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| tko | sounds like visual basic.. or visual python.. or something :) | 00:00 |
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| melmoth | ok. I got it, i though it was actually python2.5-hildon | 00:03 |
| melmoth | this stuff will rox :) | 00:04 |
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| gpd | anyone got any advice on using an N800 to play media through speakers on a linux box. I have gmediaserver running upnp to my N800 but I can only get it to play on the tablet - not from the box | 01:08 |
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| gpd | maybe I should just use something like Jinzora instead... | 01:12 |
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| ChrisJTortoise | gpd: mpd? | 01:19 |
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| gpd | he left :( | 01:20 |
| gpd | Looks like MMPC miight work with mpd... worth contemplating | 01:21 |
| gpd | I seems a shame that I can't just install something on the linux box and then select that machine from the dropdown in mediastreamer | 01:21 |
| gpd | but I am lost for search terms for that option | 01:22 |
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| unique311 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/UserInterface | 02:54 |
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| ryanfaerman | when you are importing in GPE calendar, what kind of file is it expecting? | 03:00 |
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| notostraca | my screen is locked, but most of the keys work... | 04:26 |
| notostraca | except for the power key. | 04:26 |
| notostraca | there is not language foul enough to describe my feelings toward the application update software right now. | 04:28 |
| notostraca | anyone had this problem with the n800 with the latest OS version? | 04:30 |
| notostraca | at the very least, can someone tell me how to pry the battery out of its still-running case? | 04:35 |
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| notostraca | grrargh. | 04:46 |
| notostraca | zsh must have done it. | 04:53 |
| * notostraca slaps developer of zsh | 04:53 | |
| notostraca | bad installer! no biscuit! | 04:54 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Anybody here who might be able to tell my why Media Converter fails at converting everything? | 04:57 |
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| notostraca | media-convert.com , you mean? | 05:11 |
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| kulve | There has been so many questions again about the possibility to take a screenshot in the past few days, so I added my maemo screengrabber to dowloads.maemo.org.. | 06:59 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all .... | 10:14 |
| dev | gpd: the search term is UPnP MediaRenderer, and the Coherence one works with MediaStreamer (https://coherence.beebits.net) | 10:24 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | hi!! | 10:40 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i need help (as mccartney say) | 10:40 |
| Pr370r14n0 | is there anybody? | 10:40 |
| kulve | ask the question and maybe somebody will answer.. | 10:42 |
| kulve | why do people often join and ask if they can ask a question.. | 10:42 |
| Pr370r14n0 | first i have to say that my english is poor | 10:42 |
| Pr370r14n0 | sorry | 10:42 |
| inz | I've seen worse | 10:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i'm tring to enable the usb host in my n800 | 10:43 |
| inz | ...lot worse | 10:43 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | and i can't | 10:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i've patched the kernel | 10:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | http://www.muru.com/linux/n800-usb-host/ http://www.muru.com/linux/n800-usb-host/ | 10:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | with this patches | 10:43 |
| Pr370r14n0 | but when i try this: | 10:44 |
| Pr370r14n0 | echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode | 10:44 |
| Pr370r14n0 | n800 say me that it couldn'T create de file mode | 10:44 |
| Pr370r14n0 | (it alredy exists) | 10:44 |
| zuh | kulve: There are those too that join in awkward times, ask if anyone's there and a minute later declare the project dead and leave... | 10:44 |
| Pr370r14n0 | -sh: cannot create mode: Permission denied | 10:44 |
| kulve | zuh: yeah | 10:44 |
| kulve | Pr370r14n0: tried that as root? | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | yes | 10:45 |
| inz | "cannot create mode" suggests that the "file" doesn't exist | 10:45 |
