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| lardman | as QtCreator seems to be moaning about certain components, such as QVersitReader, saying the file doesn't exist (which is not surprising), what should one do? | 00:28 |
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| lardman | install the relevant headers under x86 or point QtCreator at the sb header location? | 00:28 |
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| Venemo | lardman: huh, how did you get that? | 00:28 |
| lardman | I've not yet, just hoping that I can use it to import a vCard | 00:29 |
| lardman | I get the same with e.g. QContact* | 00:29 |
| w00t_ | lardman: you're using the Qt SDK? | 00:29 |
| w00t_ | (instead of sb?) | 00:29 |
| lardman | no, sb | 00:29 |
| w00t_ | okay | 00:29 |
| w00t_ | I haven't done things that way so I suppose it's up to you | 00:30 |
| w00t_ | technically I'd probably go for the "point at sb" option | 00:30 |
| w00t_ | that way you don't run the risk of one copy getting out of sync | 00:30 |
| lardman | Does the Qt SDK run under Windows? I will be away for a while with only a Windows laptop | 00:30 |
| lardman | does versit come installed? I can't find it via apt-cache search | 00:32 |
| w00t_ | versit is part of Qt Mobility.. I imagine installing that gets you the lot | 00:33 |
| w00t_ | *I'm not positive though) | 00:33 |
| lardman | ok cool | 00:33 |
| w00t_ | SDK runs on windows, yes | 00:33 |
| dotblank | I can't seem to compile qt3 code on windows 7 | 00:33 |
| lardman | libqtm-versit to be exact | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | qt3? :-) | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | that's a blast from the past | 00:34 |
| dotblank | at least it makes me want to bash my keyboard against the wall | 00:34 |
| dotblank | oops ment qt4 | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | the SDK *should* have made that a bit easier | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | let me find links | 00:34 |
| dotblank | well for windows targets | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/e920da1a-5b18-42df-82c3-907413e525fb/Nokia_Qt_SDK.html <- that one | 00:35 |
| dotblank | compiling for the n900 in windows works i think | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | oh, I see | 00:35 |
| dotblank | but for desktop target its a no go | 00:35 |
| lardman | cool | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | compiling *for* windows will largely depend on what you use, too | 00:35 |
| dotblank | its a royal pain trying to do dev on windows | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | for instance, I note that Groove has some Maemo5 specific code that isn't ifdef'd for Maemo only (I can send you a patch for that if you like) | 00:35 |
| lardman | are the qt-mobility libs installed by default on the N900? They seem rather large | 00:35 |
| dotblank | w00t_, it is now | 00:36 |
| w00t_ | lardman: not yet I believe, next update | 00:36 |
| w00t_ | but other stuff uses them | 00:36 |
| lardman | ok | 00:36 |
| w00t_ | (at least, that is just my guessing.. given they weren't really mature when 1.2 came around) | 00:36 |
| lardman | so what does the contacts app use? QContact? | 00:37 |
| dotblank | w00t_, it was too difficult doing remote debugging on the n900 so Io had to get the desktop client to work | 00:37 |
| w00t_ | lardman: the native Maemo contacts stuff? | 00:37 |
| lardman | yep | 00:38 |
| w00t_ | in fremantle (no idea about the future obviously) it doesn't use any of Qt | 00:38 |
| w00t_ | it's gtk/libabook stuff | 00:38 |
| lardman | oh right, wrapped and presented with a Qt ui then? | 00:38 |
| w00t_ | hm? | 00:39 |
| * w00t_ looks confused | 00:39 | |
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| lardman | I thought we'd moved to Qt now? | 00:39 |
| dotblank | moving | 00:39 |
| w00t_ | yeah | 00:39 |
| lardman | oh no, getting ahead of myself | 00:39 |
| w00t_ | maemo5 is never going to end up using it for the base platform, it's already written and finished :-D | 00:39 |
| dotblank | but for meego | 00:40 |
| lardman | yep | 00:40 |
| dotblank | qt will be primary | 00:40 |
