thinks it should be closed | 01:07 | |
| MohammadAG | you were a previous mod, that fact will haunt you for the rest of your life crashanddie | 01:07 |
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| Milhouse | GAN900: Clit - just a slightly rude word in English, that is all. :) | 01:09 |
| GAN900 | Milhouse, no, it's a beautiful word you twat. :P | 01:10 |
| Milhouse | lol | 01:10 |
| Milhouse | See you next Tuesday!! | 01:10 |
| Macer | omg i ate a whole pizza and feel like a bloated pig | 01:13 |
| Macer | thank God i don't gain weight :) | 01:13 |
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| Macer | i've been 6'3" and 195 lbs for like 15 years | 01:13 |
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| GAN900 | Milhouse, what's Tuesday? | 01:15 |
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| Milhouse | It's an expression, not an invite - don't make me spell it out for you ;) | 01:15 |
| Milhouse | C...U... etc. :) | 01:16 |
| Milhouse | GAN: Apparently it may be "London slang" - fancy that. http://www.londonslang.com/riley/ | 01:16 |
| SpeedEvil | (10:47:14 PM) MohammadAG left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | err | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.urbandictionary.com/ | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | even | 01:17 |
| SpeedEvil | Lots of amusing terms. | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, ? | 01:18 |
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| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: accidental paste | 01:19 |
| GAN900 | Milhouse, mmm | 01:19 |
| MohammadAG | lies | 01:19 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 01:19 |
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| MohammadAG | swapping batteries | 01:24 |
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| tybollt_ | hrrm android ona iPhone | 01:25 |
| tybollt_ | so git me android ona n900 :) | 01:25 |
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| crashanddie | god I'm so friggin bored | 01:28 |
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| frals | i was well bored so i wrote a qwerty keyboard for vertsms :( | 01:31 |
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| * MohammadAG pushes frals's changes as V0.5 :P | 01:31 | |
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| GAN900 | tybollt_, Android sux | 01:37 |
| GAN900 | frals, have you pushed the PR1.2 fMMS anywhere yet? | 01:37 |
| frals | GAN900: its in extras ;o | 01:37 |
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| GAN900 | frals, how does it grab operator info? | 01:39 |
| frals | /etc/operator_settings, matching with MCC and MNC and operator_display_name | 01:39 |
| crashanddie | anyone know of companies that are looking for remote workers? | 01:39 |
| frals | the last part being wrong, ive realised :( | 01:40 |
| SpeedEvil | GAN900: http://xkcd.com/416/ | 01:40 |
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| GAN900 | crashanddie, Direct Sales, Inc.'s telemarketing department? | 01:40 |
| crashanddie | yeah, maybe not that | 01:41 |
| crashanddie | more like, interesting job, development, meh | 01:41 |
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| tybollt_ | GAN900: "PR1.2 fMMS"??? | 01:42 |
| tybollt_ | GAN900: you saying what I think you're saying there? | 01:42 |
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| * tybollt_ holds breath - please pat my back if I turn blue | 01:43 | |
| MohammadAG | tybollt_, yes, PR1.2 was released | 01:43 |
| * MohammadAG waits | 01:43 | |
| SpeedEvil | Where is PR1.3? | 01:44 |
| frals | :D | 01:44 |
| tybollt_ | seriously | 01:44 |
| tybollt_ | is fMMS slaited for inclusion upstream? | 01:44 |
| tybollt_ | slated... | 01:44 |
| tybollt_ | is what I was thinking | 01:44 |
| frals | not that im aware | 01:45 |
| tybollt_ | that'd be fairly "big" news where I come from | 01:45 |
| MohammadAG | N00_RX-71:~# uname | 01:45 |
| MohammadAG | Mac OS X | 01:45 |
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| * crashanddie pats tybollt_ on the back | 01:45 | |
| tybollt_ | or did GAN just mean a fMMS that is compatible w/ 1.2? | 01:45 |
| tybollt_ | crashanddie: :P | 01:45 |
| MohammadAG | tybollt_, there's a "New MMS" string in the locales | 01:45 |
| frals | tybollt_: thats what i was thinking ;) | 01:45 |
| MohammadAG | so... maybe they're keeping it as a surprise for frals | 01:46 |
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| cure` | :(( | 01:48 |
| cure` | waiting to reflash for weeks now | 01:49 |
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| crashanddie | GAN900: really, trying to think of other companies like canonical. Young and open-source oriented preferably. Ideas? | 01:52 |
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| SpeedEvil | crashanddie: Where are you again? | 01:55 |
| crashanddie | SpeedEvil: France now | 01:55 |
| * SpeedEvil forgot. | 01:55 | |
| SpeedEvil | Ah. | 01:55 |
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| SpeedEvil | If you'd asked that 2-3 years ago, I would have suggested CloudMade. | 01:56 |
| SpeedEvil | But they've kind of fallen over. | 01:56 |
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| crashanddie | so not a very good suggestion :P | 01:56 |
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| SpeedEvil | No. | 01:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Unless you've got a time machine. | 01:57 |
| crashanddie | hmm, I had to sell mine some time ago | 01:58 |
| johnsq | crashanddie: you could sell it and travel back, than you have two | 02:02 |
| crashanddie | then | 02:02 |
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| crashanddie | than = comparison, then = time marker, or event sequencer. | 02:04 |
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| crashanddie | johnsq: not that bloody hard, is it? | 02:08 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: strangely, I did a make clean and can't rebuild it ( | 02:09 |
| luke-jr | :( | 02:09 |
| johnsq | crashanddie: no. but there are much more pitfalls. | 02:09 |
| MohammadAG | oops | 02:09 |
| MohammadAG | sorry (you know who you are) | 02:10 |
| crashanddie | johnsq: bollocks | 02:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: (xorg.conf) ME??? EE here, not system maintenance | 02:13 |
| MohammadAG | when did I ask? wasn't that a day ago? :) | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | a year | 02:13 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG: it's the bad time of the month for DocScrutinizer | 02:13 |
| MohammadAG | time goes by so fast | 02:13 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG: his buffer is full | 02:14 |
| GAN900 | lol | 02:14 |
| GAN900 | Sorry, tybollt_. | 02:14 |
| MohammadAG | haha | 02:14 |
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| crashanddie | MohammadAG: buffer in french: memoire tampon (and well, we all know what tampon is). | 02:14 |
| MohammadAG | XD | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: RTFM! | 02:14 |
| FIQ | Write error: No space left on device | 02:14 |
| FIQ | Sounds good | 02:15 |
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| FIQ | ... or not | 02:15 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, ironic, since i ported man-db | 02:15 |
| MohammadAG | FIQ, it is good | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | man X | 02:15 |
| * MohammadAG waits for the Houston we have a problem. Powering off | 02:15 | |
| MohammadAG | that happened to me once btw | 02:15 |
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| GAN900 | Mmm . . . good Zinfandel. | 02:17 |
| MohammadAG | what just happened | 02:17 |
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| MohammadAG | /ban DocScrutinizer | 02:18 |
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| jerkface03 | hah | 02:19 |
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| * GAN900 sighs at SD69. | 02:24 | |
| * MohammadAG wonders what SD means in that word | 02:25 | |
| GAN900 | Sone dude on Talk. | 02:25 |
| GAN900 | So who knows. | 02:25 |
| MohammadAG | BS 2010 thread? | 02:27 |
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| MohammadAG | err, excuse the bad choice of acronyms x.x | 02:28 |
| luke-jr | lol | 02:29 |
| ShadowJK | GAN900, isn't that one of the community ssu dudes | 02:31 |
| ShadowJK | or maybe I've just seen him in those threads alot | 02:31 |
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| crashanddie | would it be possible to launch a specific command after connecting to a specific wifi ESSID? | 02:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | ShadowJK, yes, which is why he's also insane. | 02:46 |
| MohammadAG | daemon | 02:46 |
| MohammadAG | don't ask how | 02:46 |
| crashanddie | for example, in France, the ISP "Free" gives people the possibility to login to public hotspots of any other customer from the same ISP | 02:47 |
| javispedro | the icd2 way is a service provider API | 02:47 |
| crashanddie | though, as per usual, the first webpage you call requires a username/password login, then all ports are unlocked. | 02:47 |
| crashanddie | (you even get your own IP address, and everything, cool!) | 02:48 |
| javispedro | also i'm pretty sure you can also use whatever debian uses (ifup script?) , but I don't know that one. | 02:48 |
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| crashanddie | but I was wondering if it were possible to write a small app that would automagically connect to those ESSIDs, and post the login to the webpage directly | 02:48 |
| crashanddie | (using wget?) | 02:48 |
| luke-jr | crashanddie: more likely curl. wget sucks | 02:50 |
| crashanddie | wget pwns, especially when you want to automate a post | 02:50 |
| crashanddie | but that's a detail | 02:50 |
| * javispedro does not really suggest http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/icd2/group__srv__provider__api.html , as it seems quite overkill, but the description of what's it for clearly matches what you're asking. | 02:53 | |
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| javispedro | The service provider API makes it possible to run tasks after an IP address has been acquired in the network module ip layer but before the network is announced to applications as being connected. [...] In this way e.g. hotspot WLAN networks can be supported, since they need IP layer connectivity in order to reach an authentication service that usually means posting credentials on a web page. | 02:53 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: excellent | 02:54 |
| crashanddie | perfect, I'll look into this tomorrow | 02:55 |
| javispedro | I wonder if someone (or you) could make such a plugin which falls down on .sh/.conf files | 02:55 |
| javispedro | (or if it's already done... :P) | 02:55 |
| SpeedEvil | You mean so it simply called a script, and did stuff on return status? | 02:56 |
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| javispedro | yeah | 02:57 |
| SpeedEvil | xhttp://www.dealextreme.com/feedbacks/browseCustomerPhotos.dx/sku.16921~id.45781 | 02:58 |
| SpeedEvil | argh | 02:58 |
| SpeedEvil | sorry | 02:58 |
| javispedro | advantage of integrating with icd2 is that no apps get the "network up" signal before authentication | 02:58 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 02:58 |
| javispedro | so no data / SSL error messages / timeouts ... | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sounds reasonable | 02:59 |
| * Arkenoi tried to watch "twilight", please, make me unsee that 15 minutes i suffered | 02:59 | |
| javispedro | I currently have an issue where the "captive" authentication portal grabs ALL TCP connections, thus causing POP3S to _FAIL MISERABLE_ when the certificate doesn't match. I hate it because it stops checking mail. | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | though I really hope it's a package to deinstall | 02:59 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd also like to poke wwwoffled - a http proxy - in there. | 02:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - actually - I'd like to poke a compressing differential proxy in there - but I haven't written it yet. | 03:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | actually we'd need separate network devices representing different classes of connectivity types | 03:01 |
| javispedro | what you mean? | 03:01 |
| SpeedEvil | You can do routing by various things with iptraf | 03:02 |
| SpeedEvil | I've got one script that does rtmp proxying that way | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | like browser using a network card that has connection only while wlan, while modest using one that aslo uses gprs | 03:02 |
| javispedro | ah | 03:02 |
| javispedro | also known as the "mms problem" :) | 03:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | That would be 'trivial' with user-based routing. | 03:03 |
| SpeedEvil | fmms runs under user frals | 03:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yep | 03:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Only user frals has a route to gprs0:1 or whatever it is | 03:03 |
| javispedro | but per process routing tables were not introduced until a later kernel iirc | 03:04 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - per process would be good too | 03:04 |
| SpeedEvil | per process network traffic info would be lovely too. | 03:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway I hope to see things move that way | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hell, we could even have separate routes for 2G and 3G | 03:11 |
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| talonz | hey guys | 03:52 |
| talonz | are there any real bad side effects with repartitioning mydocs on the n900 to ext3 instead of vfat ? | 03:54 |
| SpeedEvil | The camera app used to not work when you did that. | 03:54 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure how the scripts will react - it tries to force unmount mydocs when you plug it into USB as a mass storage device. | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | That may not work for a number of reasons. | 03:55 |
| talonz | yeah thats enough to scare me off | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I left mydocs as it was - but shrunk it to 4G - made a 26G data - and mounted it under /home/user/data | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | works for me. | 03:55 |
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| talonz | nice SpeedEvil sounds like a better option | 03:56 |
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| pexi | SpeedEvil, did u change the partition size or made some(?) direct file mount? | 04:09 |
| luke-jr | w00t | 04:10 |
| luke-jr | got wifi working | 04:10 |
| luke-jr | I think | 04:10 |
| SpeedEvil | pexi: I changed the size of mydocs - and left it as vfat | 04:11 |
| luke-jr | kismet seems to be working too... somewhat | 04:12 |
| pexi | ok, some1 suggested to make virtual file to vfat partition and mount it to user but I don't know how to do it or does it even work on maemo | 04:13 |
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| pexi | or even rootfs | 04:14 |
| luke-jr | N810 is almost useful, maybe | 04:14 |
| luke-jr | p54spi is delivering PPI :D | 04:14 |
| luke-jr | now if only GPS were usable | 04:15 |
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| luke-jr | could get much better wardriving results | 04:15 |
| * SpeedEvil spent too long trying to reverse engineer GPS. It's annoying. | 04:15 | |
| * luke-jr concurs | 04:16 | |
| luke-jr | but what other choice do we have to make N810 usable? :P | 04:16 |
| SpeedEvil | Binary blob? | 04:16 |
| pexi | SpeedEvil, do u know anything that I said? I mean, it would be nice to just mount some extra space without partitioniong | 04:16 |
| SpeedEvil | Or is there no good driver? | 04:16 |
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| SpeedEvil | pexi: you could loopback mount from the vfat, yes | 04:17 |
| pexi | is it practical to use? | 04:17 |
| pexi | speed/etc | 04:17 |
| SpeedEvil | I've not compared speed of loopback mounting. | 04:17 |
| pexi | well, have to try it | 04:18 |
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| rokr1 | hello all | 04:28 |
| rokr1 | is there any successful port for android for maemo | 04:29 |
| rokr1 | ? | 04:29 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: there is no usable driver currently at all | 04:30 |
| LiraNuna | sadly no | 04:30 |
| LiraNuna | I'd love to have 2.2 on the N900 | 04:30 |
| luke-jr | awesome. I got kismet working *concurrent* with client mode | 04:30 |
| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: You mean the hardware has never functioned? Under the stock OS? | 04:30 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: not correctly. with stock OS you can fiddle with it and get something | 04:31 |
| rokr1 | sorry got disconnected | 04:31 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: stock OS is not maintained/supported | 04:31 |
| luke-jr | stock OS's kernel is not supported by any current Linux distro | 04:31 |
| rokr1 | i am back | 04:31 |
| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: I mean put the binary driver in a chroot/... | 04:31 |
| luke-jr | (2.6.21 is too old for udev) | 04:31 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: it doesn't work with any recent kernel | 04:31 |
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| rokr1 | lol N900 has IOMMU = paravirtualization | 04:32 |
| SpeedEvil | Then it gets involved. | 04:32 |
| javispedro | IOMMU is not that useful for "para"virtualization | 04:32 |
| rokr1 | is there any port for qemu or any virtualization software for maemo 5 | 04:33 |
| rokr1 | ..? | 04:33 |
| javispedro | there's no arm virtualization software that I know of, other than vmware embedded, which is non-free | 04:34 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: I have a 9.4 KB LD_PRELOAD lib to 'patch' the blob driver to *theoretically* work, but it isn't successful yet | 04:34 |
| javispedro | there's qemu with no kqemu -- aka emulation. | 04:34 |
| luke-jr | javispedro: OpenVZ should work fine | 04:34 |
| javispedro | okey, there's no different OS virtualization that I know of. | 04:35 |