| inz | Which seems like som'n went wrong with the kernel compilation | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i know | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | but it exists | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | Nokia-N800-51:/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc# cat mode | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | peripheral | 10:45 |
| Pr370r14n0 | look | 10:46 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i have made | 10:46 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | chmod u+w mode | 10:46 |
| Pr370r14n0 | echo host > mode | 10:46 |
| Pr370r14n0 | and n800 dont make any error | 10:46 |
| Pr370r14n0 | but the file mode still containing peripheral | 10:46 |
| kulve | does dmesg say something? | 10:47 |
| Pr370r14n0 | anyone have a n800 with usb host working? | 10:47 |
| Pr370r14n0 | kulve: nothing | 10:48 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:59 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | anybody? | 11:00 |
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| tigert | hmm | 11:03 |
| tigert | ./flasher --enable-usb-host-mode ? | 11:03 |
| tigert | does that work? | 11:03 |
| Pr370r14n0 | i think that this is only for 770 | 11:04 |
| Pr370r14n0 | but im going to try it now | 11:04 |
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| tigert | wait, lemme see if it worked | 11:04 |
| tigert | "peripheral" | 11:05 |
| tigert | duh | 11:05 |
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| tigert | you are right | 11:06 |
| tigert | but | 11:07 |
| tigert | I dont have the patched kernel anyway | 11:07 |
| tigert | so your mileage might vary? | 11:07 |
| Pr370r14n0 | it still not working:( | 11:07 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | any new ideas? | 11:09 |
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| Pr370r14n0 | well | 11:13 |
| Pr370r14n0 | any body have dsniff working in n800? | 11:14 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:20 |
| kulve | Pr370r14n0: did you read the dev-mailing list through? There are some disccusion about the host mode. Try searching with the "musb_hdrc" keyword | 11:22 |
| Pr370r14n0 | ok | 11:22 |
| Pr370r14n0 | thanks | 11:22 |
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| ptisserand | hi I'm currently tryinng to rebuild python-2.5 in scratchbox but it fails with: debian/rules:13: /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make: No such file or directory | 11:26 |
| ptisserand | does someone konw which package is missing ? | 11:26 |
| jonnylamb | ptisserand: quilt | 11:26 |
| ptisserand | jonnylamb: do you know from which repository I can retrieve it ? apt-cache search quit doesn't find this package | 11:27 |
| jonnylamb | ptisserand: Any Debian mirror will have it. | 11:28 |
| jonnylamb | If you want to be horrible, you can download the deb separately and dpkg -i it. | 11:28 |
| ptisserand | jonnylamb: ah ok, but that's right to install it from my scratchbox SDK_ARMEL ? | 11:28 |
| kulve | it seems to be "all" arch | 11:29 |
| jonnylamb | It's just a set of Makefile rules, it's arch-indep. | 11:29 |
| kulve | so, there shouldn't be problems installing it to a different arch than it was compiled int | 11:29 |
| jonnylamb | I'd recommend simply adding "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main" to /etc/apt/sources.list (assuming you're in the UK). | 11:29 |
| kulve | why an earth I have had so much troubles compiling it, when I could just have taken it as-is from debian :/ | 11:29 |
| ptisserand | ok thanks a lot for your help I will try to install quilt and check if it correct my error | 11:30 |
| jonnylamb | kulve: it? | 11:30 |
| kulve | quilt | 11:30 |
| jonnylamb | Mmm, Debian repos \o/ | 11:30 |
| kulve | I've build it for n800 and some other hardwares in the past. And for nothing.. | 11:31 |
| jonnylamb | Does it actually need "building"?! | 11:32 |
| kulve | packaging at least.. | 11:32 |
| jonnylamb | Haha, the quilt rules file patches itself! | 11:35 |
| jonnylamb | "Some extra love is needed to use ourselves without builddepending on us." | 11:35 |
| kulve | :) | 11:35 |
| geaaru | hi at all, anyone use sardine version? | 11:36 |
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| inz | geaaru, sometimes | 11:42 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 11:50 |
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| pna | inz, do you have some issues with the hildon-input? | 12:18 |
| pna | i can no using anymore my n800 | 12:18 |
| pna | because the keyboard applet seems dead | 12:19 |
| pna | no rising when I hit any text-input-field | 12:19 |
