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| DocScrutinizer51 | wtf been THAT? | 00:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nickserv: currently not available | 00:37 |
| w00t | DocScrutinizer51: netsplit, nickserv is on the other half of the network, or services are not running for some reason | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | k | 00:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | just wondering if thatMs been freenode as well just now, or my 3G freaking out | 00:57 |
| SpeedEvil | freenode | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | shit | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ping rtt 8s | 00:58 |
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| w00t | DocScrutinizer51: I think freenode is going splat, yes. | 00:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | scary | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | most funny part are msgs from other branch of the split storing up, and then spamming your screen with 3 minutes of posts in 3 sec | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | makes you feel like you're in one of those silly timemachine scifi movies | 01:22 |
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| game_over | hi, i want to compile something that needs jam. where do i get that ? | 03:19 |
| njsf_ | if it is the perforce jam: http://www.perforce.com/jam/jam.html | 03:23 |
| njsf_ | if it is the boost one, in the boost site | 03:23 |
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| game_over | thx njsf_ I did compile the src , gave me no errors, but jam does not work. Its not recognized :( | 03:34 |
| njsf_ | what do you mean with not recognized? | 03:35 |
| game_over | bash: jam: command not found | 03:36 |
| njsf_ | I think the binary is somewhere inside the source tree. | 03:37 |
| njsf_ | You must them copy it to somewhere else, or use it with absolute path | 03:37 |
| game_over | k gonna check that | 03:38 |
| game_over | that did the trick thx a lot :P | 03:41 |
| njsf_ | np | 03:43 |
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| DataBeaver | Question about the gtkmm-2.4-1c2a package in extras-devel. I tried to cross-compile a program against it on my Debian box, but at the linking phase I got a big bunch of errors about undefined symbols. They're all protected event handler functions that would only be referenced from a derived class's vtable. Seems to me like the library's been stripped a bit too much. Is there a bug or am I doing something wrong? | 09:02 |
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| blubbi | hi, anyone online who has some experience with evolution and python? I am try to generate a a list of phone numbers for each contact in my addressbook. But I am stuck at this point (the doku is very unpleasant) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/191455/ | 10:17 |
| blubbi | for econtact in contacts: numbers = econtact.get_property('phone') ; print numbers | 10:17 |
| blubbi | I get a pointer... and I dont know how to address the data of the pointer | 10:18 |
| Khertan | Hello All ! | 10:46 |
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| thunderfest | hello all | 10:47 |
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| crk | Hi all | 10:49 |
| thunderfest | hello crk | 10:49 |
| crk | Hi I have a couple of questions on N900 | 10:49 |
| crk | cananyone help ? | 10:49 |
| thunderfest | So can anyone point me to the fastest route for c++ sdl development for Diablo? | 10:51 |
| lcuk | install scratchbox | 10:51 |
| lcuk | find sdl c++ exapmples on line | 10:51 |
| lcuk | ??? | 10:51 |
| lcuk | profit | 10:52 |
| thunderfest | profit? | 10:52 |
| thunderfest | ha | 10:52 |
| thunderfest | how is it going lcuk | 10:52 |
| thunderfest | love liqbase great work...I had once talked to you a bit about in it's channel | 10:55 |
| lcuk | indeed thunderfest :) tis going well | 10:55 |
| lcuk | because sdl is a flat library, using c examples should give the same effect | 10:56 |
| thunderfest | I've got a nice gesture recognition program going on my desktop and have finally decided to start the process of porting it over | 10:56 |
| lcuk | cool, since you are already requesting c++ | 10:56 |
| lcuk | it might be an idea to consider qt | 10:56 |
