IRC log of #harmattan for Saturday, 2013-08-24

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teleshoesanyone know where the harmattan network manager gui lives?08:13
teleshoesconndlgs08:20
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Win7MacVenemo_, any progress on IRC chatter?14:39
Venemo_Win7Mac: in what regard?14:39
Win7Macso that it works with a bouncer14:42
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Morpog_Venemo_, or desktop UI? :D14:48
Venemo_well14:48
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Venemo_haven't had much time, but making some progress14:48
Venemo_current focus is on a new, Qt5 based UI14:48
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Morpog_sailfish or nemo?14:49
Venemo_and upgrading to a new version of communi (the irc library being used)14:49
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Venemo_Win7Mac: the bouncer problem will be eventually solved, yes14:49
Win7Macwe talked about it here: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-07-07.log.html#t2013-07-07T17:19:1214:49
Venemo_but I have not decided if I want to still support harmattan or not14:49
Morpog_most annoying thing is the missing stop autoscroll feature14:49
Venemo_Win7Mac: yes, I remember14:49
Win7Macand I posted here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1358960#post135896014:50
Venemo_Win7Mac: it's on my list, but as I said, I don't know if I want to update the harmattan version or not14:50
Win7Machm...14:51
Venemo_I _could_14:51
Venemo_just don't have too much free time14:51
Win7Macput it to store for some bucks14:51
Venemo_nah, I don't think this would make me any money, and I'm not doing it for the money14:52
Venemo_anyway14:54
Venemo_when the fix is done, I don't think it will be hard to add to the harmattan UI14:54
Venemo_but the thing is, harmattan is broken in so many ways14:54
Venemo_for example, I had a feature where it popped up the "connect to internet" dialog14:55
Venemo_using QNetworkSession API14:55
Venemo_but then I discovered that - for reasons unknown - it made it impossible to work on some 3G networks14:55
Venemo_the socket simply didn't connect...14:55
Venemo_so then I had to remove that feature14:55
Win7Machm, ask other devs?14:56
Venemo_this news is about a year old, or older14:56
Venemo_nobody knew the answer14:56
Win7Macanyway, new harmattan version would be highly appreciated14:58
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RzR<Venemo_> Win7Mac: it's on my list, but as I said, I don't know if I want to update the harmattan version or not15:08
RzRthe user base is on harmattan15:08
RzRnever forget this :)15:08
Venemo_heh, okay15:08
Venemo_you convinced me15:08
RzR:)15:08
Win7Mac:)15:08
RzRi wish we could make run harmattan on other system too15:08
RzRin chrooted env15:09
RzRor somewhere else15:09
Win7MacJolla Phone should run harmattan, no?15:09
Morpog_N9nope15:10
Morpog_N9no x15:10
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RzRthis is the problem15:10
RzRbecause i think this is doable15:10
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RzRalthrough jolla's SF will use wayland , so 50% will be useless15:11
Morpog_N9well xwayland could help someday15:12
RzRsomeday15:12
RzRwe're not that hurry after all15:12
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Win7Macregarding LED notifications - any hint for this situation?: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1368334#post136833415:27
Win7Mac>aegis-apt-get --reinstall duicontrolpanel-ledapplet<?15:29
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Venemo_RzR: Morpog_, Win7Mac: sailfish will be backwards compatible with harmattan apps17:07
RzRincluding nokia ones ?17:10
RzRi doubt17:10
bef0rdthey will probably need recompiling, so, I'd say, no17:11
RzRyes17:12
RzRnokia maps would me the feat i will miss most17:13
bef0rda chroot approach could work with the closed source apps17:15
Venemo_heh17:15
Venemo_why care17:15
Venemo_they probably already have a better mapping app17:15
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Morpog_Venemo_, how that? judging from nemo, you have to do a bit of porting to het qt-components-qt5 ready in your apps17:44
Morpog_Venemo_, have you missed the change from x to wayland and Qt4 to Qt5?17:44
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Venemo_Morpog_: no18:01
Venemo_Morpog_: I'm just saying what they said18:01
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Venemo_Morpog_: anyway, I don't really think it's an issue18:10
Venemo_good afternoon everyone! :)18:11
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ZogG_laptopthp: ping21:55
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RzRhttp://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=lesson22:03
mschlensThank god it's caturday.22:09
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DocScrutinizer05it's a pity how Nokia killed maemo, meego and harmattan, simply by doing wrong design decisions22:34
DocScrutinizer05and to me it seems jolla is killing sailfish now the same way22:35
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: i'm more worried about software/distro parts22:36
ZogG_laptopi don't like Wayland hype and systemd + zypper things :(22:37
DocScrutinizer05btw a friend of mine got a Lumia800 from me recently. She's not at all happy with the capacitive touchscreen and says she'd prefer a hw kbd like my N900 has. She never before used a smartphone and probably when she goes shopping a new phone, she would try to get a Nokia331022:39
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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: i wonder why there no resistence mltitouch screens :(23:15
ZogG_laptopthere is thechnology but not a mobiles with it23:16
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