IRC log of #maemo-devel for Thursday, 2009-12-10

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dwouldhey, anyone around for a python/gtk/hildon question (or 2)00:20
zgolddwould: go ahead and ask :)00:26
dwouldI switched my python app over to using GtkBuilder, and someone suggested I switch my GtkFileChoseDialog to a HildonFileChoserDialog00:27
dwouldhowever doing so just causes a segfault when I trigger the dialog...anyone have any hints on how to proceed?00:27
dwoulddamn, picked a bad time to get around to coming to ask...I have to run already. will try to get back to this when I have more time.00:35
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ruskiehmm if I want to run a command upon gprs0 ifup how would I do that?08:41
ruskiehmm well found one location... might not be the best but still08:59
ruskienow need to come up with some firewall rules for it08:59
ruskieelse it's wide open to the world08:59
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ruskienetstat: no kernel support for AF INET6 (tcp) <-- hmm interesting09:13
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* ruskie decides he needs a cron daemon on the n900 and builds fcron for it12:38
Stskeepsyou need to adapt it with libalarm12:38
ruskiewhy?12:39
Stskeepscos otherwise your device will sleep and miss cron targets12:39
ruskieno it won't ;)12:39
Stskeepsor have unreasonable wakeup amounts12:39
ruskiealso not12:39
Stskeepsthat was the motivation on n8x0.12:39
Stskeeps:P12:39
ruskiefcron sleeps until it has something to run, and it runs any jobs it missed upon bootup12:39
Stskeepsmm12:40
ruskie:)12:40
ruskienice isn't it ;)12:40
* Stskeeps has doubts but don't rely on it for alarm clock12:40
ruskieno that I won't12:40
ruskieonly want it for auto setting things like I want silent profile from now 'till then12:40
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ruskieand it's running ;)12:52
ruskiehad to do some manual stuff12:52
ruskielike user etc...12:52
ruskienow to see if it'll boot12:52
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ruskieyay12:54
ruskieso that's fcron taken care of12:54
ruskienow to setup the scripts to manage the silent/general profiles12:54
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ruskiethere... and fcron configured on the n900 to set my profile when I want to13:11
ruskieI have become so spoiled by the auto profiles app on the n95 that I just needed this thing ;)13:13
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ruskiehmm should I be seeing a birthday event(from a contact) in the calendar and if so why aren't I?14:18
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plr_rushkie you can toggle which calendars are shown14:19
plr_birthdays come to their own calendar database14:19
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ruskieow14:21
ruskieI see N900 and private14:21
ruskiethat's all14:21
ruskieis there any other?14:21
ruskieahh14:21
ruskiebdays smart14:21
ruskiethanks14:22
plr_yeah good14:24
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hrwhi14:26
Stskeepshiya hrw14:27
jebba1copying over the scratchbox to a new location (e.g. moving from /scratchbox to /home/jebba/scratchbox)  shouldn't cause any problems should it? Do I need to update any PATHs anywhere?14:59
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hrwsomeone remember a list of maemo5 stock icons?14:59
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JaffaBlimey - it's got busier here since VDVsx's announcement15:06
ruskie:)15:06
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Stskeepsshould be logged..15:09
Stskeeps:P15:09
jebbaJaffa: URL?15:12
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jebbaStskeeps: channel is logged   (?)15:12
Jaffajebba: http://maemo.org/community/council/new_maemo-org_irc_channels/15:12
jebbathx15:12
Stskeepsjebba: well like #maemo is15:12
jebbait is, see /topic15:13
Stskeepsah15:13
Stskeepscool15:13
ruskiehmm should probably be a more prominent notice15:14
jebbat.m.o15:17
ruskieaccording to freenode channel guidelines it should be a prominent notice when people join... i.e. either topic or a welcome message15:18
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VDVsxruskie, yeah we need a chanserver here to do that, feel free to bring one :P15:29
ruskieI don't have chanops status15:29
ruskiewhy not just set it in the topic15:29
ruskiesomething like Logs:15:30
ruskieit might not be completly obivous from the url15:30
ruskieI tend to skip urls in topics unless I see accompanying text15:30
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VDVsxbetter ? :P15:31
VDVsxbbl15:31
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ruskieyup15:34
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BabelO_hi18:39
ruskielo18:39
BabelO_I'm looking for some help to get my app into maemo extras18:40
BabelO_i already have a garage account18:40
BabelO_and a Deb package18:40
BabelO_my issue is that to compile my app i need qt 4.6 / gdal /proj418:40