| lcuk | or go even lower towards x11 | 10:57 |
| thunderfest | well all my soruce right now is sdl | 10:57 |
| lcuk | then play with sdl on the device | 10:57 |
| lcuk | libraries there, nothing should prevent it? | 10:57 |
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| thunderfest | great thats what I wanted to hear | 10:57 |
| barfoos | Tuxprobe: oh my.. i forgot to call gobject.threads_init(). i hope that was the cause of the problem. at least debug output is coming more fluidly now | 11:03 |
| Tuxprobe | huh? | 11:04 |
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| Tuxprobe | oh, hi spliff :) | 11:04 |
| spliffy_work | you helped me yesterday :-) | 11:05 |
| spliffy_work | howdy! | 11:05 |
| * Tuxprobe scrolls up anodge | 11:05 | |
| Tuxprobe | you had the sound lock problem right? | 11:06 |
| Tuxprobe | darn.. there is only _one button_press event in a desktop widget?? | 11:09 |
| Tuxprobe | lets imagine an image gallery, on home-desktop, where clicking right side would step fwd and left, back etc | 11:10 |
| thunderfest | I have seen some complaints about scratch box on the forums...what is the general sentiment? is it preferred to dev on the device itself? | 11:11 |
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| thunderfest | ok so i'm running the maemo sdk installer script....do I want to "download and install closed nokia binaries" | 11:25 |
| thunderfest | well I'm going with yes | 11:26 |
| thunderfest | man I wish I could afford a n900 | 11:30 |
| thunderfest | has there been much sdl usage in this community? | 11:35 |
| thunderfest | how much ram usage is generally considered acceptable for a n8X0 app? | 11:45 |
| lcuk | thunderfest, dunno | 11:45 |
| lcuk | test yours on there, get it running as smooth as possible | 11:45 |
| lcuk | and it will fly on 900 | 11:45 |
| thunderfest | sorry if I'm chatting too much its just this sdk install is taking a minute | 11:46 |
| lcuk | heh it always does | 11:46 |
| thunderfest | seems like most of you guys and most of the nokia provided docs are geared towards c development has there been much c++ deving as well? | 11:49 |
| lcuk | just a bit | 11:49 |
| lcuk | whole of qt is c++ ;) | 11:49 |
| thunderfest | no libsdl-tff or libsdl-pango poo | 12:03 |
| thunderfest | I'll have to try and build them or come up with a new text rendering solution | 12:03 |
| thunderfest | I suppose I should say "font" rendering | 12:04 |
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| lcuk | thunderfest, mmm im sure the first font stuff i used was sdlttf | 12:07 |
| lcuk | i know that was on 810 | 12:07 |
| lcuk | but that shouldnt be missing, a mo | 12:07 |
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| lcuk | thunderfest, ive got libsdlttf2.0-dev and libsdlpango-dev i dont see why you havent got them | 12:08 |
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| thunderfest | idk dpkg-query -l 'libsdl*' only shows libsdl-image1.2 and dev ''-mixer1.2 and dev and libsdl and dev | 12:24 |
| thunderfest | apt-cache search libsdl* shows the same | 12:24 |
| Tuxprobe | any widget developers on? im looking for the dbus event to startup a widget (i.e. manually add it to desktop) | 12:26 |
| thunderfest | yeah E: Couldn't find package libsdlttf2.0-dev | 12:26 |
| thunderfest | I wonder why you have them and I don't...did you manually install the sdk? | 12:27 |
| thunderfest | man is scratchbox supposed to be using 100% of one of my cpu cores? | 12:34 |
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| thunderfest | I'm getting errors all over the place do I need to run Xephyr as root? | 12:52 |
| thunderfest | guess not same errors | 12:53 |
| thunderfest | I'm getting alot of "(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2)" from Xephyr | 12:55 |
| lcuk | thunderfest, develop as you used to for your n810? | 12:55 |
| thunderfest | lcuk , I don't understand your question. | 12:56 |
| * lcuk never bothers with zephyr | 12:58 | |
| lcuk | just copy binary to machine and run | 12:58 |
| thunderfest | is there a way to see my scrachbox files from my host os | 12:59 |
| thunderfest | nevermind I found them | 13:00 |
| thunderfest | oh no I just realized it may be weeks before I find that nokia usb cable in all this mess | 13:03 |
