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| VDVsx | andre__, did you tried to reproduce #7285 ? very funny :p | 02:02 |
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| andre__ | VDVsx: actually I did not try. I simply copy reports that are good - saves time and Nokia has enough testers while I have enough work already ;-/ | 02:03 |
| VDVsx | eheh, np, but is funny ;) | 02:04 |
| VDVsx | ah, the bug is assigned to a ex University classmate, gonna kick his ass :p | 02:04 |
| VDVsx | andre__, nokia has testers ? really ? :p | 02:05 |
| * VDVsx his kidding | 02:05 | |
| andre__ | sometimes I wonder too | 02:07 |
| andre__ | but if I'm angry then more with some designers... | 02:07 |
| frals | 7126 is pretty funny... only when i got it it just killed hildon-home | 02:08 |
| * andre__ still grumbles about that unusable polish hardware keyboard layout | 02:08 | |
| VDVsx | eheh | 02:08 |
| andre__ | stuff I can design in one hour in my freetime, and some paid guys don't get it right in months | 02:08 |
| VDVsx | is this kb design only for Poland ? or more countries ? | 02:10 |
| andre__ | only poland. | 02:10 |
| andre__ | well. I've ranted enough already internally. :-P | 02:10 |
| VDVsx | lol | 02:10 |
| * andre__ postpones his internal weekly report to tomorrow | 02:11 | |
| andre__ | must people will be on holidays and won't realize anyway I hope | 02:11 |
| VDVsx | there's also one of CZ or you guys use the German one ? | 02:11 |
| frals | does it add any value to #7126 if add a python script that crashes hildon-home (from what i can see) and note that it doesnt remove any widgets or is that gonna be covered since the already reported removes all widgets? ;o | 02:14 |
| andre__ | VDVsx, CZ is a separate layout. and it works perfectly. :) | 02:17 |
| andre__ | no, German is completely different | 02:17 |
| wolf^ | andre__, there is no polish hw keyboard (thankfully) | 02:17 |
| andre__ | wolf^, yeah, it's actually the english one | 02:18 |
| andre__ | wolf^, uhm? but do you have four or two arrow keys? | 02:18 |
| wolf^ | 4 | 02:18 |
| andre__ | yay | 02:18 |
| wolf^ | dpad would be better though | 02:18 |
| andre__ | good for some people, maybe bad for average people. depends what you type probably... | 02:18 |
| wolf^ | really hard to press up and right, for example | 02:19 |
| andre__ | the N3000 will fix it :-D | 02:19 |
| andre__ | sigh. too many reports. at least I triaged all reports from the PR1.1 testers now. priorities..... | 02:20 |
| VDVsx | puff, N3000 is very lame, N7000 is much better:D | 02:24 |
| wolf^ | let's make it N9001 | 02:24 |
| wolf^ | to be over 9000 | 02:24 |
| andre__ | sound like ISO standards to me :-P | 02:25 |
| VDVsx | true | 02:26 |
| VDVsx | lol | 02:26 |
| * andre__ rebooting in Polish | 02:26 | |
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| VDVsx | andre__, re bug 7274, strange since I've 51.1 | 02:35 |
| VDVsx | povbot`, ping | 02:36 |
| povbot` | pong | 02:36 |
| VDVsx | bug 7274 | 02:36 |
| VDVsx | bah | 02:36 |
| andre__ | VDVsx, it's another branch | 02:37 |
| andre__ | it's fixed in master, but not in the PR1.1 branch | 02:37 |
| andre__ | (and I might leak information by writing this :-P ) | 02:37 |
| VDVsx | good :) | 02:37 |
| * VDVsx save the logs :D | 02:38 | |
| andre__ | darn :-P | 02:38 |
| andre__ | this chatroom will self-destruct in 2 seconds | 02:38 |
| andre__ | damn, this xchat plugin seems to be broken. | 02:39 |
| VDVsx | the bug is probably there in previous versions, but I usually use English as default language | 02:39 |
| andre__ | same here | 02:41 |
