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| unique311 | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~/basil] > fakeroot ./BasiliskII | 01:18 | 
|---|---|---|
| unique311 | Basilisk II V0.9 by Christian Bauer et al. | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | Reading ROM file... | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | WARNING: Cannot open /dev/fd0H1440 (No such device or address) | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | WARNING: Cannot open /dev/fd1H1440 (No such device or address) | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | Error: Bad syscall: 90008c | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | qemu: unhandled CPU exception 0x2 - aborting | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | qemu issue? | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | thats the top portion of the error. | 01:18 | 
| unique311 | its followed by a bunch of wierd numbers | 01:18 | 
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| unique311 | heres a pastebin of everything else | 01:20 | 
| unique311 | http://pastebin.ca/466299 | 01:21 | 
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| Tak|work | it's looking for a floppy drive... | 01:25 | 
| unique311 | and thats the reason its dying on me.. | 01:25 | 
| * Tak|work shrugs | 01:26 | |
| unique311 | k, so gotta compile and leave out the fact that it wants floppy drve | 01:26 | 
| unique311 | tak you shrug way too | 01:26 | 
| Tak|work | it's my primary method of communication | 01:26 | 
| unique311 | hmmmm | 01:27 | 
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| sussman | hi | 01:32 | 
| user_ | hi all | 01:32 | 
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| user_ | anyone usingg an n800:.. and willing to test video chat? | 01:33 | 
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| sussman | user_: I can try | 01:47 | 
| sussman | I´m testing a bluetooth keyboard right now | 01:47 | 
| user_ | hi suss....itd be great im online on google talk now r u? | 01:56 | 
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| Pupnik | one of the Frodo devs has been mucking with an sdl frontend since April 18 2006 at least | 02:02 | 
| unique311 | hating life right now.. | 02:02 | 
| Pupnik | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?s=9883923565eca13658a9d146a5b78580&act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=6f6dac57933995235d366f7297cfeab2&search_in=posts&result_type=posts | 02:02 | 
| Pupnik | unique311: you got it to compile though, that's good | 02:03 | 
| Pupnik | sorry for that url | 02:03 | 
| Pupnik | what's it doing now? | 02:03 | 
| unique311 | well that was 0.9 | 02:03 | 
| user_ | anyonw wish to test n800 video chat? | 02:03 | 
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| unique311 | i want to see if 1.0 will give me better results | 02:03 | 
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| unique311 | thinking should be a way to compile 0.9 and not have it need those danm floppy drive | 02:05 | 
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| bhima | woot. easy to work with 5v DC/DC converter, single cell. | 02:07 | 
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| bhima | Does anybody still want a USB power injector? :) | 02:08 | 
| user_ | any1 can test n800 video? | 02:08 | 
| user_ | not me, thx | 02:09 | 
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| bill20r3 | user_ whats your jabber address? | 02:10 | 
| bhima | user_: well, you have an n800, so you shouldn't want it. :P | 02:10 | 
| bill20r3 | bhima, does it come with n800 usb hostmode drivers. :-/ | 02:11 | 
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| bhima | bill20r3: No. It comes with nothing. Aren't there working n800 hostmode drivers now? | 02:11 | 
| bill20r3 | not last time I checked, a week or two ago. | 02:12 | 
| bhima | Somebody had something, I"m certain of that. | 02:12 | 
| * bill20r3 googles | 02:12 | |
| bhima | And they found out that there is actually a 5v power source in the n800. | 02:12 | 
| user_ | got it? | 02:12 | 
| bill20r3 | user_, I have my N800 ready, bill@xmission.com | 02:12 | 
| user_ | ok lets try | 02:13 | 
