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| coderus | Jonni: hello there, any info about nokia download repositories for harmattan life cycle? | 14:50 |
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| Jonni | coderus: no idea, I've backupped everything just in case ;-) | 14:51 |
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| coderus | Jonni: well, my question actually about redistributing this repositories. | 14:52 |
| coderus | Jonni: can we upload to own repositories publicity> | 14:53 |
| coderus | Jonni: and announce about working backup in web? | 14:53 |
| Jonni | but my hunch is that repositories will work still atleast for few years. | 14:56 |
| Jonni | so its quite unlikely that we would need to host our own repoes | 14:56 |
| coderus | Jonni: actually some dns/policy issues in some countries. some peoples cant use nokia repositories, blocked by some isp. | 14:57 |
| Jonni | well they can if they install tor client :) | 14:59 |
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| coderus | they cant install tor without active developer mode hosted o blocked host :) | 15:00 |
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| coderus | anyway. any legal issues about redistributing n9 and unreleased n950 pr13 repos> | 15:02 |
| coderus | s/>/? | 15:03 |
| Jonni | ofcourse there might be, I have no idea what nokia legal is doing nowadays, but I bet that they have the IPR and copyright for the binaries. | 15:06 |
| Jonni | dont know if they bother to spend time on dead platform tough. atleast nobody has botherred harmattan-dev mirror | 15:07 |
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| coderus | thanks :) | 15:20 |
| Hurrian | iirc, didn't HF ask Nokia for permission to do so, only to be met with disinterest from Nokia? | 15:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | Might it even be micrsoft? | 15:28 |
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| Kabouik__ | Hey guys, my N9 keeps telling me that I have not enough space available to receive or send MMS. I've cleared all my files in the .callRecorder folder (which was what took most of the space, and kept increasing of course) | 15:30 |
| Kabouik__ | Then I've run DropCache (free all), and even rebooted | 15:31 |
| Hurrian | check free space on /home | 15:31 |
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| Kabouik__ | But the problem persists. What should I do? I've found nothing relevant on TMO | 15:31 |
| Hurrian | MMS are not stored on MyDocs (partition exported when connected to PC) | 15:31 |
| Kabouik__ | 124 MB free on /home out of 2 GB | 15:32 |
| Kabouik__ | 339 free on internal drive | 15:32 |
| Hurrian | hmm, that sounds dangerously close to the 5% reserved free space default on EXT4. | 15:33 |
| Kabouik__ | And 7.6 GB free on MyDocs (not relevant) | 15:33 |
| Kabouik__ | Oh, so I need to free up some space in /home. What is the most space consuming there? | 15:33 |
| Kabouik__ | I don't really know how it got full, I mostly use space reserved in MyDocs | 15:34 |
| Hurrian | usually, only config files, texts/IMs, contacts and tracker databases are stored there. | 15:34 |
| Hurrian | if you have terminal, run 'du -h' on /home to see the biggest space wasters | 15:34 |
| Kabouik__ | Oh, so the issue is probably with texts then. Crap, didn't want to clear them. | 15:34 |
| Hurrian | You can export them before deleting if you want to archive them. | 15:35 |
| Hurrian | The export process is really, really buggy, and will test your patience, but it works. | 15:35 |
| Kabouik__ | You're not selling that option right :P | 15:36 |
| Hurrian | I restore the database to an Android phone, and then back it up to Evernote, now it's human readable and searchable :P | 15:36 |
| Hurrian | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83166 | 15:36 |
| Kabouik__ | I have no Android phone unfortunately. Nokia Suite can't backup the texts and mms? | 15:37 |
| Hurrian | It can, as part of the 'backup' option, but the data'll be stuck in Nokia Suite (eww!) | 15:37 |
| Kabouik__ | Yeah, does not sound god | 15:38 |
| Kabouik__ | good | 15:38 |
| Kabouik__ | I'll give a try to SMS Backup and Restore | 15:39 |
| Hurrian | I've gotten into the habit of just backing up texts occasionally then nuking the database occasionally since the Messaging app gets sloooooooooooooooooooow after a few thousand SMSes. | 15:40 |
| Kabouik__ | By the way, DropCache says I have only 9 mb free out of 985 for "Memory". What "Memory" is this about? Just above Swap. | 15:40 |
| Hurrian | That's free memory, stuff the system is 100% not using. | 15:41 |
| Kabouik__ | I don't understand if I have 9 free Mb, or 976. The gaucge is misleading | 15:41 |
| Hurrian | It means jack on a mobile system - MeeGo caches libraries to memory to reduce launch times | 15:41 |
| Hurrian | The only thing you should be worried about is "active" memory, which unless you're running a game or have 20 windows open in the browser, hovers somewhere around 512 MB. | 15:43 |
| Kabouik__ | here can I check active memory? | 15:43 |
| Kabouik__ | Where* | 15:43 |
| Hurrian | 'top' in terminal. | 15:44 |
| Hurrian | it is very hard to fill 1GB of RAM on the phone. | 15:44 |
| Hurrian | plus, most users have ramzswap enabled, so there's that | 15:44 |
| Hurrian | I wouldn't lose sleep over it, unlike on the N900. | 15:44 |
| Kabouik__ | Only have 140000K free; 5 apps running (Mtermite, Opera, DropCache, Sms, Alarm) | 15:45 |
| Hurrian | 116324k free with /nothing/ running besides Terminal. | 15:45 |
| Hurrian | Probably just some more caching done by booster - I've got around 2 months of uptime ;) | 15:46 |
| Kabouik__ | Ok | 15:46 |
| Kabouik__ | And by the way, I don't think I have ramzswap enabled. :o | 15:46 |
| Kabouik__ | I'm reading http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83731, but never did that on N9 I think | 15:47 |
| auenf | when a 4yr old borrows my phone, i'm sure when i get it back the ram would be quite full | 15:47 |
| Hurrian | it's actually default on the N9. | 15:47 |
| Kabouik__ | Ah. | 15:47 |
| Hurrian | 'cat /proc/swaps' | 15:47 |
| auenf | pretty much every game on the phone is left running open :P | 15:47 |
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| Kabouik__ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83166 I don't get where is the GUI fork. I followed the line, installed the deb, but I have no shortcut on homescreen so I doubt there is a GUI. | 15:56 |
| Kabouik__ | link, not line* | 15:57 |
| Kabouik__ | Is there a .deb package for the GUI fork? | 16:02 |
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| Kabouik__ | Well, unfortunately the smsbackuprestore tool doesn't work for me, says libqtcontacts-tracker: queue.ccp:104: The task queue's background thread stalled | 16:15 |
| Kabouik__ | And the .csv file is of 0 b size | 16:15 |
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