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| rokr1 | okie is openvz available in maemo's repository | 04:35 |
| luke-jr | rokr1: not a chance | 04:36 |
| luke-jr | hmm, I seem to have literally lost my wifi router | 04:36 |
| luke-jr | i want to unplug it and see what p54spi does, but I literally can't find it... | 04:36 |
| rokr1 | kool for KDE gool for GNOME | 04:38 |
| rokr1 | i have seen ntidroid | 04:38 |
| rokr1 | or wat ever is a port of android to maemo | 04:39 |
| javispedro | a port of android to maemo? | 04:39 |
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| javispedro | it's a port of android to the n900, for all I know. | 04:39 |
| rokr1 | dono | 04:40 |
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| rokr1 | i cant waste money on android phone | 04:40 |
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| rokr1 | also seen backtrack port for N900 | 04:41 |
| javispedro | heya hostmode guys, up to something evil? | 04:41 |
| LiraNuna | will PR1.2 be able to remove stuff from the application menu? | 04:41 |
| rokr1 | PR1.2 available...? | 04:42 |
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| LiraNuna | notice the word 'will' | 04:42 |
| rokr1 | hmmm | 04:43 |
| rokr1 | PR is the word in caps so eye catch that first | 04:43 |
| rokr1 | on my N900's small screen | 04:43 |
| rokr1 | my rootfs is running out of memory | 04:44 |
| rokr1 | 1 mb left | 04:45 |
| luke-jr | ok, I'm quite pleased with p54spi now... | 04:45 |
| luke-jr | it's even smart enough to timeout my client connection when it goes bye-bye, and start channel jumping in kismet | 04:45 |
| luke-jr | now if only I can get the GPS piece of the wardriving equation, this will be handy | 04:46 |
| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: Does it have bt? | 04:46 |
| mtnbkr | can anyone recommend a good bluetooth headset that works well with the N900? my new Motorola H780 is practically unuseable with my N900 - but for some reason seems fine with my spare iPhone 3G :( With the N900, I hear random buzzing or other strange electronic sounds which completely vlock out the other caller's voice. :( | 04:46 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: no idea, and tbh, don't care :p | 04:47 |
| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: I mean - btgps | 04:47 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: don't have anything BT besides N810 and a headset | 04:47 |
| luke-jr | I got N810 to *be* my "btgps" | 04:47 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 04:47 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 04:47 |
| luke-jr | probably my #1 complaint about it :p | 04:48 |
| luke-jr | because my primary use doesn't work | 04:48 |
| javispedro | this reminds me | 04:48 |
| javispedro | what does the n900 use as gpsdriver? | 04:48 |
| luke-jr | AFAIK, N900's 'gpsdriver' runs on the phone CPU | 04:49 |
| luke-jr | so the N900 system CPU just gets a standard NMEA stream on ttySn | 04:49 |
| javispedro | oh, that would be easy to check | 04:49 |
| luke-jr | heh | 04:49 |
| Macer | hm. i need to get a usb network adapter for my wii | 04:50 |
| Macer | i wonder if this usb wifi adapter i have will work in the wii linux stuff | 04:50 |
| javispedro | EIO while read() every of ttyS{0,1,2,3} | 04:50 |
| luke-jr | javispedro: kill gpsd first? | 04:51 |
| luke-jr | and/or check how gpsd is configured :P | 04:51 |
| javispedro | would a sharing conflict cause EIO? | 04:51 |
| luke-jr | no clue | 04:51 |
| javispedro | I was expecting to see no output.. | 04:51 |
| javispedro | no gpds btw, everything is now handled by two uid=0 daemons | 04:53 |
| luke-jr | wtf | 04:53 |
| luke-jr | gpsd is *the* GPS protocol daemon | 04:53 |
| luke-jr | N900 ignores compliance with GPS standard apps? | 04:54 |
| javispedro | yes | 04:54 |
| javispedro | iirc there was a project implementing a nokia's liblocation protocol -> nmea bridge | 04:54 |
| luke-jr | wow, that plain sucks | 04:55 |
| luke-jr | +1 more glad I didn't buy one | 04:55 |
| javispedro | the pseudonice part is that I think whatever driver they use now works a bit better than it did on the n8x0 | 04:55 |
| javispedro | *n810 | 04:55 |
| rokr1 | BRB | 05:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | The gps chipset is actually part of the mobile package. | 05:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Ot | 05:06 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not NMEA | 05:06 |
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| rokr1 | i am back | 05:11 |
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| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: identified the next GPS problem, FWIW | 06:17 |
| luke-jr | 2.6.33.2 detects 3 serial ports; diablo's ttyS0 is ttyS1 | 06:18 |
| luke-jr | of course, the blob doesn't support any way to change the serial port it uses... | 06:18 |
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| javispedro | luke-jr: put that in the gpsdriver oss request bug report, ensure to mention "future meego efforts" somewhere | 06:22 |
| SpeedEvil | luke-jr: I assume it just opens - it doesn't open /dev/ttyS0? | 06:23 |
| luke-jr | SpeedEvil: it does open /dev/ttyS0 | 06:23 |
| SpeedEvil | because if it does - just altering the node that S0 points at | 06:23 |
| SpeedEvil | that's easy then | 06:23 |
| luke-jr | that's an ugly ugly hack | 06:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - yes. | 06:23 |
| javispedro | specially with udev | 06:23 |
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| luke-jr | to even make it half-sane, I'll need to extend my LD_PRELOAD wrapper to remap the open() syscall | 06:23 |
| luke-jr | <.< | 06:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Or you could just jam it in a chroot | 06:23 |
| luke-jr | that would be a good idea :P | 06:23 |
| SpeedEvil | with a custom - /dev | 06:23 |
| luke-jr | in fact, while I'm at it, why not a fullblown OpenVZ environment? | 06:24 |
| javispedro | just be happy you don't need to jam it into | 06:24 |
| luke-jr | jail that sucker blob | 06:24 |
| javispedro | heh, I was going to say that :) | 06:24 |
| javispedro | well, leaving -- see you. | 06:24 |
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| luke-jr | pfft | 06:24 |
| luke-jr | actually, I coudl probably minimize, maybe even get rid of, the preload wrapper with a chroot | 06:25 |
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| GAN900 | The unlocked Nexus Ones went way up | 06:41 |
| GAN900 | Google is almost certainly financing some fun purchase. | 06:41 |
| GAN900 | Unless somebody is gonna get Maemo running on it. | 06:42 |
| luke-jr | fwiw, p54spi seems to be about 1 Mbit :p | 06:43 |
| luke-jr | GAN900: 'way up'?? | 06:43 |
| GAN900 | Like, fro $300 to $450 | 06:44 |
| luke-jr | O.o | 06:44 |
| GAN900 | eBay, for used ones | 06:44 |
| luke-jr | oh | 06:44 |
| GAN900 | New ones are about $650 | 06:44 |
| GAN900 | Google stopped selling them, I think. | 06:44 |
| luke-jr | hm | 06:44 |
| luke-jr | good | 06:44 |
| luke-jr | maybe that means Nexus Two is coming | 06:44 |
| GAN900 | I think they just decided to get out of the direct sales game. | 06:45 |
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| CutMeOwnThroat | you got a weird topic | 06:56 |
| * GAN900 facepalms | 06:59 | |
| luke-jr | lol | 07:01 |
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| ZogG_N900 | nokia workshop meeting and i didn't know | 08:18 |
| ZogG_N900 | =( | 08:18 |
| ham5 | here? | 08:18 |
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| ZogG_N900 | ham5, tel aviv | 08:19 |
| RST38h | nokia worship meeting | 08:20 |
| ham5 | down with apple! | 08:20 |
| MacDrunk | \yeea | 08:21 |
| odin_ | !seen Jebba | 08:21 |
| MacDrunk | kill apple | 08:21 |
| MacDrunk | hey | 08:21 |
| MacDrunk | zogG | 08:21 |
| odin_ | ~seen Jebba | 08:22 |
| infobot | jebba <~jebba@Ploegsma.cwx.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 19d 11h 30m 43s ago, saying: 'i dont do maemo stuff for weeks, go to do something, and its down..... pfft.'. | 08:22 |
| ZogG_N900 | MacDrunk, hey | 08:23 |
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| RST38h | http://pics.livejournal.com/drugoi/pic/00ze7xt5.jpg | 08:30 |
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| RST38h | The bull wins, epically | 08:30 |
| ham5 | good | 08:30 |
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| Stskeeps | luke-jr: what was wifi issue? | 08:53 |
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| AlexCeli | hi | 09:01 |
| * wall[e] just went back from bangkok cleaning day | 09:01 | |
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| pupnik | amazing picture, RST38h | 09:13 |
| pupnik | always be sure to brush to your way-back teeth guys. they are a bitch to work-on. | 09:14 |
| pupnik | i want the browser to translate sites automagically for next visit to .fi | 09:24 |
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| lauri | Hey guys | 09:47 |
| lauri | Can anyone give me hints how is this view panning done in Maemo Qt4 apps? | 09:48 |
| lauri | Like the media player | 09:49 |
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| pupnik | lauri: check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=JP&hl=ja&v=cHmH_U5-YL8 QGraphicsView | 10:13 |
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| pupnik | RST38h: hey do you know Korbáčiky - | 11:41 |
| * pupnik lurves the stuff | 11:41 | |
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| eichi_PDA | help...seems that much thinks dont work like package manager ans calendar because there is no space left on n800. what can i do? | 11:47 |
| eichi_PDA | disc usage app sais / has 4mb free | 11:48 |
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| tank-man | get more space | 11:48 |
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| eichi_PDA | i dont have files in home folder | 11:49 |
| eichi_PDA | dont know, why space get more little al the time | 11:49 |
| tank-man | but you have many installed programs? | 11:49 |
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| eichi_PDA | maybe | 11:53 |
| MohammadAG | eichi_PDA> i dont have files in home follder | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | everyone has a home folder | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | everyone has files in the home folder | 11:56 |
| eichi_PDA | yeah, but nothing, needs much space | 11:57 |
| eichi_PDA | uh, wtf du -sh . sais 30mb | 11:58 |
| eichi_PDA | removed some packages with apt-get, works bow | 12:00 |
| eichi_PDA | but tthe homefolder space is crazy | 12:00 |
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| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, heeeey | 12:32 |
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| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, =( | 12:33 |
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| mfar | good morning guys! | 12:55 |
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| kiran_viswm | meow....... | 12:57 |
| mfar | I have a question, I am trying to install maemo on beagleboard following http://maemo-beagle.garage.maemo.org/alpha.html, but apt cant found packages at repository.maemo.org for maemo5.0alpha | 12:57 |
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| mfar | should I try with fremantle packages? | 12:58 |
| zlimvos | hey all | 12:58 |
| zlimvos | are those: kernel-config load ideal ; kernel-config limits 150 1000 decent settings ? | 12:59 |
| zlimvos | for n900 | 12:59 |
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| Stskeeps | mfar: use omappedia.org instead | 13:02 |
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| MohammadAG | ZogG_N900, ? | 13:02 |
| ZogG_N900 | wheeee | 13:03 |
| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, \o/ | 13:03 |
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| MohammadAG | o/ | 13:03 |
| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, have you read about nokia developer workshop | 13:03 |
| MohammadAG | err, nope | 13:03 |
| MohammadAG | not that i recall | 13:03 |
| MohammadAG | any events in IL? | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | imaworld.org | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | yes | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | in telaviv | 13:04 |
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| MohammadAG | bah | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | 25-26th may | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | this week | 13:04 |
| MohammadAG | crap | 13:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | i can't go i thought maybe u could | 13:04 |
| MohammadAG | lol got exams | 13:04 |
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| MohammadAG | which is why i'm kinda pissed | 13:05 |
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| ZogG_N900 | screw exams | 13:05 |
| ZogG_N900 | which day do you have | 13:05 |
| MohammadAG | 25 | 13:05 |
| MohammadAG | 27 | 13:06 |
| MohammadAG | 28 | 13:06 |
| ZogG_N900 | at 26 they gonna talk about qt creator and n900 and meego | 13:06 |
| ZogG_N900 | they ask to bring laptops with qt creator installed | 13:06 |
| MohammadAG | got that | 13:07 |
| ZogG_N900 | i just read about it only today in newspaper | 13:07 |
| ZogG_N900 | if i knew before | 13:07 |
| ZogG_N900 | i have shifts | 13:07 |
| MohammadAG | if only i knew in jan, i would've postponed my exam | 13:08 |
| MohammadAG | oh well | 13:08 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 13:08 |
| ZogG_N900 | but you still can make to second day | 13:08 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | lemme check | 13:09 |
| ZogG_N900 | imaworld.org has the info | 13:09 |
| ZogG_N900 | and schedule | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | my exam scheduele lol | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | crappy ucoz | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | they brought down my site | 13:10 |
| ZogG_N900 | hahah | 13:10 |
| lauri | any GSoC guys here? | 13:10 |
| mfar | Stskeeps, what in omappedia? | 13:10 |
| ZogG_N900 | i assume wikipedia about omap | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | mfar: 'maemo on omap' project | 13:12 |
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| Stskeeps | mfar: personally i would track the meego project instead though | 13:12 |
| ZogG_N900 | i would make time machine | 13:13 |
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| pupnik | you are a time machine | 13:14 |
| wall[e] | http://www.flickr.com/photos/id34/ | 13:14 |
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| wall[e] | bangkok today through n900 | 13:14 |
| pupnik | your pics wall[e] ? | 13:14 |
| wall[e] | pupnik, yes | 13:14 |
| pupnik | you visiting there or what? | 13:14 |
| wall[e] | http://www.flickr.com/photos/id34/4630812467/ | 13:15 |
| ZogG_N900 | wall[e], with pr1.3 ?) | 13:15 |
| wall[e] | i live in bangkok | 13:15 |
| wall[e] | ZogG_N900, pr1.3 is out?!?!?! | 13:15 |
| ZogG_N900 | wall[e], isn't there sort of revolution? | 13:16 |
| wall[e] | ZogG_N900, riots | 13:16 |
| ZogG_N900 | wall[e], pr1.2 is not even out | 13:16 |
| pupnik | beautiful weather. don't quit your day job though | 13:16 |
| wall[e] | yeh, true | 13:16 |
| wall[e] | 20k of people lose their jobs because of the demonstration | 13:17 |
| ZogG_N900 | that was sarcasm like the japan n900 with pr1.2 | 13:17 |
| ZogG_N900 | bazinga | 13:17 |
| wall[e] | by farmers who live 800kms away | 13:17 |
| pupnik | http://www.flickr.com/photos/id34/4630934047/ nice perspective | 13:17 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_N900, http://mohammadag.ucoz.com/schoolfiles/GCE_Local_Timetable-MayJune_10.xls | 13:17 |
| wall[e] | not hk? | 13:18 |
| MohammadAG | can't go :| | 13:18 |
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| wall[e] | pupnik, thanks! | 13:18 |
| ZogG_N900 | nice xchat have to open link in browser open link in opera and so on | 13:19 |
| pupnik | anybody tried chromium? i have it installed but dont know how to execute it | 13:19 |
| MohammadAG | click the icon | 13:19 |
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| pupnik | oh!! hjahah | 13:20 |
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| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, can't open file as i'm from n900 | 13:25 |
| SpeedEvil | install easy-debian and use openoffice. | 13:25 |
| ZogG_N900 | we should ask if matan can and would share any info | 13:25 |
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| lauri | pupnik: I was talking about switching between windows | 13:27 |
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| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, not the fastest solution ;) | 13:28 |
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| ZogG_N900 | SpeedEvil, don't like it | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | sheets to go works | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | anyways, 25th exam, 27th exam | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | i can go on the 26th, but that means i won't study for my exam | 13:29 |
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| ZogG_N900 | what exam | 13:29 |
| ZogG_N900 | i never learn to exams | 13:29 |
| ZogG_N900 | look where i've got - i have my own n900 | 13:30 |
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| lauri | Okay let me say it again - does anyone of you know how they are doing window switching (the X and back button in the right top corner) | 13:31 |
| mfar | thanks Stskeeps | 13:31 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_N900, doesn't work that way ;) | 13:31 |
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| alterego | lauri: you want to have a back button? Or are you doing something elseand just want to know how to switch windows? | 13:32 |
| ZogG_N900 | lauri, what? | 13:33 |
| lauri | Take the media platyer | 13:33 |
| lauri | you click on music and so forth | 13:33 |
| lauri | then you have the back button in the right top corner | 13:33 |
| ZogG_N900 | ow | 13:33 |
| lauri | I suppose they are modal windows? | 13:34 |
| alterego | lauri: I know what youŕe talking about, I want to know exactly what it is you want to do. | 13:34 |