| thunderfest | I recently moved | 13:03 |
| blubbi | hi, anyone online who has some experience with evolution and python? I am try to generate a a list of phone numbers for each contact in my addressbook. But I am stuck at this point (the doku is very unpleasant) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/191455/ . for econtact in contacts: numbers = econtact.get_property('phone') ; print numbers . I get a pointer... and I dont know how to address the data of the pointer. | 13:09 |
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| thunderfest | lcuk, I keep getting a permission denied when I try and run the binary on the device | 13:21 |
| thunderfest | I'm running as root and did a chmod a+x | 13:21 |
| thunderfest | but no luck | 13:22 |
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| thunderfest | please ignore all that I've been trying to run the wrong file | 13:25 |
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| thunderfest | well right file this time but same problem | 13:32 |
| thunderfest | are we not allowed to execute files stored on a removable mini SD card? | 13:33 |
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| achipa | thunderfest: correct, mounted media has noexec flag | 13:36 |
| thunderfest | achipa thanks | 13:37 |
| thunderfest | does that include mmc1 and mmc2? | 13:42 |
| achipa | AFAIK yes | 13:42 |
| thunderfest | alright finally I got it to run | 13:47 |
| thunderfest | seems like SDL_Quit(); is giving me a seg fault | 13:48 |
| thunderfest | that seems strange | 13:48 |
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| thunderfest | hey does anyone the exact resolution of a non full screen window? | 14:05 |
| DataBeaver | Does anyone have experience cross-compiling C++ apps on Debian unstable for N900? | 14:06 |
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| thunderfest | well aside from the missing sdltff libs and segfaulting on SDL_Quit() this is going wonderfully!! | 14:10 |
| thunderfest | thanks for your help lcuk and achipa | 14:11 |
| thunderfest | give me a week or two for the rest of the porting and I'll be able to share a nice start on some gesture recognition | 14:12 |
| achipa | np | 14:12 |
| lcuk | thunderfest :) excellent! look forward to seeing i | 14:13 |
| lcuk | t | 14:13 |
| ynezz | does anybody here knows what's the status of maemo on beagleboard? | 14:21 |
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| thunderfest | well looks like it will take a fair bit more work than I expected since my current source uses quite a few 32bit specific drawing functions | 14:33 |
| Tuxprobe | undefined reference to `hd_plugin_module_load' :/ | 14:49 |
| Tuxprobe | libhildondesktopmm pkg-config is fubar | 14:49 |
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| thunderfest | Where can I find the keyboard equivalents of the hardware buttons...fullscreen, ect. | 15:48 |
| thunderfest | oh for the n810 | 15:48 |
| thunderfest | come on guys don't force me to take the 5 minutes to write a function to print them out..I'm feeling lazy | 15:50 |
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| thunderfest | oh I found it in the docs | 15:53 |
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| crabsody | hello | 20:13 |
| crabsody | I am a newbie in maemo devel | 20:13 |
| crabsody | I try my first hello world example | 20:14 |
| crabsody | I compiled in scratchbox | 20:14 |
| crabsody | and using xephyr I can see the hello world widget | 20:14 |
| crabsody | but when I copy it to N900 | 20:15 |
| crabsody | it does not run | 20:15 |
| crabsody | I try to execute to the N900 terminal but I get "./hello: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected" | 20:16 |
| crabsody | it seems that my executable is not for N900 | 20:17 |
| crabsody | how can this be done? | 20:17 |
| scoopr | does your scratchbox prompt say ARMEL ? | 20:19 |
| scoopr | if not, change it to that with sb-menu | 20:20 |
| crabsody | it says [sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: | 20:20 |
| crabsody | ok I see I must change it. | 20:21 |
| crabsody | thank you very very very much | 20:21 |
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| crabsody | I changed to ARMEL but when I try to install qt packages I got dependencies errors. | 20:39 |
