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| disq | is chinook being shipped with python2.5? | 00:06 |
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| konttori | disq: Nopr | 00:40 |
| konttori | nope | 00:40 |
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| disq | you said kagu won't install in chinook. was it because it lacked python2.5? or osso-mediaplayer-engine? | 00:41 |
| konttori | I tested ukmp on the device and that worked | 00:42 |
| konttori | It was maybe depending on something else | 00:42 |
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| konttori | and at the time that I tested, python didn't support gtk at all, so it was kind of not-yet-ready version | 00:42 |
| disq | ah, ok | 00:42 |
| konttori | But do you use gstreamer directly? | 00:43 |
| konttori | demuxer is id3demuxer in chinook | 00:43 |
| disq | so, why is ukmp shown as the top download in nokia.com/OS2008? :P | 00:43 |
| konttori | ? where? | 00:43 |
| disq | no we use osso-mediaserver/mediaplayer-engine or mplayer | 00:44 |
| disq | www.nokia.com/OS2008 :) | 00:44 |
| konttori | sweet! | 00:44 |
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| disq | yeah right :P | 00:44 |
| konttori | ukmp works on the device perfectly | 00:44 |
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| konttori | it so happens that the python works perfectly for all ukmp uses | 00:45 |
| konttori | anyway, I don't know about that chart. Might be a stub as well | 00:45 |
| konttori | or, it might retrieve it from garage downloads | 00:45 |
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| disq | i think it's a stub | 00:45 |
| konttori | Yeah. from garage, it would definitely be maemo mapper | 00:46 |
| konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/ | 00:46 |
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| tko | it's good to see community apps on the top downloads list | 00:49 |
| tko | would be nice to see more, of course ;-) | 00:49 |
| disq | :) | 00:49 |
| tko | though it's probably rather difficult to compete with things like Skype, Rhapsody, Gizmo, Boingo, ... | 00:50 |
| konttori | especially as they have direct install links in the menus | 00:51 |
| tko | OTOH we have maemo blocks preinstalled | 00:52 |
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| disq | hopefully when we get repository install counts included in the app download counts more community apps will emerge in the list | 00:54 |
| disq | of course it's impossible to compete with .install-bundled apps | 00:54 |
| disq | do you have any info on sardine? current sardine is weird with no statusbar plugins etc. | 00:55 |
| disq | never seen it this cutting edge before :P | 00:55 |
| tko | sardine contains only open source stuff.. plugins aren't | 00:55 |
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| disq | ah. true, i had my old bora versions of them | 00:57 |
| disq | thanks for the explanation :) | 00:57 |
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| * luck^ informs: PyMaemo for Chinook released! | 01:09 | |
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| alterego | I really need to get a new computer .. | 01:15 |
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| tko | alterego: I'd recommend a life instead of a computer :) | 01:16 |
| alterego | :) | 01:16 |
| alterego | Life is over rated :P | 01:16 |
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| alterego | Ignore me, I'm grouchy. Got a little cold. | 01:17 |
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| tko | oh, I didn't even notice. you need to do a lot better than that :) | 01:18 |
| alterego | Something is stopping me from figuring out what's wrong with my RPC argument processing problem in libosso too. | 01:18 |
| tko | I've never managed to take a really good look at libosso, but from the description of the RPC I got the impression it's an abstraction gone horribly wrong | 01:20 |
| alterego | Well, yes and no. | 01:20 |
| tko | but as said, I never to take a good look at it | 01:20 |
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| alterego | libosso just kind of seems like a random group of facilities. | 01:21 |
| tko | yes, it does that too | 01:21 |
| alterego | If it was structured in a more coherent manner, maybe with multiple layers of complexity it would be nicer. | 01:21 |
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| alterego | The RPC stuff isn't _too_ bad though. | 01:22 |
| alterego | Even though I'm only actually dealing with 6 libosso RPC functions. | 01:22 |
| alterego | The other 5 can be implemented with the ones I'm already using. | 01:23 |
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| alterego | Ah, think I've figured it out. | 01:26 |
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| tko | yes, I vaguely recall most of libosso RPC stuff being just a very thing wrapper on top of dbus, making it almost pointless, and the abstraction part leaking all dbus details anyways making it impractical. but I won't form any definitive opinion before studying it in detail (maybe around 2010 or so..) | 01:26 |
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| alterego | If it's still around in 2010 ;) | 01:28 |
| alterego | I had a feeling it was being replaced for some reason. | 01:28 |
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| tko | kimmo is reimplementing it slowly, see the muali stuff | 01:32 |
| alterego | Yeah. | 01:33 |
| alterego | I'd noticed that. | 01:33 |
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| tko | to some extent there's a generic problem of "if it works, why would you want to change it?" thinking, which does have a point | 01:35 |
| disq | ooh first release of pymaemo2.5 for chinook is out | 01:35 |
| tko | so ukmp should be installable? | 01:35 |
| tko | in extras? :) | 01:35 |
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| disq | kagu should be installab.e | 01:36 |
| tko | last time I tried installing ukmp it was quite painful | 01:36 |
| disq | :P | 01:36 |
| alterego | Well, sure it does what it does. | 01:37 |
| tko | kagu wasn't in the top downloads list :-P | 01:37 |
| alterego | I think somethings in it are badly done. Personally the RPC stuff isn't _too_ bad .. | 01:37 |
| alterego | I think certain things should be grouped together that aren't. Things like the new locale stuff in chinook. I think that should be ground with the time part aswell. | 01:38 |
| tko | ah, documentation issues.. todo item #235234 | 01:39 |
| alterego | ? | 01:39 |
| tko | grouping | 01:39 |
| alterego | Heh | 01:39 |
| alterego | I might actually abstract libosso a bit more for ruby-libosso | 01:40 |
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| alterego | Though that'll be a side project. The ruby-libosso bindings are going to be released as is once I've finished bug squashing. | 01:41 |
| tko | suggestions for improvement would be nice | 01:41 |
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| tko | ah, yes, the constant battle between releasing early and doing things "right" | 01:42 |
| alterego | Well, they're nice as they are. | 01:42 |
| tko | everyone just needs to deal with it | 01:42 |
| alterego | I was thinking more implementing something that would unify a few of the system libraries together. | 01:43 |
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| alterego | Jeez, my nose is running torrents. | 01:46 |
| tko | not surprising really. would be nice if you could propose such thing to be provided officially | 01:46 |
| celesteh | i prefer the official bittorent client for that, rather than my nose | 01:46 |
| alterego | :) | 01:46 |
| alterego | I think I might be over dosing on vitamin C. | 01:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 01:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | You can't do that | 01:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's water-soluble. | 01:47 |
| alterego | Good job it's not vitamin C++ then. | 01:47 |
