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| imunsie | An update on the discussion a couple of week's ago on my collegue's N9's "low power" lock screen displaying the clock in bright cyan instead of dim white | 10:14 |
| imunsie | He finally got around to using N9QT to change it to red, which worked | 10:15 |
| imunsie | So whatever the cause was, it's fixed now and he's happy | 10:15 |
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| ncik | do we have any new release of nemo upcoming? | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC | don't think so | 18:43 |
| Morpog_PC | it's a big mess atm :) | 18:43 |
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| Morpog_PC | conversion from x11 to wayland and Qt4 to Qt5 | 18:43 |
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| Lava_Croft | The Future! | 18:44 |
| Morpog_PC | and after that HW adaptions for N9(50) needs to be optimized | 18:44 |
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| ncik | that seema like a lot of work | 18:50 |
| ncik | lipstick not working for us anymore? | 18:51 |
| Morpog_PC | lipstick is ported to QT5 by Jolla | 18:51 |
| faenil | ncik, ? | 18:53 |
| ncik | i thought lipstick was a open ui on mer | 18:53 |
| faenil | it is | 18:53 |
| ncik | using nemo | 18:53 |
| Morpog_PC | it's just the system that drives the UI | 18:53 |
| Morpog_PC | Jolla uses lipstick too | 18:54 |
| faenil | lipstick is the library used by Nemo's opensource homescreen (lipstick-colorful-home-qt5) and Jolla's closedsource homescreen (lipstick-jolla-home-qt5) | 18:54 |
| ncik | so we have a ui ready.. the qt5 coversion is to use jolla apps? | 18:55 |
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| mime2013 | hi | 19:00 |
| ncik | what about a jolla port to n9 | 19:00 |
| ncik | isnt it the hardware they started testing on | 19:00 |
| mime2013 | can anyone plz xplain how to reinstall watsapp on nokia n9 | 19:00 |
| ncik | download the .deb from the wiki page and install it | 19:01 |
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| Morpog_PC | ncik, we have default UI ready, but thats just step 1, after that they start to port to Glacier UI. | 19:02 |
| Lava_Croft | ncik: I have only seen Holla run on the N950 | 19:02 |
| Lava_Croft | er Jolla, what | 19:02 |
| Morpog_PC | mime2013, just open the deb with file manager | 19:03 |
| Morpog_PC | be sure to use latest nightly version | 19:03 |
| Lava_Croft | shouldnt whatsapp starts to block the n9 soon | 19:03 |
| Lava_Croft | i thought i saw something on twitter about that | 19:03 |
| Morpog_PC | not yet here | 19:03 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe they stopped it due to our shitstorm? :) | 19:03 |
| mime2013 | ya it blocked it thats y its nt reinstalling | 19:04 |
| ncik | it blocked me for a day.. then it stopped | 19:04 |
| mime2013 | same here its saying old version | 19:04 |
| Morpog_PC | mime2013, thats bullshit, you can always reinstall it | 19:04 |
| Morpog_PC | are you using LATEST nightly version? | 19:04 |
| ncik | download the nightly 24 | 19:04 |
| Lava_Croft | Morpog_PC: i dont think the whatsapp folks care for any shitstorm of maemo users:) | 19:05 |
| Lava_Croft | why would they:) | 19:05 |
| Morpog_PC | well, if they don't care, why they do care to block us? | 19:05 |
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| Lava_Croft | you are using their servers, obviously | 19:05 |
| Lava_Croft | with a client they dont approve of | 19:05 |
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| Lava_Croft | no matter what you think of whatsapp, but thats pretty sane behaviour | 19:06 |
| mime2013 | cnt reinstall it. searching 4 anothr free chat for nokia n9. | 19:06 |
| Morpog_PC | not if they don't provide a client | 19:06 |
| Lava_Croft | why should they provide a client | 19:06 |
| Lava_Croft | its a waste of development money | 19:06 |
| Morpog_PC | mime2013, are you using nightly version? | 19:06 |
| mime2013 | watsapp cool bt they block it as soon as u use it 4long | 19:06 |
| Lava_Croft | they have to put a guy on it to make the client | 19:06 |
| Lava_Croft | make/port/maintain | 19:06 |
| mime2013 | wooh yaa .. | 19:06 |
| Lava_Croft | theres just no profit to be made for them | 19:06 |
| Morpog_PC | Lava_Croft, they already have BB version, easy port | 19:07 |
| Lava_Croft | it takes time, which means it takes money | 19:07 |
| mime2013 | infact here in mauritius its tough out here | 19:07 |
| Lava_Croft | whatsapp is just a regulat company | 19:07 |
| Lava_Croft | they want to make money, not please maemo people:) | 19:07 |