| GAN900 | andre__, perhaps we ought to look at a more structured way of distributing the load around in January? | 02:43 |
| andre__ | GAN900, oh yeah, highly welcome. I've been thinking about how to do it... | 02:44 |
| GAN900 | andre__, the number of reports is steadily increasing, and there are a few people who'd be happy to help but a structure would probably make it more workable. . . . | 02:44 |
| andre__ | and whether importing also "less valuable" reports might make sense to create more pressure | 02:44 |
| GAN900 | Hehe | 02:44 |
| andre__ | and get more Nokians into | 02:44 |
| GAN900 | Maybe we need chocolate | 02:44 |
| andre__ | but Tero definitely promised me to convince people to get into the open | 02:44 |
| GAN900 | We need our carrot/stick | 02:45 |
| GAN900 | The Bugzilla report card thing would be really good. | 02:45 |
| andre__ | if you have any idea for better structure | 02:45 |
| andre__ | i'm more than interested | 02:45 |
| GAN900 | Can you feed something like that to management internally | 02:46 |
| VDVsx | bribe them :D | 02:46 |
| GAN900 | No, I don't particularly has any useful ideas. :/ | 02:46 |
| VDVsx | what the finns like ? | 02:46 |
| GAN900 | We should do an end-of-year analysis on the Fremantle reports. | 02:46 |
| wolf^ | VDVsx, vodka and salamiakki, not necessarily separate ;) | 02:47 |
| GAN900 | VDVsx, maybe we should repurpose the "random community members" in the sidebar as a "wall of shame"? *eg* | 02:48 |
| * andre__ updates his scripts (new version), drops his report for tonight, and hopes to get out into the snow here at 2AM | 02:48 | |
| * VDVsx googles salamiakki | 02:48 | |
| GAN900 | andre__, I have some time this weekend. | 02:48 |
| andre__ | you know, it really depends on report quality. if a report is good it's awesome and not much work. if a report is bad that's what takes away the tim | 02:48 |
| VDVsx | GAN900, good idea, only Nokian with bug karma < 5 :D | 02:49 |
| andre__ | GAN900, me too :-P | 02:49 |
| GAN900 | I'll ponder on it a bit and see if I can't come up with some proposals. | 02:49 |
| andre__ | very welcome | 02:49 |
| andre__ | I wonder for example whether to introduce a "not-reproducible" keyword, in case I want a confirmation by a second user | 02:49 |
| GAN900 | Can we set the status for canconfirm users to UNCONFIRMED by default? | 02:49 |
| andre__ | Not in this fscking old version :-( | 02:50 |
| GAN900 | 3.4? | 02:50 |
| * andre__ googles | 02:50 | |
| GAN900 | Should we use our stick to beat Karsten? :D | 02:50 |
| GAN900 | andre__, I have a feeling that we want to move you up a notch up the foodchain | 02:51 |
| andre__ | GAN900, actually if Karsten had more hours it would be faster ;-) Hence talk to Nokians (I did not mention some manager's name already, did I?) and say that he's important... | 02:51 |
| andre__ | of course I've done so too | 02:51 |
| GAN900 | andre__, reduce the number of UNCINFIRMED bugs you're looking at per week | 02:52 |
| andre__ | because if he works on technical stuff that's 5 times faster than if I did :-P | 02:52 |
| GAN900 | Anybody can triage those. | 02:52 |
| andre__ | GAN900, still, if there's important ones I want to catch them | 02:52 |
| GAN900 | But we need you for importing and a portion of the poking. | 02:52 |
| GAN900 | andre__, indeed, but I'd rather community folks be carrying that load. | 02:52 |
| andre__ | because if community finds important flaws they are good "showcases" to convince some sceptical nokians of "hey, that community feedback makes sense" | 02:53 |
| andre__ | GAN900, definitely | 02:53 |
| * GAN900 should triage 5 reports every morning. | 02:53 | |
| andre__ | Ubuntu has that concept | 02:54 |