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| alterego | lauri: no | 13:34 |
| lauri | I want to do the same thing in Qt4 | 13:34 |
| lauri | using python | 13:34 |
| lauri | what are they then? | 13:34 |
| alterego | Okay, when you create a new window, set the parent to be your main window. | 13:34 |
| ZogG_N900 | just lurk into the code of any program that can do it | 13:35 |
| lauri | ZoG_N900: any good pointers? | 13:35 |
| lauri | or links | 13:35 |
| alterego | window = QtWindow(parent) .. | 13:35 |
| ZogG_N900 | lauri, look into tweego code | 13:36 |
| alterego | lauri: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-maemo-4.6/maemo5-stackedwindows.html | 13:36 |
| ZogG_N900 | they have it as well as it's in qt | 13:36 |
| lauri | thanks that I was exactly what I was looking for "stacked windows" | 13:36 |
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| alterego | lauri: http://www.friendpaste.com/3ShZGYNMUJQTYHf0lV9LI0 | 13:38 |
| alterego | That one is PySide so probably easier for you to use | 13:38 |
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| lauri | thanks guys it works | 13:40 |
| ZogG_N900 | lauri, what r u writting? | 13:40 |
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| lauri | http://v6sa.wordpress.com/category/maemo/ | 13:40 |
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| lauri | Suggestions and ideas are very much welcome | 13:41 |
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| wall[e] | 4 days and I am still installing SDK | 13:44 |
| wall[e] | entire 4 days of downloading | 13:44 |
| alterego | wall[e]: what are you using for an internet connection? :P | 13:45 |
| wall[e] | :P | 13:45 |
| wall[e] | thai internet! | 13:45 |
| alterego | A carrier pidgeon? :P | 13:45 |
| alterego | Or is it a courier pidgeon .. | 13:45 |
| wall[e] | but mostly the problem roots in nokia's installer is buggy | 13:45 |
| ZogG_N900 | true | 13:45 |
| ZogG_N900 | i couldn't install it on 64bit | 13:46 |
| ZogG_N900 | lauri, i have an idea | 13:46 |
| alterego | I always VM my maemo SDK stuff. | 13:46 |
| ZogG_N900 | lauri, make it urbandictionary client =) | 13:46 |
| alterego | Well, I actually VM all of my stuff. My host install is really just desktop apps. | 13:47 |
| ZogG_N900 | alterego, i kinda don't belive in VMs | 13:47 |
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| wall[e] | i never use windows | 13:47 |
| ZogG_N900 | VM is lie | 13:47 |
| alterego | I can assure you they exist ;) | 13:47 |
| ZogG_N900 | not in my world | 13:48 |
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| ZogG_N900 | alterego, i bet u r on win | 13:48 |
| alterego | I quite like VMś even if they are a bit ḧeavy".. | 13:48 |
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| ZogG_N900 | win vista | 13:50 |
| ZogG_N900 | the one you bought ) | 13:50 |
| ZogG_N900 | actually paid money | 13:50 |
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| RST38bis | helo punks | 13:55 |
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| lauri | another Q | 14:10 |
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| lauri | Qt.WA_Maemo5AutoOrientation in PyQt4 gives me AttributeError | 14:10 |
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| Shapeshifter | lauri: I'm not sure if pyqt implements the QMaemo5 things. pyside on the other hand does. | 14:13 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: altough it seems like it should be supported from 4.6 upwards | 14:13 |
| Macer | woke up to a dead n900 | 14:13 |
| Macer | i think it was because i had gps locating on and i was inside so it wasn't locking | 14:14 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: I'd use pyside if possible anyway. they're slightly slower but have a nicer license and an open source bindings generator. | 14:15 |
| RST38bis | Macer: You murdered it! | 14:17 |
| lauri | Shapeshifter: installing pyside now... | 14:19 |
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| Shapeshifter | lauri: they're pretty much compatible. you just do import from PySide instead of from PyQt4 | 14:21 |
| lauri | but | 14:21 |
| lauri | I have Qt4.5 on my n900 | 14:21 |
| lauri | and apt wants to install PySide for 4.6 which isnt available | 14:22 |
| lauri | what do :D | 14:22 |
| ham5 | how longs a full charge last u guys on average? | 14:22 |
| SpeedEvil | ham5: A day. | 14:22 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: Well, qt is fucked up thanks to nokia. So, what you do is this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=654370&postcount=1 | 14:23 |
| SpeedEvil | ham5: If it's idle connected to wifi - 4 days. | 14:23 |
| ham5 | ok | 14:23 |
| SpeedEvil | That is - a day of moderately heavy use | 14:23 |
| Corsac | except that on wifi the radio has to wake up each time a frame passes, even if it's not the recipient | 14:24 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: you enable the SDK repo, install only qt 4.6, then disable it. that will give you 4.6 on your n900 and will enable you to use all the stuff built against 4.6. so far I haven't heard of a single problem this may have caused. Remember to disable the SDK repo immediately, because if you install other stuff from it you'll break everything and it wont boot etc. | 14:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Corsac: I don't think that's the case with powersaving maximum. | 14:24 |
| lauri | lawl | 14:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Corsac: The radio is actually asleep 99% of the time | 14:24 |
| lauri | is there any updated images available? | 14:24 |
| lauri | with 4.6 | 14:25 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: no. and don't install the leaked 1.2 | 14:25 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: but the SDK solution works well. | 14:25 |
| lauri | whats up with 1.2 | 14:25 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: "being tested" | 14:25 |
| lauri | :D | 14:25 |
| lauri | any big issues why I shouldnt install it on my n900? | 14:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Someones managed to get 'works on holiday in the bahamas' into the testing workflow. | 14:26 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: the leaked one? It's hopelessly outdated | 14:26 |
| Shapeshifter | lauri: and there's no point. | 14:26 |
| SpeedEvil | So every time there is a change, some nokia engineer has to go on holiday for 2 weeks. | 14:26 |
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| lauri | Thanks for the inside info' | 14:28 |
| frals | so err, say i got this nice conf file in /etc/hildon-desktop/notification-groups.conf in which i want to append stuff in my postinst and remove in my prerm... is there any easy way to do it or would i have to go nuts with sed etc? | 14:28 |
| Corsac | doesn't look like a good idea | 14:28 |
| Corsac | not sure about maemo policy, but in debian you _don't_ touch other packages conffiles, and you don't mess up with user/admin settings | 14:29 |
| frals | im all ears if you have another way of adding a custom notification group :) | 14:31 |
| Corsac | I guess there's no /etc/h-d/n-g.d/ ? | 14:31 |
| frals | nope | 14:31 |
| Jaffa | Af'noon | 14:32 |
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| frals | lo Jaffa | 14:34 |
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| * ZogG_N900 is back | 14:53 | |
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| ZogG_N900 | now faster, smarter, better | 14:54 |
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| ZogG_N900 | =( | 14:54 |
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| FauxFaux | Harder. | 14:56 |
| Corsac | stronger? | 14:56 |
| BCMM | what do i need to have installed to get a working git? | 15:01 |
| BCMM | i do git clone, but get "git: 'index-pack' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'." | 15:02 |
| BCMM | (i'm trying to get the prometheus get_iplayer fork - i've tested it on my desktop, and it gets iphone videos that play in media player with no reencoding) | 15:03 |
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| BCMM | i know i can just copy it across, but i'd like to be able to update it without using the desktop | 15:05 |
| FauxFaux | BCMM: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free git-core 1:1.6.6-1maemo1 works fine here. | 15:05 |
| BCMM | git-core | 15:05 |
| BCMM | thanks | 15:05 |
| BCMM | i just did apt-get git | 15:05 |
| BCMM | apt-get install git, rather | 15:06 |
| FauxFaux | Nooo idea what that installs. | 15:07 |
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| BCMM | FauxFaux: well, it was some subset of git... | 15:09 |
| BCMM | it's being uninstalled to install git-core | 15:09 |
| BCMM | possibly it is literally just the git command | 15:09 |
| FauxFaux | In debian, which I understand how to use, git is currently a transitional package for something completely different, and git-core is git. | 15:09 |
| BCMM | and none of the modules (or whatever) it uses | 15:09 |
| BCMM | i think it just used a whole lot of space on / | 15:10 |
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| FauxFaux | index-pack is pretty critically important (like, I'd be suprised if you could clone any non-trivial repository without it), iirc. | 15:13 |
| BCMM | does the n900 play ogg? | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 15:13 |
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| BCMM | or, in general, what format should i rip a CD to | 15:13 |
| FauxFaux | mplayer plays everything. | 15:13 |
| BCMM | i mean, using the media player | 15:13 |
| BCMM | FauxFaux: mplayer is extremely awesome though | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | search appmanager for 'ogg' | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's an addon codecs package | 15:14 |
| BCMM | DocScrutinizer: it is possible to install extra codecs for mediaplayer? | 15:14 |
| FauxFaux | (ogg codec pedantry rage) | 15:14 |
| BCMM | oh, cool | 15:14 |
| BCMM | FauxFaux: yeah i know ogg vorbis | 15:14 |
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| BCMM | and what would you say the best lossy codec, in terms of quality-per-file-size, that plays back in media player? | 15:16 |
| BCMM | ogg? | 15:16 |
| MohammadAG | 14:57:29 up 13:32, load average: 16.53, 17.49, 14.90 | 15:16 |
| FauxFaux | Vorbis is certainly the easiest to find support for, yeah. | 15:16 |
| MohammadAG | lzma extraction, why it's a bad idea ^ | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo btw | 15:16 |
| MohammadAG | moo DocScrutinizer :) | 15:16 |
| BCMM | pleased that i have an n900 - felt silly ripping things to mp3 because of my ipod | 15:17 |
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| MohammadAG | doesn't the iPod use MP3? | 15:18 |
| MohammadAG | or AAC | 15:18 |
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| BCMM | MohammadAG: yeah, i meant it was silly to be storing things i mostly listened to on my desktop in mp3 format (with all it's problems) just because i sometimes wanted them on an ipod | 15:19 |
| BCMM | ^its | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: you eventually managed to _end_ hostmode? ;-P | 15:20 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, not really, it took three reboots and I had to sigstop bme :) | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | hard to believe | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | not really | 15:21 |
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| MohammadAG | i cat'd the driver file | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | and it had two extra lines | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | plus the device was in b_peripheral | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | and host mode wasn't actually working | 15:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, didn't daddy tell you not to play with matches? | 15:22 |
| MohammadAG | not that i recall :P | 15:23 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, i'm more curious what the 2 lines were | 15:23 |
| MohammadAG | but you left after kicking yourself | 15:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I needed it | 15:24 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at news pandora is shipping | 15:25 | |
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| SpeedEvil | Unpossible. | 15:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | Just don't open the box. | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | they should ship it in plastic wrap or something | 15:28 |
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| MohammadAG | lcuk's back! | 15:29 |
| lcuk | not really i just rebooted :P | 15:30 |
| MohammadAG | /kick lcuk | 15:30 |
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| lcuk | :D trout slapping | 15:32 |
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| * lcuk how you doin today frals | 15:34 | |
| lcuk | -/me | 15:34 |
| frals | tis good, trying to wrestle my way around hildon-notifications | 15:34 |
| lcuk | yeah i saw | 15:34 |
| frals | but they are doing their best not to cooperate with me :( | 15:34 |
| lcuk | but theres also python info around | 15:34 |
| lcuk | or is this inqt | 15:34 |
| frals | python | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder how much sense is in reporting bugs for xchat | 15:35 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, quite a lot | 15:35 |
| frals | problem is hildon-desktop got a custom notification SV daemon that handles doing sound/vibra | 15:35 |
| SpeedEvil | What're you seeing? | 15:35 |
| frals | but to use it i need to create my own category, which means messing up a .conf file thats not mine :P | 15:36 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | adding a channel to favourites is borked in many ways ;-P | 15:36 |
| lcuk | frals, sure i can see the issue there | 15:36 |
| SpeedEvil | ah - right | 15:37 |
| lcuk | frals, wheres the file itself lets have a looksie | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | I used the alternate UI. | 15:37 |
| frals | /etc/hildon-desktop/notification-groups.conf | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | vi ~/.xchat/... | 15:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | on the channel list in prefs, hit 'ADD', a text field with blue highlighted '#channel:' pops up, you enter e.g. #maemo-hostmode thus deleting the "#channel:, then hit 'save' or 'close'or whatever it's called, and end with a >>#channel,#maemo,#meego...<< list | 15:39 |
| lcuk | ok frals i see | 15:39 |
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| lcuk | so you need a whole [fmms-incoming] and [fmms-sent] style sections | 15:40 |
| frals | well | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: i.e. it takes the text input field preset instead of what you entered | 15:40 |
| MohammadAG | <SpeedEvil> vi ~/.xchat/... | 15:40 |
| MohammadAG | xchat2 | 15:40 |
| frals | i only need a [mms-message] containg LED-Pattern tbh | 15:40 |
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| frals | because rest can be set when launching the notification | 15:40 |
| frals | but yeah | 15:40 |
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| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: I could say I have a symlink. But... | 15:41 |
| lcuk | ok, im thinking ahead a bit :P | 15:41 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 15:41 |
| frals | lcuk: if theres a 'good' way to do it a whole section with everything set would be best | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: editing into the textfield holding the full list does work though | 15:42 |
| MohammadAG | frals, change the mce.ini file, you wouldn't be the first one who'd do it :) | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: but the "ADD" function is seriously borked | 15:42 |
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| lcuk | i dont think there is, other than a bit of script to backup, append. removal after uninstalling would be a problem, tho it may be better to leave it | 15:42 |
| lcuk | its not like the .d folders for things | 15:42 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, afaik there's a cli app for it | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | mceledpatterns or something | 15:43 |
| lcuk | grep the file before you start to check [fmms isnt already in it | 15:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: and as the 'add to favourites' in a chan tab context menu seems to be related, it's borked as well | 15:43 |
| frals | MohammadAG: this doesnt concern mce.ini :) | 15:43 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, we arent talking about that file | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | err | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | LED notifications? | 15:43 |
| frals | lcuk: yeah, thats what im thinking, add it if it isnt there and leave it after uninstalling | 15:43 |
| lcuk | yeah it would be troublesome to try removing it | 15:44 |
| lcuk | and you owuldnt want to just restore your backup, because all sorts could have happened | 15:44 |
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| frals | aye exactly | 15:44 |
| lcuk | yeah kot now you show it i have seen already | 15:45 |
| lcuk | shit | 15:45 |
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| frals | MohammadAG: hildon notifications ;) | 15:47 |
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| lcuk | frals, lemme ask | 15:48 |
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| MohammadAG | frals, dbus | 15:52 |
| frals | can i define my own category with dbus? :) | 15:52 |
| frals | (the goal is to not have to start the vibra/sms signal manually via dbus) | 15:53 |
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| crashanddie | Where are the root CA certs stored in Maemo? | 15:57 |
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| Appiah | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/ca-certificates/filelist this is where Debain puts the files | 15:59 |
| crashanddie | hmm, /etc/certs/common-ca/ | 15:59 |
| Appiah | check there on your maemo device | 15:59 |
| frals | hmm | 16:01 |
| frals | wonder how i get hildon-desktop or whatever to reread the notification-groups.conf | 16:01 |