| w00t_ | hopefully! I haven't actually looked at the reference apps source yet | 00:40 |
| w00t_ | been too busy :) | 00:40 |
| lardman | tell me about it! | 00:40 |
| lcuk_afk | i have ! | 00:43 |
| lcuk_afk | but im not here right now :P | 00:43 |
| lardman | oi! | 00:43 |
| lcuk_afk | i tried building it but failed to update repos - i bet it would be simple to build em for fremantle - they are qt afterall | 00:44 |
| lcuk_afk | whos gonna offer the first meego .deb patch ;) :p | 00:44 |
| Venemo | re | 00:44 |
| lardman | I'll fall back to the abook code and see if I can get that to compile using the C++ compiler | 00:44 |
| Venemo | lcuk: what do you mean by meego d | 00:44 |
| Venemo | lcuk: what do you mean by meego .deb patch? | 00:44 |
| lcuk_afk | Venemo, a patch to add a debian folder and package for those meego apps to run on fremantle | 00:45 |
| lcuk_afk | people can get onboard and help right away without waiting or changing os if they are developable and testable without ruining primary device usage | 00:46 |
| lcuk_afk | it will help the final build of meego | 00:46 |
| lcuk_afk | because the main apps will get help to be built | 00:46 |
| lcuk_afk | meego are recommending people not to install it | 00:46 |
| lcuk_afk | so, lets add a deb package and help tidy up the apps from within fremantle | 00:46 |
| lcuk_afk | we all beneift? | 00:46 |
| w00t_ | this reminds me | 00:47 |
| w00t_ | I really need to go get hildon-desktop working under meego | 00:47 |
| * w00t_ grabs an SDK image | 00:47 | |
| lcuk_afk | yes | 00:47 |
| Venemo | lcuk: so basically you mean an app manager that handles rpm format for Maemo? | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | no venemo | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | for the primary meego applications listed yesterday that were opened | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | they are open source on gitorious | 00:48 |
| w00t_ | he means packaging meego applications to be installed in fremantle | 00:48 |
| w00t_ | (at a guess) | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | yes | 00:48 |
| lardman | hmm, not sure I like this error message: | 00:48 |
| lardman | In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:47, | 00:48 |
| lardman | from /usr/include/libosso-abook-1.0/libosso-abook/osso-abook-contact.h:13, | 00:48 |
| lardman | from ../qrsink.cpp:20: | 00:48 |
| lardman | /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbindings.h:79: error: expected unqualified-id before 'protected' | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | they are qt? | 00:48 |
| lardman | /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbindings.h:79: error: expected ';' before 'protected' | 00:48 |
| lcuk_afk | isnt this automatic? | 00:48 |
| w00t_ | lardman: looks like a header isn't C++ compatible | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | how do you make a package for a qt app now? | 00:49 |
| Venemo | ah | 00:49 |
| lardman | w00t_: yep :( | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | do you have to write it yourself? | 00:49 |
| Venemo | so you mean repackaging meego apps for maemo | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | yes Venemo, why not | 00:49 |
| w00t_ | lcuk_afk: Qt SDK can do some of the work for you but that isn't really tested and finished | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | if the individual apps look good to you | 00:49 |
| w00t_ | (so long story short: yeah, you'd probably have to do your own debian/) | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | then, why shouldnt you be able to put em on your machine? | 00:49 |
| lcuk_afk | ok w00t_ | 00:50 |
| Venemo | lardman: that means you included a C header into a Qt app? | 00:50 |
| lcuk_afk | so we have a look and take each principle meego app case by case | 00:50 |
| Venemo | lcuk: good idea :) | 00:50 |
| lcuk_afk | lets first see if they can be run on the machines? | 00:50 |
| lardman | Venemo: indeed, for lack of a Qt method for accessing the contacts db | 00:50 |
| lcuk_afk | i tried last night | 00:50 |
| lcuk_afk | but i dont have some of the dependencies | 00:50 |
| lcuk_afk | and my head was gone | 00:50 |
