IRC log of #europython for Sunday, 2012-07-08

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ctheunegoooooooood morning09:55
Jarusmorning ctheune ;)10:18
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Jerubgood morning.10:21
ctheunebtw: as I just wondered about this, someone else might like this info, too:10:24
ctheunehttp://hackerboss.com/get-rid-of-templates/10:24
* ctheune +1 the bern convention and starts removing copyright headers10:24
Jerubi like knowing who the author is.10:25
Jerubbut that's all i like templates for.10:28
ctheunethat's what VCS is for IMHO10:30
ctheuneor the general package metadata10:30
ctheunei really don't care about individual files that much10:30
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ctheuneI know that argument but I've gotta say it's been a long time since I wondered about the author or history of an individual file.10:31
ctheuneI mostly wondered: why isn't this in VCS.10:31
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mgedminctheune, http://tieguy.org/blog/2012/03/17/on-the-importance-of-per-file-license-information/11:11
ctheunemgedmin: hmm. still. that even argues for the license information. not just the copyright.11:13
ctheunewhich in the zope project ended up in an almost full-screen header that mentions that you have to provide a copy of the full ZPL anyway11:13
ctheuneso the header we currently use at my company isn't useful in that respect anyway. so there isn't a difference when not having it :)11:14
mgedminI don't use any header, and I've been wondering if that's a bad thing (for my open-source stuff) after I read that blog post11:14
* mgedmin hg clones batou and runs the bootstrap11:18
ctheunemgedmin: heh. you around? wanna sit together?11:21
mgedminI'm in the nice indoors room where people are not smoking11:21
ctheunemgedmin: i don't think it's a terrible thing. as I said: i haven't seen *anything* bad happening and wonder whether the effort is over-shooting.11:22
ctheunemgedmin: i'll come over.11:22
mgedminthere's even a table with a "Batou" sign on it :)11:22
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brickoi11:42
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* flox discovered a cpython test failure which happens only on EuroPython network ;)11:51
floxhttp://bugs.python.org/issue1528511:51
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ctheunemgedmin: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8009333/vim-show-diff-on-commit-in-mercurial12:04
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brickZAhas anyone considered making a torrent with the complete content of files.ep, or even just the videos?12:34
d0ugalbrickZA: I considered it.12:36
d0ugalbut that's all :)12:36
Jarusit would be very helpful ;)12:37
ctheuneI'd be happy to.12:38
ctheuneIf someone passes me the files.12:39
ctheunePreferably with a datacenter-located URL that I can get to my servers.12:39
ctheunedoes anyone know whether SimpleAES is a suitable replacement for 'aesfile'?12:42
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brickZActheune: I'm wgetting it to my machine right now, but that probably would not help you :)12:43
brickZActheune: unless you bring an external drive?12:43
ctheunebrickZA: yeah, no. :)12:43
brickZActheune: don't underestimate the power of the sneakernet ;)12:44
ctheunebrickZA: right. i just don't have enough upstream around to run a torrent from our office12:44
ctheunei'd be happy to run it from the datacenter12:44
ctheunehowever, if your wgetting works fine enough, I can just do the same.12:45
ctheunehow much data is it?12:45
brickZAstill going, but about 400MB per talk12:46
brickZAabout 20GB I guess12:46
ctheunek12:47
d0ugalNice :D12:48
ctheunenot that bad12:48
d0ugalI just mean nice that your doing it :)12:48
ctheunebrickZA: can you pass me your wget command? is it simple mirror mode or anything fancy needed?12:48
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brickZActheune: not sure if I'm doing it right. I'm actually trying to get the html as well so there is a kind of index :)12:57
brickZAbut it _is_ getting some files. I do:12:57
brickZAwget -r -l3 -N --no-parent http://files.ep/info-40pycon.it12:58
ctheuneah, got damnit.12:59
ctheuneobviously12:59
ctheunethat address isn't reachable from the outside.12:59
brickZAright yes :)12:59