| tko | don't drink water then. drink alcohol :) | 01:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yarr! Rum 'n' torrents sounds like a winning combination to me. Yarrharr! | 01:48 |
| alterego | http://maemo.rubyx.co.uk/sandbox/libosso-draft.txt | 01:48 |
| alterego | That's the draft API documentation. | 01:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | Looks documentary. | 01:49 |
| alterego | :) | 01:50 |
| ds3 | is there a common (cheap) car charager that will work with the N800/N770? stock nokia phone ones are too fat | 01:51 |
| alterego | Maybe there are more slim line 3rd party ones? | 01:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | Could pick up a barrel adaptor | 01:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | or get yourself an iGo | 01:51 |
| ds3 | is the charger plug a standard one used by a phone? | 01:51 |
| alterego | Nice, I was accessing random areas of memory. | 01:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | Think most of the N-series use it. | 01:52 |
| ds3 | 'k | 01:52 |
| ds3 | is the specs for plug available somewhere if I have to rig one up? | 01:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | That small-barrel Nokia adaptor is available everywhere | 01:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just pick a place and order. :\ | 01:53 |
| ds3 | okay | 01:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=125505 | 01:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | One of those will work for adapting the old plugs. | 01:53 |
| alterego | Nice, argument passing is working now :) | 01:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Woo! | 01:53 |
| ds3 | that is the right one? looks a lot like the regular nokia ones | 01:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, it's the right one. :\ | 01:54 |
| ds3 | guess the picture doesn't match :( | 01:54 |
| * alterego wonders what kind of services to write. | 01:54 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Find a better place to order it from, though. | 01:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think Nokia sells it for $15 | 01:54 |
| ds3 | *nod* that's why I wanted the specs | 01:54 |
| ds3 | a USB charger cable is probally best | 01:55 |
| alterego | Nokia chargers are awesome. | 01:55 |
| * alterego goes to bed now. | 01:59 | |
| alterego | Good night folks. | 01:59 |
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| lopz | re | 02:06 |
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| |R | anyone tried the ssh -w any:any tunnel with rtcomm? (OS2007/n800) | 02:24 |
| |R | (or does anyone knows maximCT's email?) | 02:24 |
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| |R | ah, i think i traced it back with google ;) | 02:26 |
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| Lateralus | Why would linking against libxml2 link against /scratchbox/devkits/doctools/lib/libxml2.so instead of /scratchbox/users/maemo/targets/CHINOOK_ARMEL/usr/lib/libxml2.so? There is a libxml-2.0.pc file in place that looks good. | 03:18 |
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| Lateralus | When I try to build I receive "/scratchbox/devkits/doctools/lib/libxml2.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format" | 03:32 |
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| zerojay | You know, a lot of people say that the camera on the N800 is shit and therefore is useless. | 04:50 |
| zerojay | http://www.flickr.com/photos/15969266%40N04/1752044713/in/datetaken/ - I disagree. | 04:50 |
| disq | that could be a nokia trick :P | 04:51 |
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| zerojay | lol. | 04:52 |
| disq | to get us all buy the inferior n800 or the worse n810 | 04:53 |
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| GeneralAntilles | COME OUT FROM UNDER THE COVERS! | 04:54 |
| zerojay | lol | 04:54 |
| zerojay | What's so bad about the N810? | 04:54 |
| disq | rofl | 04:54 |
| zerojay | The only thing that really annoys me is having just one slot, but I only have two 2GB cards in my N800 anyways. | 04:55 |
| zerojay | I'll probably erase the maps from the internal.. if possible. | 04:55 |
| disq | seriously? well. cam quality could be better (think iSight) and we could have a jogdial at one side | 04:55 |
| zerojay | I think the cam on the N810 is better than the one on the N800. | 04:56 |
| disq | i got one 1gig rsmmc and one 4gig sdhc. will have to buy a new 4gig minisd | 04:56 |
| zerojay | Just wish I could spin it to the back side. | 04:56 |
| disq | spinning is bad, i'd prefer a second hires cam | 04:56 |
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| zerojay | That would be nice too. | 04:56 |
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| zerojay | If I get the discount, I'm going to be giving my N800 to a friend who will buy me the N810 at the discounted price. | 04:57 |
| disq | though i don't think it would fit in its current form factor | 04:57 |
| disq | i thought you worked for nokia | 04:57 |
| zerojay | No sir. | 04:57 |
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| zerojay | I work for Ubisoft. | 04:57 |
| disq | ah, we had this talk | 04:57 |
| zerojay | Well... technically... not anymore, my company just split from them. | 04:58 |
| zerojay | Probably. | 04:58 |
| zerojay | I'm starting to wish I did work at Nokia though. | 04:58 |
| zerojay | Even just being QA for them (which I've done professionally before) on the tablets would be awesome. | 04:58 |
| pigeon | hmm, does anyone remember there was a webpage that tells people not to do irc nick changing for away messages? | 04:59 |
| disq | i could give away my n800 to an OSS enthusiast (so that we get more software ported/developed) if i got the n810 code too. | 04:59 |
| disq | pigeon: there was? | 05:00 |
| disq | well. i'd like to be on the device design team but don't see it happening. | 05:00 |
| pigeon | hmm, there was, but i couldn't find it, and google isn't helping. | 05:00 |
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| zerojay | Anyone have a copy of the latest mediaserv tarball? Jaffa's site appears to be down. | 06:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | One sec, zerojay. | 06:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.legacyoflies.com/devuploads/general_antilles/mediaserv-0.02.tar.gz | 06:17 |
| zerojay | GeneralAntilles: Thanks. | 06:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sure thing. | 06:18 |
| zerojay | 770-encode? | 06:20 |
| _Monkey | 770-encode is a perl script to transcode video to 770/N800 friendly format. Get it at http://www.bleb.org/software/770/#encode A java GUI version for win/OSX/linux can be found at http://mediaconverter.garage.maemo.org and an alternative shellscript transcoder can be found at http://www.modeemi.fi/~cosmo/projects/encode770/ | 06:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just remember to switch it to 'mplayer' quality | 06:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | and maybe up the bitrate a bit | 06:20 |
| zerojay | You got 770-encode on ya? | 06:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.legacyoflies.com/devuploads/general_antilles/770-encode.zip | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a little hacked up | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | My LAME encoder is messed up | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | so it's setup to passthrough | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | and I upped the bitrate a bit on the mplayer setting | 06:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Line 138 if you want to switch it to mp3 encoding | 06:23 |
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| zerojay | Change copy to mp3? | 06:25 |
| _Monkey | zerojay: that doesn't look right | 06:25 |
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| zerojay | Die, bitch. | 06:25 |