| ncik | they even paid the guy who made wazapp to port it to bb10 | 19:07 |
| Morpog_PC | there are millions of n9 users out there | 19:07 |
| Lava_Croft | most of them dont give a shit for whatsapp | 19:07 |
| mime2013 | ya many n9 users hvng same prblms | 19:08 |
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| Morpog_PC | no mime2013 it works fine here | 19:08 |
| Lava_Croft | whatsapp users are just a dumb, vocal minority | 19:08 |
| mime2013 | u thnk so | 19:08 |
| Morpog_PC | mime2013, you still haven't said which version you are trying to install. | 19:08 |
| Lava_Croft | so all their noise makes it look like its very important | 19:08 |
| ncik | lol.. | 19:08 |
| Lava_Croft | and like a lot of people care | 19:08 |
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| Lava_Croft | but honestly, whatsapp is for silly people | 19:09 |
| Lava_Croft | why not stick to MSN, lol | 19:09 |
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| Lava_Croft | i would just not care for whatsapp if they dont care to make a client/give you acess | 19:09 |
| ncik | my sister sends me her girls pics on it.. very useful for me.. ;) | 19:09 |
| mime2013 | yep srry latest version | 19:09 |
| Morpog_PC | :) | 19:09 |
| Lava_Croft | tell her to use one of the other 10000000000 options:) | 19:09 |
| Morpog_PC | tell us which version EXACTLY | 19:09 |
| mime2013 | cnt react without it | 19:10 |
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| Lava_Croft | i dont get why the whatsapp folks dont just use fb chat | 19:11 |
| Lava_Croft | its basically the same | 19:11 |
| ncik | no file transfer | 19:11 |
| Lava_Croft | ah | 19:11 |
| Lava_Croft | thats what you use whats app for... :D | 19:11 |
| Lava_Croft | now i get the remark about the pics:) | 19:12 |
| Lava_Croft | use email, lol | 19:12 |
| ncik | yep.. that is all.. :) | 19:12 |
| Lava_Croft | email is free | 19:12 |
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| Morpog_PC | that mime2013 guy was strange | 19:13 |
| ncik | its whatsapp for now.. soon it will be another silly app.. | 19:13 |
| Lava_Croft | isnt whatsapp just xmpp | 19:13 |
| Morpog_PC | yep and it was a while icq and a while MSN | 19:13 |
| ncik | not really | 19:13 |
| Lava_Croft | ah yes, customized xmpp | 19:13 |
| Lava_Croft | at least facebook keeps it 'open' | 19:13 |
| Lava_Croft | so i can connect to it from bitlbee orso | 19:14 |
| Lava_Croft | or any xmpp client | 19:14 |
| ncik | nope.. :P | 19:14 |
| Lava_Croft | whatsapp is customized xmpp protocol:) | 19:14 |
| Lava_Croft | i bet the only customization they did was to take care of their monetization | 19:15 |
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| ncik | what else.. i hope we have a better more open app.. i wish i could make one | 19:18 |
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| Lava_Croft | h | 19:36 |
| Lava_Croft | oh | 19:36 |
| Lava_Croft | whatsapp file transfer basically means upload to their server and send http link to reciever | 19:37 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 19:37 |
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| ncik | cant we have a piratebay like app then.. :) | 19:40 |
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| teleshoes | does anyone use a mail client on the n9 that isnt fenix? | 20:54 |
| teleshoes | i would really like to use something that can persist my accounts across flashing, as i have too many to manually set up | 20:56 |
| ncik | people have scripts if you care enough to browse through maemo.org | 20:58 |
| teleshoes | oh? | 20:58 |
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| teleshoes | i havent seen the thing youre talking about | 20:58 |
| teleshoes | can you tell me more? | 20:58 |
| ncik | the next thing would be to get you the link from talk.maemo.org | 20:59 |
| ncik | :) | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | i mean, im searching the forums, but im not precisely sure what you mean | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | scripts for saving the accounts in fenix? | 20:59 |
| ncik | i dont remember exactly. its something to do with open mode kernel | 20:59 |
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| teleshoes | scripts for doing mail manually? | 20:59 |
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| teleshoes | yea, you mean removing all the aegis mount points | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | it doesnt actually work for me | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | im not sure it works for anybody | 21:00 |
| ncik | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1327048 | 21:02 |
