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| teleshoes | hey i need a firmware pr1.3 > 006 | 20:55 |
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| teleshoes | >= | 20:55 |
| teleshoes | anyone know where i could grab one? | 20:55 |
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| Lava_Croft | teleshoes: http://skeiron.org/firmware/N9/40.2012.21.3/ | 20:58 |
| teleshoes | hey man thx | 20:58 |
| teleshoes | uhh | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | they dont have the version strings in em | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | so i cant tell which to dl | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | look at your SIM door | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | i dont wanna install the localized fw | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | you want worldwide? | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | yea | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | you want 001 then | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | but its already localized on pr1.3 | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | cant do it | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | aaah | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | it came 'new' | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | >_< | 20:59 |
| teleshoes | but with 006 pr1.3 | 20:59 |
| Lava_Croft | bleh | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | yea, theyre dicks | 21:00 |
| Lava_Croft | i think its still not possible to go from 006 to 001, yeah :\ | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | course not | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | i think i remember someone having this problem | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | and finding an 009 | 21:00 |
| Lava_Croft | quite a few folks have had it | 21:00 |
| teleshoes | that was worldwide-ish | 21:00 |
| Lava_Croft | but yeah, these archives arent named handy in that regard | 21:01 |
| teleshoes | mm | 21:01 |
| Lava_Croft | you could try to find out which region 006 is | 21:01 |
| teleshoes | its uk | 21:01 |
| Lava_Croft | http://skeiron.org/firmware/N9/40.2012.21.3/059J186_RM-696%20NDT%20UK%20IRELAND%20BLACK%2064GB.tar.gz | 21:01 |
| Lava_Croft | uk ireland | 21:01 |
| teleshoes | yea | 21:01 |
| teleshoes | but i dont wanna | 21:01 |
| Lava_Croft | why not? | 21:01 |
| teleshoes | i want a worldwide-ish fw | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | but why | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | apart from maybe 'gut feeling' | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | its mostly that | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | but its also the maps | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | and stuff | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | nokia maps? | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | oh wait, thats in the emmc img | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | right | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | you can just download the maps from within the Maps app | 21:02 |
| Lava_Croft | the 001 emmc image comes without maps | 21:02 |
| teleshoes | yea, the country-specific emmc images have pre-dl maps | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | yea | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | i forgot i could still use 001 emmc | 21:03 |
| Lava_Croft | maps got updated recently too | 21:03 |
| Lava_Croft | the maps themselves | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | oh? | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | cool | 21:03 |
| teleshoes | didnt know | 21:03 |
| Lava_Croft | but for more technical stuff concerning what to flash and what would be best to flash, i cant help you | 21:03 |
| Lava_Croft | i would be content with a UK image, cant be THAT bad:) | 21:04 |
| teleshoes | thx anyway | 21:04 |
| Lava_Croft | no prob | 21:04 |
| teleshoes | yea, and at least it wont lock me in any further | 21:04 |
| Lava_Croft | aye | 21:04 |
| teleshoes | unlike trying out an 009 | 21:04 |
| Lava_Croft | indeed | 21:04 |
| teleshoes | oh wow skeiron's fast | 21:04 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 21:04 |
| teleshoes | 52mbps right now | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | It's a godly lifesaver of a mirror | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | yea | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | there are a few personal repos im still missing | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | like martinks | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | there is openrepos these days | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | people might have moved there | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | http://openrepos.net/ | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | yea ive been meaning to check that out | 21:05 |
| teleshoes | some really cool ideas floating around over there | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | me too, but it wants you to make each user a seperate 'repo' | 21:05 |
| Lava_Croft | which is completely 'out there' | 21:06 |
| Lava_Croft | to put it mildly | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | oh is it? | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | that sounds reasonable to me | 21:06 |
| Lava_Croft | i rather have all shit in one big repo | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | well, that doesnt make sense | 21:06 |