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| GeneralAntilles | mp3lame | 06:26 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Then you'll need to set the bitrate | 06:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Check google for specifics | 06:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't recall and I'm a mencoder noob. | 06:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | -lameopts I think | 06:27 |
| zerojay | hmm.. looks like I'm missing an unlisted dependency. | 06:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | What's the log say? | 06:32 |
| zerojay | Can't locate HTTP/Date.pm in @INC | 06:35 |
| zerojay | Missing perl module. | 06:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah | 06:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | I had to install a bunch of perl modules | 06:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Open up mediaserv and hit all of the modules listed at the top. | 06:35 |
| zerojay | Gentoo didn't pull in everything that the CPAN install did, apparently...even though I installed the same module. | 06:36 |
| zerojay | We'll see. | 06:36 |
| zerojay | Nah.. still same thing. | 06:36 |
| zerojay | Had to manually install HTTP::Date.. weird. | 06:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't even want to think about what it took to get that running on OS X here. ;) | 06:40 |
| zerojay | Gentoo makes it easy. | 06:41 |
| zerojay | Usually. | 06:41 |
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| zerojay | Er.. I'm supposed to go to my IP:8090 in the web browser to access it, right? | 06:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Should be | 06:42 |
| zerojay | When I did, it did a search of my server's machine name on google. lol | 06:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 06:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | I had trouble with that, too. | 06:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | 3 times the charm. :\ | 06:42 |
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| GeneralAntilles | *3rd | 06:42 |
| zerojay | Just keeps going to google. | 06:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 06:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think a solution was mentioned in the thread on ITT | 06:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Change something in hosts | 06:45 |
| _Monkey | GeneralAntilles: that doesn't look right | 06:45 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Useless bot . . . | 06:46 |
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| zerojay | Probably add your machine name to /etc/hosts. | 06:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, makes sense. | 06:46 |
| zerojay | k, got it. | 06:48 |
| zerojay | Will be interesting to see how it manages all my videos. | 06:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | Quite a nice little setup. | 06:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's amazing somebody hasn't set up something similar in the past. | 06:49 |
| zerojay | Takes a while to start? | 06:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not particularly. | 06:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | Did it open media player? | 06:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | /mplayer | 06:49 |
| zerojay | YEah.. it's open. | 06:49 |
| zerojay | Doing nothing that I can tell though. | 06:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | mencoder going on the PC? | 06:50 |
| zerojay | Yep. | 06:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Huh, weird. | 06:50 |
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| zerojay | Anyways, bed time. | 07:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | 'night | 07:04 |
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| lopz | bye | 08:16 |
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| |R | is it me or are the nokia headphones completely damped and unhearable in any kind of noisy environment? | 08:18 |
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| |R | (i mean the sennheiser HD555 sounds very good, but the nokia, i can't hear anything...) | 08:23 |
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| sciboy | http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors/ Gosh I wish we had something for the N800. | 09:28 |
| sciboy | http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109067 | 09:28 |
| keesj | pretty nice indeed, horizon does about the same | 09:37 |
| sciboy | ? | 09:38 |
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| sciboy | I would love to mention the IT's in that thread, if there's some app I haven't heard of yet. =P | 09:39 |
| keesj | http://pippin.gimp.org/horizon/ | 09:39 |
| * czr peeks | 09:41 | |
| keesj | it's nice because of the zomm feature and the "smudge" kinda drawings I haven't tried it on recent devices | 09:42 |
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| pupnik_ | my favorite so far is mtpaint | 10:13 |
| keesj | I like tuxpaint :p | 10:20 |
| keesj | it keeps the kids quitet | 10:21 |
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| sciboy | pupnik_, I need to get that working, there was a lib missing. | 10:25 |
| flip^ | does mtpaint do pressure sensitive drawing? | 10:26 |
| sciboy | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/faint/ | 10:27 |
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| DRoBeR | Good morning. | 10:30 |
| atul | : GLIB WARNING ** default - maemo-af-desktop did not exit properly on the previous session. All home plugins will be disabled. | 10:31 |
| atul | what to do ? | 10:31 |
| pupnik_ | I don't agree with Javesh's renaming of mtpaint for maemo to faint, but if he can fix up the memory/ui problems i'll buy him a beer. | 10:32 |
| pupnik_ | sciboy and no - my version doesn't | 10:33 |
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| sciboy | I swear I'm going to start downloading PDF files like crazy. | 10:38 |
| sciboy | It's awesome being able to have easy offline reading like that. | 10:38 |
| flip^ | "like that"? | 10:39 |
| czr | cat file.pdf | 10:39 |
| sciboy | On the N800 | 10:39 |
| czr | awesomeroxor.. | 10:39 |
| czr | it's like matrix, but only cooler. | 10:39 |
| sciboy | I got through three PDF's I never would've otherwise and learnt tons. | 10:40 |
| keesj | sciboy: did you also try fbreader? | 10:41 |
| czr | how does the device handle large pdfs? like reference manuals and such? | 10:41 |
| sciboy | Nope, don't have any plucker documents I want to read right now. | 10:41 |
| sciboy | czr, All I read was A4 at actual pixel size. | 10:41 |
| sciboy | So I'd assume so. | 10:42 |
| czr | hmm. using the stock pdf reader? | 10:42 |
| sciboy | Yeah, I tried Evince, didn't work for well for image heavy stuff. =/ | 10:42 |
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| * czr loads ia-32 ref manuals onto the device. | 10:42 | |
| sciboy | Only thing is you have to remember the page numbers yourself. | 10:43 |
| sciboy | If you want to continue later. | 10:43 |
| flip^ | Thing I don't like about the stock reader is that it doesn't display pages continuously | 10:43 |
| keesj | also when zooming it's hard to switch pages | 10:44 |
| sciboy | I avoid zoom. | 10:44 |
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| keesj | I learn moost by using wikipedia :P and it has this wonderflull zommable interface called html :) | 10:45 |
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| czr | hmm. the pdf viewer (evince) doesn't seem to like the intel pdfs | 10:48 |
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| Jaffa | re | 10:49 |
| Jaffa | server seems to have moved ok. excellent. | 10:49 |
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| czr | ah no. heh. silly maemo. I had evince open (started from TN), then I opened a pdf using the file manager | 10:49 |
| czr | obviously having the program already running means that "no, the user doesn't really want to load the document which was launched from the file manager". bleh. | 10:49 |
| czr | damn. evince is actually quite workable with the docs | 10:52 |