| ncik | go through the thread | 21:02 |
| ncik | it works for me bud. ;) | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | heh, my comment is the last thing anyone said on that thread | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | so, let me ask to make sure- | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | you copy the accounts db off of your phone to your laptop | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | then reflash the firmware and emmc | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | then flash an open kernel | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | then remove the aegis mountpoints with that script thedead summarized | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | then you copy it back | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | and reboot | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | and your accounts work? | 21:03 |
| ncik | sounds about right. i havent tried it though.. | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | oh | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | i did, and it didnt work | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | i found it DOES work if you dont reflash | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | if youre just going from closed=>open | 21:05 |
| ncik | have you tried backing up using nokia pc suite or link? | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | as i said in that forum: | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | accounts-restore is a shell script which removes the accounts db and replaces it with accounts.db.bak; if this doesnt exist, accounts-restore simply removes your accounts db. | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | thats literally the same thing im doing | 21:06 |
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| teleshoes | but yes, ive tried using the nokia closed source account-backup/restore | 21:07 |
| ncik | interesting.. | 21:09 |
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| teleshoes | {it also could be the case that my custom restore scripts fuck something up that seems unrelated but causes the problem} | 21:10 |
| teleshoes | but ive just never heard of anyone actually saying that this works for them | 21:10 |
| teleshoes | so i suspect it just doesnt work | 21:10 |
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| teleshoes | im also interested in divorcing myself from as many closed-source shitty nokia apps as possible | 21:11 |
| teleshoes | i recently killed off drive in favor of navit+waze | 21:12 |
| ncik | tell me when you could change the ui.. ;) | 21:12 |
| ncik | and the feed | 21:12 |
| teleshoes | heh, 'as many as possible' | 21:12 |
| teleshoes | mthome is not one such possible app | 21:13 |
| ncik | have you tried restoring the file manually instead of using a script? | 21:13 |
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| teleshoes | urm, what does manually mean? | 21:13 |
| teleshoes | in the end, a computer has to do it | 21:14 |
| teleshoes | so im going to be running commands and the same things gonna happen, regardless of whether i have a tty in | 21:14 |
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| teleshoes | if you mean, 'am i sure i restored it and with correct perms?', then yes, md5sum and ls confirms | 21:14 |
| ncik | i mean since you said it could be a problem with the script | 21:15 |
| teleshoes | ah i see what you mean | 21:15 |
| teleshoes | i could try a reflash JUST to test this | 21:15 |
| teleshoes | and only run the bits of my restore that setup ssh keys | 21:16 |
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| teleshoes | yea, i guess i should try and minimize the things i do first | 21:17 |
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| ncik | you are keen on it.. i dont like reflashing my phone | 21:17 |
| ncik | takes too long | 21:17 |
| teleshoes | well, im only keen on it because of my restore system | 21:17 |
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| teleshoes | i plug my phone in, flash it, turn on developer mode, run passwd | 21:17 |
| teleshoes | then i start my restore script | 21:17 |
| teleshoes | et voila | 21:17 |
| ncik | i can test the script tomorrow only.. its midnight here | 21:18 |
| teleshoes | all my packages installed, all my pictures/music, my launcher buttons neatly organized | 21:18 |
| teleshoes | :D | 21:18 |
| ncik | hah.. | 21:18 |
| ncik | try make an app out of it. | 21:18 |
| teleshoes | eh, the important thing for me is that its human readable | 21:19 |