brickZAwhere are you located?12:59
ctheune*plonk*12:59
* ctheune just waves12:59
zerokyeah, sadly :-(12:59
ctheune:)12:59
ctheunewell13:00
ctheuneonto my computer then13:00
d0ugalctheune: can we start the torrent here and use the local network to build up some seeds?13:05
ctheuned0ugal: sounds like an idea13:06
ctheunebrickZA: where are you?13:06
Jarusd0ugal: should works13:06
brickZActheune: sprints, um, spaghetti13:06
brickZAthe big room13:06
ctheuneme too13:06
ctheuneas I said13:06
ctheunei was waving :)13:06
brickZAoooh, you were serious13:07
Jaruswe can than also add some server for leeching and later seeding ;)13:07
brickZAok, i'll wave13:07
d0ugaljuD2k: Yay. http://s.do.ugal.me/Hv0u13:10
zerokd0ugal: sadly no reply from marc andre so far :-(13:10
d0ugal:(13:11
jezdezanyone want to share a cab to the airport in an hour?13:11
ctheunebrickZA: how's that indexing going?13:20
mfandreasctheune, its done ...13:20
mfandreas!summon ctheune :)13:21
ctheune*woosh*13:21
brickZAok, temp torrent link: http://d.pr/f/TAid13:26
brickZAfor videos13:26
zerokbrickZA: is anyone already seeding this?13:29
d0ugalzerok: I'm not seeing any13:32
* d0ugal shrugs13:33
zerokjupp, me neither13:33
zerokyes, me neither13:33
ctheuneok13:33
zerokgrrrr13:33
ctheunebrickZA: tracker no1:13:33
zerokstupid scrolling13:33
ctheunegocept14.fe.rzob.gocept.net:900013:33
ctheuneno2:13:35
ctheune10.20.26.118:900013:35
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d0ugalctheune: still no luck13:56
ctheuned0ugal: yeah :/13:56
* ctheune mumbles13:56
mfandreaswe now rsync the videos to a second notebook ... while bittorrent is checking hashes :(13:58
* zerok is really curious when his luggage will show up again :-/14:01
d0ugalzerok: you lost it on the way back?14:02
zerokd0ugal: nope, my airline did :-(((((14:02
zerokwith all my hot chocolate in it14:02
d0ugalsure, that's what I mean I guess :(14:02
d0ugalwhat airline?14:02
zerokd0ugal: was meant in jest ;-) austrian/lufthansa/staralliance thingy14:03
d0ugalah right14:03
mfandreasctheune, do we need to share the torrentfile? or can we get it from the tracker?14:04
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Jarusctheune, mfandreas : normaly we must share it by ourself14:05
mgedminbatou.remote.RemoteHost._bootstrap is scary14:05
mfandreasi think i will create a new torrent file after rsyncing the data to my notebook14:05
ctheuneJarus: ?14:05
mfandreashopefully a torrent with all files14:05
mfandreasbecause adding files to a torrent is not possible!14:06
ctheunemfandreas: that would be excellent14:06
ctheunegnarr14:06
mfandreasack14:06
Jarusmybe I chould wrote a simple skript to clean the file structur to make direct a clean good torrent file14:06
mfandreaswe could do partial torrents ... so one for monday, one for tuesday, etc14:06
davidcramer_i love europe14:07
davidcramer_and how easy you can tether14:07
davidcramer_fuuuuu american mobile companies14:07
* Jarus likes German Telekom with good working tethering ;)14:09
Jarusone torrent file is better than every person use the same torrent and seed also after he download the file that he only want ;)14:11
ctheuneJarus: yeah.14:13
ctheuneit isn't as flexible as I thought it would be14:13
brickZAdavidcramer_: you should start an Occupy campaing on that topic :)14:13
brickZAcampaign even14:13
brickZAdavidcramer_: you're not related to this guy?14:14
brickZAhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kramer_(singer)14:14
brickZA;)14:14
ctheuneJarus: you probably also may only want to use my tracker in the data center. the other one will go away pretty soon14:16
Jarusctheune: can you please come to us ;)14:16
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davidcramer_hr14:28
davidcramer_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=garsUmsZIac14:28
davidcramer_does audio work on that for you guys14:28
d0ugaldavidcramer_: yup14:29
davidcramer_hrmmm14:30
davidcramer_wonder why its not for me14:30
davidcramer_neither is adam's for me14:30
davidcramer_but other oyutube videos are14:30
d0ugalStrange, its loud and clear here14:30
davidcramer_what was that scaling django talk?14:30
davidcramer_trying to find it on there14:30
davidcramer_was hoping to watch it on train :P14:30
d0ugaldavidcramer_: https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/talks/django-under-massive-loads ?14:32