ruskiehmm sounds like a GIS app18:41
BabelO_and i don't know how to proceed with garage autobuilder18:41
BabelO_ruskie, raster map app http://www.qlandkarte.org N900 version available at garage under name qlandkartem and a deb package if you want to try here http://linuxbox2.free.fr/QLandkarteM.deb18:42
ruskieBabelO_, http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras have you read this?18:43
BabelO_ruskie, yes i ve read it18:43
BabelO_ruskie, that's why i ve asked for a garage account18:44
VDVsxBabelO_, what's the problem ?18:44
BabelO_i mean an invitation to upload18:44
VDVsxextras assistant is very easy to use18:44
BabelO_can i just upload my Deb package ? if i don't need autobuilder ?18:45
ruskieseems like a non-free you could18:46
BabelO_ruskie, my application is free to use and source are available18:46
BabelO_that's why i ask18:46
VDVsxBabelO_, why you want to do that ?18:46
VDVsxwhy not upload as free18:47
BabelO_VDVsx, because i don't understand how to get gdal and proj4 compiled with autobuilder as dependancies18:47
VDVsxBabelO_, how did you did that under sbox ?18:47
BabelO_VDVsx, i simply download gdal tgz and proj4 tgz and build them + install18:48
VDVsxBabelO_, you need the packages upload to the autobuilder in advance, ie you need to build them first since you have depend on them18:48
ruskiehmm gdal is in etch18:49
ruskieso should be easy to get a deb rebuilt for maemo18:49
VDVsxBabelO_, well if you think that gdal and proj4 are not so popular, the easy way is just upload the deb18:49
BabelO_ruskie, ok, i just don't want to push some libraries into autobuilder that other people don't want18:50
ruskieif they are a dependency they would be needed18:51
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ruskiethere proj is in etch as well18:51
BabelO_ok so i need to proceed like for my project ?18:51
ruskieapt-get source proj gdal in scratchbox and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot18:51
ruskieand it tends to work18:52
BabelO_ruskie, yes, but in autobuilder ?18:52
ruskieno clue how the dependency stuff should be handled18:52
ruskiebut I guess yes18:52
BabelO_that's my problem in my scratchbox i already all18:53
BabelO_and my deb package contain the libraries too18:53
BabelO_with a symlink to install all in /opt18:53
ruskieso users would be locked into the libraries in your deb and couldn't update them separately?18:54
VDVsxBabelO_, why not use autotools, qmake... so of the most popular tools ? :D18:54
VDVsxS/so/some/18:55
BabelO_VDVsx, i use qmake in my project that's the standard18:55
BabelO_but still no clue how to do with autobuilder at garage18:55
ruskie2.7M proj_4.4.9d-2_armel.deb not the smallest but still18:55
ruskiegdal on the other hand seems to need a small pile of crap18:56
BabelO_all stuff for gdal are already in N90018:56
VDVsxBabelO_, and you can just link your app against gdal and proj4, and it will work ? no runtime deps ?18:57
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ruskiehmm staticaly linking them in would certainly help18:58
BabelO_VDVsx, yes gdal + proj4 +libqt418:58
BabelO_no static18:58
VDVsxBabelO_, so without those packages it won't work18:59
VDVsxyou need to build them first if they don't exist atm18:59
BabelO_yes i know18:59
ruskieVDVsx, the way I understand him he includes all the libs into the deb18:59
ruskiewhich I think is wrong on some level somewhere18:59
BabelO_you can look at my deb18:59
VDVsxvery wrong19:00
VDVsxBabelO_, gonna look19:00
BabelO_i do /usr/lib/libgdal.so and proj symlink to /opt/qlandkartem19:00
BabelO_so i install on the 2Gb partion19:00
VDVsxBabelO_, but if someone needs that deps as well and does the same thing that you did, more space will be need, if everyone does that the 2 gb will be out with just a few apps19:01
BabelO_VDVsx, i know that yes19:02
VDVsxBabelO_, you need to build the gdal and proj4 for maemo19:02
VDVsxisn't difficult19:02
BabelO_that's why i ask here about doing a nice package for maemo fremantle in autobuilder19:02
VDVsxgrab the debian or ubuntu sources19:02
BabelO_so you told me to create a package gdal in autobuilder19:02
BabelO_and another for proj419:02
VDVsxyes19:03
BabelO_using etch deb19:03
ruskiehmm would be nice if the autobuilder could grab the missing stuff from debian and modify the bits it might need19:03
BabelO_agree with ruskie19:03
ruskiehmm I need to modify the Digital Nature theme... want to have green highlights19:04
VDVsxgrab the tar.gz and the diff apply the diff and then add a new line in the changelog(dch -i) file to something-maemo1 added maemo-optify to the rules files and package according to the instructions in the extras upload page19:05
VDVsxruskie, that's very variable, might work for some stuff19:05
ruskietrue19:05
* ruskie really hates the optification19:05
VDVsxruskie, I normally just change the rules files if they aren't a mess, so it install directly to opt19:06
kulvedget http://path/to/file.dsc will download .dsc, .diff and .tar.gz. dpkg-source -x file.dsc will untar the tar.gz and apply the patch19:06