| frals | -HUP should do it i guess | 16:01 |
| frals | he, i was assuming wrong :[ | 16:05 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: primary wifi issue is p54spi calling itself 'cx3110x' and board-n800 expecting 'p54spi' | 16:06 |
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| Stskeeps | luke-jr: ah | 16:12 |
| crashanddie | is anyone aware of an icd2 service provider example somewhere? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: that makes sense | 16:13 |
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| frals | baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, adding my own group in notification-groups isnt enough to get the vibra to work | 16:15 |
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| MohammadAG | i'm missing something | 16:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=671598#post671598 | 16:15 |
| MohammadAG | can't you just add a vibra pattern to mce.ini? | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: (xchat bug) | 16:16 |
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| frals | MohammadAG: the point os to send a hildon-notification and have it play the email sound and email vibrapattern | 16:16 |
| frals | MohammadAG: without using the email-message category | 16:16 |
| lcuk | laptop keyboards arent friendly to c style comments | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: hmmm :-S | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | frals os.popen('dbuscommand') | 16:17 |
| crashanddie | lcuk: //? | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: happen to know if there's any PSM support? | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | for the vibra | 16:17 |
| frals | MohammadAG: wihtout using the dbus command... | 16:17 |
| frals | MohammadAG: :P | 16:17 |
| lcuk | crashanddie, sure - for single lines | 16:17 |
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| MohammadAG | frals, why! lol | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: hmmm :-S | 16:17 |
| lcuk | but if i want to comment out a block im used to a quick tap on numeric keypad | 16:17 |
| frals | MohammadAG: because the other notification can do it | 16:17 |
| frals | DocScrutinizer: hmm! | 16:18 |
| lcuk | or even - the visual basic 6 ide has a comment block thingy :p | 16:18 |
| lcuk | click a ui button :D | 16:18 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: I would assume so, but I always disable that crap | 16:18 |
| MohammadAG | mce is closed, so i kind of guess you can't(?) do it | 16:18 |
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| MohammadAG | or just kill engines 1&2 and echo brightness levels and vibration levels | 16:18 |
| frals | MohammadAG: its not done in mce, its handled by hildon-desktop | 16:18 |
| MohammadAG | since fmms depends on rootsh, i can't see the problem | 16:19 |
| frals | and it doesnt depend on rootsh ;) | 16:19 |
| lcuk | doing the notifications properly by pre configuring the files to then call and use later is the proper way | 16:19 |
| MohammadAG | Depends: python2.5, python-gtk2 (>= 2.12.1-6maemo10), python-osso (>= 0.4-0maemo2), python-hildon (>= 0.9.0-1maemo15), python-dbus, gnome-python (>= 2.18.0-2maemo6), python-imaging, python-gobject, python-evolution, rootsh, sharing-fmms, python-conic | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | frals sure? ;) | 16:20 |
| frals | MohammadAG: http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/hildon-home/blobs/master/src/hd-sv-notification-daemon.c | 16:20 |
| frals | MohammadAG: weird, im sure i removed it | 16:20 |
| lcuk | of course best would be having the file pre configured with fmms details out of the flashed image :p | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | frals, oh, i didn't check the latest version :) | 16:20 |
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| MohammadAG | frals, compile a custom hildon-desktop! :P | 16:22 |
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| MohammadAG | (while you're at it, change the blur to a dimmed background, like in the MeeGo gallery) | 16:22 |
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| vanadismobile | hai | 16:23 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, ? | 16:23 |
| lcuk | show screenies | 16:23 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, download the gallery :) | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | sec | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | lemme dl it | 16:24 |
| vanadismobile | my microb is regularly setting its encoding from utf8 to big5 I/II | 16:24 |
| vanadismobile | anybody encountering the same problem? | 16:24 |
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| MohammadAG | lcuk, getting rid of the blur will actually increase performance | 16:25 |
| lcuk | :) | 16:26 |
| MohammadAG | replacing it with a dim should keep functionality | 16:26 |
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| MohammadAG | (i.e to show what's inactive) | 16:26 |
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| lcuk | yeah MohammadAG | 16:27 |
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| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: yeah - saw that - was abou to point you to that thread | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: having a tmo thread for "bugtracker" is quite strange | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 16:30 |
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| crashanddie | ~seen javispedro | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, it's against the QA afaik | 16:32 |
| infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/council/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10h 7m 59s ago, saying: 'well, leaving -- see you.'. | 16:32 |
| crashanddie | where is your elected representative when you need one | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 16:33 |
| lcuk | theres more than one | 16:33 |
| crashanddie | lcuk: yeah, but only this one pointed me to ICD2, so I'm hoping he understands the docs better than I do :P | 16:33 |
| SpeedEvil | It's better than the alternative - which is an email tracker | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | flashing the indicator LED by any other means than a d-bus call to MCE is probably a very bad idea | 16:33 |
| lcuk | +1 | 16:33 |
| frals | ~nuke hd-sv-notification-daemon.c | 16:34 |
| * infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at hd-sv-notification-daemon.c ... B☢☢M! | 16:34 | |
| crashanddie | missle silos? | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, how did we fix the 5V thing? | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | huh? | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | we killed bme | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | killing mce won't harm - much | 16:34 |
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| MohammadAG | http://i49.tinypic.com/mbocjn.jpg lcuk | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | killing bme is considered an evil botch, not for any decent application. It needs a replacement for the time bme is stopped. | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | I do not see how to replace mce, just to flash the indicator light | 16:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | Or a kernel that can do autonomous charging. | 16:36 |
| lcuk | sure MohammadAG | 16:36 |
| lcuk | thx | 16:36 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, it dims more with a nested dialog http://i48.tinypic.com/2vttwls.jpg | 16:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure why userspace would get involved in setting normal charging policy. | 16:36 |
| * DocScrutinizer yawns & sighs | 16:36 | |
| lcuk | thats just running the same algo on the already dimmed surface | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Though that's a fairly low priotiy | 16:37 |
| MohammadAG | http://i48.tinypic.com/308d4ir.jpg | 16:37 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: What were you going on about earlier about current to focus. | 16:37 |
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| MohammadAG | lcuk, replacing the blur with a dim shouldn't be hard | 16:37 |
| lcuk | SpeedEvil, im diddling with focusing and have a continuously focusing camera test | 16:37 |
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| spectre- | hey | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | anyways, idk C so i'm in no 'position' to say that | 16:38 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: Ah. So it you were wondering about additional current to autofocus an already running stream? | 16:38 |
| spectre- | anyone know how to get a dns server running on an n900? | 16:38 |
| lcuk | and wondered how much of a drain it would have, i suppose i should try it first without continuous and then with | 16:38 |
| lcuk | and get the difference | 16:38 |
| lcuk | yeah | 16:38 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, the fps looks drastic | 16:39 |
| spectre- | is there a port of bind? | 16:39 |
| RST38h | moo lcuk | 16:39 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, it's 60 but taking a screenshot downs it | 16:39 |
| MohammadAG | 60-ish, fps is never static | 16:39 |
| lcuk | spectre-, mm i think you can just install it | 16:39 |
| spectre- | what repo is it in? | 16:39 |
| frals | bah im just gonna fire off the vibra myself with dbus | 16:39 |
| MohammadAG | apparently screenshots are CPU-intense | 16:39 |
| frals | need to write a fucking plugin to hildon-sv-notification-daemon to do it properly | 16:40 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: The camera focus is dynamic, not static. It takes current to keep the lens at any non-default position. | 16:40 |
| lcuk | yeah MohammadAG but the screen should already exist | 16:40 |
| lcuk | so should be saving with the fps it has | 16:40 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, ? | 16:40 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, when you ask for a screenshot | 16:40 |
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| lcuk | it should copy the pixmap that already exist | 16:40 |
| lcuk | ie the one with high fps :P | 16:40 |
| MohammadAG | there's a <1s delay | 16:41 |
| lcuk | still | 16:41 |
| lcuk | you get the idea | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | which is annoying | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 16:41 |
| lcuk | the hard part of taking a screenshot is compressing the details | 16:41 |
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| lcuk | after you have the inmemory pixmap | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, apt-get install dui-demos-widgetsgallery | 16:41 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: I wonder if you can use any of the nice existing compression engines in the device. | 16:41 |
| lcuk | SpeedEvil, sure, if it uses the jpg lib it should? | 16:42 |
| SpeedEvil | dunno | 16:42 |
| lcuk | but have a look at what qt uses to save screenshot | 16:42 |
| spectre- | ok | 16:42 |
| spectre- | anyone know what repo bind is in? | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_vibrator_pattern_activate string:'PatternChatAndEmail' | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_led_pattern_activate string:PatternCommunicationIM | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_led_pattern_deactivate string:PatternCommunicationIM | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | He asked for the email LED! | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 16:43 |
| frals | got one for playing the email tone? ;D | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | pfrrrrrrrrrt | 16:43 |
| frals | DocScrutinizer: thanks :) | 16:43 |
| lcuk | echo "<say voice='connie'>You've got mail</say> | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | wrong language | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 16:44 |
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| lcuk | echo "<say voice='connie'>Du har mail</say>" | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: (play email tone) probably system("aplay /usr/share/sounds/myFavourite_email_tone.wav") | 16:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or any other more sophisticated method to playback sound of your joice | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | err choice | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | OMFG | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | that coffee must have been bad | 16:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or too small | 16:48 |
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| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, forget choice | 16:50 |
| lcuk | having frals actually saying "your new mms has arrived" | 16:50 |
| lcuk | :D | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought you'd say forget Joice | 16:50 |
| lcuk | ;) | 16:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | lcuk: The focus alone uses up to 60mA more at closest focus. But that is ~5cm. At 30cm, it drops to ~10mA | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: HEH :-) | 16:51 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: In context - display active and streaming video from camera is 220. | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, cam focus is via a e-magnet driven by a rather strong powerful D/A converter | 16:52 |
| spectre- | ok guys, so nobody here has any idea how to get a dns server up on an n900? | 16:52 |
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| spectre- | i need to combine my joikuspot w/ a dns so that i can manipulate users behind it | 16:53 |
| spectre- | and redirect them to my ip when they type "school" or something | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | evil manipulator! | 16:53 |
| RST38h | Doc: So, what does it use to focus? | 16:53 |
| RST38h | Doc: Some kind of liquid optics? | 16:53 |
| spectre- | well i'm hosting an open courseware repository on my n900 | 16:54 |
| spectre- | 30 gigs of flash math instructional videos, mit courseware, etc | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, just a moving lens, like every cam does | 16:54 |
| spectre- | so when i throw up a hotspot i enable lighttpd | 16:54 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: The acto of autofocusing may be another 20, it's hard to tell | 16:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - live focus ++ | 16:54 |
| spectre- | problem is then clients have to enter my ip to access the content | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: you're watching thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=671598#post671598 ? | 16:54 |
| spectre- | i wanna redirect dns requests for "school" to my ip | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | spectre-: There is a DNS on it already | 16:55 |
| spectre- | need a dns server running to do that | 16:55 |
| spectre- | what do you mean? | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Or iptables | 16:55 |
| spectre- | a dns server? | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | there is already a DNS proxy | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't recall the details | 16:55 |
| spectre- | dnsmasq? | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't think it can be enableable to be reachable externally | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | that too | 16:55 |
| spectre- | i saw that in apt-cache search | 16:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I mean - there is a DNS proxy by default on the device | 16:56 |
| SpeedEvil | this is why /etc/resolv.conf is as it is | 16:56 |
| spectre- | yeah but i need to redirect users on the wifi hotspot | 16:56 |
| frals | im awesome \o/ | 16:56 |
| spectre- | i can specify their primary dns in dhcpd config | 16:56 |
| spectre- | to point to my ip | 16:56 |
| spectre- | and thus redirect requests | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | frals: you're special | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | xD | 16:57 |
| frals | no arguing there ;) | 16:57 |
| * DocScrutinizer highfives lcuk | 16:57 | |
| frals | http://gitorious.org/fmms/fmms/blobs/master/wappushhandler.py#line110 \o/ | 16:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Does mms's have geotags? | 16:57 |
| frals | not that im aware :P | 16:57 |
| SpeedEvil | I mean - if they're jpegs - shouldn't they? | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | photos might have though | 16:58 |
| frals | the pictures can surely contain them | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever the cam writes to exif (or what it's called) | 16:58 |
| SpeedEvil | it's exif | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | mms won't bother | 16:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Modulo https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6584 of course | 16:59 |
| povbot` | Bug 6584: GPS geotagged pictures truncate precision of GPS reading (0 decimal places) | 16:59 |
| MohammadAG | can exifs be edited? | 16:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | yes | 17:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 6584 is a real showstopper - strange shit | 17:03 |
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| RST38h | Doc: that is not a bug, that is a feature | 17:06 |
| MohammadAG | ??? | 17:06 |
| RST38h | Doc: It prevents pedophiles who get hold of your kid pictures to track down kid's location | 17:06 |
| MohammadAG | not saving config is a feature? | 17:06 |
| MohammadAG | oh | 17:06 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm not sure if you're kiding | 17:07 |
| MohammadAG | thought you were talking about xchat | 17:07 |
| MohammadAG | Stskeeps, he hasn't had enough coffee | 17:07 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: That is how I like it. | 17:07 |
| SpeedEvil | RST38h: Bullshit. | 17:07 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: Your prayers to the Tentacled One have been answered: we finally have a reasonably responsive Maemo Mapper. | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | what was the bug? | 17:08 |