d0ugalDoesn't have a YT link for some reason :/14:32
davidcramer_ah uya that one14:32
d0ugalMost of them have the video in the description, i.e. https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/talks/not-state-python-union14:33
davidcramer_looks like its not up yet14:33
d0ugaldavidcramer_: It's not on files.ep either14:34
d0ugalKinda wanted to see it too14:36
mgedminctheune, why "repository_base = self._repository_config('bundle.mainreporoot')" instead of "repository_base = subprocess.check_output('hg root')" ?14:41
ctheunebecause i haven't received a pull request for that one14:43
ctheunesomeone next to me found that14:43
ctheuneand changed it14:43
ctheuneit's in one of the forks14:43
ctheunefeel free to simplify it (again) :)14:43
rbpHey, anyone want to share a cab to Florence airport, anytime between 3pm and 4pm?14:48
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mfandreasctheune, rsync complete14:58
mfandreasbut files are missing ... plone for the win14:58
d0ugallol14:59
mitsuhikodavidcramer_: sound is only on one channel in the vids15:04
mitsuhikoleft i think15:04
ctheunemfandreas: mfandreas hrgh.15:07
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d0ugalmitsuhiko: Huh, how did I not notice that. Just tried, I still get it on the right but *much* quieter15:11
d0ugalmfandreas: What's the total size?15:12
mgedminctheune, batou wishlist: --dry-run15:15
ctheunemgedmin: hmm. not possible :(15:16
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mfandreaseuropython videos, at the moment only monday: http://10.20.22.44:8000/15:46
mfandreasbitorrent only15:47
* mgedmin discovers he is grumpy while dealing with mercurial15:55
mgedminmaybe the lunch sandwich is running out?15:55
brickZAwe demand more downloaders of the torrent ;)15:58
d0ugalAnybody tweeted it?15:59
mfandreasits only internal15:59
d0ugaloh15:59
mfandreaswe are syncing the data to the outside and provide a full-torrent later15:59
d0ugalgotcha15:59
mgedminsirex, mercurial help! please :)16:04
sirex... it was: hg record16:05
mfandreastuesday added to http://10.20.22.44:8000/16:06
mfandreasinformations about the tracker: http://10.20.22.44:9000/16:10
mgedminhow can I add the current mercurial branch name in my bash prompt?16:14
mgedminaugh!16:19
mgedminhg doesn't strip off the bits after its 'HG: --' in the commit message16:20
mgedminI've been including the full diff of the commit in the commit message thanks to my shiny new "show diff inside the vim window" plugin16:20
JarusGuys we need more leecher and seed for the files please help with bittorent. Get the torrent from http://10.20.22.44:8000/ (Only available in conference network)16:29
mfandreastorrent for friday added -- http://10.20.22.44:8000/16:32
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mfandreasthursday added; wednesday hashing ... http://10.20.22.44:8000/17:41
mfandreasall videos seeding: torrent files: http://10.20.22.44:8000/ and tracker: http://10.20.22.44:9000/17:58
mfandreasbut only until the staff here unplugs the switch :)17:58
zerokmfandreas: sadly non of this seems to be reachable from the outside :-(18:02
mfandreasjepp. i know18:03
mfandreaswe have only synct the monday to the outside world ... the rest will have to wait (or using the hotel wifi later ;) )18:03
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JarusWho has 100% by friday ?18:22
TheSheepaaaand home :)18:22
JarusTheSheep: sorry? but you don't mean that you have the files already home?18:23
TheSheepJarus: the files?18:25
JarusTheSheep: forget it ;) I thinked you talk about the video files of the conference ;)18:26
JarusWho has this IP 10.20.27.145 ???18:32
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fonso sad that I couldn't be there  :(21:45
TheSheepfon: maybe next year21:51
TheSheepwhere's the will, there's a way21:51
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davidcramer_https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150926585871977.409868.503846976&type=1&l=0b3ad8727023:49
davidcramer_^^ 75% europython photos23:49
davidcramer_and by europython, i mean d0ugal juD2k mitsuhiko etc and us drinking :)23:50
fon^^ that's what I missed the most23:52
Jarus40GB videos uploading over hotel wlan to root server for torrent distribution23:53
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