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DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: finally rtlsdr works rather OKish for me, on my linux PC21:12
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SpeedEvilhmm21:13
* SpeedEvil is depressingly stalled on fun stuff. been struggling to maintain house and garden.21:13
DocScrutinizer05eeew21:14
DocScrutinizer05get one of those 10$ rtl28xx usb sticks, it's worth it21:14
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DocScrutinizer05and over at ##rtlsdr you can chat with users who use those sticks as well as gnu radio and *this*: http://www.sbrac.org21:17
teleshoesanyone have any ideas about the best way to set a user passwd after flashing without human intervention?21:18
teleshoesgoal is to be able to get ssh access without having to manually boot, devmode, reboot, terminal, devel-su, passwd user21:19
teleshoesi could automate installing a bootloader and stick a pubkey in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys21:20
teleshoesor perhaps theres something i could do to a kernel that would let me get access to bootstrap automatic installations21:21
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teleshoes{answer to what i want is obvious in retrospect, flash, load ubiboot kernel, get maintenance console, mount mmcblk0p2, stick pubkey}22:07
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Jonniteleshoes: you can just do one simple deb pacakge with your authorized_keys and add required depencies to that pull in ssh and devmode in one go, that way you can just flash, boot to massstorage, drop in the deb package and click it on ui.23:02
teleshoeswell, after ive got auth-keys in there, i can just automate doing everything from ssh23:03
teleshoesthe problem was just chicken-and-egg23:03
Jonnithat is if you want it to work in secure mode. For openmode you can script the whole thing, to flash, ramload kernel which autoexports drives to your linux which drops in ssh-keys23:04
teleshoesand now i can have my phone completely restored, soup to nuts, without ever touching it23:04
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teleshoesyup, thx, the latter is what i decided to do23:04
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Jonnior you can flash the device, and point the device over nfc tag which downloads you a custom deb pacakge that installs ssh keys and ssh.23:06
teleshoesheh, another clever soln23:06
teleshoesnot quite as automatic as id like, tho23:06
Jonnipersonally I made me a nfc tag which just installs all capa opensh to my device after refhash23:07
teleshoesi run openmode so i dont worry bout refhashlist too much23:07
teleshoesin general, i hate doing things with the phones builtin ui when i can just run it from my laptop23:08
Jonniwell refhashlist is still in play even on openmode, so you should worry about it23:08
teleshoesyea, not none at all, just not as much23:08
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a5t3r15m0hi people, is the default mail app of harmattan an opensource app?23:36
teleshoesno23:36
teleshoesits called fenix23:36
teleshoesand its horrid23:36
teleshoesAND theres nothing better23:36
a5t3r15m0nothing better than that email app?23:37
teleshoesthere are some reasonable email apps23:37
teleshoesbut no fully functional ones23:37
a5t3r15m0but opensource? im not interested in sharong23:39
teleshoessharong?23:39
a5t3r15m0sharing all my mail passwords with the nsa23:39
teleshoesoh sharing23:39
a5t3r15m0sorry, im on the phone rigth now23:39
teleshoesno worries23:39
teleshoesi thought sharong was an email app i hadnt heard of ;)23:39
teleshoesthere are tons of solns, none are especially viable23:40
teleshoesif usability is a top priority, youre stuck with fenix23:40
teleshoestheres another up-and-coming qt mail program23:40
teleshoeswhats it called23:40
teleshoeserr23:40
teleshoesstarts with a t23:40
teleshoestroy something!23:40
teleshoestrojita23:40
teleshoesthats it23:40
a5t3r15m0i had the hope that at least one email app with the avail of the opensource community23:41
teleshoesyoud think, right?!23:41
a5t3r15m0err and trojita23:41
teleshoesheh23:41
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a5t3r15m0trojita hangs up with my 30k message inbox23:41
teleshoesmm23:41
teleshoeslike i said, theres absolutely nothing good23:42
teleshoesfenix also hangs with huge inboxes23:42
teleshoesand it cant search23:42
teleshoescant edit text in replies23:42
teleshoescopy paste is buggy23:42
teleshoeshighlighting text is weird-23:42
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teleshoeswhen you touch it, itstarts highlighting23:43
teleshoesand you cant move the cursor23:43
a5t3r15m0yeah23:43
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teleshoesi wonder if anyone got claws working23:43
a5t3r15m0i use that app for my work account and thats fine23:43
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teleshoesclaws?23:43
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a5t3r15m0that account is already monitored23:44
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teleshoeswhat?23:44
a5t3r15m0by my empoloyers23:44
a5t3r15m0so23:44
teleshoesah23:44
teleshoesso no need to be paranoid23:44
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teleshoesits already hopeless23:44
a5t3r15m0but my personal account23:44
a5t3r15m0i use pgp and stuff23:44
teleshoescool deal23:45
teleshoesBUT youre probably outta luck on the n923:45
teleshoeshttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8322923:45
a5t3r15m0is there any other os that can be installed on the n9?23:46
teleshoesyes tons23:46
a5t3r15m0i mean, its a great phone23:47
a5t3r15m0which ones23:47
teleshoesprobably the most useful are mer and android23:47
teleshoesspecifically nemo23:48
a5t3r15m0mer?23:48
teleshoesmer is the successor to meego23:48
a5t3r15m0is there any mail app that supports pgp?23:49
teleshoesharmattan is, er, a fork of an early version of meego23:49
teleshoesno idea, but android will almost certainly have one23:49
teleshoeshttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9064623:50
a5t3r15m0but i read about a dual boot with android23:50
teleshoesive never done this and know nothing about it23:50
a5t3r15m0not a clean install23:50
teleshoesbut yea, you can dual boot with android23:50
teleshoeswhat?23:50
teleshoeswhat do you mean 'a clean install'?23:50
a5t3r15m0wipe up meego amd install something else23:51
teleshoesdidnt you just ask if there was another OS you could dual boot?23:51
teleshoessure, you could do that instead of dual booting if you wanted to23:51
teleshoesyou can {probably} configure your bootloader to do anything you like23:51
teleshoes{i imagine your main concern is not having to push a button at boot}23:52
a5t3r15m0but still have meego in it23:52
teleshoesyou can almost certainly erase it, but im confused as to why23:52
teleshoeswhy do you care if meego is still on it?23:53
a5t3r15m0i have a finite disk space and no sd card23:54
teleshoesahhh23:54
teleshoesyes23:54
teleshoesthat makes sense23:54
a5t3r15m0only 16gb23:54
teleshoesugh23:54
teleshoesyou can definitely nuke things if you really wanna23:54
teleshoesBUT i dont think youll find a full, satisfying user experience on android23:54
teleshoesprobably the best thing you can do until a good solution comes around is to use webmail through qmlmozbrowser23:55
teleshoesif you have a webmail client thats open enough for you to trust23:55
a5t3r15m0yeah23:56
teleshoesits also possible theres a soln i havent heard of23:56
teleshoesbut ive been looking for an email client for awhile now23:57
teleshoeshave you tried a bleeding edge trojita?23:57
teleshoesthey work on it constantly23:57
teleshoesi dunno if they even support pgp, or if they have recent harmattan builds23:57
a5t3r15m0i dunno either23:59
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