| czr | at last. a single use for the device that is useful to me :-) | 10:53 |
| * sciboy saves out a few website articles as PDF files for reading. | 10:54 | |
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| flip^ | do you read your PDFs portrait or landscape on the device? | 10:59 |
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| sciboy | Landscape, It's easier for me to scroll down. | 11:00 |
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| |Pea| | hi | 11:03 |
| _Monkey | privet, |Pea| | 11:03 |
| |Pea| | it's possible to do ipsec with maemo ? | 11:05 |
| ptman | seems to be after a quick google | 11:07 |
| * flip^ wonders why he just got 'webamecopyimglocation' as one of the context menu options on an image in the web browser | 11:11 | |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:14 |
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| sciboy | flip^, Hehe | 11:24 |
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| amr | my replacement tablet came in 3 days :-) | 11:36 |
| amr | i only returned mine on wednesday | 11:36 |
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| pupnik_ | great service! usually you only hear from people when they have problems | 11:40 |
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| amr | yeah i was pleasantly surprised | 11:41 |
| sp3000 | flip^: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1956 | 11:43 |
| flip^ | aha | 11:48 |
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| * alterego looks for something to do. | 12:33 | |
| rafl | so I'm trying to manually setup that maemo 3.1 sdk as described in http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/3.1/INSTALL.txt | 12:43 |
| rafl | but after setting up the armel target inside scratchbox starting af-sb-init.sh fails as there seems to be no /etc | 12:44 |
| rafl | how is /etc within that armel target to be created? | 12:44 |
| alterego | You need to install "files" to your target. /etc, devkits andf fakeroot. | 12:45 |
| alterego | Were you using sb-menu or sb-conf? | 12:45 |
| rafl | sb-conf | 12:45 |
| alterego | Hang on I'll just work out the command. | 12:45 |
| alterego | sb-conf install --etc --devkits --fakeroot | 12:45 |
| alterego | That'll do it :) | 12:46 |
| rafl | that's what I did. | 12:46 |
| rafl | also that's what INSTALL.txt says | 12:46 |
| alterego | sb-conf install SDK_ARMEL --etc --devkits --fakeroot .. | 12:46 |
| alterego | Interesting. | 12:46 |
| alterego | Remove the target and try again. | 12:47 |
| rafl | aye | 12:47 |
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| rafl | alterego: sb-conf install SDK_ARMEL --etc --devkits --fakeroot; test -d /etc || echo oh noes gives | 12:49 |
| rafl | Installing fakeroot version 1.4.2... | 12:49 |
| rafl | oh noes | 12:49 |
| rafl | on a freshly setup target | 12:49 |
| alterego | etc is a symlink | 12:50 |
| rafl | test -e then.. same result. | 12:51 |
| alterego | Though that wouldn't stop it working. | 12:51 |
| alterego | Try doing it with sb-menu | 12:52 |
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| rafl | /usr/bin/af-sb-init.sh: Error, /etc/osso-af-init/af-defines.sh does not exist or is not readable | 12:52 |
| rafl | ok - will try that. | 12:52 |
| alterego | Though I fear there's something else wrong. | 12:53 |
| rafl | right. using sb-menu doesn't fix it as well. | 12:56 |
| alterego | Freaky | 12:57 |
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| alterego | Maybe you've got a broken scratchbox install. Other than that I have no clue :/ | 12:57 |
| rafl | I'm using what deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ apophis main provides. Is that known to be broken? | 12:58 |
| alterego | No, works fine for me | 12:58 |
| rafl | I guess I'll just uninstall all those packages, wipe /scratchbox and start over. Maybe I've messed something up. | 12:59 |
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| keesj | rafl: what is are you using? | 13:20 |
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| rafl | keesj: err? | 13:24 |
| keesj | are your base is belonged to us? | 13:25 |
| keesj | what distro are you using | 13:25 |
| jumpula | i use mostly caffeine | 13:28 |
| jumpula | sometime excess doses of sugar | 13:28 |
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| rafl | keesj: Debian sid. | 13:33 |
| _Monkey | i heard debian sid was currently at 2.2.17 from the stable branch | 13:33 |
| alterego | Heh | 13:33 |
| Veggen | hrmf. | 13:34 |
| Veggen | Does *anyone* know who the owner of _Monkey is? | 13:34 |
| alterego | Nope. | 13:35 |
| * rafl reinstalls all the scratchbox stuff | 13:35 | |
| Veggen | it sort of annoys me. | 13:35 |
| alterego | Just ignore it then. | 13:35 |
| Veggen | not much, but a little, and often enough ;) | 13:35 |
| Veggen | sure. | 13:35 |
| alterego | It comes in handy fairly often too. | 13:35 |
| Veggen | alterego: Well. But would it annoy you to actually have to ask it specifically? | 13:36 |
| alterego | No, guess not. | 13:36 |
| Veggen | that's my main complaint. | 13:36 |
| alterego | Yes, that's quite reasonable :) | 13:36 |
| Veggen | It even answers to "good morning" etc. | 13:36 |
| * alterego makes a note to self. chinook SDK doesn't require fakeroot. | 13:37 | |
| Veggen | I've seen newbies trying to talk to it and get confused. | 13:38 |
| alterego | Heh | 13:38 |
| Veggen | (a bot shouldn't try to imitate a real person) | 13:38 |
| suihkulokki | in some other channel we have bot to react on lines beginning with ? | 13:39 |
| suihkulokki | like: | 13:39 |
| suihkulokki | ?repositories | 13:39 |
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| alterego | Does maemo not include iconv? | 13:41 |
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| amr | just curious, on a tablets first charge and the device says its full | 13:55 |
| amr | do i actually listen to it and remove the power cord or leave it longer | 13:55 |
| alterego | Once it's charged it's charged. | 13:56 |
| amr | okay :-) | 13:56 |
| alterego | Leaving the power cord in will do literally nothing. | 13:56 |
| amr | oh ok cool | 13:57 |
| amr | i just read the manual for the first time and saw it said don't leave the cord in and overcharge it | 13:57 |
| alterego | I wasn't aware that was possible. | 13:57 |
| alterego | Once the tablet is fully charged the PSU pretty much stops working. | 13:58 |
| amr | oh ok | 13:58 |
| alterego | Maybe that's just if you have a different kind of PSU. | 13:58 |
| rafl | alterego: do you happen to run the above scratchbox packages on Debian sid as well? | 14:00 |
| alterego | Etch | 14:00 |
| rafl | i see | 14:00 |
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| amr | weird | 14:03 |
| amr | the downloads page on maemo.org | 14:04 |
| amr | doesn't load on my tablet | 14:04 |
| amr | it just says connecting :s | 14:04 |
| amr | oh it works now | 14:06 |
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| lardman | morning | 14:07 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 14:07 |
| lardman | _Monkey: how are you this morning? | 14:07 |
| _Monkey | no idea, lardman | 14:07 |
| lardman | _Monkey: You are well | 14:07 |
| _Monkey | ...but _monkey is the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now | an annoying bot... | 14:07 |
| alterego | Heh | 14:08 |
| lardman | s/|/& | 14:08 |
| lardman | morning to the non-bots out there too | 14:09 |
| rafl | alterego: success! | 14:09 |
| alterego | Just gone afternoon here :) | 14:09 |
| rafl | alterego: my scratchbox was probably fucked up. | 14:09 |
| alterego | rafl, congrats! :) | 14:09 |
| alterego | Yeah, it's a common problem. | 14:09 |
| rafl | I still wonder how I managed to do that. | 14:11 |
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| Andy80 | hi | 14:13 |
| _Monkey | hi, Andy80 | 14:13 |