| SpeedEvil | RST38h: 30m resolution is not a deterrent to that. | 17:08 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: GPS coordinates attached to the photos get truncated | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | bug 6548 | 17:08 |
| povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6548 Google Talk Video Chat crash & lack of interoperability | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | i think | 17:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Stskeeps: GPS geotags in pictures are truncated to integer seconds of lat/lon | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | bah | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | bug 6584 | 17:08 |
| povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6584 GPS geotagged pictures truncate precision of GPS reading (0 decimal places) | 17:08 |
| RST38h | Well, 0 decimal places is like a whole degree | 17:08 |
| RST38h | That is hardly 30m | 17:08 |
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| SpeedEvil | integer seconds. | 17:09 |
| RST38h | ah ok | 17:09 |
| SpeedEvil | It's annoying for some use-cases - and makes the geotags almost useless for some things. | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | write a new camera app? | 17:10 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, gimme 5 mins and it'll be on git | 17:10 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Man, at this rate we are gonna write a whole new Maemo. | 17:10 |
| RST38h | s/gonna/gonna have to/ | 17:10 |
| infobot | RST38h meant: Stskeeps: Man, at this rate we are gonna have to write a whole new Maemo. | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | i think it is what nokia hoped we'd do | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:10 |
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| SpeedEvil | Stskeeps: Well - the simpler solution would be something that just snoops dbus, looks for new files appearing, and rewrites their exif. | 17:11 |
| MohammadAG | the cam app is crap though ;) | 17:11 |
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| RST38h | hello VDVsx | 17:12 |
| RST38h | Ah, fuck the cam app | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: (stopping/killing bme/mce) see, bme is managing battery, and if we change state of device in a way it can't do that anyway, it's not polite but somewhat justified to stop it. MCE otoh is a resource arbiter (among other things), for LED and vibra. It's not a sane thing to stop it and take over those resources exclusively, as a lot of other apps may break - and btw MCE does quite a lot of other things you don't want to miss if you | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | want to keep your system operational | 17:13 |
| * RST38h is more concerned about the whole system getting stuck (blocked, locked up, unresponsive, etc) every time some app goes to the mmc for some reason | 17:13 | |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, power button and sceen lock | 17:13 |
| MohammadAG | nothing important :) | 17:14 |
| MohammadAG | actually | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i think there's a I/O scheduler problem | 17:14 |
| RST38h | Cost me an important chat today | 17:14 |
| VDVsx | RST38h, hey | 17:14 |
| MohammadAG | i never said kill mce, i said kill engine 1 & 2 | 17:14 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: That has been confirmed | 17:14 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: What has not been confirmed is how to fix it | 17:14 |
| MohammadAG | comment out the line of code and compile | 17:14 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: There is even a good enough test case to debug it: run Fennec, load some reasonably complex page | 17:14 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: see if you can replicate it in meego 1.0 i guess | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | we have .33 there so | 17:15 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps <-- joking, cruelly | 17:17 |
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| * RST38h wonders if this GLES thing is gonna work...hm | 17:18 | |
| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: ack for I/O-scheduler problem | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: or even swapper problem | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suspect swaper daemon always taking precedence over any I/O-scheduler action, regardless of the priority of the process causing the swap | 17:21 |
| wall[e] | anyone use lucid? I have problem xephyr won't start with -kb option | 17:22 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 17:22 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-social-networking-site-changing-the-way-oh-chr,17465/ | 17:22 |
| RST38h | Doc: Is this configurable at the /etc or /sys level? | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: no idea, no kernel hacker here | 17:22 |
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| nocturnal | in the browser, how do i select text on a web page? i've tried the double tap several times but it just scrolls. do i need to activate it in freemantle? | 17:22 |
| RST38h | swap the left-bottom corner left-to-right | 17:23 |
| RST38h | you will see a little pointer icon | 17:23 |
| RST38h | click on it. then you can select text | 17:23 |
| RST38h | unclick the pointer icon when done | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | swipe :-P | 17:23 |
| RST38h | s/swap/swipe yea | 17:24 |
| nocturnal | oh i see | 17:24 |
| nocturnal | =D | 17:24 |
| nocturnal | thanks | 17:24 |
| nocturnal | the wiki should be updated | 17:24 |
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| RST38h | fucking GLES... we hatesssss it | 17:25 |
| MohammadAG | fsck chemistry | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I just brainstorm and the result is I feel swapper should inherit process priority of the process causing the swap | 17:26 |
| _llll_ | nocturnal: agree that the wiki is poorly structured, but it's definitely on there somewhere | 17:26 |
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| MohammadAG | fre not free :) | 17:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: assign it to that particular page swap task, to be precise | 17:26 |
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| RST38h | Doc: Absolutely useless idea, until implemented | 17:27 |
| RST38h | "Brainstorm" = "useless" | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't care much | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | brainstorm is my leisure | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | Brain ash cloud, wonder if we'll have that when MeeGo arrives | 17:28 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/brainstorm/thinking and pondering/ | 17:30 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: thinking and pondering is my leisure | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | implementing it otoh is work, which I'm preety aware of the fact there are others out there that are better on that, and maybe it's even their leissure | 17:32 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 17:33 |
| wall[e] | any attempt to make android app runs on maemo? | 17:35 |
| wall[e] | do they use x11? | 17:35 |
| johnsq | wall[e]: why? just write the apps self. | 17:35 |
| RST38h | yes | 17:35 |
| MohammadAG | doesn't matter | 17:35 |
| RST38h | no | 17:35 |
| RST38h | 17:35 | |
| MohammadAG | they don't use java | 17:35 |
| wall[e] | their vm is open right? | 17:36 |
| wall[e] | but i guess they have their own disaplay system running on their vm too rather a native x | 17:36 |
| wall[e] | ? | 17:36 |
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| MohammadAG | s/don't// | 17:37 |
| infobot | MohammadAG meant: they use java | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | dalvik != java | 17:37 |
| wall[e] | just not jvm byte code? or it's a different language? | 17:38 |
| MohammadAG | wall[e], starting the UI from scratch might be easier | 17:38 |
| MohammadAG | and faster | 17:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it has androidisms all over the place aiui | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | android != linux | 17:38 |
| MohammadAG | it has cupcakes too | 17:39 |
| BCMM | android is a fork of the linux kernel | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ff | 17:39 |
| infobot | well, ff is even in dutch, or fork&fsck, or or Android | 17:39 |
| MohammadAG | just like maemo's usb host driver | 17:39 |
| BCMM | due to making too many somewhat odd changes that upstream doesn't want to incorporate | 17:39 |
| wall[e] | interesting | 17:40 |
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| wall[e] | so their vm won't even run on linux kernel? | 17:40 |
| MohammadAG | the android port on maemo needs it own kernel so... | 17:40 |
| wall[e] | or maemo could run on android kernel | 17:41 |
| wall[e] | may be easier that way! | 17:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oh yeah, implement a VM in dalvik, to run maemo inside XP | 17:41 |
| wall[e] | heh | 17:42 |
| wall[e] | dalvik is built-in to android kernel? | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | on a i7 @ 3GHz it might even run | 17:42 |
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| BCMM | android disturbs me slightly | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | what about an i5 @ 2.80 :P | 17:43 |
| BCMM | feels a little like "embrace, extend, extinguish" | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | reminds me of Harmattan | 17:43 |
| wall[e] | like mapping dalvik instruction into text or? | 17:44 |
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| * wall[e] wonders why they need to do such thing. | 17:44 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe they had no clue? | 17:44 |
| MohammadAG | cupcakes don't come cheap | 17:44 |
| wall[e] | (text vs data) | 17:44 |
| MohammadAG | or that | 17:44 |
| MohammadAG | xD | 17:44 |
| wall[e] | doubt google engineers are lame | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~nuke Android | 17:45 |
| * infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Android ... B☢☢M! | 17:45 | |
| wall[e] | nice! | 17:45 |
| wall[e] | the OO part is so cool | 17:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, it's "nuke", not "bomb" | 17:46 |
| * MohammadAG connects his USB javelin | 17:46 | |
| DocScrutinizer | ~bomb Android | 17:46 |
| * infobot drops a humongous exploding nuke on Android | 17:46 | |
| wall[e] | may be poook with biohazard icon | 17:46 |
| * MohammadAG uses DocScrutinizer's IP as the coordinates | 17:47 | |
| wall[e] | plague command whatever | 17:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | infobot, I told you NOT to escalate to nuklear weapons on every small strike! | 17:47 |
| infobot | You told you NOT to escalate to nuklear weapons on every small strike!? | 17:47 |
| * wall[e] loooks for something actually useful to do. | 17:47 | |
| MohammadAG | smartass bot | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | girls! :-/ | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~attack Android | 17:48 |
| * infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Android | 17:48 | |
| MohammadAG | poor droid | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wall[e]: good at C? | 17:50 |
| Dima_Sharihin | Oooh... Pure C... | 17:50 |
| wall[e] | DocScrutinizer, quite. | 17:52 |
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| wall[e] | but only code in objective-c these days | 17:53 |
| wall[e] | on anything that isn't apple | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | wall[e]: then help to dissect http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/usb/musb/* and maybe prepare a overview of which function is called by which other function, in which sourcefile they live etc | 17:53 |
| wall[e] | ah | 17:53 |
| Dima_Sharihin | wall[e], are you an Apple IPhone adept? | 17:53 |
| wall[e] | no, a gnustep core dev | 17:54 |
| wall[e] | and i refuse to touch any apple hardware | 17:54 |
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| Dima_Sharihin | Yeah. I had touched an IPhone. It's something strangy >_< | 17:55 |
| wall[e] | i can't wait to spit on its grave and yell android at its face | 17:56 |
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| BCMM | infobot is female? | 17:59 |
| * infobot confuses all the nearby males | 17:59 | |
| BCMM | hah | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 17:59 |
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| ZogG_N900 | hey | 18:01 |
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| BCMM | g'day | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 18:02 |
| ZogG_N900 | it would be nice to hear some feedback on my brainstorm about repos on talks | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | there's a bb5 in the n8x0? | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm quite sure n810w has one | 18:02 |
| MohammadAG | w? | 18:02 |
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| BCMM | anybody used the knots2 server on linux? | 18:03 |
| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, maybe you ) | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | err? | 18:04 |
| ZogG_N900 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=671747 | 18:05 |
| BCMM | it says that VLC fails to start, which is presumably because it passes options that my version of VLC doesn't understand | 18:05 |
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| Rabidus | Ei kiirehdittäis ollenkaan ja oltais rauhassa avan | 18:09 |
| Rabidus | kun lämmin lumi peittää maan. mentäis sitä katsomaan | 18:09 |
| Rabidus | oops, wrong channel :D | 18:09 |
| Rabidus | sry | 18:09 |
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| Dima_Sharihin | Rabidus, чего ты там говорил, а??? | 18:10 |
| Rabidus | :p | 18:10 |
| crashanddie | Rabidus & Dima_Sharihin: please keep the channel English where possible | 18:10 |
| Dima_Sharihin | crashanddie, sorry. That was a little mistake =) | 18:10 |
| Rabidus | my mistake | 18:11 |
| ZogG_N900 | Dima_Sharihin, haha. privet | 18:11 |
| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, i think i sent wrong link | 18:11 |
| Dima_Sharihin | ZogG, #maemo is a english-language channel. =) | 18:11 |
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| ZogG_N900 | anyway look for brainstorm mirrors for repos thread | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | bgovno | 18:11 |
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| ZogG_N900 | Dima_Sharihin, ow, really? | 18:12 |
| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, say wut? | 18:12 |
| ZogG_N900 | govno* | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | no | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | bs | 18:12 |
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| ZogG_N900 | bs ? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_N900: my first reaction to your thread is "please learn what the enter button does on your keyboard" | 18:15 |
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| MohammadAG | bullshit ;) | 18:15 |
| MohammadAG | @ ZogG_N900 | 18:16 |
| Dima_Sharihin | Stskeeps, or "please see what the layout selected on your keyboard" | 18:16 |
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| RST38h | I am giving up...GLES just does not work =( | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | well, or you are not doing it right | 18:31 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: At this point, I have pretty much eliminated this possibility | 18:32 |
| RST38h | Unless, of course, PSX4All is doing something funny between my GLES accesses | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | well, how come everything else is working on the device then? :P | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | gles1 or gles2? | 18:32 |
| RST38h | gles1 | 18:33 |
| RST38h | I have no idea, sorry | 18:33 |
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| RST38h | glDrawArrays() fails | 18:37 |
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| RST38h | coredumps even | 18:37 |
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| ZogG_N900 | Stskeeps, anyway | 18:42 |
| ZogG_N900 | how is idea itself? | 18:42 |
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| ZogG_N900 | MohammadAG, so you say it's bullshit? | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | yes, bgovno is bshit | 18:44 |
| * MohammadAG wonders if he should reply http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52689&page=2 | 18:45 | |
| ZogG_N900 | i mean thread | 18:45 |
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| MohammadAG | no, you said this is an english only channel | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 18:45 |
| ZogG_N900 | i didn't | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | idk :p | 18:46 |
| ZogG_N900 | meh | 18:46 |
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| Stskeeps | ZogG: not unknown, but apt not supporting redirects is a problem | 18:49 |
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| b0unc3 | hello | 18:49 |
| b0unc3 | is there any way to get my app running in fullscreen ? | 18:50 |
| Gh0sty | anyone have good experience with a particular brand of bluetooth earpiece? | 18:51 |
| Gh0sty | my cheap one just sucks, people say it's too silent, it disconnects regularly and stuff :( | 18:53 |
| RST38h | Ahha, found it! | 18:53 |
| RST38h | Looks like SDL_gles is somewhat screwed up | 18:53 |
| RST38h | MohammadAK: Watch that thread removed or moved to offtopic... =) | 18:54 |
| MohammadAG | AK as in AK-47? | 18:55 |
| RST38h | AK as in typo | 18:56 |
| MohammadAG | did you just say i'm a terrorist? | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | (:p) | 18:57 |
| FredrIQ | python seems to take up a very big amount of rootfs memory, is that normal? | 18:57 |
| RST38h | MohammadAG: No. I said you are a typo. | 18:58 |
| RST38h | =) | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | racist! (:p) | 18:58 |
| RST38h | grammar nazi! | 18:59 |
| FredrIQ | locale takes 28M, python2.5 21M | 18:59 |
| FredrIQ | is that normal? | 18:59 |