| Lava_Croft | its easier for me | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | i mean, package dependencies would be impossible to manage | 21:06 |
| teleshoes | yea, but your safety is decreased | 21:06 |
| Lava_Croft | yup | 21:07 |
| teleshoes | i mean safety from unstable packages | 21:07 |
| teleshoes | if each is in its own little bubble | 21:07 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah, but this is maemo we are talking about, not android | 21:07 |
| Lava_Croft | i know its a saner solution right now | 21:07 |
| Lava_Croft | but im a lazy dumb end user! | 21:07 |
| teleshoes | heh, package repos are not the most user-friendly thing | 21:07 |
| teleshoes | really, tho, the soln | 21:08 |
| teleshoes | is to just make finding and adding repos easy | 21:08 |
| teleshoes | you wanna install AppX, you should be able to do a repo lookup and auto-add from your phone | 21:08 |
| Lava_Croft | its a no-brainer to add a button to a website that adds a repo | 21:09 |
| teleshoes | well, assuming your app has root privs | 21:09 |
| teleshoes | then yea | 21:09 |
| teleshoes | but someone needs to write the on-phone client first | 21:09 |
| teleshoes | meanwhile, users that prefer to manage their repositories, making it so that some stay frozen how the developer had it, and some get updated weekly, or daily, etc | 21:10 |
| teleshoes | can do that | 21:10 |
| Lava_Croft | the maemo5 system of -devel -testing and extras is lovely | 21:10 |
| Lava_Croft | (if it works) | 21:10 |
| teleshoes | and dont have to worry about new dev work breaking their stable system by interacting with other repos they dont know | 21:10 |
| teleshoes | yea, but thats a collab effort with a centralized official body | 21:11 |
| Lava_Croft | well, devices like maemo devices will always break in the hands of certain users | 21:11 |
| teleshoes | doing package resolution and qa | 21:11 |
| teleshoes | mm | 21:11 |
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| teleshoes | ugh that DL has 001 in it | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | whoopsy | 21:25 |
| teleshoes | ugh, 006 is middle east, someone flashed the wrong image | 21:29 |
| teleshoes | new my ass | 21:29 |
| teleshoes | honestly looks new tho | 21:29 |
| Lava_Croft | what | 21:30 |
| Lava_Croft | oh no | 21:30 |
| Lava_Croft | that sucks | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | i wonder how come the default lang wasnt arabic | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | theres no sim card in it | 21:31 |
| Lava_Croft | maybe it wasnt as new as you thought | 21:32 |
| Lava_Croft | and he already poked at the settings? | 21:32 |
| teleshoes | yea, and then re-flashed the fw to make it so it looked like fresh boot | 21:32 |
| teleshoes | is there any way to look at battery cycle count/ | 21:33 |
| teleshoes | aint in bmestat | 21:33 |
| teleshoes | last full capacity is 1400 | 21:34 |
| teleshoes | so probably been poked around for a few hours, or had the battery replaced | 21:34 |
| teleshoes | s'ok i guess | 21:34 |
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| RzR | priviet e-yes_ | 21:59 |
| RzR | so what are you though on ubuntu phone ? | 22:00 |
| RzR | and http://mynokiablog.com/2012/07/20/video-firefox-os-b2g-running-on-nokia-n9/ | 22:00 |
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| teleshoes | {isnt ubuntu phone basically android, with a custom skin and a VM 'app' thats not quite ready?} | 22:02 |
| RzR | yes somehow that was i ask this to our android guru e-yes_ | 22:02 |
| teleshoes | {honestly asking, hoping it wasnt true} | 22:03 |
| Lava_Croft | ubuntified android | 22:03 |
| teleshoes | i dunno where to find reliable reports about it | 22:04 |
| teleshoes | i used to be an ubuntu man until canonical went all NIH | 22:05 |
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| Lava_Croft | it doesnt really arouse me in any way | 22:05 |
| Lava_Croft | their device is also ugly | 22:05 |
| teleshoes | heh, i think its nicer looking than jolla | 22:05 |
| Lava_Croft | i mean, n900 isnt a beauty, but it doesnt annoy me | 22:06 |
| teleshoes | jolla phones look like andies candies | 22:06 |
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| teleshoes | which are delicious! | 22:06 |
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| Lava_Croft | black cover and done | 22:06 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 22:06 |
| Lava_Croft | i like their design, love the modular look | 22:07 |
| teleshoes | => weird and gimmicky, imo | 22:07 |
| Lava_Croft | its not N9 though... | 22:07 |
| e-yes_ | RzR, salut | 22:07 |
| Lava_Croft | for now its gimmicky, yes | 22:07 |
| Lava_Croft | the future will have to prove them wrong about the other half | 22:07 |
| Lava_Croft | we right | 22:08 |
| teleshoes | what else could it be in future? | 22:08 |
| Lava_Croft | err | 22:08 |
| Lava_Croft | i mean right, not wrong | 22:08 |
| Lava_Croft | well, they might be able to do more than coloured covers | 22:08 |
| Lava_Croft | i and probably every other maemo user just wants a hardware keyboard:P | 22:09 |
| teleshoes | what, stick rfids in them and use them as unlock codes for non-libre software? | 22:09 |
| teleshoes | uhhh | 22:09 |
| e-yes_ | RzR, yes, there is a port of FF OS to N9 | 22:09 |
| teleshoes | {b2g was mostly unusable last i tried it} | 22:09 |
| teleshoes | {but considerable progress in short time} | 22:09 |
| teleshoes | jolla phone doesnt have a hw keyboard | 22:10 |
