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| Creteil | hi all | 00:23 |
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| Creteil | I have buy a N9 black 64GB to my gf, I have exactly same upgrade as mine, however there is a strange behavior ... | 00:24 |
| Creteil | In settings -> Security -> device lock she didn't have same options as mine for 'autolock' and 'numbers of try' | 00:26 |
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| Creteil | moreover for the 'numbers of try' option she have only the choice '5', where on mine I have '10' '20' '50' and 'Unlimited' | 00:28 |
| Creteil | maybe reinstalling the package corresponding to this part can fix the problem, but how to find the package name ? | 00:29 |
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| jonni | Creteil: if your gf has work mfe, it can force the security settings, like numbers of try. | 00:58 |
| Creteil | jonni : TRUE !!! I have installed last week mfe account for is work ... | 00:59 |
| Creteil | damn ... | 01:00 |
| jonni | (in which case re-enabling the settings requires a bit trickery, using exploited capas etc) | 01:00 |
| Creteil | is there a way to disable this behavior ? | 01:00 |
| jonni | Creteil: well there is a way, I've hacked my N9 to ignore mfe provisioning messages. But I haven't seen that hack beeing released in anywhere public, so currently there is no public way to disable it. | 01:01 |
| Creteil | jonni, I mean is there a way to leave the mfe account configured on is device but to have all options for the security option panel ? | 01:02 |
| Creteil | jonni, is it hard to apply your hack ? | 01:02 |
| jonni | Creteil: that depends how on the company who has set the restrictions, she could ask his IT admins to change policy, but I bet that its there intentionally., | 01:03 |
| Creteil | jonni, any chances you explain how you hacked your N9 to ignore mfe provisioning messages ? | 01:04 |
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| jonni | Creteil: hard, it requires patching system binaries, like devicelockd, wiping out mfe provisioning messages from aegis filesystem etc, so most likely its very hard to follow my steps unless you know the system really well. | 01:05 |
| jonni | easier solution is just to reflash the device, and not use mfe. | 01:06 |
| jonni | and if mfe is required, then just live with the stricter limitations. | 01:06 |
| Creteil | jonni, I have already managed to patch system file and put new signature of the patched file ... | 01:07 |
| Creteil | jonni, for example to increase the emoticons size since I don't use open kernel ... | 01:08 |
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| Kleggas | Morning (or evening, depending on where you are). Would someone be up for testing a n9 app I wrote?. I am mostly after someone who has not developed anything in python for n9 and therefor not having pyside installed, to see if I cought all dependencies I want/need, as my phone is kind of cluttered with python stuff. Install, start - report back if work or not. If someone got time :) | 10:19 |
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| mgedmin | what does the app do, Kleggas? | 10:25 |
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| Kleggas | mgedmin: its a client for a trading network | 10:29 |
| Kleggas | mgedmin: to buy and sell stuff. the things I want to test is with it is mainly that it installs on a phone I have not touched, and starts up etc | 10:30 |
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| Kleggas | I have uninstalled the dependencies I think I need and they all installed when I installed the app, but I want to make sure there is not something else I put on my phone that I forgot to depend on, and therefor forgot to uninstall | 10:33 |
| Kleggas | would make it not work then on other phones | 10:33 |
| mgedmin | eh, my n950 is at home | 10:33 |
| mgedmin | and I think I've already got python on it | 10:34 |
| Kleggas | :) | 10:34 |
| Kleggas | well, would be good to teest on n950 also though, or any phone that already got python, but best would be a kind of "basic" installed phone :) | 10:35 |
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| Kleggas | Oh the time flies by. Perhaps someone joined that want to try an app for n9? :) I am looking for someone (1 or more) who want to try my package. Install - run - report back, to see that it installs OK not just on my device. If you keep it, remove it, or anything doesn't matter. it connects to a test-server anyway atm. Let me know :) | 14:30 |