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| rafl | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/3.1/INSTALL.txt (3.2.4) tells me to create dummy packages for certain build dependencies. Also it refers to the installer script (http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.1/maemo-scratchbox-install_3.1.sh, I guess) for examples on automating this. I don't see anything regarding fake packages in that script though. pointers? | 14:18 |
| keesj | rafl: yes one moment | 14:19 |
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| rafl | keesj: uhm.. n/m me. | 14:22 |
| rafl | keesj: I've been looking at the scratchbox installer, not the sdk installer :-) | 14:23 |
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| keesj | hmm acualty I just copied it from the install file http://tinyurl.com/2ycqck | 14:23 |
| dpb_ | scratchbox installer? | 14:24 |
| keesj | sbox+nokia with 2.2 and 3.2 | 14:24 |
| keesj | I an not a script guru :) | 14:25 |
| keesj | but I was happy with functions.sh | 14:25 |
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| Thanatermesis | i supose that not exist any app to open Power Point type files, correct ? | 14:38 |
| Thanatermesis | because... run openoffice2 on n800 is a crazy idea i supose | 14:38 |
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| robtaylor | Thanatermesis: you could try using google docs | 14:43 |
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| keesj | Thanatermesis: I guess that oo can convert them to pdf? | 14:45 |
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| Thanatermesis | keesj, idk, i want to open it from the n800 | 14:46 |
| Thanatermesis | robtaylor, but i can "send" (open) files with google docs ? | 14:46 |
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| robtaylor | Thanatermesis: you can open and edit PPt in google docs,from what i hear | 15:02 |
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| robtaylor | Thanatermesis: and yes, you shoudl e able to upload a ppt to google docs from your n800 | 15:04 |
| rafl | how about module init tools? 3.1 wanted me to provide a dummy package. 3.2 seems to ship with a real module-init-tools package. I guess I should remove my dummy package then, right? | 15:05 |
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| lopz | hola | 15:12 |
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| rafl | isn't the maemo repository somewhat selfcontained? It seems to have gstreamer0.10-plugins-base can't satisfy its build dependencies. | 15:18 |
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| jumpula | not all the build dependencies are satisfiable at the moment | 15:21 |
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| rafl | jumpula: what can I do about that? | 15:50 |
| Tak | cry? | 15:51 |
| rafl | I'd be more interested in anything that'd fix things. | 15:51 |
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| jumpula | you can try to remove dependencies from packages, or try to compile build dependencies from debian | 15:56 |
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| timelyx | hello world | 16:01 |
| timelyx | anyone here poke bugs.maemo.org? | 16:01 |
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| Tak | seems ok to me? | 16:02 |
| timelyx | just want to point out that most products should now have a target milestone field | 16:03 |
| timelyx | it should look familiar (fairly similar to the version field) | 16:03 |
| Tak | indeed it seems that they do | 16:04 |
| timelyx | for bugs that are fixed already, for people who happen to have editbugs and can determine a version in which a bug is fixed, it'd be appreciated if you set it to the lowest version in which it's fixed :) | 16:04 |
| timelyx | most products should have 1.1 .. 4.0, ---, Next, Future | 16:05 |
| timelyx | if any of them don't have some of those, let me know, and i'll try to deal w/ that sometime this weekend | 16:05 |
| timelyx | 1.0 is kinda a bit of a silly point, so i don't care so much about it :) | 16:05 |
| timelyx | but if i'm e.g. missing 2.1 from Connectivity, i'd like to know so i can fix that :) | 16:05 |
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| rafl | jumpula: k - what to do with the results? | 16:09 |
| jumpula | i suppose they could be put in extras | 16:10 |
| jumpula | but it's not really up to me :P | 16:10 |
| timelyx | rafl: sardine is supposed to be self contained | 16:11 |
| timelyx | it will in fact reject unsatisfiable things | 16:11 |
| timelyx | which means while one would hope it's bleeding edge, it isn't always | 16:11 |
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| rafl | timelyx: what's sardine? | 16:52 |
| _Monkey | sardine is (very) unstable or http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine | 16:52 |
| rafl | _Monkey++ | 16:53 |
| Tak | Don't encourage it. | 16:53 |
| Tak | _Monkey, forget postincrement. | 16:54 |
| _Monkey | Tak, I didn't have anything matching postincrement | 16:54 |
| Veggen | Ok. I vote for kicking *and* banning _Monkey for a while, until the owner speaks up? | 16:55 |
| * Tak vote++ | 16:56 | |
| Veggen | Not that I hate _Monkey as a concept, I just think the owner should be available and actually monitor its function on the channel. | 16:56 |
| jumpula | sounds like throwing a monkeywrench in the machinery :) | 16:56 |
| Veggen | I think it's function should be tuned - it shouldn't speak unless explicitly spoken too, and never do like this: | 16:57 |
| Veggen | morning people | 16:57 |
| Veggen | (hmm, didn't it reply?) | 16:57 |
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| Veggen | hello people. | 16:57 |
| Veggen | (hmm. I *have* seen it answer to greetings :) | 16:58 |
| pupnik | hi | 16:58 |
| pupnik | maybe it's turned off | 16:58 |
| pupnik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=9gsIzP9s_t0 sorry - offtopic post on this subject - crytek tech demo (wow) | 16:58 |
| pupnik | i would cast my vote to make monkey only respond with a ! query | 16:59 |
| Veggen | pupnik: I've been trying to find out who owns _monkey, and noone seems to know. | 16:59 |
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| pupnik | wasn't it timeless? | 17:00 |
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| sp3000 | look at hosts eh? | 17:01 |
| sp3000 | and whois even has a contact domain | 17:02 |
| sp3000 | (milhouse appears to be the winner, fwiw.) | 17:02 |
| Veggen | seems like. | 17:03 |
| sp3000 | _Monkey: who are you? | 17:03 |
| _Monkey | i am the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now | 17:03 |
| sp3000 | oh, yeah, that's useless :) | 17:03 |
| Tak | _Monkey: Who's your daddy? | 17:03 |
| _Monkey | no idea, tak | 17:03 |
| * sp3000 shrughs left and right | 17:04 | |
| sp3000 | shrugs even | 17:04 |
| sp3000 | hmm, I think move demands singing "Thriller" | 17:04 |
| * sp3000 spares the office that | 17:05 | |
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| Tak | scariest zombie movie evar | 17:07 |
| alterego | Your mom .. Returns | 17:07 |
| * Tak pwnd | 17:08 | |
| alterego | Hmm .. Considering I have to go to this party tonight. I wonder what I should drink to help my cold. | 17:08 |
| alterego | I'm thinking whisky. | 17:08 |
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| Jaffa | Aww, cool - I love it when software I write gets a comment of the form: "Beautiful software. Thanks." | 17:37 |
| alterego | :) | 17:37 |
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| Tak | Jaffa: I bet I'd love it too :-P | 17:43 |
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| amr | what software Jaffa ? | 17:46 |
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| Jaffa | amr: mediaserv - http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa | 17:54 |
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| keesj | we need a pastebin app on maemo! | 17:56 |
| Tak | you mean a bookmark? | 17:58 |
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| sciboy | That would be nice if my N800 had access to the wifi. =/ | 18:02 |
| keesj | something to share links / paste and retrieve them on the device | 18:03 |
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| Jaffa | keesj: for 24-style "send this link to my PDA" comments :) | 18:06 |
