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| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: slowly slowly but going forward | 01:00 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | :) | 01:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, learning much? | 01:01 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: currently i can list ll available devices and refresh them ( sowatch uses name to chech if it's metawatch so woul i) | 01:04 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i scan - keep them in model and return it to qml | 01:04 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as well added context menu to connect | 01:04 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and i can pair | 01:04 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's mostly half pair | 01:05 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as it asks for code on phone and after input it would show on watch thats's it pairing but i need to exchange data with it | 01:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | How infeasible is it to use sowatch's rendering on BlackBerry? | 01:05 |
| ZogG_lap1op | didn't check it actually | 01:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | sowatch is too complicated | 01:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 01:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | That was my opinion after looking at the code | 01:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's separeted in libs | 01:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | But I'm a noob. | 01:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Maybe bug javispedro for assistance if you need it. | 01:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and it's supports few watches | 01:06 |
| Win7Mac | Hi GA! | 01:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hi, Win7Mac. | 01:06 |
| Win7Mac | http://doodle.com/6ibrme7bcd2mu434bbkrpbas/admin?#cmt1296982158 | 01:06 |
| Win7Mac | please check in! | 01:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i do understand parts of it i need | 01:07 |
| Win7Mac | missed my mail? | 01:07 |
| Win7Mac | sorry for OT | 01:07 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: i bet my arch and logic wouldn't be the best as my practice is oob and developing is not that rich :) but we learn for that, don't we | 01:07 |
| ZogG_lap1op | hope for next weekend to be able to connect and send something to watch and back from watch :) | 01:08 |
| bef0rd | hi | 01:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Win7Mac, done. | 01:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | Win7Mac, I think I saw it when I was at work, and forgot to follow up when I got home. | 01:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, nice resume fodder all around. | 01:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, THANK YOU for working on this. I have neither the time nor skillset for it. | 01:12 |
| Win7Mac | GA, thanks could you remind chemist + Jaffa please, I might miss the right tone ;) | 01:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'll poke them if I see them | 01:14 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Win7Mac: no one takes GeneralAntilles seriously nowdays. Not anymore, not without his bear | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | I, uh, miss the authority it lent me. | 01:14 |
| ZogG_lap1op | bef0rd: here | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | But old ladies don't look at me like a criminal so much anymore. | 01:15 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: i shave once few months and cut hair once a year | 01:15 |
| Win7Mac | haha... | 01:15 |
| ZogG_lap1op | people don't recognize me everytime | 01:15 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i look 12 withut bear | 01:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | There's something to be said for being about to look between teens and late 20s depending on hairstyle. | 01:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | :( | 01:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | btw what are the thought on jolla and android | 01:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i don't get why people are so happy about it | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ambivalent | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's nice to have as a user, painful as a free software person | 01:17 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's like to tell "we open own car factory, but we'll sell other's cars, not most official but 3rd party copy-cats" | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a nice feature on BB10 | 01:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | At least we can get apps | 01:18 |
| ZogG_lap1op | how can i contact Futurama creators, i want to ask them to create give me my money back meme so i can use it ! | 01:18 |
| bef0rd | I have mixed feelings about it on BB10, as a developer, why should I do something in cascades/qt if there is an android port that kinda works | 01:18 |
| bef0rd | but as user it's nice to have it | 01:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | not nice as user | 01:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | skype sucks, waze sucks | 01:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's laggy, looks not native ( i even would prefer web frameworks app that would act native over c++ android one :( | 01:19 |
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| GeneralAntilles | bef0rd, because it's much less sucky that way. | 01:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and by telling - you 'll get those apps we can't give you from android - is like to tell you - you need android to get those app, so why would i buy jolla? | 01:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | BB10 hasn't been killed by Android player | 01:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | I mean, even MLB (baseball) shipped a native application. | 01:21 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and again NO OFFICAL PLAY STORE, but 3rd party chinese store with you know what context | 01:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | those apps we have in ovi for harmattan | 01:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | those like GPS ITALIA, GPS BERLIN, GPS THAT instead of one google maps app. | 01:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | check for gps on bb10 store | 01:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | one or two native apps and others are shitty clones | 01:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | There are a few decent native options. | 01:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | You know what I've realized, though. | 01:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | Is that the Maemo-type communities have such high quality devs | 01:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | that software availability isn't a huge issue | 01:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: it is | 01:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | I mean, you miss Kindle/Kobo/Spotify/whatever | 01:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as Instagram comes not from maemo same as whatsapp | 01:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | But for non-proprietary stuff you get much better apps. | 01:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | all this android hype for those apps | 01:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | See things like sowatch on Harmattan. | 01:24 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Gaps will be filled on Jolla that'll never be filled on BB10. | 01:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: exactly that's why i'm telling THERE IS NO point in android, except just money and collect "hype users" instead of those who was loyal | 01:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: don't think so | 01:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, hype users still pay bills. :P | 01:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | harmattan has developers and support because of maemo | 01:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | people bought it coz of maemo | 01:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | if it would came without it wouldn't be the same | 01:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | they use it as shield | 01:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as well as jolla " yes we know as we were part .." both maemo and harmattan had poor support. if not community they would have nothing except idea. though maemo was awesome, but i remember those bugs when devs sent patches and they even didn't bother to apply them | 01:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | so maemo is all about community | 01:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | all those 4/5 steps | 01:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 01:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and than 5/6 | 01:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | they increased on both sides | 01:29 |
| ZogG_lap1op | promises and promises only | 01:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | Symbian managers undercutting them at every turn. | 01:29 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | but as you see less people went for meego and less are going for jolla | 01:30 |
| ZogG_lap1op | they can't use maemo name forever :) | 01:31 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jolla hasn't put much out there that's concrete | 01:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | I suspect a lot of people are in a holding pattern. | 01:33 |
| tehdely | i'm in the "waiting for them to open up pre-orders again" pattern | 01:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | /msg ZogG_lap1op This is a bit random. But I have an Israeli Experience question for you. | 01:36 |
| tehdely | i guess you could call that holding :) | 01:36 |
| tehdely | MS<>Nokia sealed the deal for me | 01:36 |
| tehdely | i was on the fence about whether to make the leap to a Lumia... | 01:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Oops | 01:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | tehdely, missed the first batch? | 01:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Windows Phone seems like a waste of time. | 01:37 |
| tehdely | didn't have money when the first batch went live | 01:37 |
| tehdely | i'm bummed because i'll never get my special Early Adopter jollla :> | 01:37 |
| tehdely | then again my n9 is such a timeless design, ppl still ask me about it all the time | 01:37 |
| tehdely | i don't imagine they'll have anything with american LTE bands in it for a while, though | 01:38 |
| tehdely | so maybe i shoudl wait longer | 01:38 |
| tehdely | it's tough... | 01:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Don't worry, nobody in the US will get a special early adopter one either. | 01:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | and I pre-ordered on day one. | 01:38 |
| tehdely | right. will americans even be allowed in the next batch? | 01:38 |
| tehdely | i have friends in finland who can order for me if necessary :) | 01:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | May be allowed in the first batch with direct orders | 01:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dunno | 01:49 |
| GeneralAntilles | One of the big problems with Jolla, lack of concrete info. | 01:49 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: what version do you have on BB10? | 02:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | btw my pin is 2abfac5d | 02:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | 10.1 something | 02:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Whatever AT&T has managed to push out. | 02:07 |
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