IRC log of #maemo-devel for Friday, 2010-11-19

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ShadowJKSo I guess the question is; what do you want to do?00:02
ShadowJKbut 1999?00:03
ShadowJKI'd get something newer than 11 years00:04
ShadowJKwhoah, there are books on MeeGo programming already00:06
DocScrutinizerhell, so maybe also on maemo meanwhile?00:06
gustavo-ferreiraShadowJK: you are right, but since i'm newbie i don't know till where it would be different for the books of nowadays, but again it's a newbie on the matter that is talking, so if you could suggest one book that fits my needs, i would really appreciate it.00:08
gustavo-ferreiraResponding to your question, after one year and half making some "basic" programming on C, i want to go deapper on this matter, Programming C on Linux, every aspect, process's, IPC's and all that stuff i'm not familiary with. If you could suggest something, it would be nice.00:12
DocScrutinizergustavo-ferreira: looking at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=stripbooks&field-keywords=linux+programming&x=0&y=0  it seems most of those titles have a "look inside" option, so you could check if the style meets your level and skills00:12
ShadowJKwell, if you can do ANSI C, then you put posix on top, and maybe gtk or qt for a GUI. So, I'd perhaps make a goal for a small project, something simple like perhaps a calculator of some sort. Like, put in a Watt figure and price per kWh, get price for running the thing a day, a week, a year00:12
ShadowJKand I'd probably start with a gtk or qt tutorial to do it00:13
DocScrutinizernot much about processes, IPC, and other fun stuff in there though :-D00:14
gustavo-ferreiraI already know GTK+ lib, i made some "mini projects" with that library, i even used it to make a mini-program for my nokia n900 witch runs maemo. It is cool, but what i really really want is understand linux from the point of view of a programmer, you know what i mean right?00:15
ShadowJKproblem with IPC is that there are about 19 commonly used methods :D00:15
DocScrutinizeryep :-D00:15
gustavo-ferreiraDocScrutinizer: thank you for your suggestion, i will check that!!00:15
DocScrutinizerhttp://www.amazon.com/Linux-Programming-Interface-System-Handbook/dp/1593272200/ref=sr_1_2/181-0289776-7378209?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290118219&sr=1-2 looks like it might be what you wnat to have a look at00:16
gustavo-ferreiraok, well, i mention IPC as an example, in fact i don't even know what IPC are exactly xD sorry, but i'm really newbie xD00:16
ShadowJKinter process communication00:17
ShadowJKprograms talking with eachother00:17
gustavo-ferreiraDocScrutinizer: really thanks on this!!! From the content table i can see it talks about almost everything i was expecting! Thank you00:18
DocScrutinizeryw00:19
gustavo-ferreiraShadowJK: Yes i know that, isn't D-Bus a kind of IPC? what i meant was that i don't know how it works, and all that stuff00:19
DocScrutinizersure, dbus I'd consider a flavour of IPC00:20
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ShadowJKdbus might use unix sockets, that seems to be covered in the book DocScrutinizer linked00:21
ShadowJKgtk uses xlib which uses shm, unix sockets or tcp sockets to talk to the X server, shm and tcp sockets seem to be covered in that book too00:22
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DocScrutinizerchapter 42(sic!)00:23
DocScrutinizererr  no, 4300:23
DocScrutinizerinterprocess communication overview00:24
ShadowJKSeems like all the stuff that's underneath gtk,glib,qt00:24
ShadowJKexcept the graphical stuff00:24
gustavo-ferreirathank you both for your help, really appreciate it.00:24
gustavo-ferreirai'm reading description right now00:25
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DocScrutinizerI'm tmpted to order this one for xmess, looks really nice :-)00:29
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gustavo-ferreira:P yes it seems that has everything (or almost everything)  just one question, when we program in C, if we want to use GTK+ we really have to code everything for the GUI thing? I know there is an application called Glade that it is a kind of "Visual Basic" from microsoft, but as far as i know it doesn't support hildon gadgets am i wrong?00:42
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ShadowJKyeah glade doesn't support hildon01:23
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gustavo-ferreiraso, if i want to make an application in C for maemo using GTK+ i really must code everything up?01:26
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nmjnbHi everyone. Is there a graphical-app that can be used to easily make an app to run some scripts without creating the graphical environment myself from scratch for an app?12:22
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airwhat scripts?12:31
nmjnbI want to make an app to control a tellstick device connected to a linux-server12:33
nmjnbso I want to be able to turn lights on/off or if applicable use a dimmer by dragging my finger on the screen12:34
nmjnbthe app exists for android, but I don't know if there's any way to port it to maemo. It's called remotestick.12:34
airandroid apps are written in java12:34
airwouldnt be too hard to make a simple gtk app with some buttons12:35
nmjnbwell, I don't know how to do it, the graphical part, I could make some simple scripts to control the tellstick through ssh.12:37
airn900 or n8x0?12:39
nmjnbn90012:39
nmjnbunfortunately I have to go, but thanks for the ideas12:51
airi dont see anything yet that might help you12:52
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