| pna | and i got an segfault when launch hildon-input-method | 12:20 |
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| geaaru | inz: pna question is same of mine? have you same problems? | 12:37 |
| geaaru | thank in advance | 12:37 |
| inz | Yes, no input methods | 12:37 |
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| pna | ah great, we are in many ;) | 12:37 |
| geaaru | have you found a solution? | 12:37 |
| pna | geaaru, not actually | 12:38 |
| inz | Hmm, I'm guessing the communication between apps and the keyboard has changed | 12:40 |
| inz | The keyboard starts and doesn't crash, but it still doesn't pop up | 12:41 |
| pna | how do you start the keyb, for me does not work neither | 12:42 |
| inz | I don't get to see it | 12:42 |
| inz | But if you ssh in and check ps, it's running | 12:42 |
| inz | Hmm, there's hildon-input-method-sdk in the repo, lessee... | 12:43 |
| pna | guess is the development kit | 12:44 |
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| inz | yeah, no luck... | 12:49 |
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| geaaru | so, there isn't a solution for use hildon-input-method on sardine :'( | 12:53 |
| inz | Humm... | 12:55 |
| X-Fade | geaaru: I think it is time to file a bug. Make your problem known.. | 12:56 |
| X-Fade | Product:haf, component im? | 12:57 |
| pna | yes | 12:57 |
| pna | X-Fade, sendin a main to the dev ml | 13:00 |
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| geaaru | yes i think that is a very very critical bug :-P | 13:05 |
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| keesj | '' | 14:06 |
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| vnese | hello, i have edited to my gtk+ source somehow using the hildon desktop functions, but when i compile it, do i need sth like hildon library ? | 14:29 |
| vnese | and why my native gtk+ app looks so ugly when i ported it to maemo | 14:30 |
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| keesj | vnese: did you follow the 3.0 porting howto on maemo.org ? | 14:35 |
| vnese | yes | 14:35 |
| vnese | keesj: i followed it to the section of creating desktop, service files | 14:35 |
| vnese | and i got stuck there | 14:35 |
| vnese | i triied ./configure , make, even make install, i saw my app in the navigation but it just didnt run | 14:36 |
| keesj | and it starts when running command line? | 14:37 |
| keesj | and configure --prefix=/usr ? | 14:37 |
| vnese | yes, keesj, i tried like : /usr/local/lib/myapp but the GUI is very ugly | 14:37 |
| keesj | i only created sdl and home applets , I can't help you | 14:38 |
| keesj | (and played with wxLua) :p | 14:39 |
| vnese | so, wxwindows with lua language ? | 14:39 |
| keesj | yes, pretty funny if you ask me | 14:39 |
| gwak | keesj: was it easy to compile lua ? | 14:39 |
| onion | vnese: are your running the app inside the desktop or standalone ? | 14:39 |
| keesj | gwak: lua yes very | 14:40 |
| vnese | onion: eh, neither, when i clicked on the navigation it didnt run, so i try it on command line | 14:41 |
| vnese | and i try run-standalone too but the gui is even uglier | 14:41 |
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| keesj | gwak: wxlua was a bit harder, and the package is still not 100% | 14:43 |
| keesj | I created a . install file http://cosy-home.garage.maemo.org/packages/wxlua.install | 14:44 |
| gwak | keejs:great, i will try that this evening | 14:44 |
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| keesj | gwak: perhaps this post is also nice http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/keesj/2007/02/07/p49#more49 | 14:45 |
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| gwak | keesj:hmm it seems that this project http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?JiveArchitecture uses lua + sdl | 14:46 |
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| gwak | keesj: i like the look of lua tho, very pyhonish | 14:50 |
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| keesj | I am not a huge python fan. but I do like lua. I love ruby | 14:53 |
| keesj | when I first looked at wxruby2 it was not mature enough (and very slow) | 14:53 |
| konttori | just out of curiosity: what is it about python that you don't like | 14:53 |
| keesj | konttori: the "self" thingy, just like when you try to write OO in perl | 14:54 |
| konttori | as opposed to: this in java? | 14:55 |
| keesj | and ruby gives me pure love | 14:55 |
| gwak | it does make python classes a bit wordy | 14:55 |
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| keesj | in java almoost everything is an object , there is a this , but you don't have to send the "self" object as first argument to each and every function | 14:56 |