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| bill20r3 | ok, call me. | 02:13 | 
| user_ | trying calling you.... | 02:14 | 
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| bill20r3 | are you fbarousse? | 02:15 | 
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| user_ | contact unable to call... | 02:16 | 
| user_ | bill, did u get simething | 02:17 | 
| user_ | yes thats me | 02:17 | 
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| bill20r3 | I got the request, but I declined it becuase I didnt know who it was. | 02:18 | 
| bill20r3 | try once more. | 02:18 | 
| user_ | ah... i see now | 02:18 | 
| user_ | ok | 02:18 | 
| user_ | contact unable to call. again | 02:19 | 
| bill20r3 | is that the right spelling "fbarousse" ? | 02:19 | 
| user_ | yes | 02:19 | 
| bill20r3 | ok, I'll try calling you | 02:19 | 
| user_ | @jabber.org | 02:19 | 
| user_ | ok | 02:19 | 
| bill20r3 | "contact unable to talk" | 02:20 | 
| bill20r3 | "waiting for video" | 02:20 | 
| bill20r3 | "camera off" | 02:21 | 
| * bill20r3 trys again. | 02:21 | |
| bill20r3 | did you get anything? | 02:21 | 
| user_ | got my auth? | 02:21 | 
| bill20r3 | I did now. | 02:21 | 
| bill20r3 | it said "Calling" and then "Disconnected" after just a second or two. | 02:22 | 
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| user_ | seems we r online now | 02:22 | 
| bill20r3 | I think I'm behind firewall at the moment, that may be a problem. | 02:23 | 
| user_ | maybe.... im on a public wifi spot | 02:23 | 
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| bill20r3 | probablly just has common ports open. | 02:24 | 
| user_ | do u get my call request? | 02:24 | 
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| user_ | Where r u, bbtw? | 02:24 | 
| bill20r3 | I didnt' get the call request, I'm in Salt Lake City, Utah. | 02:25 | 
| bill20r3 | in the US | 02:25 | 
| user_ | maybe we can try again later today or tomorrow... | 02:25 | 
| user_ | nice city yours. im in mexico city, mexico | 02:26 | 
| bill20r3 | I'll try to log on later from home. | 02:26 | 
| user_ | ok, me too....look 4 me later on then. either here on ircc or on my jabber acct | 02:27 | 
| * Pupnik_ loves XviD | 02:28 | |
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| Pupnik_ | mplayer / mencoder is so great... TV shows in great quality at 80MB per show | 02:42 | 
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| Pupnik_ | btw anyone working on media players, please look into adding equalization to audio | 04:02 | 
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| Pupnik_ | i seem to notice sdl being slower on it2007 hacker ed | 04:27 | 
| Pupnik_ | need to benchmark | 04:27 | 
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| Pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Exult_N770_800x480_Optimized_XviD.avi | 04:48 | 
| Pupnik | Exult Ultima 7 remake, running with scale2x in full 800x480 and new movement method, on it2006, on Nokia 770 | 04:48 | 
| unique311 | nice | 04:51 | 
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| Pupnik | yeah i'm trying to get that tap-to-move hack working stably | 04:54 | 
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| Pupnik | right now there's a problem with picking-up objects, and also getting object info, with that hack enabled | 04:54 | 
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| sussman | does anyone have the dvorak xkb keyboard map for the n800? | 05:34 | 
| Pupnik | my goodness :) no | 05:34 | 
| Pupnik | hooray nokia for it2007 on 770: http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/356 | 05:34 | 
| Pupnik | big hug from Pupnik... | 05:34 | 
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| derf | So why isn't my N800 writing to /etc/resolv.conf when it gets a connection? | 06:14 | 
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| febb | hi all | 06:17 | 
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| Pupnik | hi derf, febb | 06:18 | 
| Pupnik | derf, my 770 doesn't either | 06:18 | 
| febb | hi Pupnik how are you tonight ? | 06:19 | 
| derf | Okay, the answer was _not_ to apt-get remove dnsmasq. | 06:19 | 