| andre__ | "5 a day" | 02:54 |
| andre__ | pretty cool idea | 02:54 |
| GAN900 | NEW stuff is the stuff I see you being more useful on. | 02:54 |
| andre__ | in general I love Ubuntu's marketing. and Firefox' of course... | 02:54 |
| andre__ | true | 02:54 |
| GAN900 | You're like Quim now, we don't need you bogged down with drudge work. ;) | 02:55 |
| andre__ | heh | 02:55 |
| * GAN900 files a bug about UNCONFIRMED/canconfirm | 02:56 | |
| andre__ | thanks | 02:57 |
| GAN900 | bug 7462 | 03:01 |
| GAN900 | Gawds, 344 updated reports in the past 48 hours. | 03:02 |
| andre__ | WHAT? | 03:03 |
| andre__ | whouah | 03:03 |
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| GAN900 | Night, andre__ | 03:29 |
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| andre__ | int received_email_requests_for_PR1_1_testing++; | 13:14 |
| frals | :D | 13:22 |
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| andre__ | somebody with an N900 willing to try https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2723 ? | 15:48 |
| povbot` | Bug 2723: Pushing key once causes multiple repeats | 15:48 |
| andre__ | I'd love to know whether this still happens or not | 15:48 |
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| edheldil | andre__: I certainly do not see the last reported problem, but I have n900 for a couple of days only | 16:32 |
| edheldil | the one with kb going "bonky" after repeated Fn | 16:32 |
| andre__ | ah, that one | 16:34 |
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| range | andre__: Cannot reproduce, added a note. | 17:01 |
| andre__ | range, thanks a lot! | 17:01 |
| range | No problem. | 17:02 |
| andre__ | The daily spam is getting better: "I am Andrews Taylor and i will like to Place an Order on your (Bricks, Sheet Size: 15 3/4"W x 11 3/4"L)," | 17:12 |
| andre__ | They don't mean a broken N900, do they? :-P | 17:12 |
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| VDVsx | wow, bug 7500, who will report the 10k :) | 19:14 |
| GAN900 | Me, and I better get a fricken tshirt. :P | 19:18 |
| andre__ | Mozilla always has a contest - they let people guess when exactly it will be filed. | 19:18 |
| VDVsx | TMO poll ? :) | 19:19 |
| VDVsx | wow, someone ported a ngage game to maemo | 19:19 |
| andre__ | ahaha, no, that's too anonymous i think | 19:19 |
| * VDVsx wonders about the effort needed for that | 19:20 | |
| andre__ | two lemons, a screwdriver and some nuclear material. not *that* complicated. | 19:20 |
| VDVsx | lol | 19:22 |
| VDVsx | for what do you need the lemons ? :D | 19:23 |
| andre__ | sorry, can't talk about this in public | 19:25 |
| VDVsx | ok, just send my the schematics in pvt :D | 19:25 |
| andre__ | i saw it on a tv show. I *know* it works, because it was on tv! :-P | 19:26 |
| VDVsx | lolol | 19:33 |
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| andre__ | anybody willing to add some results to https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7499 by opening the terminal, running "ls -al", dropping some unimportant stuff and mention if you have a backup resotred before, or not? | 21:08 |
| povbot` | Bug 7499: Permissions in /home/user on some dirs are much to permissive (rwxrwxrwx) | 21:08 |
| wolf^ | andre__, 777 on MyDocs and .signon | 21:09 |
| wolf^ | without restore | 21:10 |
| andre__ | a damn. moment. I do have a completely fresh second device here. I should try that one | 21:10 |
| * andre__ sometimes forget all the hardware around | 21:11 | |
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| andre__ | g'night :) | 23:05 |
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