| keesj | I guess that when you compare it to bash or perl is't much better. | 14:57 |
| konttori | well, that's a minor grip. And on the bonus side, you can call it s if you like (or whatever). | 14:57 |
| keesj | :P | 14:57 |
| konttori | You don't send the self argument as parameter. It's just a definition in the function itself, not in the function call. | 14:57 |
| gwak | for any python fan i just saw this: | 14:58 |
| gwak | http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=208549 | 14:58 |
| keesj | but it looks like python will be the choice of maemo so I need to learn to love it | 14:58 |
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| konttori | I really don't think any language is that superior to another. They each have their good points and bad points. In the end, after a short getting used to, they are pretty much equal. | 14:59 |
| suihkulokki | so just port ruby for maemo :) | 14:59 |
| konttori | Well, except if you really need especially just those niceties. then obviously it makes sense to pick that one. | 14:59 |
| keesj | suihkulokki I did it , it was to slow :( | 15:00 |
| gwak | i guess python has a few more years of dev then ruby | 15:00 |
| gwak | according to wikipedia 1995 for Ruby and 1991 for Python | 15:01 |
| suihkulokki | the problem that people continue to reinvent things instead of improving existing... | 15:02 |
| konttori | gwak: nice article. thanks | 15:02 |
| gla55 | one has a luxury if choosing the language is possible | 15:02 |
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| Toni | finnish would be good programming language.. | 15:05 |
| keesj | suihkulokki: reinvent is a bit strong argument, there is something called evolution, we don't all want to be programming pascal for the rest of our lives | 15:05 |
| gwak | Toni:heh, can you read finnish? | 15:05 |
| keesj | gwak: can you read perl? | 15:06 |
| keesj | back to work.... | 15:06 |
| Toni | gwak: even my kids can ;) | 15:06 |
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| Sho_ | It's really a shame that the input method isn't toolkit-neutral | 15:06 |
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| gwak | toni:could you take a look at this link, i am trying to update some firmware , but the site is all in finnish | 15:07 |
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| greedo | hello, is there xournal for the n800 ? | 15:07 |
| gwak | toni:nevermind - i missed the 'english' flag button | 15:07 |
| gwak | on the site | 15:07 |
| konttori | greedo: at least there was | 15:08 |
| konttori | http://downloads.maemo.org/product/xournal | 15:08 |
| Toni | gwak: if you look at the /who list on #maemo you notice that quite many here can be expected to be able to read Finnish.. | 15:08 |
| greedo | too bad it's for it2006 | 15:08 |
| konttori | might still work on itos 2007. | 15:09 |
| gwak | Toni:ok, then no finnish jokes here ;-] | 15:09 |
| greedo | yeah could try | 15:09 |
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| * konttori just filed a enhancement request to bugs maemo to ask for download counters to downloads.maemo.org applications. | 15:13 | |
| konttori | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1560 | 15:13 |
| greedo | i would be happy with proper filtering :D | 15:15 |
| konttori | what do you mean by proper filtering? | 15:16 |
| greedo | filtering on downloads.maemo.org doesn't work | 15:17 |
| konttori | True | 15:19 |
| fatal- | btw, where is the source for dspctl? | 15:20 |
| kulve | konttori: about the downloads. I added my screengrabber to downloads since there has been so many questions about how to get a screenshot.. ;) | 15:20 |
| konttori | great! | 15:21 |
| konttori | thanks! | 15:21 |
| konttori | That was an app with GUI, right? | 15:21 |
| keesj | konttori: I was about to do the same this morning. | 15:22 |
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| konttori | I filed a bug on the filtering: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 | 15:23 |
| kulve | konttori: not really. Just a meny entry that launches osso-screenshot-tool | 15:23 |
| konttori | Ahh... ok, well, if it has some delay, then that's perfectly fine. | 15:23 |
| kulve | i.e. start the "app" and after 5secs you have a screenshot | 15:24 |
| konttori | that's great, I think. | 15:24 |
| kulve | let me know if it isn't :) | 15:24 |
| * konttori filed feature request for anonymous people to be able to rate apps as well. | 15:29 | |
| konttori | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1562 | 15:29 |
| konttori | I believe they are the ones that should be rating the apps, not developers. | 15:29 |
