| Docd | :@ | 00:00 |
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| Docd | wish i had an n900 | 00:00 |
| backseatgreg | does it work docd ? | 00:00 |
| backseatgreg | the repo ? | 00:01 |
| Docd | no, but i found this http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Maemo_5_SDK_installation_for_beginners | 00:01 |
| Docd | and it explicitly says how to add the browser | 00:01 |
| Docd | so i guess the emulator doesn't come with the basic apps | 00:01 |
| backseatgreg | erf | 00:02 |
| backseatgreg | do you plan to buy a n900 ? | 00:02 |
| Docd | yes, but it's too expensive now where i live (argentina) | 00:03 |
| woglinde | hm jebba has one | 00:03 |
| woglinde | and he is from .ar | 00:03 |
| Docd | he probably had ~1000 bucks lying around :p | 00:03 |
| ruskie | NZ,FI,AR,PL,US,NL,DE,SI,GB <-- hmm quite a collection... I'm especially suprised about the SI one | 00:04 |
| woglinde | ruskie *g* | 00:04 |
| ruskie | well I'm from SI so definately interesting to see someone else from around here | 00:05 |
| woglinde | si was? | 00:05 |
| ruskie | slovenia | 00:05 |
| woglinde | ah | 00:05 |
| backseatgreg | Docd, that's the price in USD ? | 00:06 |
| Docd | yes, backseatgreg | 00:06 |
| backseatgreg | arg | 00:06 |
| Docd | and here we don't earn in USD | 00:06 |
| backseatgreg | so expensive | 00:06 |
| Docd | so it's even more painful | 00:06 |
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| Docd | it's like two months salary | 00:07 |
| backseatgreg | that's crazy | 00:07 |
| ruskie | well I'd call it a premium item in most economies | 00:07 |
| Docd | yeah :/ | 00:07 |
| Docd | it is, of course | 00:07 |
| Docd | specially here | 00:07 |
| ruskie | 619 eur here... but then we got shafted a bit | 00:08 |
| backseatgreg | I thought it was expensive in France but I was wrong | 00:08 |
| ruskie | should have been 599 | 00:08 |
| ruskie | atleast if one takes into account 500 eur pre-tax price | 00:08 |
| ruskie | and with 20% tax it comes to 599 | 00:08 |
| Docd | the thing is, it's not officially selling here | 00:08 |
| backseatgreg | here in France I think it's 659 when buying it without a new phone operator subscription | 00:08 |
| Docd | so all the phones are imported by small sneaky business | 00:09 |
| jebba | mercadolibre ftw. but ya, expensive here | 00:09 |
| Docd | es | 00:09 |
| Docd | how much did you paid it, jebba? | 00:09 |
| Docd | if you don't mind me asking :/ | 00:10 |
| jebba | 1000 | 00:10 |
| Docd | seems to be the average price | 00:10 |
| ruskie | backseatgreg, yeah we are talking unbundled prices ;) | 00:10 |
| backseatgreg | ^ | 00:10 |
| backseatgreg | ^ | 00:10 |
| backseatgreg | ^^ | 00:10 |
| ruskie | I only found about a cellco bundling them like yesterday | 00:11 |
| ruskie | I posted on the forum in the subsidized cariers thread | 00:11 |
| ruskie | not really worth the 2 year contract | 00:11 |
| backseatgreg | ^ | 00:11 |
| backseatgreg | yup it depends | 00:11 |
| ruskie | 429 is without any special contract... just general subsidy | 00:12 |
| backseatgreg | got a 1 year iphone contrat that finished just 2 weeks before the n900 came out | 00:12 |
| ruskie | 329 is with the 55/77eur/month contract | 00:12 |
| ruskie | I still have the n95 on contract until May | 00:12 |
| backseatgreg | so I stop that contrat and took a new one, so the phone is 110 euros only (after refunds which I haven't received on my bank account at the moment) | 00:12 |
| ruskie | well no refunds here | 00:13 |
| Docd | if you get the n900 with a contract, is it still unlocked? | 00:13 |
| backseatgreg | even nokia 100euro refund ? | 00:13 |
| backseatgreg | yes it is unlocked | 00:13 |
| ruskie | backseatgreg, what nokia 100 eur refund? | 00:13 |
| ruskie | I bought it at the nokia shop here | 00:13 |
| ruskie | there was no rebate/refund etc... | 00:13 |
| backseatgreg | when I bought my n900 they gave me a paper, on that paper it was written that I had to register to ovi, print the confirmation email and send that to nokia to get a 100euro refund on the phone | 00:14 |
| backseatgreg | and I had a 50 euro from the phone shop too | 00:14 |
| backseatgreg | so I paid 259euros | 00:14 |
| backseatgreg | and I should receive 150 | 00:14 |
| ruskie | gave you a paper separately? | 00:15 |
| ruskie | or in the box? | 00:15 |
| backseatgreg | separately | 00:15 |
| ruskie | no such thing here | 00:15 |
| backseatgreg | hum | 00:15 |
| ruskie | but then most people tend to stuff us into eastern europe | 00:15 |
| backseatgreg | it's probably nokia france | 00:15 |
| backseatgreg | oh | 00:15 |
| ruskie | and we tend to get hardware that you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere else but maybe slovakia, chech republic and possibly poland | 00:16 |
| backseatgreg | you said you got it 1 month ago, here it cames out 3 weeks ago or something like that, and the first days it was only dozens of phones per days for all the country that were available, I was fighting to get one | 00:17 |
| backseatgreg | and I think it's still hard to get one | 00:17 |
| ruskie | I got it december 3rd | 00:17 |
| ruskie | and I was constantly bugging the store | 00:17 |
| ruskie | that was 2 days after they got them in the store | 00:18 |
| backseatgreg | hehe same strategy for me :) | 00:18 |
| ruskie | but most people around here tend to buy their cell phones with contracts | 00:18 |
| backseatgreg | it's cheaper | 00:19 |
| ruskie | and consider... 2 mio people, 4 primary operators, 3 roaming operators | 00:19 |