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| keesj | 24-style? | 18:07 |
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| keesj | I think that new nokia service also does something similar (send this video to my phone kinda stuff) | 18:08 |
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| trunneml_ | hello | 18:11 |
| _Monkey | salut, trunneml_ | 18:11 |
| trunneml_ | i have a problem with libosso and rpc | 18:11 |
| trunneml_ | can some one help me? | 18:12 |
| Tak | perhaps if you described the problem | 18:12 |
| db48x | isnt't there supposed to be a LXR at maemo.org/lxr? | 18:13 |
| trunneml_ | I have a dbus rpc function that need no parameter and has a string as the return value | 18:13 |
| sp3000 | there was once upon a time | 18:14 |
| trunneml_ | ret = osso_rpc_run(osso_context, | 18:14 |
| trunneml_ | OSSO_MAPPER_SERVICE, | 18:14 |
| trunneml_ | OSSO_MAPPER_OBJECT, | 18:14 |
| trunneml_ | OSSO_MAPPER_IFACE, | 18:14 |
| trunneml_ | "getPOIdbpath", &retval, G_TYPE_STRING, OUT_poidbpath, DBUS_TYPE_INVALID); | 18:14 |
| db48x | sp3000: where did it migrate to? | 18:15 |
| trunneml_ | OUT_poidbpath should include the retrun value | 18:15 |
| trunneml_ | but it does not work | 18:15 |
| Tak | &OUT_poidbpath ? | 18:15 |
| trunneml_ | hmm | 18:16 |
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| [31d1] | http://lrrr.us/omicron/cisco.jpg | 18:16 |
| sp3000 | db48x: there's http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ | 18:16 |
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| db48x | heh, timeless would have his own | 18:17 |
| trunneml_ | nope | 18:17 |
| trunneml_ | does not work | 18:18 |
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| * Tak gives up | 18:20 | |
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| dpryo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0 | 18:24 |
| trunneml_ | found the solution | 18:31 |
| trunneml_ | it isn't transmited over a parameter like the normal dbus interface | 18:32 |
| trunneml_ | the return value is in retval | 18:32 |
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| trevarth1n | what's the best PDF reader for maemo? | 18:36 |
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| erstazi | what are some of your favorite wireless routers? I think I am going to get a WRT54GL | 18:38 |
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| Tak | any one that supports dd-wrt | 18:39 |
| Tak | or rather, vice-versa | 18:40 |
| zoran | I have wrt54gl and could say just the best for it | 18:40 |
| zoran | I have wrt54gl and could say just the best for it | 18:40 |
| Tak | you can say that again | 18:41 |
| erstazi | heh | 18:41 |
| zoran | sorry | 18:41 |
| zoran | pointer stayed at the wrong shell | 18:41 |
| erstazi | Tak: currently, unless one finds an older model of WRT54g, the WRT54GL is the best luck | 18:41 |
| erstazi | zoran: using screen? | 18:41 |
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| Tak | yeah - I bought a wrt54gc once because I wasn't paying attention | 18:42 |
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| zoran | erstazi, yes, a lot | 18:42 |
| zoran | Tak, gc was my first choice, but could not find it in a store. does it works as gl? | 18:43 |
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| Tak | dd-wrt doesn't work on the gc | 18:43 |
| trunneml_ | some one has expirens with libosso and dbus signals? | 18:43 |
| Tak | or it didn't last I checked | 18:44 |
| zoran | Tak, it was not linux box, as I recall | 18:44 |
| Tak | yeah | 18:44 |
| zoran | reading reviews helps nothing, when comes the time to buy the device | 18:44 |
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| erstazi | zoran: GL is flashable with any of the OSes for routers | 18:45 |
| zoran | I think so | 18:45 |
| erstazi | thats why I am going with the WRT54GL | 18:45 |
| zoran | dd could be the choice | 18:45 |
| erstazi | I might do OpenWRT | 18:45 |
| zoran | yes | 18:45 |
| zoran | even linksys vanilla | 18:46 |
| erstazi | yeah | 18:46 |
| erstazi | the main thing is, I want better control over whitelisting and blacklisting | 18:46 |
| erstazi | primarily over whitelisting | 18:46 |
| zoran | mac filtering | 18:46 |
| zoran | dmz | 18:46 |
| erstazi | and WEP | 18:46 |
| zoran | wpa2 | 18:46 |
| erstazi | WPA2 | 18:46 |
| erstazi | yes | 18:46 |
| zoran | yep | 18:46 |
| erstazi | my old wireless died so I cannot access the internet unless I walk down the street and borrow from the neighbors, but I dislike that | 18:47 |
| zoran | I have wpa aes on 770 and works monstruously | 18:47 |
| erstazi | my old wireless router only had wep sadly | 18:47 |
| zoran | dd-wrt adds signal strenght | 18:47 |
| erstazi | I might check it out | 18:48 |
| zoran | if you need it | 18:48 |
| erstazi | but right now, I have no wireless, only a wired router | 18:48 |
| erstazi | I might do ad-hoc with the extra wireless card | 18:48 |
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| erstazi | if I get despairate | 18:48 |
| * erstazi will be right back | 18:48 | |
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| fish__ | damn, why does maemomapper hangs every time the display switchs on | 18:49 |
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| zoran | hm, drm seems to go to some nokia phones. 6233 review on mobile-review.com | 18:53 |
| gla55 | what you mean with "drm seems to go to" | 18:55 |
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| gla55 | they've had some sorts of drm's like forward lock options for a while | 18:55 |
| zoran | cannot paste but gonna say it | 18:56 |
| zoran | attempt to send app, received from pc or wap, will fail | 18:56 |
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| zoran | www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-6233-en.shtml | 18:57 |
| gla55 | i'm under impression that it's the case with almost any nokia(or other) | 18:57 |
| zoran | I was interesting in this model | 18:58 |
| gla55 | can't install app from obex anyways on at least most(at least older) s40's | 18:58 |
| zoran | looks strange, don't you think? | 18:58 |
| gla55 | it's strange to mention it in a specific phones review more rather imoh | 18:59 |
| gla55 | imho | 18:59 |
| gla55 | i thought you meant with drm oma drm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMA_DRM | 18:59 |
| zoran | hm, dunno | 18:59 |
| gla55 | you can't forward send apps on s60's either(well, at least on 2nd eds you could rename the file and then send it tho) | 19:00 |
| zoran | check on the link above, is says if it is | 19:00 |
| zoran | I went to stores today to take a look at models 6120 and 6233 | 19:00 |
| gla55 | anyways, with most phones, you can't forward send apps, most of the time it's not an issue | 19:00 |
| zoran | what stories I heard, you would not believe | 19:01 |
| gla55 | on some motos you have to flip some bits to be able to install without doing it over wap | 19:02 |
| zoran | this 6233 is not smart phone with symbian | 19:02 |
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| zoran | it has bt | 19:02 |
| zoran | I could send something from 770, probably | 19:02 |
| amr | what flash version is supported on the 770 | 19:03 |
| amr | 7 is it? | 19:03 |
| gla55 | but like i said, at least with older s40's you coldn't install jar apps that you sent with obex | 19:03 |
| gla55 | with s60's(like 6120 classic) you could | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | amr: yes | 19:03 |
| amr | ok ty | 19:03 |
| zoran | would you concider that s40 phone as good? | 19:03 |
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| gla55 | it's s40, it's ok, the rest is if you just like the form factor/design.. | 19:04 |
| zoran | about 110 g | 19:04 |
| zoran | classical design | 19:04 |
| zoran | now I have se j300i and just cannot hear what peaple are talking about | 19:05 |
| gla55 | i'd rather take the 6120 classic.. but i like s60 more than s40 | 19:06 |
| zoran | k | 19:06 |
| zoran | it was my first intention | 19:06 |