| crabsody | for example | 20:39 |
| crabsody | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt4-dev: Depends: libqt4-webkit but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages | 20:39 |
| crabsody | etc etc | 20:39 |
| crabsody | can I install somehow all the packages automatically | 20:40 |
| crabsody | ? | 20:40 |
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| Tuxprobe | is there's no libglademm for the maemo platform? | 20:49 |
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| lostinmirkwood | Quick question for you folks, since you were so helpful yesterday. When is it appropriate to post an [Announce] at TMO for a garage project? If my application is still in Extras-Devel, but usable and stable, but not yet feature-rich so that I can have some comments if I'm moving forward in a useful way. | 22:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Is it useful? | 22:03 |
| SpeedEvil | If it is useful, I (as a user) don't much care that it doesn't have an animated paperclip to ask me shit. | 22:03 |
| lostinmirkwood | I would say currently not yet since I disabled saving for the time being. | 22:03 |
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| lostinmirkwood | SpeedEvil:I'm not planning on Announcing soon until saving and few other things are fixed, But I was just seeing is there is a sort of standard, I guess your "Is it useful yet?", seems to answer my question. | 22:06 |
| SpeedEvil | That was just a random thought. | 22:07 |
| SpeedEvil | I can't see of a more rational one though. | 22:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Announcing now, if it's a potentially useful app, and you are planning on fixing stuff, and the broken bits are clearly known isn't a bad idea though | 22:08 |
| SpeedEvil | to get early feedback from users. What is it? | 22:08 |
| lostinmirkwood | It's an image manipulator, sort of like "Adobe Lightroom"-lite :) It does color correction, B&W conversion, etc. | 22:09 |
| SpeedEvil | from camera? | 22:09 |
| SpeedEvil | replacement camera app would be lovely. | 22:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Though probably not what you're working on. | 22:10 |
| lostinmirkwood | well, not yet it loads as a separate PyQt application, in order to alter images taken from the camera, since the current Edit functionality is slim at best. | 22:10 |
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| lostinmirkwood | SpeedEvil: if you want to take a look at screenshots, http://ansela.garage.maemo.org/ | 22:12 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 22:13 |
| SpeedEvil | Interesting | 22:13 |
| lostinmirkwood | Thanks ;) Figured I'd give back to the community a bit. | 22:14 |
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| CalimeroTeknik | hello ! | 22:51 |
| CalimeroTeknik | i've got a tiny question | 22:51 |
| CalimeroTeknik | if I mess up my files in the root of the nokia n900, will I be able to reset it ? | 22:52 |
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| CalimeroTeknik | I prefer asking before making any mistake | 22:52 |
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| spliffy | CalimeroTeknik: AFAIK you can always reflash if your hardware is ok | 22:53 |
| CalimeroTeknik | can I access the root via USB ? | 22:53 |
| CalimeroTeknik | with the phone not booting I mean | 22:53 |
| spliffy | no | 22:54 |
| CalimeroTeknik | ok, thanks very much :) | 22:54 |
| spliffy | you have to boot and unlock it to access the files | 22:54 |
| CalimeroTeknik | I just wanted to be sure I could flash it if I messed it up | 22:54 |
| CalimeroTeknik | can I boot on an SD card ? | 22:55 |
| spliffy | i don't know. iirc some alternative os does it | 22:56 |
| spliffy | yeah i remember you can boot mer from sd | 22:57 |
| CalimeroTeknik | oh yeah :) | 22:57 |
| CalimeroTeknik | the bootloader allows to choose ? | 22:57 |
| spliffy | but you have to have access to the filesystem to make it possible | 22:57 |
| CalimeroTeknik | I imagine it's kexec then ? | 22:57 |
| spliffy | http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2010/01/dual-booting-mer-on-nokia-n900.html | 22:58 |
| spliffy | no idea, i didn't yet experiment with it | 22:58 |
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