| teleshoes | having a removable back cover does not suggest that it ever will | 22:10 |
| Lava_Croft | hence the might | 22:15 |
| teleshoes | i dont follow, its just a piece of plastic | 22:15 |
| teleshoes | anyone could already make a good keyboard case | 22:15 |
| teleshoes | if they felt like it | 22:15 |
| Lava_Croft | except its market would be small | 22:16 |
| teleshoes | this wouldve been true with or without the super-special removable back cover | 22:16 |
| teleshoes | oh good point | 22:16 |
| Lava_Croft | so its not a wise choice | 22:16 |
| teleshoes | but jolla could ALSO have made its own in-house kb case | 22:16 |
| Lava_Croft | at least not for jolla, with their intentions | 22:16 |
| teleshoes | with or without the super-special removable back cover | 22:16 |
| Lava_Croft | they still *might* | 22:16 |
| Lava_Croft | but its a small company | 22:16 |
| Lava_Croft | its not nokia | 22:17 |
| teleshoes | my point is merely that the Other Half is completely unrelated to keyboards | 22:17 |
| teleshoes | although it may be relevant to a kb-case's marketing campaign | 22:17 |
| Lava_Croft | its completely relevant | 22:19 |
| Lava_Croft | the other half is kind of meant as an invitation to think a bit outside of the box | 22:19 |
| Lava_Croft | this is their 'first' implementation of their other half idea | 22:20 |
| teleshoes | meh ok | 22:20 |
| Lava_Croft | they just dont have the size/power/money/muscle to do more than this atm | 22:20 |
| Lava_Croft | its already quite a feat that they have this device incoming, given their short timeframe | 22:20 |
| Lava_Croft | they work faster than nokia:) | 22:20 |
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| teleshoes | they have mer and everyone else who ever worked on meego | 22:21 |
| Lava_Croft | and im a sucker for maemo folk, a lot of the jolla people come from maemo/meego | 22:21 |
| teleshoes | and basically are everyone important from nokia | 22:21 |
| Lava_Croft | these are good folk, not PR bastards | 22:21 |
| Lava_Croft | yup | 22:21 |
| Lava_Croft | basically, they have my trust | 22:21 |
| Lava_Croft | its worth nothing and could easily be proven wrong, of course:) | 22:22 |
| teleshoes | well, they dont quite have my trust | 22:22 |
| Lava_Croft | ive already been burned with 2 maemo devices | 22:22 |
| teleshoes | but they certainly have my money | 22:22 |
| Lava_Croft | third time's a charm, right | 22:22 |
| teleshoes | and will be receiving more of it any time they ask | 22:22 |
| Lava_Croft | so i hope this time i buy a maemo device that actually dies before its official support is ended | 22:22 |
| Lava_Croft | maemo/meego whatever | 22:22 |
| teleshoes | official shmofficial | 22:23 |
| Lava_Croft | my n900 went EOL before its 2y warranty ended | 22:23 |
| teleshoes | my n900 is still a champ | 22:23 |
| Lava_Croft | yup | 22:23 |
| teleshoes | love that thing to pieces | 22:23 |
| Lava_Croft | the n9's gathering dust again:< | 22:23 |
| teleshoes | like everyone else | 22:23 |
| teleshoes | n9 is so pretty | 22:23 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 22:23 |
| teleshoes | plus n900 is rilly slo | 22:24 |
| Lava_Croft | running at 850mhz, its doable | 22:24 |
| Lava_Croft | worse is the fact that the world and its websites and apis change | 22:24 |
| teleshoes | i think i ran mine at 950 | 22:24 |
| teleshoes | with cssu and maemo community | 22:24 |
| Lava_Croft | and n900 hw dies | 22:24 |
| teleshoes | its like the single best supported device on the planet | 22:24 |
| Lava_Croft | parts run out:\ | 22:25 |
| teleshoes | tru dat | 22:25 |
| teleshoes | just solder the usb port proactively | 22:25 |
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| Lava_Croft | mine's fine | 22:25 |
| teleshoes | oh it wont be | 22:25 |
| Lava_Croft | i've never had trouble with any of the 3 n900's i had | 22:25 |
| Lava_Croft | it still is after all these years | 22:26 |
| teleshoes | lucky | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | its pretty firmly attached | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | probably | 22:26 |
| teleshoes | i waited until after it broke to fix it | 22:26 |
| teleshoes | was v. unpleasant | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i did another, easier thing | 22:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i removed all the 'teeth' from usb cables | 22:27 |
| teleshoes | yea, thats also an option, | 22:27 |
| teleshoes | but then when youre tethered on the train | 22:27 |
| teleshoes | or charging at night and check the time | 22:27 |
| teleshoes | blahblahblah | 22:27 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 22:27 |
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| teleshoes | between wifi, removable scud batteries, and bl-5j desktop chargers, you never actually need to plug it in | 22:28 |
| Lava_Croft | DT-33 desktop charger is lovely | 22:28 |
| Lava_Croft | batteries i use polarcell, 1500+mah | 22:28 |
| teleshoes | yea, i just ordered two of them | 22:28 |
| teleshoes | not two hours ago | 22:28 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 22:28 |
| teleshoes | my scuds are tired | 22:28 |
| teleshoes | i was hoping to get two more of them, but they seem to have disappeared | 22:29 |
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| teleshoes | hey anyone know where qmlmozbrowser got to? | 23:08 |
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| teleshoes | oh openrepos, cool | 23:10 |
| RzR | is it usable ? | 23:13 |
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