IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2013-11-12

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Kabouik_Hi there02:40
Kabouik_I can't seem to ssh to my N9 through USB, don't know what I did wront02:41
Kabouik_I did change user password using passwd in terminal, same for root, enabled SDK/USB/VNC02:41
Kabouik_And in Filezilla I'm trying to connect to the IP shown in SDK, as user + the password I set. No success. Same for root. And same if I use the password provided in SDK (which is different)02:42
Kabouik_The N9 is USB-connected in SDK mode02:42
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EztranIsn't Filezilla an FTP client only?02:49
Kabouik_There is a SFTP option02:52
Kabouik_And I think I already used it to ssh to the N9 in the past02:52
bef0rdI'm not sure if SFTP is the same as SSH/SCP, I would recommend trying WinSCP02:52
Kabouik_I tried it too :[02:52
bef0rdbut first make sure you are able to ssh into the phone02:52
Kabouik_Should I used the password displayed in SDK, or the one I set in terminal?02:53
bef0rdis the ethernet interface created when you plug the device?02:53
bef0rdwhat's your desktop OS?02:53
Kabouik_Seven 6402:53
bef0rdI think the password displayed in the SDK is for the "developer" user02:53
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Kabouik_Well, tried that user too then, no success either02:54
bef0rdare you able to ping the phone ip from the desktop?02:54
Kabouik_Nope02:54
EztranThere's the problem then - networking.02:54
EztranWhen you attach the phone in SDK mode, and check Devices and Printers, do you get 'Nokia N9 RNDIS/Ethernet'?02:55
Kabouik_Yes, but in "Not specified" category, which seems to be the "Bugged devices category"02:56
bef0rddoes it have a warning symbol or something?02:58
EztranCan be. 'Needs troubleshooting' kinda icon? If so, lack of drivers, most likely. Had this problem in the past. Can't remember how to actually resolve it, though... possibly just try making Windows troubleshoot it?02:58
bef0rdcheck properties it should say if its working or if it needs drivers02:58
Kabouik_Just a minute, phone call, be right back02:58
EztranActually, Nokia Suite might be the thing which installed correct drivers. Even though the N9's not really supported.03:07
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Kabouik_Suite is trying to install them, but it seems to hang with the loading03:13
Kabouik_What is weird is that Nokia Suite was working a few days ago and recognized the N903:13
Kabouik_Alright, N9 recognized by Suite when in Sync USB mode (does not appear in the "Not specified" category of Devices and Printers, but when I try to connect in SDK mode, it's back there03:17
Kabouik_And still no ping03:17
EztranWell, when you connect the N9, do you get Windows' popup about installing drivers? It probably fails anyway, but does it appear?03:18
Kabouik_Yes, but it fails03:18
Kabouik_Not automatically, but when I try Windows troubleshoot on the RNDIS/Ethernet icon in "Not specified" category03:18
EztranManually setting the N9 to use Windows' default RNDIS driver appears to get something working, although it may take some playing with configs to get a proper connection. Still, you really shouldn't have to do that. =/03:23
Kabouik_I don't even how to do that :[03:24
bef0rdinstalling the drivers for N9 on windows has to be documented on the internet, please check03:24
EztranSure, installing drivers for sync and connect or mass storage - easy. USB networking, not so much.03:26
EztranWell, except on Linux, obviously.03:26
bef0rdon OSX works automagically too03:28
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bef0rdhttp://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-2.3/creator-developing-meego.html03:29
bef0rdaccording to that should be calles "Linux USB Ethernet/RNDIS gadget"03:29
EztranYeah, that doesn't happen (I'm trying on a recently reinstalled Windows laptop). Probably would, with the correct drivers.03:30
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Kabouik_http://developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php/229763-RNDIS-driver-for-N9?p=865556&viewfull=1#post865556 Tried that, no success either03:32
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EztranAh. I have got the generic one working to some extent (though why do you have to!?), but not quite there yet.03:32
Kabouik_I'm gonna have to give up for tonight, it's 2:32 and I work early tomorrow03:33
EztranFair enough.03:33
Kabouik_By the way, I'm just trying to have root access to my N9 from my computer03:33
Kabouik_Or even user access03:33
bef0rdI think that root access from remote ssh was disabled with PR1.2, I could be wrong03:34
bef0rduser accesss should work03:34
EztranSounds possible, but getting user then doing stuff as root by, say, opensudo works.03:34
Kabouik_To backup /home/user/.mms, but seeing the issue, I wanted to solve it too. I guess I could save the .mms folder just using Filebox directly on the N9 and copy it in MyDocs03:34
EztranYeah, that'd work.03:35
EztranI usually connect over wireless to the N9, it's far easier (counter-intuitively).03:36
Kabouik_Yes, but it's a desktop PC here03:36
Kabouik_It's connected to a router, but has no WiFI receiver03:36
EztranSure. Desktop connected to router connected to N9 works too.03:36
Kabouik_Oh, how?03:38
Kabouik_Only if it's short, otherwise I'll see that another evening :p03:38
EztranBasically, point your ssh client at the IP your router assigns to the N9.03:39
Kabouik_Oh, I'll give it a try then. Could be convenient, as I can get the router to give a fixed IP03:40
EztranLast I checked, you could connect directly. This was on a Linux box, but there's no reason Windows shouldn't be able to do the same - there shouldn't any driver problems in the way this time,03:43
Kabouik_Yes, I'll try that, thanks03:43
EztranHope that works better for you. Finding it a bit ridiculous myself that Windows can't find a driver, though.03:43
Kabouik_At the beginning, all I was trying was to backup my sms because I can't receive or send mms anymore :'( (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1384879&postcount=169)03:44
Kabouik_But it's been a while since the last time I got into the N9's terminal, so obviously that couldn't be that easy ;)03:45
Kabouik_Good night/evening all depending on your location, thanks again03:46
EztranArgh, tracker strikes again. Goodnight from here, too.03:47
Kabouik_Well, couldn't give up without trying... Wifi connection via the router works for root, not for user03:50
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Kabouik_But it detects the N9 (which it didn't via USB)03:50
EztranWell, that's... interesting.03:50
Kabouik_There's a login error for user (but I've just changed the passwd in terminal so I know what it is), but not for root03:51
Kabouik_Root is OK for me ;). Now the main issue I'll have to fix will be that smsbackuprestore that won't work03:51
EztranWell, I'd have expected user to work but not root, so, um, OK. I guess that's more useful?03:51
Kabouik_Yeah that'll be OK for me if root works03:52
Kabouik_Good night all, see you soon here or on TMO for the smsbackuprestore problem (unfortunately)! :)03:52
Eztran'night.03:53
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