| zoran | and I started to read | 19:06 |
| zoran | and what I found? | 19:07 |
| zoran | that it heats a lot | 19:07 |
| gla55 | forum nokias side is a lot better than the consumer versions for finding tech specs btw http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/6120_classic | 19:07 |
| gla55 | heats a lot? wtf | 19:07 |
| zoran | I have no idea, but people on forums complane that | 19:08 |
| zoran | some speaker issue | 19:08 |
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| zoran | gla55, I don't say it's a truth | 19:09 |
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| murrayc_ | Has anyone else noticed that files are read-only in scratchbox after dist upgrading gutsy? | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | For instance, when then doing a dist upgrade inside scratchbox, I get: | 19:10 |
| Robot101 | doesn't seem to be the case here | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. | 19:10 |
| murrayc_ | And when creating packages it complains that the file system is read-only. | 19:11 |
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| mgedmin | what does 'mount' say (outside scratchbox)? | 19:11 |
| mgedmin | or /proc/mounts | 19:11 |
| zoran | gla55, it looks just 500 phones is memory for 6233 | 19:11 |
| murrayc_ | murrayc@murrayc-vmware:~$ mount | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | /dev/pts on /scratchbox/users/murrayc/dev/pts type none (rw,bind) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | /dev/shm on /scratchbox/users/murrayc/dev/shm type none (rw,bind) | 19:12 |
| murrayc_ | /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=murrayc) | 19:12 |
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| murrayc_ | It's a good thing I'm using vmware. I'll go back to a snapshot. | 19:20 |
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| |R | anybody is selling backplates w/battery replacements for the n800 to boost the battery capacity? http://blog.russnelson.com/770/N800-external-battery.html <- something like this but made a lot less fugly ;-) We could even have one USB rechargeable ;) | 19:27 |
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| |R | a full plate battery using the space below the pen's bump would give us 12h+ of continuous battery use i'm sure ;) | 19:29 |
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| j_ck | while you're at it, did anyone watched an entire movie in MPlayer and survived with the battery? | 19:36 |
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| mgedmin | I did | 19:36 |
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| mgedmin | ah, no, not mplayer | 19:37 |
| j_ck | how much "life" did it take from maemo? | 19:37 |
| mgedmin | that might have been the built-in media player | 19:37 |
| j_ck | what did you used | 19:37 |
| j_ck | built-in can play a full length movie? | 19:37 |
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| j_ck | isn't it slow for mpeg? | 19:37 |
| mgedmin | if you recode it | 19:37 |
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| mgedmin | it all depends on the size and bitrate | 19:37 |
| j_ck | i'm trying to skip that. want to see it playing regular. that would really put it up there with the portable players | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | I suspect all players have their limits | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | only most of them have bigger limits | 19:39 |
| j_ck | :) | 19:39 |
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| wumpus | then again, you can't really expect it to do things that devices with a few times the cpu power or even hardwrae based video decoding can | 19:43 |
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| Bobbywaz | holla! | 19:44 |
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| bueroman | hello folks | 19:46 |
| bueroman | i'm missing the libsdl-net1.2 package on chinook sdk | 19:46 |
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| bueroman | was it removed, or is it just missing? | 19:47 |
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| sciboy_ | I crave N800 gaming. | 19:51 |
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| sciboy_ | Finally learnt how to play Mahjong | 19:52 |
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| ccooke | Hum. Anyone know about java on the n800/n810? | 19:55 |
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| Tak | sciboy: pupnik's your man | 19:55 |
| script | ccooke: i've searched for ages ... nothing usable found | 19:56 |
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| ccooke | script: Shame. I was hoping (for instance) goproblems.com would work | 19:57 |
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| * ccooke has been using the Zaurus line for years - the n810 looks like a good replacement device since I can't get a new Z any more | 19:57 | |
| * sciboy is brainstorming mini-game concepts. | 19:58 | |
| * Tak playing with rubygame | 19:59 | |
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| Bobbywaz | what the frig is a zaurus | 19:59 |
| sciboy | Bobbywaz, One of the earlier commercial linux handhelds. | 20:00 |
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| ccooke | Bobbywaz: Clamshell palmtop. VGA screen. Made by sharp. Built in hard disk. Linux by design (qt based). Line discontinued as of earlier this year | 20:00 |
| Tak | clamshell ones were only in japan :-( | 20:01 |
| Bobbywaz | innnnteresting. | 20:01 |
| Bobbywaz | I wish the n810 was clamshell :( | 20:01 |
| Bobbywaz | just a tiny little laptop | 20:01 |
| ccooke | Tak: yeah, but easy to get. And I was in Tokyo building a datacentre this time last year | 20:01 |
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| Tak | I heard the english translations weren't great | 20:02 |
| ccooke | Tak: no, they were fine | 20:03 |
| gla55 | bro had one of those 5500's | 20:03 |
| Tak | cool | 20:03 |
| gla55 | friggin cool | 20:03 |
| gla55 | back then | 20:03 |
| gla55 | when it was new | 20:03 |
| ccooke | The clamshells are lovely devices - especially for playing around with. They're almost impossible to brick | 20:03 |
| sciboy | I've always wanted to develop a game for a portable device. | 20:04 |
| gla55 | go for it | 20:05 |
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| sciboy | Already am, it's partially why I got the N800. | 20:08 |
| sciboy | I'll be using Gecko to do the heavy lifting for me, only reason I hadn't done a game for GP2X etc. is because I'm an artist/animator not a programmer, I can handle scripting just not blitting graphics etc. | 20:10 |
| sciboy | Plenty of web dev. tools and a graphical cross-platform environment to test with. | 20:12 |
| sciboy | So in short, BINGO! | 20:13 |
| amr | make a racing game | 20:18 |
| amr | i cannot find one anywhere | 20:18 |
| sciboy | I need to get familiar with the devices limitations and controls first though, so I have to work on mini-games before I consider touching anything major. | 20:18 |
| amr | even a really badly done one | 20:18 |
| sciboy | I have a design for a racing game, but it was planned for 3D. =/ | 20:18 |
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| amr | if doom can work | 20:19 |
| amr | im sure a very basic racing one can work | 20:19 |
| amr | i'd hope anyway | 20:19 |
| sciboy | I just don't think it's suitable for the maemo platform, especially without the powervr to assist. | 20:19 |
| Tak | heh, doom's not using 3d | 20:20 |
| amr | who cares | 20:20 |
| sciboy | I know, which is why I disregarded that comment, I can only take pseudo graphics so far. | 20:20 |
| amr | just make me a racing game ok >:( | 20:20 |
| sciboy | And a racer would be a case where it wouldn't work terribly well. | 20:20 |
| amr | i want a racer :( | 20:21 |
| sciboy | Oh cheer up, I'll think it over but don't get your hopes up, it's unlikely and better suited to someone who can push the performance rather than working around it like I do. | 20:22 |
| amr | :P | 20:22 |