| kulve | yep | 15:29 |
| konttori | And currently it's so that almost only developers (and nokia people) have accounts. | 15:30 |
| kulve | anonymous can cheat on those votes easily though.. | 15:30 |
| konttori | Yeah, well, put a staff rating as well. | 15:30 |
| konttori | And at the moment, I don't think it would be worse than no stars at all. | 15:31 |
| * keesj added https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1563 Application installer to send feedback to the providing site if install fails | 15:31 | |
| konttori | And at the moment, if you have one vote, you can put 5 stars to your application. And yes, you can rate your own application at the moment. | 15:31 |
| konttori | keesj: Very nice idea | 15:34 |
| konttori | I commented on it. (in support) | 15:34 |
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| unique311 | anybody home | 17:21 |
| unique311 | ??? | 17:21 |
| unique311 | Makefile:301: *** missing separator. Stop. | 17:21 |
| * feig is at work | 17:21 | |
| unique311 | i get this error... | 17:21 |
| unique311 | for this line | 17:21 |
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| unique311 | (cd $$subdir && $(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) $$local_target) \ | 17:21 |
| kulve | unique311: you should have tab somewwhere (in the beginning of the line) but you have space? | 17:21 |
| kulve | +s | 17:21 |
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| unique311 | thanks kulve | 17:27 |
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| greedo | are you aware of open source icons / graphics in png or svg that represent country flags ? | 17:52 |
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| X-Fade | greedo: Check for 'flag svg' on wikipedia.. | 17:59 |
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| X-Fade | All those flag svgs are public domain.. | 18:02 |
| greedo | thx! | 18:04 |
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| Blacksito | hi | 18:47 |
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| unique311 | hmmmmm | 18:50 |
| unique311 | what is going on here | 18:50 |
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| unique311 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/nokia800/20070518/ | 18:50 |
| unique311 | n800 | 18:50 |
| unique311 | angstrom for the n800 | 18:50 |
| unique311 | do i have it right... | 18:51 |
| unique311 | it says nokia800 | 18:51 |
| b0unc3 | it's an error or it is for N800 ? | 18:53 |
| unique311 | i think its for the n800 | 18:53 |
| unique311 | theirs another folder for nokia 770 | 18:53 |
| unique311 | but its empty... | 18:54 |
| unique311 | so i think it is for the N800 | 18:54 |
| unique311 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/nokia770/ | 18:54 |
| unique311 | it is... | 18:55 |
| unique311 | this guy Koen Kooi is the mentor for the project.. | 18:56 |
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| unique311 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ | 18:57 |
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| koen | those are experiments to get a 99.9% opensource image running on the n800 | 18:57 |
| vnese | hello, i got some probs with the app which i ported from GTK+ to maemo | 18:57 |
| unique311 | mid way, nokia770 and nokia800 | 18:57 |
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| vnese | i cant use the function gtk_wigdet_show /hide in maemo | 18:58 |
| unique311 | whats the percentage like on the N800 koen? | 18:58 |
| koen | only the umac.ko kernel-module is binary | 18:58 |
| konttori | Sorry to be ignorant, but what is angstrom? | 18:59 |
| vnese | and i cant catch motion_notify_event too | 18:59 |
| nelson | konttori: Koen's fork of Familiar. | 18:59 |
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| koen | nelson: it's not a fork | 18:59 |
| nelson | konttori: and if your next question is "what is Familiar?" it's the Handhelds.org distro. | 19:00 |
| unique311 | fork being a good thing or bad? | 19:00 |
| nelson | koen: no, of course ... it's a "move". | 19:00 |
| nelson | hehe. | 19:00 |
| konttori | I was actually already trying to get screenshot of it in the net | 19:00 |
| konttori | http://opie.handhelds.org/gallery/main.php | 19:00 |
| koen | nelson: it is something completely new, it isn't based on familiar | 19:00 |
| nelson | unique311: you can never tell with forks. Takes time. | 19:01 |
| nelson | Angstrom is based on Familiar. | 19:01 |
| unique311 | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20587 konttorri | 19:01 |
| unique311 | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20587 konttori | 19:01 |