| RST38h | python also makes mess of your mounting table | 18:59 |
| RST38h | and yes, it is normal | 18:59 |
| FredrIQ | yes | 18:59 |
| FredrIQ | i've seen that lol | 19:00 |
| FredrIQ | anyway, ok | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, RACIST! | 19:00 |
| * MohammadAG sends an unarmed missile to RST38h | 19:01 | |
| * RST38h considers the next move: should he claim MohammadAG is a religious fanatic, a race traitor, or a member of ZOG? | 19:01 | |
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| MohammadAG | ZOG? | 19:01 |
| RST38h | google it | 19:01 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 19:02 |
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| * RST38h mines the malodorous depths of his refrigerator | 19:08 | |
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| RST38h | (that should hurt either way, I guess) | 19:09 |
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| FredrIQ | where can i find the files for the icons in "More..."? | 19:11 |
| FredrIQ | so i can add own/modify them/whatever | 19:11 |
| MohammadAG | sigh | 19:12 |
| MohammadAG | /usr/share/applications/hildon/ | 19:12 |
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| Dima_Sharihin | /usr/share/icons? | 19:16 |
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| MohammadAG | i think he was referring to the .desktop files | 19:17 |
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| wall[e] | what kind of modification? raster way? | 19:20 |
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| wall[e] | or logical way? | 19:21 |
| wall[e] | or both way? | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | the .desktop files define the logical properties (which app to start etc) and hold a pointer to an icon image file | 19:23 |
| * wall[e] ponders a moment and think may be it's good to have all apps running in a single process. | 19:24 | |
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| wall[e] | as threads | 19:24 |
| PhonicUK | hey all | 19:24 |
| wall[e] | i should design my next mobile os that way... | 19:25 |
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| SpeedEvil | wall[e]: naah | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | wall[e]: aiui the desktop widgets are working that way | 19:25 |
| SpeedEvil | wall[e]: Just put the X server in busybox | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite nasty side effects | 19:25 |
| wall[e] | need very good frameworks underneath | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's called OS :-P | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | something like cocoa binding to garantee absolute encapsulation | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | overflow will kill the whole thing though. | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | and impossible to debug | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | yeh, let's make it that way. | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | XD | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | like desktop widgets :-P | 19:26 |
| wall[e] | strange design, i'd say | 19:27 |
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| wall[e] | but it allow object to register services easily w/o going into networking layer like dbus etc | 19:27 |
| RST38h | Ok, how do I reposition SDL_GLES window to show polygons in the 0,0-800,480 range? | 19:28 |
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| RST38h | ! | 19:29 |
| RST38h | heya javispedro | 19:29 |
| javispedro | hello all | 19:29 |
| RST38h | javispedro: how do I make gles1 show me 0,0-800,480 rectangle? | 19:29 |
| javispedro | do you want to show a texture I guess? | 19:29 |
| javispedro | use glDrawTexi | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, here's your elected guy | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | hey javispedro | 19:30 |
| crashanddie | yo javispedro | 19:31 |
| javispedro | uh. hello. | 19:31 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: wrt to ICD2, have you seen a demo of the implementation somewhere? | 19:31 |
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| javispedro | nope | 19:31 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: I've had a quick look at the ICD2 QT demo, and stuff like that, but the doc is really quite opaque | 19:31 |
| javispedro | Qt demo? O.o | 19:32 |
| commo | k, i hope this is the right place to ask a maemo-related question... i'm trying to set up a wpa-ttls connection on my n900 using the connection-wizard. the network requires a certificate, but the wizard doesn't allow me to select one. it does ask me for a certificate, i simply don't get to pick a file. is there a way to configure my wireless connection using a config-file? isn't there something like a wpa_supplicant.conf on maemo? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | crashanddie: what are you talking about? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:32 |
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| javispedro | crashanddie: I knew this was a bit overkill.... | 19:32 |
| RST38h | javispedro: No, I just want my view to cover the 0,0-800,480 space | 19:32 |
| RST38h | javispedro: no textures, just polygons | 19:33 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: it isn't overkill, it's the right way to do it | 19:33 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Qt_for_Maemo:_ICD2_Example | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | that just talks to it, you want a plugin/connect? | 19:34 |
| javispedro | nope -- http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/icd2/group__srv__provider__api.html | 19:34 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps^^ | 19:34 |
| javispedro | do you know of an existing implementation of that, or a non-as-complex way to do it? | 19:35 |
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| wall[e] | othox? | 19:35 |
| wall[e] | or | 19:35 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps: Trying to implement a service provider module for ICD2, so that I can detect if a network is from a specific provider, and then set it in "limited connectivity" state until openssl/wget (or curl, to keep luke-jr happy) logs you in to the service | 19:35 |
| wall[e] | or perspective? | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | no idea sorry | 19:36 |
| crashanddie | wall[e]: what are you on about? | 19:36 |
| wall[e] | opengl | 19:36 |
| javispedro | crashanddie: that sample uses d-bus, but according to that doc you need to create a C plugin | 19:37 |
| wall[e] | orthographics | 19:37 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: that's why I said it doesn't make much sense to me :P | 19:37 |
| javispedro | crashanddie: you might want to ask Patrik, he usually reads the mailing lists and has been posting icd2 network module samples (which a few years ago where mostly sadly lacking) | 19:37 |
| crashanddie | wall[e]: please don't just shout words, try to be coherent, also prepend the nickname of the person you're talking to | 19:37 |
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| crashanddie | javispedro: Patrik? | 19:38 |
| ZogG | <MohammadAG> ZOG? >( | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | patrik flykt | 19:38 |
| crashanddie | k, thanks | 19:38 |
| wall[e] | crashanddie, i was lagged | 19:38 |
| wall[e] | raining and thunder | 19:38 |
| javispedro | crashanddie: yep, his email is on /usr/include/icd2/*.h | 19:38 |
| javispedro | er.. | 19:38 |
| javispedro | /usr/include/icd/<any file>.h | 19:38 |
| crashanddie | javispedro: good, will look for it | 19:38 |
| crashanddie | thanks for the info | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1890 <- excellent | 19:39 |
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| wall[e] | crashanddie, w/c | 19:39 |
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| Dima_Sharihin | Stskeeps, omg. It's dangerous for brain | 19:40 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps: hehe | 19:40 |
| crashanddie | anyway, going to play taxi for the family, 'later all | 19:40 |
| javispedro | cya crashanddie | 19:41 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: so do you want to draw a rectangle covering the entire view as per default camera, projections, etc.? | 19:41 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: GLES does not have QUADS, so you have to use two triangles. | 19:42 |
| javispedro | RST38h: also, consider getting package nehegles from extras, as it contains some ports of desktop GL samples to GLES. | 19:42 |
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| javispedro | (if what you're asking instead is to configure the viewport -- the area where stuff is drawn -- sdl_gles should take care of it; unless you have resized the window interactively (for ex. fullscreen n810 button), in which case you should call SDL_GLES_SetVideoMode()). | 19:44 |
| * DocScrutinizer shakes head on reading http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/KIS001587_-_VoIP_Audio_Service_API:_DTMF_tones_cannot_be_played_to_telephony_uplink_in_S60_3rd_Edition,_FP2 , points to Out-of-band DTMF (SIP INFO) and RFC 2833 DTMF events | 19:45 | |
| Dima_Sharihin | http://www.ixbt.com/short/images/2010/May/HP_Labs_Farm_Waste_Power_Flow_Chart_300dpi_Final_002.jpg <-lol | 19:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | Do libraries from packages get auto-promoted if the main app gets promoted? | 19:47 |
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| wall[e] | crashanddie, how about if you don't get a clue, it isn't for you? | 19:49 |
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| javispedro | SpeedEvil: yes. | 19:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Thanks. | 19:50 |
| wall[e] | this laggged | 19:50 |
| * SpeedEvil ponders thumbing up all of the libraries in extras-devel that he uses. :) | 19:50 | |
| javispedro | if you can promote a library it's most probably a bug | 19:51 |
| javispedro | libraries should be outside of the user/ category | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: (you have to use two triangles) lmao | 19:51 |
| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/repository/qa/all/fremantle_extras-testing/ | 19:52 |
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| javispedro | SpeedEvil, ah, you clicked on "all packages" =) | 19:54 |
| javispedro | you scared me for a moment :) | 19:55 |
| SpeedEvil | I was - after doing some packagetesting - idly wondering about doing silly stuff. | 19:55 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: I do not quite understand one thing: does GLES always draw stuff in -1,-1..1,1 range? | 20:01 |
| RST38h | javispedro: or can I make it draw things in some other range? | 20:02 |
| javispedro | yes, same as desktop GL | 20:02 |
| RST38h | but isn't it possible to make it scale? | 20:02 |
| javispedro | use a linear operator | 20:02 |
| RST38h | ? | 20:02 |
| javispedro | glScalef(x,y,z) | 20:02 |
| RST38h | ah! | 20:03 |
| RST38h | thanks | 20:03 |
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| * RST38h cackles evilly, fully expecting a Sony logo | 20:04 | |
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| * javispedro remembers the Sony logo "music" | 20:04 | |
| javispedro | or noise. | 20:04 |
| RST38h | nope, does not work | 20:05 |
| javispedro | if you're going into gles dev I really suggest trying this a bit outside of any other bigger project, as it's way too easy to mess the rendering (and get entirely black screens, etc.) | 20:06 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: I have got enough printf()s to print a Bible. | 20:07 |
| RST38h | javispedro: So, lack of debug output is not a problem =) | 20:08 |
| javispedro | you're printf() pixels also? =) | 20:08 |
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| * javispedro once had to resort to that while debugging clutter... hmpf. | 20:09 | |
| Dima_Sharihin | RST38h, printing data from /dev/urandom seems to be funnier | 20:09 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: not pixels, but I am printing every single triangle | 20:11 |
| ZogG | frals, \o/ | 20:11 |
| wall[e] | logically speaking you just assume bible is funny. | 20:11 |
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| mintux | I installed lighthttpd and create a test.php but it want to downloads . it doesn't install php itself ? | 20:11 |
| ZogG | "frals : made the mms notification pretty! yey \o/" | 20:11 |
| plastun | Hello! how to stop animation circle in my app title bar? | 20:12 |
| javispedro | plastun: how are you showing it? | 20:12 |
| javispedro | using Qt, Gtk+, an Xlib atom... ? :) | 20:13 |
| plastun | using hildon.hildon_banner_show_progress | 20:13 |
| javispedro | pygtk, I see | 20:13 |
| javispedro | I think that you have to destroy the banner and reshow it. | 20:14 |
| javispedro | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/hildon/HildonBanner.html#hildon-banner-show-progress | 20:14 |
| frals | plastun: call same function again and change the 0 to 1 or vice versa afaik | 20:15 |
| plastun | ok, I'll try. Thanks | 20:15 |
| RST38h | OMG I GOT IT | 20:15 |
| javispedro | RST38h: a sony logo, or two full screen sized triangles? =) | 20:15 |
| RST38h | PSX logo | 20:15 |
| RST38h | a few more prayers to the Tentacled One, a quick sacrifice, and I am done | 20:16 |
| frals | plastun: nvm, thats when using hildon.hildon_gtk_window_set_progress_indicator | 20:16 |
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| plastun | yes, I see | 20:16 |
| javispedro | frals: actually fremantle may call the latter when using hildon_banner_show_progress, not tested that though. | 20:16 |
| javispedro | (so dunno) | 20:16 |
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| mikki-kun | hm... which of the "kernel-powers" is the "safe one"? i heard that one specific version should be "featurefree" and the others have some random features like "ooops, sorry to interrupt you, but we're now going into a reboot-cycle" | 20:23 |
| javispedro | I guess the one in extras? even though the only "safe" kernel is the nokia-blessed one. | 20:24 |
| RST38h | javispedro: any idea what u/v values would mean in PSX? | 20:24 |
| RST38h | javispedro: (there are polygons with points given as x,y,u,v) | 20:24 |
| javispedro | RST38h: in a gl context u v are usually 2d coordinates in a texture | 20:25 |
| javispedro | hum. | 20:25 |
| javispedro | never used nor coded for a psx :S | 20:25 |
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| mikki-kun | javispedro: so i should turn off testing and devel, load the kernel and that should give me the safest 'not nokia' kernel, right? | 20:25 |
| javispedro | mikki-kun: yes....... | 20:26 |
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| mikki-kun | ok... cause in easy-deb i need a lil more extra-power than the stock 600 can give me... | 20:26 |
| javispedro | voids warranty | 20:26 |
| mintux | the lighhttpd in maemo is same on pc ?? my mind is I configure it like on pc ( I need to install php module for it ) | 20:27 |
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| Dima_Sharihin | mintux, by the default, maemo applications is cutted versions of PC ones | 20:27 |
| RST38h | javispedro: ah that must be it | 20:27 |
| mikki-kun | javispedro: i know... but at certain times i need a lil extra from the cpu... i'll switch it back when i know i am not heavily using the cpu to default values | 20:28 |
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| RST38h | ok, got colors right | 20:28 |
| RST38h | now need to flip picture vertically | 20:29 |
| javispedro | glScale(1, -1, 1) or sth like that | 20:29 |
| RST38h | yes but I should also translate it properly | 20:31 |
| RST38h | testing | 20:31 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: this god of yours is quite interesting and benevolent. I'm gonna convert one of those days. | 20:33 |
| RST38h | Well, although I am only getting the PSX logo, it seems to run waaaay faster than the current PSX4All | 20:33 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: A moment, Lord Dunsany has got a relevant quote | 20:34 |
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| mintux | is there any auto complete source editor with highlight syntax for maemo ? | 20:42 |
| Appiah | vim | 20:42 |
| Macer | hm | 20:42 |
| Macer | wonder if gftp is out of dev | 20:42 |
| mikki-kun | Macer: gftp is buggy (at least it wasn't working until three days ago when i tried it... scrolling was impossible) | 20:43 |
| wall[e] | why edit in maemo? | 20:43 |
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| wall[e] | i just wonder. | 20:43 |
| RST38h | javispedro: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.horrormasters.com%2FText%2Fa1662.pdf&ei=JGn5S7-0GZaWOLjZwZUM&usg=AFQjCNEx5A32K2LExZJT-ac2By2wQ5r4nA&sig2=PfT3b4iPJvQ_3Y-V0-uEmQ | 20:43 |
| RST38h | (sorry) | 20:44 |
| mintux | vim is hard to work because command line | 20:44 |
| wall[e] | is there qemacs ? | 20:44 |
| javispedro | what, a 3 page quote? :P | 20:44 |
| wall[e] | how was that? | 20:44 |
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| mintux | qemacs is command line too | 20:45 |
| wall[e] | ah i thought it was in qt | 20:45 |
| RST38h | javispedro: 2nd page | 20:45 |
| wall[e] | actually it's quick | 20:45 |
| RST38h | javispedro: was too long to quote | 20:45 |
| RST38h | ok, I finally killed the n900 | 20:45 |
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| mintux | and another question is what is characters of < and > on keyboard ? | 20:46 |
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| mintux | very important characters for programing | 20:47 |
| wall[e] | /| Sym | 20:47 |
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| wall[e] | alt-sym | 20:48 |
| Macer | mikki-kun: yeah. i saw that with the dev ver | 20:48 |
| wall[e] | /^ | 20:48 |
| Macer | i havent tried it in a while. i was hoping it was fixed | 20:48 |
| * wall[e] tries his best. | 20:48 | |
| wall[e] | for <> | 20:49 |
| mintux | wall[e]: doesn't work Sym+/ ? | 20:49 |
| wall[e] | no | 20:49 |
| wall[e] | it's alt | 20:49 |
| wall[e] | looks kinda like |/_ | 20:49 |
| wall[e] | but rotate 180 degree | 20:50 |
| mintux | alt between ctrl and shift? | 20:50 |