| backseatgreg | if you find a suitable contract | 00:19 |
| ruskie | not much room for freelance selling of mobile phones | 00:19 |
| ruskie | and iirc mobile penetration is 100+% | 00:20 |
| backseatgreg | iirc ? | 00:20 |
| ruskie | if I recall correctly | 00:20 |
| backseatgreg | what's iirc | 00:20 |
| ruskie | if I recall correctly | 00:20 |
| backseatgreg | oh | 00:22 |
| backseatgreg | lol | 00:22 |
| backseatgreg | :) | 00:22 |
| backseatgreg | *put the wine bottle back in the fridge* | 00:22 |
| ruskie | :) | 00:22 |
| backseatgreg | does anyone know a good free php hosting provider ? | 00:27 |
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| Docd | backseatgreg, do you know prgmr? | 00:58 |
| Docd | it's basically cheap vps | 00:59 |
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| ruskie | hny to those in EU | 01:14 |
| ruskie | and related timezones | 01:14 |
| woglinde | ruskie jupp | 01:14 |
| backseatgreg | Docd, no I didn't knew this one but I'm looking for a free one for temp website | 01:19 |
| Docd | oh, i see | 01:19 |
| Docd | for free i think... 110mb.com was good | 01:20 |
| Docd | but it's been a while | 01:20 |
| backseatgreg | oh pretty cool | 01:22 |
| backseatgreg | but no mysql support if not premium :/ | 01:22 |
| ruskie | so use sqlite? if it has it? | 01:23 |
| backseatgreg | doesn't seem to have any db | 01:24 |
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| Docd | so... how's 2010 doing over there? | 01:59 |
| ruskie | hmm anyone good with theming for the n900 ? | 02:00 |
| ifreq | nope.. but woud love to have star trek lcars like on my n770 =) | 02:01 |
| ruskie | naturally | 02:02 |
| ruskie | all I actually want though is to modify the digital nature theme to have green highlights instead of orange ones | 02:02 |
| ruskie | I guess I'll try to modify it myself | 02:02 |
| ifreq | hrr | 02:02 |
| ruskie | I'm not completly new to GTK themes | 02:02 |
| ifreq | you can do it | 02:03 |
| ifreq | nation is depending on you | 02:03 |
| ruskie | will just take time | 02:03 |
| ruskie | erm??? | 02:03 |
| ifreq | you dont watch hollywood movies? | 02:03 |
| ifreq | anything they do its something considering whole world/nation. | 02:04 |
| ruskie | as amazing as it sounds.. no I don't | 02:05 |
| ruskie | I prefer books | 02:05 |
| ruskie | hmm in 2009 I spent quite a lot of cash on various gadgets and computer upgrades... | 02:06 |
| ruskie | 300eur for the ebook reader, 620 for the n900, 250 for server and firewall upgrades to mini-itx, 160 for the desktop upgrade, 60eur fresh extended battery for the 701, various other bits and pieces | 02:07 |
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| backseatgreg | bye everyone have a good first 2010 night | 02:38 |
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| smurfy-phil | hi, happy new year :), i have a question about the autobuilder :) always get failed :( | 05:53 |
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| idra | hello I built an example package with Esbox (using the maemo 5 virt img as build environment) | 20:28 |
| idra | it installs fine using dpkg -i in the N900 but fails in red pill mode for the application manager | 20:28 |
| idra | it gives back the error: Incompatible application package | 20:28 |
| idra | any idea about it ? | 20:29 |
| jebba | if you dpkg -i it and then run "apt-get check" is everything OK? | 20:31 |
| idra | jebba, let me try | 20:33 |
| idra | jebba, apt-get check doesn throw any error, just reads package lists and state information | 20:34 |
| jebba | can you ls -l your .deb? Is it armel ARCH? | 20:35 |
| idra | jebba, not only it installs but it also works :) | 20:35 |
| idra | (although I had to find out libhildonmm libs and co in extras-devel | 20:36 |
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| idra | is there a log file for the application manager? | 20:38 |
| idra | or something that tells you exactly what test is failing ? | 20:38 |
| idra | uhmm is it possible that app. manager refuses to install the package because I haven't included an icon ? | 20:40 |
| jebba | not sure. i've suddenly got very distracted though. I just got fedora 12 running on N900 :=) | 20:40 |
| jebba | sry refocussing... | 20:40 |
| idra | jebba, wow that's great | 20:40 |
| * idra fedora developer :) | 20:41 | |
| idra | ah another intresting thing is that app. manager also can't install my package once installed with dpkg -i | 20:41 |
| idra | it simply doesn't show up in the uninstall list | 20:42 |
| jebba | idra: i just ran over to #fedora-arm btw | 20:42 |
| jebba | need to add Section: user/foo of some sort | 20:42 |
| idra | uhmm | 20:43 |
| idra | foo is actually the name of my app :) | 20:43 |
| idra | jebba, do you know if there are packages to run maemo sdk on fedora 12 btw ? | 20:43 |
| idra | I had to convert and install the vmware images with ubuntu 8.10 in it ... and while a vm is handy it is annoying sometimes | 20:44 |
| idra | lunch time, later | 20:45 |
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| jebba | irda check my pagfe for fedora x86_64 info | 20:53 |
| jebba | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/SDK | 20:53 |
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| idra | jebba, thanks, correctly setting the section did solve the problem | 22:16 |
| idra | jebba, and thanks for your f12 howto too | 22:17 |
| jebba | np :) | 22:18 |
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