| derf | I think I just bricked it. | 06:19 | 
| derf | Removing osso-connectivity-ui ... | 06:19 | 
| derf | Removing osso-connectivity-ui-connmgr ... | 06:19 | 
| derf | Removing osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs ... | 06:19 | 
| derf | Removing osso-connectivity ... | 06:19 | 
| derf | Removing osso-ic ... | 06:19 | 
| derf | And of course you can't install them again. | 06:20 | 
| febb | has anyone used remote X applications through the Nokia 770/N800 X terminal ? that is ssh+xterm ----> remote X application started | 06:22 | 
| Pupnik | i think people have done x over ssh on nokia yes | 06:23 | 
| febb | ok ...good I am able to open the remote X app and it displays on the Nokia's screen, nevertheless I cant send keystrokes from the Nokia to the remote app. | 06:23 | 
| febb | any hints on what may be wrong / required ? | 06:24 | 
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| derf | Oh, well, I probably needed to upgrade to IT2007 anyway. | 06:27 | 
| Pupnik | it's kind of a mess with it2007 and apps | 06:28 | 
| Pupnik | for e.g. you have to install the it2006 / 770 mplayer | 06:28 | 
| Pupnik | but some other apps you can use the bora ones | 06:28 | 
| Pupnik | febb - i haven't tried it | 06:29 | 
| Pupnik | febb - using what keyboard device? | 06:29 | 
| Pupnik | febb - from what i understand the virtual keyboard doesn't send regular X11 keyboard events | 06:29 | 
| febb | Pupnik, thanks for your comments. I am using the virtual on screen keybd on the N800, I dont need an externall BT keybd, | 06:30 | 
| febb | i just need the on screen keybd keystrokes to get sent to the remote X app. | 06:31 | 
| febb | which displays fine on the IT. | 06:31 | 
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| Pupnik | febb if you find out how to do that, let me know. Many non-hildonised apps do not work with onscreen keyboard, because it doesn't send regular X11 key events | 06:32 | 
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| febb | Pupnik I read somewhere that some X keyboard libraries, related to osso term as well were required to do so. The problem is I can't find that reference again.....:( | 06:33 | 
| Pupnik | i would be interested in a hack to manually bring up a virtual keyboard, and have it generate key events for things like sdl apps | 06:34 | 
| febb | yeah. I use the IT to log into remote unix servers for tech support issues, The remote X facility would be a great plus for the IT. | 06:35 | 
| febb | of course there is VNC viewer, but that is not always available... | 06:35 | 
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| derf | Pupnik: I can show you how to bring up the keyboard. | 06:37 | 
| Pupnik | derf, do you think it could be hacked to appear on-top of a fullscreen sdl app? | 06:38 | 
| derf | Probably. | 06:38 | 
| Pupnik | wow :) | 06:38 | 
| derf | You might have to do that hacking in SDL, though. | 06:38 | 
| derf | But you could try it. | 06:38 | 
| unique311 | got it | 06:39 | 
| unique311 | finally | 06:39 | 
| unique311 | basiliskII | 06:39 | 
| Pupnik | derf, if you have any keywords, or urls for me, i'll be glad to copy them for later use | 06:40 | 
| Pupnik | congrats unique311 | 06:40 | 
| unique311 | thanks man.. | 06:40 | 
| unique311 | and i was just about to call it quits.. | 06:40 | 
| febb | by the way, is there a vnc SERVER for the N800 ? | 06:40 | 
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| unique311 | found the gp2x source for 1.0 and no sigsegv error | 06:40 | 
| Pupnik | dunno febb | 06:41 | 
| Pupnik | unique311: you got a gp2x version of basilisk running on n800? | 06:41 | 
| febb | thx. the one on maemo.org is broken for the n800 | 06:41 | 
| unique311 | well it was the src for the gp2x | 06:41 | 
| unique311 | compiled with no errors.. | 06:42 | 
| Pupnik | wow nice | 06:42 | 
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| Pupnik | so it uses SDl for output, not /dev/fb0? | 06:42 | 
| derf | Pupnik: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/uim-1.2.1-maemo/gtk/gtk-im-uim.c?root=maemocjk&view=markup | 06:42 | 
| derf | Look for the functions maemo_cjk_keyboard_hide() and maemo_cjk_keyboard_show() | 06:43 | 