| valdur55 | Kleggas, give a shoot | 14:31 |
| valdur55 | Kleggas, i am ready to test your app. | 14:32 |
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| Kleggas | valdur55: great :) | 14:37 |
| Kleggas | valdur55: let me just find somewhere to upload it for you | 14:37 |
| Kleggas | somewhere I can connect to from within the companies firewall.... | 14:38 |
| Kleggas | valdur55: not that easy it turns out, can not reach any of my servers from here. You got some mail I can attach the package to? :( | 14:46 |
| Kleggas | thanks, emailed it | 14:50 |
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| heymaster | how to convert byte value to string which acts like byte ? (qml) | 16:11 |
| heymaster | string formatted like byte value | 16:12 |
| heymaster | blueSocket.sendStringData(String.fromCharCode(value)) | 16:13 |
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| Kleggas | heymaster: loop over the chars and use: ord(ch)? | 16:14 |
| heymaster | i have byte value 0-255 | 16:15 |
| heymaster | which need to sent through string like a byte | 16:15 |
| heymaster | maybe i can try to send like two symbols hex value | 16:17 |
| Kleggas | ah ok, I read that too fast, sorry. | 16:18 |
| heymaster | Kleggas: ok, no problem :) | 16:19 |
| Kleggas | so, once you got your bytes, say '97' and '98' and '99', you want to put them in one string, but being able later on (the receiving side) to get them back in chars, so just adding them one by one would mess it up a it would be string "979899" which wouldn't say which digits belong to a new byte? | 16:19 |
| heymaster | yes | 16:24 |
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| heymaster | i get strange numbers o receiver side | 16:24 |
| heymaster | i will try to send "aa" | 16:26 |
| Kleggas | heymaster: '' + str(ord('a')) + str(ord('b')) + str(ord('c')) -> '979899'. If this is what you do (or something like this) to make the string, then you do not know if the first byte (example) is 9 or 97. 1 digit, 2 digits, or even three? a starts on 97, d is 100. so some will require you to convert 2 of the digit, some 3. You can see it on asciitable.com | 16:27 |
| Kleggas | so you will have to make some way to delimit the string, like: '97, 98, 99) and then use that | 16:28 |
| Kleggas | to get it back to a char, use chr(97) -> output 'a' | 16:29 |
| heymaster | Kleggas: I'm using sendStringData(). I tried to send "aa" and getting on arduino 00040970970004097097 .. Maybe because string has different encoding ? | 16:30 |
| Kleggas | heymaster: oh, then no idea, havent tried that | 16:30 |
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| heymaster | Kleggas: everything OK. I fixed :) | 16:31 |
| Kleggas | :) | 16:31 |
| heymaster | I was using print method, but not write on arduino side | 16:32 |
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| heymaster | http://cl.ly/image/31162R0C1T2Z << with N9 i can control led brightness through bluetooth :) | 21:54 |
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| djszapi_ | so Jolla switched to Tizen? | 21:54 |
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| heymaster | djszapi_: http://cl.ly/image/31162R0C1T2Z what you think ? | 21:54 |
| heymaster | controll led brightness through bluetooth. just 1 day simple hack :) | 21:55 |
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| djszapi_ | heymaster: neat :-) | 21:58 |
| heymaster | very simple :) | 21:58 |
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| heymaster | djszapi_: jolla switched to tizen ? :D | 21:59 |
| djszapi_ | apparently. | 21:59 |
| heymaster | heh | 21:59 |
| djszapi_ | they thought of android as well, but they remained with Tizen in the end :D | 22:00 |
| heymaster | don't see on they twitter that they switched to Tizen :) | 22:03 |
| djszapi_ | it is not yet announced :D | 22:04 |
| djszapi_ | I am leaking the information. xD | 22:04 |
| Elleo | nah, I heard they're changing CEO again and switching to Windows CE | 22:05 |
| djszapi_ | well, it is not so simple to exceed Elop :D | 22:06 |
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| njsf | Does Tizen have Qml and plain Qt ? | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | unsure if what that question means... | 22:20 |
| djszapi_ | unsure what* | 22:20 |
| njsf | Let me restate then | 22:21 |
| njsf | Is Tizen a HTML5 _purist_ environment | 22:21 |
| djszapi_ | try to restate again. | 22:21 |
| djszapi_ | it is Linux.. | 22:21 |