| teleshoes | i have a file which controls the ordering of my launcher-buttons | 21:19 |
| teleshoes | that lives in a git repo on my computer | 21:19 |
| teleshoes | the process i use isnt for everyone | 21:19 |
| teleshoes | its more like a discipline- never change any settings with the gui, figure out how to change them programmatically and store the changes in a repo | 21:20 |
| ncik | not fair man.. its supposed to be open.. you can add it to coderus's open repo | 21:20 |
| teleshoes | i mean, the git repo is on github! | 21:20 |
| teleshoes | its all gplv3 | 21:20 |
| ncik | ahh.. ok | 21:21 |
| teleshoes | https://github.com/teleshoes/n9-config | 21:21 |
| teleshoes | its just not really package-able | 21:21 |
| teleshoes | bits and pieces of it may be useful, like my launcher-buttons script | 21:22 |
| teleshoes | https://github.com/teleshoes/n9-config/blob/master/launcher-buttons | 21:22 |
| ncik | lets make it work first then we can try.. i really hate restoring the contacts | 21:22 |
| teleshoes | heh, thats also automated for me | 21:22 |
| teleshoes | and sms and call log | 21:22 |
| teleshoes | i back up both nightly over wifi | 21:22 |
| ncik | thats not that important but still good. does it also back up the app debsl | 21:22 |
| ncik | debs* | 21:23 |
| teleshoes | well sort of | 21:23 |
| teleshoes | i reverse that idea and store the custom debs in my repo | 21:23 |
| teleshoes | i never install anything on the phone itself | 21:23 |
| teleshoes | i add the package name to my install script | 21:23 |
| teleshoes | and run that | 21:23 |
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| teleshoes | if a deb isnt in a repo, i stick it in mine | 21:24 |
| ncik | hah.. wow | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | i have had an n9 get stolen | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | what did i lose? | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | $250 and one text message | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | the previous days call logs, pictures, all my app configs like double-tap-to-unlock and my firefox bookmarks | 21:26 |
| teleshoes | all safe and sound | 21:26 |
| teleshoes | {i was still pretty sad} | 21:26 |
| teleshoes | {but imagine how much worse if i had lost my pictures and my texts, and then had to reconfigure from scratch?} | 21:27 |
| ncik | its always a bummer | 21:27 |
| teleshoes | hah yea | 21:27 |
| teleshoes | then 4 months later | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | a hurricane destroyed everything i own | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | and i had to buy YET ANOTHER | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | n9 | 21:28 |
| bef0rd | seems like n9 gives you bad luck | 21:28 |
| ncik | dude.. you are like a bad luck magnet | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | noooo | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | ....yea... | 21:29 |
| ncik | but your idea is brilliant.. do you use ubiboot? | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | no i should tho | 21:30 |
| ncik | makes booting up a bit slower | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | oh then i shouldnt | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | i dont need multiple OSes, and im comfortable flashing the recovery n950 kernel | 21:31 |
| ncik | its no use unless you use nemo/android etc.. | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | which i had to do on the phone that drowned in seawater | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | i install nemo from time to time | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | just to see whats up | 21:31 |
| ncik | yeah me too.. but then you can do it without ubiboot | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | yea | 21:32 |
| teleshoes | if i used android for something {cant imagine what} id do that | 21:32 |
| teleshoes | hmm, does android actually have anything? | 21:32 |
| teleshoes | srsly, i mean | 21:32 |
| bef0rd | i use it to check android apps | 21:33 |
| bef0rd | nothing more | 21:33 |
| teleshoes | mm | 21:33 |
| teleshoes | yea, jolla will be nifty for that | 21:33 |
| bef0rd | I don't really have use/need any android app, but like to test some of them from time to time, since I don't have an android phone, nitdroid just works for that | 21:34 |
| teleshoes | yea, i can imagine that being useful, like for testing a multi-platform app youre develing | 21:35 |
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| teleshoes | WHOA worked | 23:04 |
| teleshoes | it WAS me | 23:05 |
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