| Pupnik | very good, thanks | 06:43 | 
| derf | They're GTK'ized right now, but it shouldn't be hard to do it in pure X11. | 06:43 | 
| Pupnik | i have to change away from a stack-based project model | 06:45 | 
| Pupnik | the stuff at the bottom is not getting done :/ | 06:45 | 
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| Pupnik | it2007 is dropping wifi connection despite being pinged constantly by my pc host | 07:35 | 
| Pupnik | aah derf, the resolv.conf is /tmp/resolv.conf.wlan0 | 07:41 | 
| Pupnik | see /etc/udhcpc/udhcpc.script for details | 07:41 | 
| * Pupnik is testing derf's acmonitor_n800 script on N770 with it2007 to keep connection alive http://planetmath.cc.vt.edu/~derf/local/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/acmonitor_0.1_armel.deb | 07:42 | |
| Pupnik | hmm mistral? :) | 07:43 | 
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| Pupnik | so far no disconnects | 07:52 | 
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| Tak | hmm, my app manager is bork | 07:59 | 
| Pupnik | i can never remember the apt/dpkg stuff i learn | 08:01 | 
| Pupnik | white border around xterm-advanced is highly annoying - currently trying to find what part of the theme controls it | 08:02 | 
| Tak | brb, going to try rebooting | 08:05 | 
| Tak | hmm, it appears to be nonbroken now | 08:11 | 
| Pupnik | scp to rs-mmc is always slow -- 300kB/s :( | 08:16 | 
| Pupnik | Tak, what are you up to? | 08:17 | 
| Tak | playing with minimo | 08:17 | 
| * Pupnik is making a dark theme out of the it2007 default | 08:17 | |
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| Pupnik | plus scp keeps stalling periodically | 08:20 | 
| Pupnik | maybe it's the rs-mmc card doing some allocation/management during a big copy | 08:21 | 
| Tak | wow, it *really* doesn't | 08:23 | 
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| Tak | work well with the thumbboard | 08:23 | 
| Pupnik | it2007 or minimo? | 08:23 | 
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| Tak | minimo | 08:37 | 
| Tak | it needs a *lot* of work | 08:39 | 
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| derf | Pupnik: Yes, I found that out _now_. | 09:01 | 
| derf | It is too late, however. | 09:01 | 
| derf | Pupnik: What did you do about libconic not being there? | 09:04 | 
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| Pupnik | derf, it didn't complain about missing libconic | 09:07 | 
| derf | Oh, on IT2007. | 09:07 | 
| Pupnik | yes | 09:08 | 
| derf | Yeah, I guess you're golden then. | 09:08 | 
| derf | The brightness settings stuff still works, too? | 09:09 | 
| Pupnik | it didn't start | 09:10 | 
| derf | What do you mean? | 09:10 | 
| Pupnik | well i think so | 09:10 | 
| Pupnik | i don't recall what process name it starts for the daemon | 09:11 | 
| Pupnik | but it just now didn't change brightness | 09:11 | 
| derf | It's the same deamon that keeps your connection alive. | 09:11 | 
| derf | If one is running, the other has to be. There's only one process. | 09:11 | 
| Pupnik | i'm still trying to ssh-in | 09:11 | 
| Pupnik | ah now it connected | 09:12 | 
| Pupnik | ok /usr/bin/acmonitor is running | 09:13 | 
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| derf | That's the one. | 09:13 | 
| Pupnik | not changing the brightness though despite setting in both states | 09:13 | 
| derf | Damn. I guess they broke my reverse engineering. | 09:14 | 
| Pupnik | dbus-monitor --system shows charger connecting | 09:14 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=charger_disconnected | 09:14 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=charger_connected | 09:14 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=charger_charging_on | 09:14 | 
| derf | No charger_charging_off before the charger_disconnected? | 09:16 | 
| Pupnik | correct | 09:16 | 
| Pupnik | testing again | 09:16 | 
| derf | Well, that's a problem. | 09:16 | 
| Pupnik | lost connection again | 09:17 | 
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| Pupnik | going to stop acmonitor and test again | 09:18 | 
| Pupnik | ok same sequence - just "charger_disconnected" | 09:19 | 
| derf | Yeah, that'll break it. | 09:19 | 