| koen | nelson: how so? | 19:01 |
| koen | nelson: any evidence for that? | 19:01 |
| koen | last I checked familiar wasn't EABI | 19:01 |
| nelson | Koen: errrr, Angstrom is your fork of Familiar after we fired you as distro manager. | 19:02 |
| koen | angstrom exist way before that | 19:02 |
| konttori | unique311: so, is that basically stripped gnome desktop? | 19:02 |
| * nelson leaves Koen in his fantasy world. | 19:02 | |
| koen | funny how something based on openzaurus is not a fork of familiar | 19:02 |
| zyxulnag1 | how does one flash the image? | 19:03 |
| zyxulnag1 | is it done with the standard nokia utility? | 19:03 |
| unique311 | most distro's out there or forks...nothing wrong with forks... | 19:03 |
| nelson | nothing wrong with forks. | 19:03 |
| nelson | Sometimes they're better than the original. | 19:03 |
| nelson | For example, it looks like the GPE-Linuxtogo fork is better than the GPE-Handhelds original. | 19:04 |
| konttori | So, is angstom good for end user use? | 19:04 |
| unique311 | fork is such a strong word...how about a distro based on another... | 19:04 |
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| nelson | unique311: I think people are unreasonably afraid of forks. | 19:04 |
| nelson | forks exist because of a problem .... nobody forks if there are no problems to be solved. | 19:05 |
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| nelson | doesn't mean that a fork is inevitable, just that a fork is a reasonable solution to some problems. | 19:05 |
| vnese | any idea pls | 19:05 |
| nelson | vnese: I have no idea, sorry. | 19:05 |
| unique311 | so familiar is all you then nelson? | 19:07 |
| unique311 | when can we expect that on the n800? | 19:07 |
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| nelson | unique311: sigh. It really belongs on the n800, but I have too many demands on my time. | 19:08 |
| zyxulnag1 | oh it uses the same kernel as the one supplied by nokia | 19:09 |
| unique311 | which zyxulnag1 | 19:10 |
| zyxulnag1 | zImage-2.6.18-osso29-nokia800 | 19:10 |
| unique311 | familiar or angstrom | 19:10 |
| zyxulnag1 | angstorm | 19:10 |
| nelson | oh, yeah, you'd be crazy not to. | 19:10 |
| unique311 | guessing we gonna see that on n800 before familiar.. | 19:10 |
| zyxulnag1 | I was hoping it had a better wireless/usb driver | 19:10 |
| nelson | yep. | 19:10 |
| unique311 | same thing so its no biggie | 19:10 |
| nelson | no, it's not the same thing. That's why Koen forked it. | 19:11 |
| unique311 | when can we expect this koen? | 19:11 |
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| koen | nelson: again, support your slander with evidence | 19:12 |
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| zyxulnag1 | koen: are you using the n800 drivers for wireless? | 19:12 |
| koen | zyxulnag1: yes | 19:12 |
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| koen | you need the umac.ko that nokia ships with the device | 19:12 |
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| VimS | hello everybody | 20:09 |
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| Blacksitox | hi | 20:29 |
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| TimRiker | ~logs | 20:39 |
| infobot | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz | 20:39 |
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| trevarthan | Man, I just installed my dev version of ukmp on my win32 machine. All I did was install python 2.5 and pygame, then feed python the path to MediaCenter. graphics, audio, and sqlite worked out of the box. Python is amazing. | 20:53 |
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| tko | I tried installing ukmp and gave up after failing with second level dependencies | 20:57 |
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| tko | it's sad when stuff doesn't "just work" even with a centrally available repository | 20:58 |
| trevarthan | tko: all ukmp requires is python. you can get that from the pymaemo project. | 21:00 |
| trevarthan | I'm not sure what you mean by second level. | 21:01 |
| tko | ukmp complains about python, trying to install python complains about sdl something IIRC, I give up | 21:01 |
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| melmoth | worked out of the box (but i already had python2.5-runtime installed that may ship nearly all that is pyhton related) | 21:06 |
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| trevarthan | yeah, python 2.5 should be all you need. | 21:09 |
| trevarthan | tko: you using an n800? | 21:09 |
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| tko | yep.. not having python I looked it up from the application catalog | 21:10 |