| njsf | or will it allow apps developed with Qml | 22:21 |
| njsf | Yes, but that is the kernel | 22:21 |
| njsf | there is a lot of other stuff on top | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | so...? | 22:22 |
| njsf | for instance, is the display X11 ? | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | hopefully not. | 22:22 |
| njsf | Then it is not as open right ? | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | but most likely there is some compatibility. | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | huh? | 22:22 |
| njsf | you can't just recompile anything | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | unsure what you are talking about :D | 22:23 |
| njsf | you'll have to port to their display technology | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | as if X was the only open source project :D | 22:23 |
| njsf | it is NOT | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | and wayland would be a M$ closed stuff, you are putting it that way... | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | no, you do not have to.. | 22:23 |
| njsf | I'm talking about the corpus of OSS around with GUI | 22:23 |
| njsf | the Linux ones, rely on X11 | 22:23 |
| njsf | if you don't have that, then you'll have a hard time porting | 22:24 |
| njsf | if you want to code in a UI toolkit it has to have bindings to the display technology | 22:24 |
| njsf | Qt has for X11 | 22:24 |
| njsf | so if it is Linux and X11 then sure, no issue | 22:24 |
| djszapi_ | I think you should just read upon Qt, especially qtwayland... | 22:24 |
| njsf | So what you are saying is that Tizen uses wayland ? | 22:25 |
| djszapi_ | no | 22:25 |
| njsf | Then I don't get you. I wasn't being confrontational or anything. Was not demeaning any project. | 22:26 |
| djszapi_ | I am saying it supports wayland and X. | 22:26 |
| njsf | Geez | 22:26 |
| djszapi_ | but pushes wayland forward of course | 22:26 |
| djszapi_ | as X is a very very, and very old and obsolete technology. | 22:26 |
| njsf | Ok, great. | 22:26 |
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| njsf | No disagreement there. Just your reaction was way overblown IMO. | 22:26 |
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| djszapi_ | faenil: so why did Jolla switch to Tizen? :O | 22:41 |
| faenil | ?? | 22:41 |
| djszapi_ | :D | 22:41 |
| tehdely | jolla switched to tizen? | 22:41 |
| tehdely | man i miss all the news lol | 22:42 |
| djszapi_ | yes, today. | 22:42 |
| djszapi_ | not announced yet, just leaked. :-P | 22:42 |
| matrixx | :O | 22:42 |
| tehdely | i take it QT is out, then | 22:42 |
| tehdely | will any major platform be using qt? | 22:42 |
| faenil | oh come on djszapi_ please shut up ;) | 22:42 |
| djszapi_ | tehdely: if you make a major platform out of the thin air, yes. :D | 22:43 |
| tehdely | what is the main toolkit for bb10 (assuming that is ever released) | 22:43 |
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| tehdely | i am most curious right now about bb10 + firefox os | 22:43 |
| djszapi_ | oh, I should get the playbooks distributed, this reminds me... | 22:43 |
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| djszapi_ | got 15 from RIM :D | 22:43 |
| djszapi_ | is getting* | 22:44 |
| tehdely | i'll take one ;) | 22:44 |
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| heymaster | djszapi_: yes X11 big protocol, want to try to implement it? | 22:56 |
| heymaster | :D | 22:56 |
| djszapi_ | thanks, but no thanks :) | 22:56 |
| tehdely | future windowing systems will be written in node | 22:57 |
| * tehdely ducks | 22:57 | |
| heymaster | i implemented simple vnc and then looked at X11 docs :D vnc is very simple | 22:57 |
| heymaster | vnc without input | 22:57 |
| djszapi_ | who cares about windowing system come on... | 22:58 |
| djszapi_ | guys you are not geeks :D | 22:58 |
| heymaster | nerds ? :D | 22:58 |
| heymaster | why implement X11 is not geeky thing ? | 22:59 |
| heymaster | :D | 22:59 |
| heymaster | it's like back to roots :) | 23:01 |
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| heymaster | I think is geeky thing to implement virtual machines or protocols. and not apps run on them. | 23:03 |
| djszapi_ | good night guys | 23:04 |
| djszapi_ | happy hacking hours :-) | 23:04 |
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| heymaster | good night :) | 23:05 |
| djszapi_ | aka. HHH ;) | 23:05 |
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