| Pupnik | else if(strcmp("charger_charging_off",member)==0) | 09:19 | 
| Pupnik | so i could just change the strings and look for charger connected/disconnected | 09:20 | 
| derf | Well, there's a reason it's using that one. | 09:20 | 
| Pupnik | ok so perhaps this should be filed as a bug to the it2007 on 770 garage page? | 09:21 | 
| derf | Can you do a dbus-send --system /com/nokia/bme/request com.nokia.bme.request.status_info_req ? | 09:21 | 
| Pupnik | i can copy that text | 09:21 | 
| derf | Hopefully that's right. | 09:21 | 
| Pupnik | ok done | 09:22 | 
| Pupnik | didn't return anything though | 09:22 | 
| Pupnik | perhaps i should have kept the dbus-monitor --system running? | 09:23 | 
| Pupnik | ah yes :) ok | 09:23 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=battery_state_changed uint32 4 | 09:23 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=charger_charging_on | 09:23 | 
| derf | Now do it with the AC adapter unplugged. | 09:23 | 
| Pupnik | hey the charging window came up! | 09:24 | 
| Pupnik | same output | 09:24 | 
| Pupnik | oh no | 09:24 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=battery_state_changed | 09:24 | 
| Pupnik | signal sender=:1.7 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.bme.signal; member=charger_charging_on | 09:24 | 
| Pupnik | but it's definitely unplugged | 09:25 | 
| derf | ! | 09:25 | 
| Pupnik | tried it again, charger_charging_on continues | 09:25 | 
| derf | Well no wonder it's confused. | 09:25 | 
| derf | That sounds like a bug. | 09:25 | 
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| derf | Maybe I won't flash the new version. | 09:26 | 
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| Tak | hmm, xchat crashed | 09:26 | 
| derf | Anyway, there are two cases... | 09:27 | 
| derf | You need to be able to determine from the response to that signal what the current state is. | 09:28 | 
| derf | That's how it figures out the current state when it starts up. | 09:28 | 
| derf | And then you also need to be able to detect when that state changes. | 09:28 | 
| derf | I.e., when you physically plug in or unplug the device. | 09:29 | 
| Pupnik | oh i see, the daemon polls that | 09:29 | 
| derf | Yes, it's listening for com.nokia.bme.signal | 09:29 | 
| Pupnik | the connect/disconnect message isn't a pollable state, but the charging_on is | 09:29 | 
| Pupnik | ? | 09:29 | 
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| derf | It doesn't send the connect/disconnect message when you call status_info_req. | 09:30 | 
| Pupnik | ok right | 09:30 | 
| derf | It really only needs it when it first starts up. | 09:30 | 
| Pupnik | i had no prior experience with dbus, thanks | 09:30 | 
| derf | Hey, neither did I when I wrote this. | 09:30 | 
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| derf | Actually, I also didn't really know much about gconf, or libconic, or the ping protocol, either, for that matter. | 09:32 | 
| Pupnik | :) | 09:32 | 
| Tak | btw, it seems that the ac connection state is not always accurate on os2007on770 | 09:35 | 
| derf | Yes, we're noticing that. | 09:35 | 
| Tak | e.g. I've had it tell me it was charging while disconnected | 09:35 | 
| derf | Well, I mean, if the system lies to me, there's not much my daemon can do. | 09:36 | 
| * Tak nods | 09:36 | |
| derf | Unless you've got a lower-level mechanism than dbus that's more reliable. | 09:36 | 
| Pupnik | well the battery icon stops animating when ac is unplugged | 09:36 | 
| Pupnik | and restarts when plugged-in | 09:37 | 
| derf | Pupnik: But does it start up in the right state? | 09:37 | 
| derf | And what happens when you tap it? | 09:37 | 
| Tak | I suspect it's wrong at every level | 09:37 | 
| Pupnik | if i tap it while unplugged, nothing happens | 09:37 | 
| derf | It should tell you how much battery is left. | 09:37 | 
| Pupnik | if i tap it while plugged in, i see 'charging' notification | 09:37 | 
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| Pupnik | mplayer playing back youtube crap .flvs perfectly here | 09:46 | 
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| Pupnik | oh tiny bit of tearing once in a while | 09:47 | 