| trevarthan | huh. I already had python on my n800. not sure where I got it from. | 21:11 |
| trevarthan | canola maybe? | 21:11 |
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| luck^ | trevarthan, tko, download it from pymaemo.garage.maemo.org | 21:12 |
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| tko | so it's not in the obvious place, is it? | 21:14 |
| aCiDBaSe | why not? | 21:14 |
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| melmoth | deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free | 21:15 |
| melmoth | apt-get install python2.5-runtime (from memory , not 100% about spelling) and here you go. | 21:16 |
| luck^ | melmoth, its right | 21:17 |
| aCiDBaSe | melmoth: I think you need do add: deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free too... | 21:17 |
| luck^ | you can use the .install files from pymaemo website | 21:17 |
| tko | luck^: not the one from application catalog? | 21:17 |
| luck^ | tko, that one will have some unmet dependencies, because it doesn't install the base repository | 21:18 |
| melmoth | aCiDBaSe, possible..i have this one as well :) | 21:18 |
| tko | nice going... | 21:19 |
| tko | doesn't anyone think of the users? | 21:19 |
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| aCiDBaSe | we can't add more than one repo to the apt/Application Installer using a .install file and python requires some dependencies from Maemo SDK repository... | 21:19 |
| aCiDBaSe | then we need to provide 2 .install files | 21:20 |
| luck^ | I think the new application installer will support install files with more than 1 source repository | 21:20 |
| aCiDBaSe | one to add the Maemo SDK repository and other to add the Extras repository (and install python2.5-runtime) | 21:20 |
| trevarthan | bare minimum we shouldn't be putting things in the app installer that depend on external repos. | 21:22 |
| trevarthan | BTW, konttori and I have ukmp caching ID3 meta data in our dev versions right now. He wrote one that uses flat files and I wrote one that uses sqlite. I'm waiting on him to decide which we'll use in the immediate future. I think ukmp stands a good chance at being the best player for maemo a few months from now. | 21:24 |
| trevarthan | I'm going to be working on a2dpd support in the next few days. | 21:24 |
| trevarthan | should be sweet. | 21:24 |
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| JohnMeacham | anyone know how to mount an nfs volume on the N800? | 22:19 |
| kulve | yeah | 22:20 |
| kulve | load the modules, install real mount and mount | 22:21 |
| kulve | (I think | 22:21 |
| kulve | ) | 22:21 |
| zuh | Yes | 22:21 |
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| zuh | (no GUI ways around that I know of) | 22:22 |
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| tko | zuh: I think you missed step 0: write GUI for... :) | 22:29 |
| zuh | tko: Yeah, it should be "write/port gnomevfs-plugin and make the filemanager allow mounting" but I guess that's not going to happen ;) | 22:31 |
| zuh | Well, I guess the plugin would be mostly unneccessary | 22:31 |
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| VimS | no one know about libglade2 ? | 23:02 |
| VimS | :( | 23:02 |
| keesj | no one knows about how to setup sbox under ubuntu festy , and get the dns working! | 23:03 |
| * VimS is googles sbox ;) | 23:04 | |
| mgedmin | keesj: it's a faq | 23:04 |
| mgedmin | find the broken nsswitch.conf and remove mdns from it | 23:05 |
| mgedmin | iirc it's in /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf | 23:05 |
| VimS | ahh scratchbox -_- | 23:05 |
| mgedmin | and the important line is the one that should say "hosts: files dns" but instead mentions two more (nonexistent) modules | 23:05 |
| VimS | seems like everybody got a n800 these days, hm? :/ | 23:06 |
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| keesj | mgedmin: you make me feel so good! thanks | 23:08 |
| keesj | is was looking in /etc/ of the sbox target | 23:08 |
| keesj | (I am using the new sbox package from sbox.org) | 23:09 |
| mgedmin | yes, that's confusing | 23:10 |
| keesj | I guess they must have worked very hard to make it not work :P | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | there's resolv.conf in the target's /etc, and also in the target's /scratchbox/etc | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | same with nsswitch.conf | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | (and target's /scratchbox is the same as host's /scratchbox due to the magick of bind mounts) | 23:11 |
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