| wall[e] | yes | 20:50 |
| wall[e] | oh, that was much better explaination | 20:50 |
| wall[e] | thanks! | 20:50 |
| mintux | I press alt+v but it types / | 20:50 |
| wall[e] | |/_ + Sym | 20:50 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: *sigh* | 20:50 |
| timeless_mbp | i just noticed my sudoers file is out of date | 20:51 |
| mintux | |/_ + Sym+/ = < ? | 20:51 |
| wall[e] | mintux, no, it brings up table | 20:51 |
| tybollt_ | \o/ | 20:51 |
| mintux | it works every where ? | 20:51 |
| wall[e] | just /|\ + Sym | 20:52 |
| mintux | im in pygtkeditor | 20:52 |
| mintux | got ir | 20:52 |
| mintux | got | 20:52 |
| mintux | it | 20:52 |
| mintux | so I should press on screen | 20:52 |
| wall[e] | infrared can be used to control tv | 20:52 |
| wall[e] | ir = infrared | 20:52 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; that ain't good, noticed the binary you mentioned for update the language files don't exist on my n900 | 20:53 |
| wall[e] | if you use xterminal | 20:53 |
| wall[e] | you can have <> in tool bar | 20:53 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: hrm, which flavor of my files do you have in /usr/sbin ? | 20:53 |
| timeless_mbp | dpkg -l *en*1 | 20:53 |
| mintux | I think why < and > it's not in keyboard and zxc (alt ) unusable is on keyboard | 20:53 |
| timeless_mbp | then dpkg -L <that> |grep /usr/sbin | 20:53 |
| mintux | the first negative point for n900 | 20:54 |
| wall[e] | mintux, you can remap hw keyboard | 20:54 |
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| mintux | need special program | 20:54 |
| wall[e] | replace pound and euro | 20:54 |
| mintux | how can I do that ? | 20:55 |
| wall[e] | should be defined in some xkb file | 20:55 |
| wall[e] | hmmmm | 20:55 |
| wall[e] | russian did it | 20:55 |
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| wall[e] | i never try | 20:56 |
| mintux | ok | 20:56 |
| wall[e] | their package call xkb ru something | 20:56 |
| wall[e] | google should help | 20:56 |
| wall[e] | i think i saw an article or two | 20:57 |
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| wall[e] | go dig! | 20:57 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; don't seem to get the full package name with -l, so I can't do the -L | 20:58 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: use |cat | 20:58 |
| timeless_mbp | or shrink your font size | 20:58 |
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| Trizt | timeless_mbp; cat worked, shrinking fonts didn't. The only one is /usr/bin/pick-locale-engb | 21:00 |
| mintux | is it possible to define socket connection proxy for browser? | 21:00 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: /usr/sbin not /usr/bin | 21:00 |
| timeless_mbp | mintux: do you mean "SOCKS"? | 21:01 |
| mintux | yep | 21:01 |
| timeless_mbp | for a session, http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Network. | 21:03 |
| timeless_mbp | the socks option will do what you want | 21:03 |
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| mintux | connect to my server and use that connection . in my location many of site's are blocked | 21:03 |
| Trizt | timeless; sorry, will check the right one.. nothing, empty | 21:03 |
| timeless_mbp | however, be aware that per system "Requirements" the preference to use socks instead of the other proxy kinds will almost certainly get trashed each time you start the browser (roughly boot the n900) | 21:04 |
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| timeless_mbp | Trizt: surely there's *something* in /usr/sbin that's mine?! | 21:04 |
| * timeless_mbp frowns | 21:04 | |
| timeless_mbp | can you pastebin the dpkg -l output? | 21:04 |
| * timeless_mbp wonders which versions of things Trizt has | 21:04 | |
| mintux | is it possible to define different profile for firefox? | 21:04 |
| Trizt | one moment | 21:04 |
| RST38h | javispedro: One more stupid question: how do I clear all currently drawn polygons? | 21:05 |
| javispedro | glClear | 21:05 |
| RST38h | ah it is glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT); | 21:05 |
| RST38h | thanks | 21:05 |
| javispedro | glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT) if you're not using depth testing | 21:05 |
| javispedro | yep | 21:05 |
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| mintux | timeless_mbp im in that page but I could not open that option when I click on it just my screen zoom and back | 21:06 |
| timeless_mbp | mintux: um | 21:07 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm not tech support | 21:07 |
| timeless_mbp | and you aren't paying me enough | 21:07 |
| timeless_mbp | the page has the info you need | 21:07 |
| timeless_mbp | go learn how ot use the browser | 21:07 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; http://pastebin.com/aCSALLjV | 21:07 |
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| timeless_mbp | s/ot/to/ | 21:07 |
| infobot | timeless_mbp meant: go learn how to use the browser | 21:07 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; I notice there are double packages installed of some | 21:08 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: eh? the pr11/pr12 thing is expected | 21:08 |
| timeless_mbp | it's how i'm dealing w/ the pr11/pr12 disaster | 21:08 |
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| mintux | timeless_mbp: I know how to use it . and I don't have to you answer me . but in the firefox in maemo click on page defined zoom . and I don't know how to select a text on this browser also | 21:08 |
| wall[e] | i'd call that pms | 21:08 |
| timeless_mbp | mintux: well go learn? | 21:08 |
| timeless_mbp | there's an entire tutorial | 21:09 |
| mintux | im trying now | 21:09 |
| wall[e] | j/k | 21:09 |
| timeless_mbp | which iirc is linked from the maemo screens | 21:09 |
| wall[e] | ah this is so distracting | 21:09 |
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| javispedro | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/05/23/154218/First-Pandora-Console-Reaches-Customer | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | while you're at it, please fix 687 INFO("H: host mode\n"); -> 687 INFO("H/h: host mode\n"); | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops, sorry | 21:10 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; okey, I thought it was an artefact from the problems | 21:10 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: btw, what's the name of the host channel again? | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | maemo-hostmode-discussion | 21:11 |
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| timeless_mbp | Trizt: hrm, but you really don't have anything from me in /usr/sbin? | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | thanks | 21:11 |
| timeless_mbp | that's kinda bad :( | 21:11 |
| timeless_mbp | there should be *something* there | 21:11 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: I read your tmo post; I already had seen that | 21:11 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; maybe thats only fro 1.2? | 21:11 |
| Trizt | or you only? | 21:11 |
| timeless_mbp | Trizt: my packages are a bit of a mess, i'm reorganizing again now... | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: you don't think it's a step ahead? | 21:11 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: did nothing. this was pre-egoshin method investigation though | 21:12 |
| Trizt | timeless_mbp; will you drop the 1.1 support as soon as the 1,2 is public? | 21:12 |
| timeless_mbp | no | 21:12 |
| timeless_mbp | my goal is for it to magically work w/o requiring an update | 21:13 |
| timeless_mbp | hence requiring your n900 to pull in the pr12 package even before 1.2 ships | 21:13 |
| timeless_mbp | the exact definition of "magically" is still under development | 21:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | while you're at it, please fix 687 INFO("H: host mode\n"); -> 687 INFO("H/h: host mode\n"); | 21:13 |
| Trizt | :) | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1116 } else if (is_host_enabled(musb)) { | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1117 /* assume ID pin is hard-wired to ground */ | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1118 devctl |= MUSB_DEVCTL_SESSION; | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | Oi! #maemo-hostmode-discussion ! | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | :p | 21:14 |
| javispedro | let's move into it if you wish | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup | 21:14 |
| wall[e] | and it definitely would come shortly after pr1.2 | 21:14 |
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| wall[e] | i seriously should go | 21:15 |
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| Appiah | did I hear hostmode? | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | no | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 21:21 |
| Appiah | =( | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | check the OTG post on tmo | 21:22 |
| mintux | I don't understand it: Swipe finger from the left of the screen (outside of screen), towards right (into the screen) . what the meaning of out of screen | 21:22 |
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| mintux | I press my finger fast just zoom it and out | 21:22 |
| mintux | I want to select a text | 21:23 |
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| Jaffa | Yay for people using the fact the URL isn't what they want, and the technology isn't what they want to actually doing some work. Instead they'll come up with "good ideas" and then moan that they're not done. | 21:24 |
| mintux | I found a movie in youtube for that | 21:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | mintux, the space on the left of the device where there's no screen. | 21:25 |
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| mintux | GeneralAntilles: but the page is open and fill screen | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: mentioning Mer might be a bit of a red cloth ;p | 21:26 |
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| GeneralAntilles | mintux, the part of the device where there is no screen. | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: True, but I'm still proud of the wiki hackery there :) | 21:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, it's Talk. It's SD69. Keep your expectations low and you'll only be a little disappointed. | 21:26 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, when's the issue going up? | 21:26 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: About to publish the doc for editing now :-) | 21:26 |
| mintux | GeneralAntilles: if I zoom out my page there was blank screen beside the page | 21:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | mintux, off screen means off of the part of the device that displays information. | 21:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | So swipe from where there's no screen on the left towards the right of the device. | 21:28 |
| mintux | hmm | 21:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | Where did the UI people put that video that demos the browse use? | 21:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/browse/browser/ | 21:29 |
| infobot | GeneralAntilles meant: Where did the UI people put that video that demos the browser use? | 21:29 |
| timeless_mbp | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32525 ? | 21:29 |
| timeless_mbp | http://www.youtube.com/user/Maemo5UITeam | 21:29 |
| mintux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVMPu83f22g | 21:29 |
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| mintux | we don't have javac for maemo? | 21:34 |
| timeless_mbp | who's "we"? | 21:34 |
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| pupnik | heya.. i ran kismet on the plane and got a wlan beacon at 30000 ft over sweden | 21:38 |
| pupnik | was tracking the gps too _ got a screencast of it for "proof" | 21:38 |
| timeless_mbp | nice | 21:38 |
| pupnik | hows that for strange :) | 21:38 |
| pupnik | but flickr just refused to transcode the N900 screencast | 21:39 |
| timeless_mbp | was it stationary or moving? :) | 21:39 |
| pupnik | i was moving 512 mph | 21:39 |
| lcuk | im guessing the wlan was stationary ;) | 21:39 |
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| SpeedEvil | Or a troll on the plane. | 21:42 |
| lcuk | the pilot giggling with stewardesses | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | or aliens wanting to get into pupnik's brain | 21:45 |
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| lcuk | heh | 21:45 |
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| lcuk | heh Stskeeps that too | 21:46 |
| lcuk | tho im thinking someone with a pringles can aiming it at the plane :D | 21:46 |
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| lcuk | pupnik, how long did the signal last? | 21:46 |
| * timeless_mbp looks for someone familiar w/ /etc/sudoers | 21:46 | |
| pupnik | lcuk: just a beacon - not a single packet iirc | 21:47 |
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| lcuk | ahh pupnik | 21:48 |
| lcuk | timeless_mbp, talk and see if we can solve problem collectively? | 21:49 |
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| timeless_mbp | lcuk: i want to allow: | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | /usr/sbin/my_app foo|bar <anything> | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | i.e. /usr/sbin/my_app foo some things | 21:50 |
| timeless_mbp | /usr/sbin/my_app bar other stuff | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | not: /usr/sbin/my_app blah whatever | 21:51 |
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| lcuk | timeless_mbp, so you want to allow calling your command but with only specific sets of parameters? | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | kinda | 21:54 |
| adeus | script? | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | think of my first thing as a verb | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | i want to enable sudo for a limited set of verbs | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | but an unlimited set of nouns | 21:54 |
| lcuk | was thinking that adeus | 21:54 |
| lcuk | a worker script | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | i could just let it accept anything | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | my goal isn't to encourage random sudo use | 21:55 |
| lcuk | sure, i had the same issue when i was doing cpu boost on 810 | 21:55 |
| lcuk | i ended up just making 3 scripts (for each verb) and sudoing them | 21:55 |
| lcuk | because i couldnt find a way of allowing command with arbritary params | 21:56 |
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| GAN900 | Ah, classy | 22:03 |
| GAN900 | Irrelevant bullshit to put Gadsby down | 22:03 |
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| lcuk | there are a growing band of females willing to bare boobies in the name of pr1.2 | 22:04 |
| GAN900 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=672007#post672007 | 22:04 |
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| GAN900 | lcuk, those aren't "females". | 22:04 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, i saw you created a 2.6.32-...-n8x0 branch. where you pulled it from? | 22:05 |
| lcuk | GAN900, what are they then? | 22:05 |
| pupnik_ | there must be a way to stay on freenode when switching cell towers | 22:05 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: 2.6.33.2 is based off some patches from Stskeeps | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | and termana | 22:05 |
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| luke-jr | slonopotamus: the last few commits are my own | 22:05 |
| lcuk | pupnik_, screen or some other offsite server | 22:05 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, PVRMMapRegisterArea in mmap.c has two incompatible returns (missing &). i don't think that's good. | 22:05 |
| timeless_mbp | GAN900: gah, there's a legal use for 4 dots instead of 3 dots | 22:05 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, oh, so you took his changes as patches? | 22:06 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: it's not meant for mainline merging | 22:06 |
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| luke-jr | right now I just want to make it work | 22:06 |
| pupnik_ | lcuk - not an option when your server goes down and nobody knows how to fix it | 22:06 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: did I mention p54spi works so amazingly well, that I will be very upset if I can't use it because of GPS? :P | 22:06 |
| GAN900 | timeless_mbp, generally I use [...] for quote omissions, too. | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: i'll take a look at it, just not now | 22:07 |
| luke-jr | :) | 22:07 |
| GAN900 | timeless_mbp, but silvermountain is kind of a jackass. | 22:07 |
| luke-jr | p54spi lets me use client mode *and* kismet concurrently | 22:07 |
| GAN900 | lcuk, really fat men. :p | 22:07 |
| luke-jr | and it support PPI | 22:07 |
| timeless_mbp | GAN900: you have those in talk? i don't believe it! | 22:07 |
| GAN900 | pupnik_, proxy | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: i have priorities for a stable meego for n8x0 m0 before i start with more advanced hw support :P | 22:07 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, i see. is it better than linux-omap ~2.6.29 before they broke everything? | 22:07 |
| GAN900 | timeless_mbp, I know, right? | 22:07 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: it has p54spi :p | 22:08 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: I don't have GPS or sound working | 22:08 |
| luke-jr | no clue on Bluetooth | 22:08 |
| Stskeeps | bluetooth works with bc4fw.bin | 22:08 |
| Stskeeps | could scan without issue | 22:08 |
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| slonopotamus | that's low priority | 22:08 |
| lcuk | ewwwww GAN900 | 22:08 |
| luke-jr | GPS is high priority for me | 22:08 |
| luke-jr | my N810 becomes useful if I can do GPS + p54spi | 22:08 |
| lcuk | theres some not very fat pictures in that thread | 22:08 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, charger? | 22:09 |