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| Pupnik | hrm it does seem to compress well tho | 09:57 | 
| Tak | hmm, that's interesting | 09:57 | 
| Pupnik | ? | 09:58 | 
| Tak | now if we only had some browser plugin to scrape the flv | 09:58 | 
| Pupnik | there's a python script that grabs youtube | 09:59 | 
| Pupnik | also i think someone made an mplayer plugin for opers | 09:59 | 
| Pupnik | 30 MB for a 15 minute video is quite high compression | 09:59 | 
| Tak | meh, python | 09:59 | 
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| Pupnik | not finding any links to opera mplayer plugin for maemo | 10:04 | 
| Pupnik | normally goes in /usr/lib/browser/plugins | 10:05 | 
| Tak | are opera plugins run-everywhere like ff extensions? | 10:05 | 
| Pupnik | don't know | 10:06 | 
| Pupnik | they appear to be .so files | 10:06 | 
| Tak | ugh | 10:06 | 
| Pupnik | http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/download.php | 10:07 | 
| Pupnik | http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/ | 10:12 | 
| Pupnik | i'm not going to look at this - simpler to download via script | 10:12 | 
| Tak | might be good for a home applet | 10:13 | 
| Tak | enter url, receive bacon | 10:14 | 
| Pupnik | http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/ | 10:14 | 
| Tak | madre de dios, arrakis es en espana?! | 10:15 | 
| Pupnik | spice must flow | 10:16 | 
| Pupnik | the mplayer guys just rule. i did not expect to be able to watch untranscoded vids at all with the 770 when i bought it | 10:21 | 
| Pupnik | i remember having trouble watching divx on a p3-450mhz with a cheap video card | 10:22 | 
| Tak | yes | 10:22 | 
| Pupnik | too tired to do anything useful -- going to nap and then get back to exult and gstreamer | 10:24 | 
| Pupnik | cheers | 10:24 | 
| Tak | ssvb has worked miracles | 10:24 | 
| * Pupnik nods | 10:24 | |
| Pupnik | btw tak: http://pupnik.de/Exult_N770_800x480_Optimized_XviD.avi | 10:25 | 
| Pupnik | that's pretty fast imo for running scale2x at 800x480 | 10:25 | 
| Tak | great | 10:25 | 
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... | 10:53 | 
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:10 | 
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| davyd | anyone around who can help me with Python on Maemo? | 16:26 | 
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... | 16:39 | 
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| bill20r3 | anyone know what linux desktop app can make a video call with an N800? | 17:54 | 
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| AndrewGearhart | hey there folks. is there an application out there to manage DLing podcast files to play on the N800? | 18:13 | 
| bill20r3 | not that I've seen. | 18:13 | 
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| part | AndrewGearhart: gpodder could be one, there's a garage project | 18:28 | 
| AndrewGearhart | part: hm | 18:29 | 
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| adoyle | Has anyone gotten the Dummy IAP setup working on IT2007? I'm running 3.2007.10-7 and it doesn't quite work for me... According to this it should work again: http://www.mulliner.org/blog/blosxom.cgi/n770/n800firstupdate.html | 19:00 | 
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| adoyle | If I look at the DUMMY connection in the Connection Manager, it says "Status: Connecting" whereas under IT2006 it says Connected. So I'm guessing there's something wrong with my setup. | 19:02 | 
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| AndrewGearhart | gpodder looks relatively promising... will give it a shot... :) thanks folks. | 19:11 | 
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| maddler | adoyle: DUMMY IAP is not working on ITOS2007 | 19:25 | 
| maddler | adoyle: I solved creating an ad-hoc network | 19:25 | 
| adoyle | maddler - thanks. I think I saw your solution. | 19:25 | 
| adoyle | I'm hoping for something like the DUMMY IAP :) | 19:25 | 
| maddler | well... better than nothing... as of now... :) | 19:26 | 
| adoyle | I'm trying to port my app to IT2007 - https://mwow.mit.edu/trac/mwow | 19:26 | 
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| maddler | adoyle: interesting... | 19:27 | 
