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chilenoyo åssen språk går det på her ? engelsk ?09:44
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chilenowhaz cracking peeps ?09:45
bluefoxit is indeed a mostly english speaking channel09:45
chilenonice09:47
chilenoso how u doing ?09:47
bluefoxfine thanks09:47
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chilenocool09:48
chilenowhere u from09:48
bluefoxcurrently residing in the US09:49
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chilenookok09:49
chilenowho whanna chat09:51
chileno?09:51
bluefoxunfortunately not the busiest channel this time of day09:51
chilenoi see09:53
chilenou have one other channel 2 recomend09:53
chileno?09:53
bluefoxwish i did, but this is the only IRC channel i'm in at the moment as not too many other places that can answer questions about a nokia n950 for example09:54
chilenoi see09:54
chilenoi am board09:55
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pabluefox, you got an n950?10:44
bluefoxyes, i have an n9 and n95010:45
pacool10:45
pawon it, or given before ?10:45
bluefoxunfortunately purchased10:45
paaha...10:46
paexpensive.. :)10:46
pahow comes you bought one?10:46
padid you particularly need it?10:46
bluefoxpaid $700, so i think i did alright10:46
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bluefoxcan't say i desperately needed it...bit of an impulse buy since an opportunity presented itself10:47
bluefoxalways wanted one and the n9 made me miss having a proper keyboard since the n900 spoiled me in that regard10:48
pai see10:48
pai must admit i dont love n950 keyboard10:48
pathe keyboard on my old htc tytnII felt much better10:48
paeven tho i never really used that phone10:48
bluefoxi had one of those10:49
pa(almost)unusable due to its slowness10:49
pabut the keyboard was good10:49
bluefoxthough i think the keyboard on the touch pro 2 was better in every way10:49
bluefoxbut that was 2 years later10:49
bluefoxkeyboard on the n950 isn't perfect, but what phone has a keyboard these days?10:50
pa:)10:50
patrue10:50
bluefoxswype is a good substitute unless you're not having a conversation with someone10:51
deramswype would be good, if it worked correctly with terminal and was able to select swype or regular keyboard depending on application currently active10:56
bluefoxwell, you can always have swype and the regular keyboard and just switch between them in say terminal10:57
bluefoxpretty easy to switch between the two10:57
bluefox(or more if you are using multiple languages/input types)10:58
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derambluefox: yep... except the swype doesn't always want to go away on my device for some reason.11:07
bluefoxi've noted that too...half the time it thinks i'm trying to type instead of switching inputs11:08
payes swype on n9 is sligthly buggy11:09
padoesnt swipe down11:10
bluefoxthat too11:10
pahardly swypes sidewise11:10
paand doesnt remember the language for the specific application/contact11:10
bluefoxah, i only use english so i haven't run into that one11:10
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pawkyI have been using swipe since I bought the unit, and hasn't had any particular problems with it11:52
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pawkyexcept for the risk of the keyboar switching when starting with a character close to the edges12:01
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Hurrianoh my fucking gawd14:39
Hurrianmoved /home works14:39
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Hurrianfucking A.14:39
HurrianTime to expand my MyDocs partition.14:39
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HurrianSorry for the profanity, I was in an adrenaline rush.14:41
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* dm8tbr lets it slide, this one time ;)14:49
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MohammadAGHurrian, hmm? moved?14:57
HurrianMohammadAG, copied /home to /homenew, set up bindmounts in fstab in case some retarded bootscript called "mount /home", rebooted and prayed.14:58
HurrianNow I can get to expanding space of mmcblk0p1, or reusing mmcblk0p3 entirely.14:58
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pano pptp vpn client for harmattan, right?18:08
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dm8tbrpa: there is tun/tap IIRC, so it would just miss the userspace18:30
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payou mean the pptp binary itself18:50
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heymasterHad Android installed. But don't know if it's root of problem. Was not possible to charge N9. Some how managed to charge N9 with flasher, reflashed and now works everything.23:22
DocScrutinizer05heymaster: well, N9 HARM still has BME23:24
DocScrutinizer05I guess N9 Android hasn't23:24
DocScrutinizer05and yes, flasher charging is via NOLO23:24
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if he's been first to suggest charging option in NOLO23:25
heymasterwhat is NOLO ?23:26
DocScrutinizer05NOkia bootLOader23:26
DocScrutinizer05your phone's BIOS basically23:26
heymasterso with open kernel no NOLO ?23:26
DocScrutinizer05nah, NOLO is mandatory23:26
DocScrutinizer05device won't boot without NOLO23:27
virtualdnokia only lives once23:27
heymasteryes :)23:27
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DocScrutinizer05hehe23:27
heymasterDocScrutinizer05: but why phone won't charged ?23:27
DocScrutinizer05because BME is managing charging in normal OS. Android probably is missing BME23:28
DocScrutinizer05ergo: no charging23:28
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heymasterand BME means what ?23:29
heymasterBME (battery management entity)23:30
DocScrutinizer05~bme23:30
infoboti heard bme is http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME23:30
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heymasterDocScrutinizer05: don't know but i think charging is made in hw. I read the page it's says about kernel driver (BME)23:34
heymasteryou connect current and it charges :)23:35
DocScrutinizer05the detail about kernel driver is actually incorrect23:35
DocScrutinizer05and charging in N9 is very similar to charging in N900, both use a bq2415x chip that can do *some* autonomous charging, but only to a level where device can boot23:36
heymasterah, ok23:37
DocScrutinizer05from there (~3.6V) to full (4.2V) it needs sw-support23:37
DocScrutinizer05flashing however is not allowed under sth like 3.9...4.0V23:37
DocScrutinizer05that's why N9 has NOLO charging mode23:38
heymasterso NOLO is 4.2V ?23:38
DocScrutinizer05since on N900 you can end in a deadlock when your rootfs is borked and no BME, and battery too empty to reflash23:38
DocScrutinizer05yep, NOLO will charge to 100% in charging mode23:38
heymasterok. not it clear :)23:39
DocScrutinizer05it does the bq2415x sw support23:39
heymasternow*23:39
heymasterit's nice chip because this chip has documentation :)23:40
heymasternot like china ones :)23:40
heymasterand this chip looks communicating with usb. i really don't like USB because difficult protocol :)23:48
heymasteron raspberry pi seems all devices connected with usb. if you need to get with network card you need to have USB implementation if you do own simple OS (just for fun)23:50
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