| pupnik_ | maybe i need to use friends server in server farm thingy | 22:09 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: charger doesn't work with diablo's kernel even, best I can tell | 22:09 |
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| GAN900 | pupnik_, use your home machine? | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | pupnik_: up the gprs timeout? | 22:09 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: btw, I have commits to push when your site is fixed | 22:09 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, err... wut? how you charge then? | 22:09 |
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| slonopotamus | luke-jr, it's fixed | 22:09 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr, temporary failure | 22:09 |
| pupnik_ | heheh | 22:09 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: I keep it on AC power constantly | 22:10 |
| pupnik_ | Stskeeps: i saw your comment on that but didnt find where to change timeout | 22:10 |
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| Stskeeps | luke-jr: .. that is charging | 22:10 |
| luke-jr | if I boot Maemo, it seems to charge | 22:10 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: if I unplug it, BME forces an immediate halt | 22:10 |
| pupnik_ | home machine is dead.. am traveling back | 22:10 |
| GAN900 | pupnik_, ah. | 22:11 |
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| Hibernica | If N810 screen isn't working, how likely is a reflash to help? | 22:13 |
| MiXu- | Not likely I'd say. But there's not much to lose is there? | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: worn battery? | 22:15 |
| * timeless_mbp sighs | 22:15 | |
| * timeless_mbp needs help w/ predepends | 22:15 | |
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| timeless_mbp | ok, stupid drunken dev error :( | 22:17 |
| MiXu- | Damn. The battery life of X6 makes me appreciate Symbian again. I charged it on tuesday and it still has 5/7 bars of battery left. | 22:17 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: Maemo seems to charge it | 22:17 |
| MiXu- | I've listened to some music and used sportstracker for about an hour. | 22:17 |
| Hibernica | Well MiXu-, I can still do a few things as it is. (Daemons checking my mail and FB chat). If flashing fails because it requires touchscreen presses, I have less than now. | 22:17 |
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| * timeless_mbp gets things installed! | 22:19 | |
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| * MiXu- likes Nokia Qt SDK Beta + N900 <3 | 22:23 | |
| MiXu- | I write Qt code on my windows desktop pc and with one click I get it compiled and run in N900 <3 | 22:24 |
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| Jaffa | MiXu-: Going to enter http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53112? | 22:26 |
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| * timeless_mbp frowns | 22:30 | |
| timeless_mbp | how does pre-depends work exactly? | 22:30 |
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| timeless_mbp | if i do dpkg -i *.deb | 22:30 |
| timeless_mbp | and one of my debs predepends on another, is it supposed to fail? | 22:30 |
| timeless_mbp | and will 'apt' also fail? | 22:30 |
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| * Arkenoi wonders if there will be newer DtG or Maemo version is just abandoned | 22:37 | |
| lcuk | huh timeless_mbp i would expect it not to start if it cannot gather all the dependencies for hte command line specified | 22:39 |
| timeless_mbp | lcuk: the dependencies are available _on_ the commandline | 22:39 |
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| lcuk | mmm timeless_mbp | 22:42 |
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| * lcuk removes a tonne of packages | 22:43 | |
| lcuk | timeless_mbp, yes | 22:45 |
| lcuk | removed all liq* packages | 22:45 |
| lcuk | dpkg -i liqtime.deb | 22:45 |
| lcuk | fails | 22:45 |
| lcuk | dpkg -i liqtime.deb libliqbase1.deb | 22:45 |
| lcuk | is ok | 22:45 |
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| mintux | what is Gregale repository ? | 23:01 |
| SpeedEvil | The repository of gregale? | 23:01 |
| MohammadAG | old OS afaik | 23:01 |
| MohammadAG | batt low | 23:02 |
| mintux | ow | 23:02 |
| * MohammadAG wonders if he should kill bme | 23:02 | |
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| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_2-2-gregale/ | 23:02 |
| mintux | so for sdk just import diablo ? | 23:02 |
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| MohammadAG | what was maemo 1 called? | 23:02 |
| mintux | I need c++ compiler | 23:02 |
| MohammadAG | oh nvm | 23:02 |
| MohammadAG | internet tablet os | 23:02 |
| mintux | hmm extras is for maemo5 ? | 23:03 |
| rdorsch | where can I configure in the N900 to go do not automatically a packet data connection, if a cell phone data network is available? | 23:03 |
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| mintux | oh I got it | 23:03 |
| rdorsch | I think I enabled it sometime ago to do that automatically but I cannot find anymore where to disable | 23:03 |
| SpeedEvil | rdorsch: Settings -> internet -> 'always ask' | 23:04 |
| mintux | how can I change phyical keyboard map ? I just replaced two unusable character by < and > | 23:05 |
| timeless_mbp | or wifi :) | 23:05 |
| timeless_mbp | mintux: roughly the same way you would on any linux... | 23:05 |
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| rdorsch | SpeedEvil: I must be blind (I have a localized N900)....Can it be "Internet connections" or is that a separate entry? | 23:06 |
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| timeless_mbp | rdorsch: yes | 23:06 |
| timeless_mbp | but no one pays attn to the nokia labels | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | they're junk | 23:07 |
| mintux | can I install gcc from diablo repository ? | 23:07 |
| rdorsch | In internet connections I see only "automatically switch to WLAN if avalable" | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | on mine it says 'Networking' | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | or something | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | rdorsch: there's a drop down | 23:07 |
| rdorsch | I have it... | 23:07 |
| rdorsch | many thanks | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | which lets you pick WiFi, Any, or None | 23:07 |
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| RST38h | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320258/ <== kinda expected this to be fun, but the word "Documentary" sounds fishy | 23:07 |
| timeless_mbp | the exact strings aren't worth remembering | 23:07 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, why are there no deities listed in the credits | 23:09 |
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| MohammadAG | small battery clip on the end of the cover broke off | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | cover doesn't squeek or anything, but i'm not impressed | 23:09 |
| RST38h | lcuk: it is one of those History Channel documentaries where all events are reenacted | 23:09 |
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| RST38h | Mohammad: it does not look very good to begin with, so no wonder | 23:10 |
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| MohammadAG | RST38h, not the best build quality | 23:10 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, eep | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | but it's better than the N97's | 23:11 |
| RST38h | more like a design problem | 23:11 |
| RST38h | thin, long pin-like thing | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | more like a "someone needs to start thinking" problem | 23:11 |
| lcuk | its never even come close to breaking for me :S | 23:11 |
| RST38h | gotta break | 23:11 |
| * lcuk just shoves stylus into the fingernail slot and pops cover | 23:11 | |
| Arkenoi | RST38h, is it on piratebay? | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, i swap batteries a lot | 23:12 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: what? | 23:12 |
| frals | bah, my ctrl key is getting retardedly bright now the paint is almost gone :( | 23:12 |
| * SpeedEvil also has some paint missing. | 23:12 | |
| RST38h | frals: too much gaming? | 23:12 |
| lcuk | frals, pupnik has worn through some of his | 23:12 |
| SpeedEvil | blue here | 23:12 |
| lcuk | he has sandpaper fingers | 23:12 |
| SpeedEvil | I tend to hit blue with thumbnails I think | 23:12 |
| frals | i dont even use ctrl that much! | 23:13 |
| Arkenoi | RST38h, the movie | 23:13 |
| lcuk | frals, we know you have no ctrl | 23:13 |
| * frals trouts lcuk | 23:13 | |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: tonight on TB3, at 2:30 | 23:13 |
| * lcuk ucks | 23:13 | |
| lcuk | ducks even | 23:13 |
| RST38h | Arkenoi: Not worth watching | 23:13 |
| Arkenoi | RST38h, don't have TV receiver, i'd better download it | 23:13 |
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| lcuk | frals, had a strange afternoon | 23:14 |
| lcuk | went out feeding ducks with tracy n jake | 23:14 |
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| RST38h | Arkenoi: better get Dr Who | 23:14 |
| lcuk | and when we got back, found luke trapped in overturned car. had to be cut out!! http://liqbase.net/luke.birkett.car.crash.stuck.cut.out.20100523_015.jpg | 23:14 |
| frals | ye lol lcuk saw on twitter | 23:14 |
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| lcuk | its flying around facebook atm too | 23:15 |
| lcuk | lukes mates found the pic | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, how many bottles are you down to :P | 23:15 |
| lcuk | his phone hasnt stopped beepin | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | silent ftw | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 23:15 |
| RST38h | "China based company" now peddles itself as "iPhone developer" | 23:15 |
| RST38h | WTF is the reason for this spam? | 23:16 |
| Proteous | don't know, but stop spaming us in there with it! | 23:16 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, a few less | 23:17 |
| GAN900 | Ah, love it, Docs comes up Japanese for me about 50% of the time. | 23:17 |
| RST38h | it is trying to tell you something | 23:17 |
| frals | lcuk: :D | 23:17 |
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| lcuk | frals, did you see the other tale about revdkathy stuck in a bush with her legs in the air | 23:19 |
| * lcuk was laughin hard | 23:19 | |
| frals | lcuk: yeah :D | 23:19 |
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| mintux | MohammadAG: do we have c++ compiler for maemo . I find this page and im doing that steps do you accept it ? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=352855&postcount=19 | 23:21 |
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| lcuk | mintux, sure we have a c++ compiler | 23:22 |
| RST38h | <sleep> | 23:23 |
| lcuk | that will fit happily on your normal device too, but you will have most trouble fitting all the -dev libraries and headers etc | 23:23 |
| frals | http://mms.frals.se/notify/Screenshot-20100523-221814.png | 23:23 |
| * frals is satisfied | 23:23 | |
| mintux | lcuk:in that image ? or separate package in freemental | 23:23 |
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| lcuk | i dunno if its in that image | 23:23 |
| MohammadAG | mintux, go to qole.org and download the bigger image | 23:23 |
| lcuk | its on the sdk/tools repositories tho | 23:23 |
| * MohammadAG doesn't approve of lcuk's idea | 23:23 | |
| MohammadAG | it trouts your / | 23:23 |
| lcuk | sure | 23:23 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, worked for you? | 23:24 |
| lcuk | it will be optified at some point | 23:24 |
| * GAN900 wishes things on Talk could stay productive and civil for more than a handful of hours at a time. | 23:24 | |
| lcuk | i used to use c compiler all the time MohammadAG | 23:24 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, but you're special ;) | 23:24 |
| lcuk | but nowadays i flash images too often to keep a stable on device sdk | 23:24 |
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| MohammadAG | now that i said that | 23:25 |
| MohammadAG | i'm off for a bit | 23:25 |
| mintux | MohammadAG:im in that site which one exactly ? I have easy debian image | 23:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Hmm. | 23:25 |
| * SpeedEvil needs a spare day. | 23:25 | |
| mintux | and can run open office or ... | 23:25 |
| MohammadAG | maemo-sdk 1_2 or sth | 23:25 |
| * MohammadAG gives SpeedEvil a spare day | 23:26 | |
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| * MohammadAG needs a spare battery cover | 23:26 | |
| SpeedEvil | The easy debian image is broken | 23:26 |
| * b-man is sooooo close to having a functional netbeans port for maemo... just need to fix the sun.awt.AWTAutoShutdown@19b46dc bug | 23:26 | |
| SpeedEvil | You can't install stuff in it. | 23:26 |
| mintux | MohammadAG it's 44meg true ? http://qole.org/files/ | 23:26 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, you can in the chroot | 23:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - much stuff - as it's got somehow broken dependancies | 23:26 |
| MohammadAG | b-man, i'll ping you in 30 | 23:26 |
| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: nope - try installing 'build-essentials' | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | mintux, 21MB LZMA file iirc | 23:27 |
| b-man | MohammadAG: k :) | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | -s | 23:27 |
| Jaffa | frals: Quote for MWKN, beyond "[I'm] satisfied"? :-) | 23:27 |
| mintux | MohammadAG: 44meg is biger :-D | 23:27 |
| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: It's got a horribly confused set of versions, and it wants to remove libc. Which doesn't go well. | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | mintux, lzma compresses better, the 1.2 is bigger afaik | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, yeah i went over that with lcuk the other day | 23:28 |
| MohammadAG | nothing that a fake package won't fix :P | 23:28 |
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| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: yeah - I have no idea how to learn that though | 23:28 |
| frals | Jaffa: credit to dwoulds blog about pynotify :) | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | unpack deb file, change control and changelog files, put a newer timestamp and repackage | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | nothing to it | 23:29 |
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| MohammadAG | anyways, brb | 23:29 |
| mintux | ok | 23:30 |
| frals | hmm, the misses is being very sarcastic about the links i post on twitter... most recent link got the comment "HEHE. thats v. funny." :( | 23:30 |
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| mintux | MohammadAG: previous was 1.1 Gig and it's 1 gig which one should I move to tablet | 23:34 |
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| mintux | but 1.2 is newer | 23:39 |
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| jaem | Hello, all | 23:39 |
| jaem | I'm having a bit of trouble with the SDK right now, trying (and failing) to start the desktop in SBox/Xephyr | 23:40 |
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| jaem | I haven't used that setup since Diablo, so I'm wondering if I've done something wrong, or if something is borked with my SDK instance. | 23:41 |
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| b-man | hmm, that's funny... apparently you can only have 4 X Terminal windows open in maemo :P | 23:46 |
| SpeedEvil | b-man: It's annoying. | 23:47 |
| SpeedEvil | b-man: ssh + xterm | 23:47 |
| b-man | yup | 23:48 |
| jaem | b-man, really? Huh... I never noticed that. | 23:48 |
| jaem | Then again, most of my prolonged console use on the N900 is in a screen session anyway. | 23:48 |
| b-man | i believe that the previous maemo versions allowed you to have more than 4 open... | 23:49 |
| b-man | seems like a silly restriction :P | 23:49 |
| jaem | Hmm... I wonder what the reason is? I can't see the console (darn! I keep wanting to spell that with a 'k') using much in the way of resources, and an artificial cap seems dumb | 23:49 |
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| jaem | While waiting for a new power brick for my laptop, I'm using an OLPC XO to remote a KDE session for work. It was really not designed for this... :P | 23:50 |
| b-man | hehe | 23:50 |
| SpeedEvil | it's a twiddleable settable - it saves a little RAM | 23:51 |
| b-man | the OpenPandora that was just released seems interesting :) | 23:51 |
| SpeedEvil | a few bytes | 23:51 |
| jaem | SpeedEvil, where are the twiddlies, then? | 23:52 |
| jaem | er... settings | 23:52 |
| SpeedEvil | it's a kernel time config | 23:52 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC | 23:52 |
| jaem | b-man, What? It was released? Madness! | 23:52 |
| b-man | lol | 23:52 |
| jaem | SpeedEvil, oh, it's a limit on the amount of terminals, not a limit in XTerm itself? | 23:52 |
| jaem | That makes more sense. | 23:52 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 23:52 |
| b-man | jaem: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=2&Itemid=2&lang=en :) | 23:53 |
| jaem | b-man, thanks. | 23:53 |
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| SpeedEvil | hmm | 23:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Or maybe it's a udev thingy | 23:54 |
| SpeedEvil | I wonder if /dev/pts only having 0 and 1 there | 23:55 |
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| mintux | I did these steps http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=352855&postcount=19 but no compiler or something like that what should I do now ? I want just g++ 1.cpp | 23:57 |
| jaem | SpeedEvil, if you figure it out, would you mind PM'ing me? I have to head out for a while. | 23:57 |
| MohammadAG | mintux, 1.2 | 23:58 |
| SpeedEvil | jaem: I'm unlikely to bother | 23:59 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 23:59 |
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