| adoyle | In the overview I explain why I need to be disconnected. | 19:28 | 
| adoyle | Under 2006, Minimo was to much of a memory hog so I used Opera. If I can find a Minimo for 2007, I can try that instead | 19:29 | 
| maddler | tried already using the same "old" package? | 19:30 | 
| adoyle | No, I was thinking of doing that but figured I'd poke around first | 19:30 | 
| maddler | hehe... | 19:30 | 
| maddler | yup... beside I think I said something wrong... I don't think ITOS2006 deb can be installed on 2007... | 19:31 | 
| maddler | btw... I think I remember there was an N800 release... | 19:31 | 
| maddler | my own memory is not as good as my handeld memory! :D | 19:31 | 
| adoyle | I found it a few days ago, but I lost it again :( | 19:31 | 
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| maddler | hehehe... bookmark it next time! :D | 19:34 | 
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| adoyle | yeah. the thrill of the chase wears off! | 19:34 | 
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| maddler | :) | 19:35 | 
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| bilboed | hmm... just after doing an update of magic:sys on my n800 it keeps rebooting when I switch it on. Is this a known issue ? | 19:40 | 
| robtaylor | bilboed: try charging your battery a bit | 19:44 | 
| bilboed | it was full | 19:45 | 
| robtaylor | hmm | 19:45 | 
| bilboed | no big deal | 19:45 | 
| bilboed | I need to flash to latest firmware anyway | 19:45 | 
| bilboed | Okko, flashed | 19:48 | 
| bilboed | at least now it's displaying the charging logo when it's on the mains | 19:49 | 
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| Okko | bilboed: ? | 20:03 | 
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| unique311 | Pupnik | 20:33 | 
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| unique311 | http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~weimer/atris/Docs/atris.html | 20:48 | 
| unique311 | got this on n800 | 20:48 | 
| unique311 | but no controlss | 20:48 | 
| unique311 | you good with games might be a good project for you to get a hold of | 20:49 | 
| unique311 | compiled with no errors... | 20:49 | 
| unique311 | just maybe have to modify the control file | 20:49 | 
| Pupnik | looks like he added that fire demo hack that's been floating around the net since the 90s | 20:50 | 
| unique311 | it works | 20:50 | 
| unique311 | just no type of controls.. | 20:50 | 
| unique311 | starts at full screen | 20:50 | 
| unique311 | settings for window view | 20:50 | 
| Pupnik | it uses SDL? | 20:51 | 
| unique311 | u want the source.... | 20:51 | 
| unique311 | yes | 20:51 | 
| unique311 | i got the gp2x src | 20:51 | 
| unique311 | http://www.divshare.com/download/539458-d25 | 20:52 | 
| Pupnik | sdl uses SDLK_LEFT SDLK_RIGHT etc for keypad controls | 20:53 | 
| Pupnik | dpad | 20:53 | 
| unique311 | CFLAGS = -g -O2 -Wall -Wimplicit -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -DATRIS_LIBDIR=\"$(prefix)/games/atris\" | 20:53 | 
| Pupnik | look for something like | 20:54 | 
| Pupnik | if(event.type==SDL_KEYDOWN) | 20:54 | 
| Pupnik | switch(event.key.keysym.sym) | 20:54 | 
| Pupnik | case SDLK_LEFT: | 20:54 | 
| Pupnik | it would be nice if two nokias could do peer networking easily via bluetooth | 20:56 | 
| Pupnik | for pvp games like this | 20:56 | 
| Pupnik | thanks but i'm pretty busy | 20:57 | 
| unique311 | yeah | 20:57 | 
| unique311 | i'm gonna see what i can do with it.. | 20:57 | 
| bill20r3 | I wonder if xscreensaver would run ok. | 20:59 | 
| bill20r3 | that'd be fun. | 20:59 | 
| Pupnik | someone compiled it already | 21:00 | 
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| bill20r3 | !!! | 21:01 | 
| bill20r3 | do you recall where you saw it? | 21:01 | 
| Pupnik | no | 21:01 | 
| Pupnik | search kumppa and maemo | 21:02 | 
| bill20r3 | thanks | 21:02 | 
| Pupnik | hmm no | 21:02 | 
| Pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4523&highlight=kumppa | 21:02 | 
| Tak|work | YES @ easy bluetooth networking | 21:02 | 
| Pupnik | coolness | 21:03 | 
| unique311 | whats weird | 21:03 | 