| Venemo | lardman: okay. I also did that and got similar errors | 00:51 |
| Venemo | lardman: a few tips: | 00:51 |
| Venemo | lardman: only include such headers from source files, and not from your own header | 00:51 |
| lardman | done | 00:51 |
| Venemo | lardman: and before including anything else in the source file in question, put in there this: #define QT_NO_KEYWORDS | 00:51 |
| lardman | ok | 00:52 |
| Venemo | w00t_: correct me if the above are wrong | 00:52 |
| w00t_ | that looks right | 00:52 |
| Venemo | lardman: basically the problem is that those headers use keywords that are reserved by either C++ or Qt. | 00:52 |
| w00t_ | if all else fails, you could try include the contacts code in a .c, compile it with gcc, and link it to your app with g++ - you'll just not be able to use objects or anything else in there | 00:52 |
| lardman | Venemo: how do I renable Qt keywords after importing the files? | 00:52 |
| w00t_ | (and you will probably cry getting the build system to do that) | 00:52 |
| Venemo | lardman: you don't. | 00:52 |
| lardman | oh | 00:52 |
| Venemo | lardman: anyway, you don't use Qt's keywords in cpp files, so... | 00:53 |
| Venemo | lardman: in my case, the problem was some header file using the "signals" word for something... | 00:53 |
| lardman | mine's still not happy | 00:54 |
| Venemo | ah. | 00:54 |
| Venemo | what's the issue? | 00:54 |
| lardman | I suppose I could pull the header apart and write one that's compatible.... | 00:54 |
| lardman | as above | 00:54 |
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| lardman | probably easier to write the QString to a file, then open the file with QDesktopServices::openUrl(uri); | 00:57 |
| lardman | (it contains a vCard) | 00:57 |
| lardman | Does QDesktopServices::openUrl() use MIME types out of interest? | 01:02 |
| Venemo | lardman: I dunno | 01:04 |
| Venemo | nah, I have to go now | 01:05 |
| Venemo | good night folks :) | 01:05 |
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| lardman | thanks for your hel[p | 01:05 |
| lardman | oops | 01:05 |
| lcuk_afk | lol lardman we do that whenever you leave | 01:07 |
| lardman | :p ;) | 01:09 |
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| lardman | hmm, my masterplan seems to have failed, no vCards being added | 01:20 |
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| lardman | anyone else happen to know if there's a generic mime handler in Qt? | 01:26 |
| lardman | I'd like to be able to call blah.open(uri) and have the relevant app open depending on the uri/extension | 01:27 |
| w00t_ | I don't think so | 01:42 |
| lardman | oh, shame | 02:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | I know cuteexplorer opens files in stuff. | 02:12 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't know if it hardcodes it | 02:12 |
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| lardman | thanks, will have a look at the code for that tomorrow | 02:16 |
| lardman | night chaps | 02:27 |
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| barisione | does anybody have an idea how to prestart my program when the n900 starts? | 15:05 |
| barisione | it should be started ASAP as the session bus is ready | 15:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | wander around /etc | 15:25 |
| SpeedEvil | /etc/rc2.d/S20dbus for example | 15:28 |
| SpeedEvil | adding S21yourservice I think will start just after dbus | 15:29 |
| SpeedEvil | do backup first | 15:29 |
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| w00t_ | /etc/event.d/ or whatever it is is interesting too | 16:03 |
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| albanc | barisione, fyi the session D-Bus daemon is started in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/01dbus | 16:31 |
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| spenap | hi, how long uses to take to get permission to upload to extras-devel? I asked for it on Wednesday night, but didn't get it yet | 17:36 |
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| lullenn | I think I got it in 3-4 days | 17:57 |
| spenap | lullenn: thx :), will wait | 18:01 |
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