ruskieand I just went and made a 5gb /usr on the emmc :)19:06
ruskieand never modify anything for optification :)19:07
* VDVsx blames win users :P19:08
ruskieI'd like to setup my own repository and autobuilder to roll non optified things19:08
VDVsxBabelO_, please see kulve's suggestion above, that's the easiest way to do my messy instructions :P19:09
BabelO_VDVsx, yes that is what i m looking for a dsc package around gdal 1.6.x other version are broken19:11
BabelO_thanks kulve19:11
BabelO_this one look good http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libgdal1-1.6.019:12
VDVsxBabelO_, I normally use the ubuntu or debian package search for that19:12
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BabelO_other subject :) is there an API to get current playing song  tags ?19:14
BabelO_i just want to do a small daemon or app that publish the text on Radio RDS title19:14
BabelO_better that Nokia display19:14
ruskiehmm could be a dbus call19:15
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BabelO_ruskie, right :) but did not found where is see it last time19:15
BabelO_don't remember if it is a gstreamer call19:15
BabelO_or another lib19:15
ruskietry with dbus-monitor19:15
BabelO_right19:16
BabelO_ruskie, good i see it19:17
BabelO_i m not a dbus master :)19:17
ruskieneither am I19:17
ruskieinfact frist time I did anything with it was yesterday19:17
ruskiefigureing out how to change profiles19:17
ruskiesilent and general19:18
ruskieand now have a cron daemon and a script that sets it as I want :)19:18
ruskiethough need to see why cron doesn't work as it should19:18
BabelO_ruskie, i ve done some code to automatically change profile depending on GSM cells19:18
BabelO_better with cells19:19
ruskieI need it time based ;)19:19
BabelO_you go to office and it switch to vibrate19:19
BabelO_ruskie, ok19:19
BabelO_time based is good for night at home19:19
BabelO_or from calendar19:19
ruskieI work from 0700-150019:19
ruskiethat's all I really care19:19
BabelO_can be a good app19:19
BabelO_ruskie, ok19:19
BabelO_me i want full volume when at home19:20
BabelO_vibrate at office19:20
BabelO_and some other place19:20
BabelO_so for me gsm cells or calendar is ok :)19:20
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BabelO_org.maemo.playback019:21
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VDVsxBabelO, btw, your app doesn't start here20:13
VDVsxBabelO, missing dep -> libqt4-maemo5-maemo520:18
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ruskiedouble maemo5 ?20:19
VDVsxruskie, yes20:19
ruskieweird20:19
VDVsxlibqt4-maemo5-maemo5 - Qt 4 Maemo5 module20:19
VDVsx:D20:19
VDVsxthe GTK+ wrapper20:19
BabelO__lol you are playing with qt20:20
ruskiehmm seems like my fcron stuff works... though had to make it not log20:20
VDVsxBabelO_, saw my comment about your app ?20:20
BabelO__VD no20:20
BabelO__i m at home now20:21
VDVsxBabelO_, <VDVsx> BabelO, btw, your app doesn't start here20:21
VDVsx<VDVsx> BabelO, missing dep -> libqt4-maemo5-maemo520:21
VDVsxnow works20:21
BabelO__VDVsx: ah ok, i take note20:21
BabelO__VDVsx: to be perfect you need geotiff file of your area20:21
ruskiehmm I thought gdal makes it possible to use anything20:22
ruskieor nearly anything20:22
BabelO__yes20:22
BabelO__wms server too20:22
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BabelO__VDVsx: does other deps install automatically ?20:25
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ruskieI don't see them in the repos20:25
ruskiegdal and proj that is20:26
VDVsxBabelO_, using app manager yes, using apt-get it complains about the missing deps20:26
VDVsxthat's normal20:26
BabelO__VDVsx: ok because i ve used mBarcode and got some missing deps with app manager20:27
VDVsxbut the dep that I mentioned above is not in the debian/control file it seems20:27
BabelO__VDVsx: no i forgot this one20:27
VDVsxBabelO_, should be a problem with zbar20:27
BabelO__VDVsx: yes that was20:28
BabelO__solved by hand20:28
VDVsxtry to unistall mbarcode and zbar and install everything again20:28
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ruskiehmm should supertux have any background music?20:32
BabelOyes20:32
ruskieahh I guess it's the if in silent profile it's not there20:32
ruskiehmm the privacy guard is holding up well20:35
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ruskiehmm blobwars: metal blob solid would be a nice addition as ell21:16
VDVsxruskie, if it can run without openGl should be easy to port21:17
ruskiehmm no clue21:19
ruskieit is 2d only21:19
ruskieuses sdl21:20
ruskiegah extras-devel seem to be offline again :(21:24
VDVsxruskie, http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/blobwars/21:27
VDVsxso we need to wait :)21:27
ruskieerm21:28
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ruskiewell can build it but would need to fix the keys it seems and other input stuff21:43
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