| unique311 | the tablet works when i doing the settings.... | 21:03 | 
| unique311 | i can use the pen without problems.. | 21:03 | 
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| Pupnik | would have been nice if the Neo1973 used maemo | 21:25 | 
| Pupnik | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware | 21:25 | 
| Pupnik | it's so similiar in some ways - matchbox, gtk2, kdrive | 21:25 | 
| unique311 | Pupnik you the exult dev...where's the trunk located? | 21:25 | 
| Pupnik | sourceforge | 21:26 | 
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| unique311 | anybody willing to entertain me for a few... | 21:40 | 
| unique311 | or get entertained... | 21:40 | 
| unique311 | found the controls for atris.....need someone to help me do the modifying | 21:41 | 
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| kpel | hi all | 21:52 | 
| Pupnik | hi kpel | 21:58 | 
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| Pupnik | unique311: sdl tutorials | 21:59 | 
| unique311 | i know i know.... | 21:59 | 
| unique311 | i suck | 21:59 | 
| kpel | on Saturday, someone in this room was saying that he couldn't establish a voice and a data call at the same time with a 3g phone. is that person here? | 22:00 | 
| unique311 | not good at coding scripting, whatever its called..... | 22:00 | 
| Pupnik | well that's what i'm doing tonight - more basic sdl stuff | 22:00 | 
| Pupnik | goin for a walk first tho - cheers unique311 - i'll make a little page up of sdl demos and performance tests | 22:01 | 
| Pupnik | kpel, maybe you can find it with google - this page is logged | 22:01 | 
| * Pupnik waves | 22:01 | |
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| kpel | thanks Pupnik_afk | 22:02 | 
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| kpel | osfameron: i checked that thing you mentioned about data connections getting paused during voice calls. it's a network issue. they won't let you have both but give priority to the voice call instead since it may be an emergency call. | 22:17 | 
| osfameron | kpel: oh! | 22:18 | 
| kpel | makes you wonder why they charge you with 3g tarrifs if you can't have 3g functionality... | 22:18 | 
| osfameron | why can't you do both though? | 22:18 | 
| osfameron | i understand priorities but... | 22:19 | 
| kpel | osfameron: ebcause the people who run the network say so. probably they want to save spectrum, or it is too difficult/costly for them to handle both voice and data for every customer. i can onl guess. | 22:19 | 
| kpel | only* | 22:19 | 
| osfameron | ah | 22:20 | 
| osfameron | thanks for checking anyway ;-) | 22:20 | 
| kpel | np | 22:20 | 
| kpel | i wish they had better configured networks | 22:21 | 
| osfameron | yeah | 22:25 | 
| osfameron | still, some things are improving | 22:25 | 
| osfameron | data packages are 'afforable' these day | 22:25 | 
| osfameron | just | 22:25 | 
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| kpel | indeed. especialy now with HSPA | 22:25 | 
| osfameron | not 'cheap' mind... | 22:25 | 
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| tuxperger | q: why doesn't pine do 'ääkköset'? | 23:07 | 
| tuxperger | it does on my desktop | 23:07 | 
| gla55 | on your desktop it's configured right then | 23:07 | 
| tuxperger | yeah... so to put it differently, what is configured wrong on the 770? pico? or xterm? | 23:08 | 
| tuxperger | same with vi. There we have +multibyte | 23:09 | 
| tuxperger | s/vi/vim/ | 23:10 | 
| gla55 | both? | 23:11 | 
| gla55 | i don't know for sure but i would assume you could use the desktop howtos to configure both of them accordingly for umlauts of your choice | 23:11 | 
| tuxperger | There isn't much to configure in the 770's xterm... according to gconf it's UTF-8. Same with my desktop gnome-terminal. | 23:13 | 
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| tuxperger | actually I was imprecise... pine does äöå but counts the bytes wrong... the cursor is in a different place from where it thinks it is. | 23:14 | 
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| tuxperger | iow, it's not aware that the chars are multibyte. | 23:15 | 
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