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| inz | Hmm, I wonder if I dare alter mce.ini in a postinst script... | 20:24 |
| sciboy | The fact that I use more texture planes than models in my 3D animations is evidence enough to that. | 20:24 |
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| oyvind | How can you play 3d games with the button layout | 20:28 |
| sciboy | By simplifying controls and taking advantage of the bottom left and right corner of the touch screen. | 20:29 |
| sciboy | Which are in easy and unobtrusive distance for the thumbs. | 20:30 |
| sciboy | Hell, make that either edge of the screen. | 20:30 |
| oyvind | i guess with n810 it be easyer | 20:31 |
| sciboy | Why? | 20:31 |
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| sciboy | Personally I wouldn't even consider any design that required you to slide the keyboard out. | 20:31 |
| oyvind | couz of the new implemented keyboard | 20:32 |
| sciboy | The screen is just too perfect of an intuitive interface. | 20:32 |
| ccooke | sciboy: What are you thinking of, in terms of minigames? | 20:33 |
| sciboy | Let's take the racing game as an example. | 20:33 |
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| sciboy | Left and right of the screen for steering, and while doing so, make the difference from top to bottom to manage speed (and strength of steering) | 20:34 |
| sciboy | ccooke, I don't know yet that's why I'm brainstorming right now, the major game I'll be doing is a side-scrolling action adventure, but I'm just going to pick a few small ideas I could crank out in a few weeks to learn how I can handle this device. | 20:37 |
| oyvind | What kind of games could be run via an emulator, it have power enuf to run nintendo ds games or psp games? | 20:38 |
| sciboy | I doubt it, | 20:40 |
| sciboy | We've got no hardware acceleration from what I understand. | 20:41 |
| sciboy | The hardware (PowerVR) is actually in there, but Nokia isn't supporting it so we can't use it. | 20:42 |
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| lopz | hola | 20:42 |
| sciboy | Hi lopz. | 20:43 |
| lopz | hey sciboy | 20:43 |
| _Monkey | sciboy is probably my username at gp32x? | 20:43 |
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| Tak | probably it could emulate games for any pre-3d-rendering system, given that somebody created an emulator targeted and optimized specifically for the IT hardware | 20:45 |
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| sciboy | How long before the N810 and OS2008 is being released? | 20:47 |
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| playya | i heard novembre | 20:48 |
| playya | the new OS loks great | 20:50 |
| sciboy | It looks different? | 20:50 |
| playya | yes | 20:50 |
| playya | the apps too | 20:50 |
| playya | i flashed my n800 with it by mistake | 20:51 |
| DRoBeR | Good evening, everyone. :) | 20:52 |
| playya | hi | 20:53 |
| sciboy | I want to flash mine with it too. =( | 20:53 |
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| playya | you cant reach this server from the internet | 20:56 |
| tko | where can you reach it from, then? | 20:57 |
| playya | internal | 20:57 |
| _Monkey | internal is, like, crap for me | 20:57 |
| playya | but it crashed all the time | 20:58 |
| playya | maybe one reason why its not out atm | 20:58 |
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| sciboy | MicroB is broke for me, but I can't be bothered reporting when the new browser is coming so soon. | 21:00 |
| playya | isnt a beta available? | 21:01 |
| Jiten | n800 was useful in an unexpected way :) I managed to configure my desktop debian system to get internet connectivity through my phone by copying the pppd config :) | 21:03 |
| sciboy | Heh. | 21:04 |
| Bobbywaz | lolsend | 21:05 |
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| doug1 | does anyone know if there is an official release date of OS2008 out yet? | 21:05 |
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| Bobbywaz | [13:48] playya: i heard novembre | 21:09 |
| Bobbywaz | [13:50] playya: the new OS loks great | 21:09 |
| Bobbywaz | [13:50] sciboy: It looks different? | 21:09 |
| Bobbywaz | [13:58] playya: but it crashed all the time | 21:10 |
| Bobbywaz | [13:58] playya: maybe one reason why its not out atm | 21:10 |
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| Bobbywaz | timriker spelled backwards is rekermit | 21:12 |
| Bobbywaz | it's the evil reincarnation of kermit the frog! | 21:12 |
| TimRiker | almost. | 21:12 |
| TimRiker | ~reverse timriker | 21:12 |
| infobot | rekirmit | 21:12 |
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| Bobbywaz | close enough | 21:13 |
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| TimRiker | ~reverse it's the evil reincarnation of kermit the frog! | 21:13 |
| Bobbywaz | ....muppet | 21:13 |
| infobot | !gorf eht timrek fo noitanracnier live eht s'ti | 21:13 |
| Bobbywaz | ~reverse racecar | 21:13 |
| infobot | racecar | 21:13 |
| Bobbywaz | it's broken. | 21:13 |
| Bobbywaz | ~reverse gohandasalami | 21:14 |
| sciboy | ~reverse sciboy | 21:14 |
| infobot | imalasadnahog | 21:14 |
| infobot | yobics | 21:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 21:14 |
| sciboy | ~reverse infobot | 21:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | BOT SPAM! | 21:14 |
| infobot | tobofni | 21:14 |
| Bobbywaz | ~reverse gohangasalami | 21:14 |
| infobot | imalasagnahog | 21:14 |
| sciboy | ~reverse GeneralAntilles | 21:14 |
| playya | ~reverse abtman | 21:14 |
| infobot | sellitnAlareneG | 21:14 |
| infobot | namtba | 21:14 |
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| TimRiker | ok.. take it to #botpark | 21:14 |
| Bobbywaz | go hang a salami backwards spells out I | 21:14 |
| Bobbywaz | I'm a lasanga hog | 21:14 |
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| playya | where can i get sqlite2.8 for ubunut? | 21:17 |
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| playya | i only have 3.0 | 21:18 |
| ccooke | playya: Gutsy's default version is 2.8.17-2.1build1 | 21:18 |
| playya | oh wrong channel | 21:19 |
| playya | should be in #mms | 21:19 |
| ccooke | that is, if you install "sqlite", you get 2.8.17-2.1build1. If you install sqlite3, you get "3.4.2-1build1" | 21:19 |
| playya | ok | 21:20 |
| soon | Hi folks - I'm considering a Nokia n800 - I want a PDA which can sync witk KDE Kontact ... what would ya'll recommend (I dont want any mini-screens either) | 21:20 |
| playya | i needed the dev package which is in libsplite-de ;) | 21:20 |
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| keesj | sciboy: what is broken about microb? | 21:24 |
| sciboy | It dies when I try to load any page. =P | 21:24 |
| keesj | I had that once | 21:25 |
| keesj | that time it was the .browser file that was wrongly configured to us opera | 21:25 |
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| Jiten | soon: at least OS2007 versions can't currently sync ... at least not with my phone (nokia 6120). | 21:30 |
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| Jiten | it might be possible to persuade opensync into doing it if you install the GPE suite and use that instead of the default program. | 21:31 |
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| soon | but does the n800 have a pim programme at ?all | 21:36 |
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| rev | not built-in, soon | 21:39 |
| rev | but you can add them | 21:39 |
| rev | not sure about syncing them with anything | 21:39 |
| rev | in my case, i never sync'd any PDA i've had, i use a PDA as a stand-alone computerish thing myself, whether its Newton OS, CE, Palm OS, or Linux | 21:39 |
| soon | ok | 21:41 |
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| Tak | haha, awesome | 23:05 |
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| Andy80 | hi all | 23:52 |
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| lopz | hola | 23:59 |
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