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| natea | brutasse - are you at the sprint this morning? | 11:36 |
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| davide | CPython sprinters, join #cpython-sprint | 11:36 |
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| davidcramer | natea, i think he is still asleep :) | 11:44 |
| davidcramer | i havent seen him yet | 11:44 |
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| david`bgk | he is not :) | 11:48 |
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| davidcramer | are all the django dudes in here? | 12:59 |
| davidcramer | or do you have another chan? | 12:59 |
| brutasse | maybe #django-sprint, dunno | 13:00 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer, #django-sprint | 13:00 |
| davidcramer | brutasse, are you here now? :P | 13:00 |
| brutasse | davidcramer, in front of you | 13:00 |
| davidcramer | what do you guys think of this interface for recording events in sentry + structured data (in this case, data that represents the Http request, which will render differently than normal metadata in an event) | 13:01 |
| davidcramer | http://dpaste.com/558722/ | 13:01 |
| davidcramer | e.g. the http request data gets used in various areas, where normal metadata just shows at the end of the event details (like here, http://cramer.io/0Y2O2V0g10101C2s2a3l) | 13:01 |
| davidcramer | anyone here strongly opinionated on how you should structured your tests directory? e.g. integration vs unit tests :) | 13:18 |
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| d0ugal | davidcramer: just do it better than Django ;) | 13:28 |
| davidcramer | :P | 13:28 |
| davidcramer | im not sure if i should just put them in the same directories or isolate them | 13:29 |
| Gandalfar | same dir until they're big enough to warrant more structure | 13:42 |
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| davidcramer | Gandalfar, ya i ended up just doing a separate TestCase for the integration tests | 13:50 |
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| ambv | My mid-2009 15 inch MacBook Pro, SN W89362EA64B has been stolen yesterday. Any suggestions on where else should I put that information? | 14:19 |
| davide | ambv: in Florence? | 14:22 |
| ambv | yup, my backpack was taken from the restaurant I was at | 14:22 |
| ambv | didn't noticed until it was too late | 14:22 |
| davide | ambv: not the EP restaurant? | 14:23 |
| davidcramer | ambv, that sucks :/ | 14:23 |
| ambv | no, from Le Colonnine at Via de Benci 6 | 14:26 |
| david`bgk | ouch | 14:26 |
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| ambv | they took the whole backpack along with those expensive converters, chargers for the laptop and the iPhone (not the phone itself fortunately) | 14:30 |
| ambv | so I'm around 2000 EUR behind | 14:30 |
| ambv | :/ | 14:31 |
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| davidcramer | hrm | 14:53 |
| davidcramer | value.__class__ = klass | 14:53 |
| davidcramer | why wont this work :( | 14:53 |
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| Jerub | davidcramer: um. because. | 15:06 |
| Jerub | changing the type of an instance is an exceptionally hard thing to do. | 15:06 |
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| davidcramer | Jerub, how does pickle manage to make this work? | 15:16 |
| voidspace | changing class works mostly | 15:16 |
| voidspace | but not for builtin / c types | 15:16 |
| davidcramer | ya im not trying to change crazy stuff, just my own custom classes | 15:16 |
| davidcramer | but thats erroring for me | 15:16 |
| davidcramer | TypeError: __class__ must be set to a class | 15:16 |
| voidspace | well that's pretty self-explanatory | 15:16 |
| voidspace | :-) | 15:17 |
| davidcramer | but it is a class :( | 15:17 |
| voidspace | what is klass in your case? | 15:17 |
| davidcramer | <class 'sentry.core.interfaces.Http'> | 15:17 |
| voidspace | does that inherit from a C class or is it pure python? | 15:17 |
| voidspace | and is it an old style class? | 15:17 |
| davidcramer | pure python, new-style | 15:17 |
| voidspace | and what is value? | 15:17 |
| davidcramer | value = _EmptyClass() :) | 15:18 |
| davidcramer | which is old-style | 15:18 |
| davidcramer | (same implementation as pickle) | 15:18 |
| davidcramer | oh i think it works if i make that a new-style class | 15:18 |
| voidspace | yeah, in a simple experiment I can't change an old style class to a new style class by __class__ assignment | 15:19 |
| voidspace | although the error message is not helpful... | 15:19 |
| davidcramer | ya | 15:19 |
| voidspace | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/419058/ | 15:19 |
| davidcramer | yep i just changed it to new-style | 15:20 |
| davidcramer | no clue how pickle works :P | 15:21 |
| davidcramer | but that code isnt the easiest to read through | 15:21 |
| voidspace | yeah | 15:21 |
| voidspace | aint that the truth | 15:21 |
| davidcramer | voidspace, you're not here at the sprints are you? | 15:21 |
| voidspace | no :-( | 15:21 |
| voidspace | just loitering on irc | 15:21 |
| voidspace | but about to leave I'm afraid | 15:21 |
| davidcramer | :) | 15:21 |
| davidcramer | http://dpaste.com/558758/ | 15:22 |
| davidcramer | seem like a reasonable API? | 15:22 |
| voidspace | should avoid dictionary as a default value unless you intend for it to be shared between instances | 15:24 |
| davidcramer | ah ya i changed that elsewher,e need to do it everywhere | 15:24 |
| davidcramer | (also, that is awful behavior) | 15:24 |
| voidspace | well, the alternatives would be worse... | 15:25 |
| davidcramer | ya i suppose | 15:25 |
| davidcramer | just a huge gotcha | 15:25 |
| voidspace | yep | 15:25 |
| voidspace | try and think of a sane way for the alternative to work with arbitrary objects and I think you'll find there are equally huge gotchas though | 15:26 |
| voidspace | if I do def x(foo=bar): pass | 15:26 |
| dreimark | http://www.flickr.com/photos/onyame/sets/72157627019654580/ some images by onyame | 15:27 |
| voidspace | and bar refers to some mutable object - should the name be re-looked up from the defining namespace every time the function is executed? | 15:27 |
| dreimark | is someone from japan still here or does go soon to that place? | 15:27 |
| voidspace | davidcramer: so what happens when the function is called (what the default value is) will depend on what code later on does with that name... | 15:28 |
| voidspace | davidcramer: anyway... :-) | 15:28 |
| ThomasWaldmann | is someone from JAPAN still here? | 15:28 |
| voidspace | going afk | 15:28 |
| ThomasWaldmann | (or, to be more precise, someone who returns to japan soon?) | 15:28 |
| davidcramer | http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-6130/downloads/enus.html?operatingSystem=macosx | 15:33 |
| davidcramer | drivers for pinter | 15:33 |
| davidcramer | *printer | 15:33 |
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| Gandalfar | davidcramer: https://github.com/gandalfar/sentry/commit/eb3e43993d3e3415044ac15b1693a37a6ee9ee3f | 16:03 |
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| davidcramer | http://dpaste.com/558791/ | 17:02 |
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| davidcramer | Gandalfar, http://dpaste.com/558809/ | 18:16 |
| davidcramer | Gandalfar, thats the json format | 18:17 |
| davidcramer | at least bare bones | 18:17 |
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| Gandalfar | davidcramer: https://github.com/gandalfar/sentry/commit/fe383b0cd0d638cf39fa8e7d8702e1c027a6d170 | 19:06 |
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| dreimark | anyone from JAPAN here ? | 19:52 |
| dreimark | or close to? | 19:52 |
| lvh | There were two Japanese guys at the conference but I can't see them anymore in the sprint room. | 20:01 |
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| dreimark | lvh: thx, one of them left a powersupply on our table | 20:44 |
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