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| Almad|Tabris | this city is certainly alive at night ,) | 01:23 |
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| davidcramer---- | good morning :) | 09:26 |
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| ronny | hi | 10:13 |
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| lac | could anybody that sees lvh tell him i am looking for him? tnx | 12:06 |
| moreati | lac: I've tweeted him, said your in here | 12:08 |
| lac | thank you | 12:08 |
| lac | i have a dinner ticket for him | 12:09 |
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| davidcramer---- | mmm dinner | 12:28 |
| davidcramer---- | will be awesome :D | 12:28 |
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| ambv | yup, it is :D | 12:55 |
| ambv | *it will :D | 12:55 |
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| voidspace | jezdez: sounds like you're having fun :-) | 15:10 |
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| davidcramer---- | the internet is so awful | 15:48 |
| jezdez | +1 | 15:48 |
| davidcramer---- | i wish solr worked for us :( | 15:49 |
| davidcramer---- | cant even handle 1 req/s :) | 15:49 |
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| jezdez | davidcramer----: uh, really? | 15:54 |
| jezdez | that's odd | 15:54 |
| davidcramer---- | jezdez: ya | 15:54 |
| davidcramer---- | we were cheating a bit | 15:54 |
| davidcramer---- | trying to scale vertically :) | 15:54 |
| davidcramer---- | turns out solr is impossible to do that with | 15:54 |
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| davidcramer---- | doesnt matter how much memory/cpu you throw at it | 15:54 |
| jezdez | huh, interesting, why wouldn't you want to go horizontal? | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | the distributed model is kind of iffy w/ solr | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | its not very clearly defined | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | we're testing it right now along side some other solutions, like elastic search | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | so far elastic is much faster | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | also testing sphinx in distributed model though | 15:55 |
| jezdez | hm, looking forward to your results | 15:55 |
| davidcramer---- | ya we'll publish as soon as we have something reasonable | 15:56 |
| davidcramer---- | taking way too long to make search work at disqus though | 15:56 |
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| davidcramer---- | would love to find an awesome wayt o standardize the profiling stuff in Django | 16:04 |
| Gandalfar | +1 :) | 16:04 |
| davidcramer---- | we actually hae the ability to load the debug toolbar on demand in production | 16:04 |
| davidcramer---- | but its a pretty iffy hack :) | 16:05 |
| davidcramer---- | like everything fun i write haha | 16:05 |
| Gandalfar | doesn't it slow down the whole django? | 16:05 |
| jezdez | davidcramer----: yeah, I wanna port the debug_toolbar to contrib (and remove the hacks before, like how it adds itself to the response) | 16:05 |
| davidcramer---- | it doesnt | 16:05 |
| jezdez | davidcramer----: let's talk later about that, I wanna do this | 16:05 |
| davidcramer---- | i thought about doing something in debug toolbar like this profiler | 16:05 |
| davidcramer---- | just a general overview of the request | 16:05 |
| davidcramer---- | Gandalfar: we specify a GET flag to load the debug toolbar on our page | 16:06 |
| davidcramer---- | we also have a profiler in it as well though | 16:06 |
| Gandalfar | nice :) | 16:08 |
| jezdez | there is http://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-db-readonly | 16:11 |
| davidcramer---- | i want to OS ours | 16:12 |
| davidcramer---- | ours is very sneaky though -- it replaces the low-level database backend to prevent *any* kind of writes | 16:12 |
| davidcramer---- | ah this does cursors | 16:13 |
| davidcramer---- | nice | 16:13 |
| jezdez | heh | 16:13 |
| davidcramer---- | <3 crazy awesome creative monkey patches :D | 16:13 |
| jezdez | ;) | 16:13 |
| davidcramer---- | we're also hoping to solve dynamic settings | 16:14 |
| davidcramer---- | but at an extreme level that no one would want to use :) | 16:14 |
| davidcramer---- | planning on something like zookeeper with a conf proxy | 16:14 |
| jezdez | uh uh | 16:15 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer----, as in get rid of global settings? | 16:15 |
| davidcramer---- | Gandalfar: not entirely -- there would be a default (just like it works now), but there would be a middle layer that would dynamically pull in settings from something like Zookeeper | 16:15 |
| davidcramer---- | mostly we want to be able to do things like feature switches but with higher availability so we can swap out servers/pools/some hard settings | 16:16 |
| Gandalfar | ok different problem, we're looking for a way to change global settings objects so we can re-use gunicorn instances/memory usage between versions of django code/site specific settings | 16:17 |
| davidcramer---- | pretty sure i had a question but it was about one of the first slides, and i forget what they were :p | 16:17 |
| davidcramer---- | Gandalfar: ah | 16:17 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer----, it could possibly make your modifications easier | 16:18 |
| davidcramer---- | ya | 16:18 |
| davidcramer---- | i really like the way flask settings work | 16:19 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer----, we're writing an overview document - http://piratenpad.de/smtjxarLZR | 16:19 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer----, just trying to document what should a new settings thingie solve/improve | 16:19 |
| davidcramer---- | interesting ill read it over | 16:20 |
| davidcramer---- | settings are my magical globals atm :D | 16:20 |
| davidcramer---- | haha | 16:20 |
| Gandalfar | davidcramer----, k, I'll poke in you in person later :) | 16:20 |
| davidcramer---- | :) | 16:20 |
| Gandalfar | end of talk ^^ | 16:21 |
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| Gandalfar | anyone from crew here? | 16:35 |
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| jon1012 | hey | 19:29 |
| jon1012 | can I resell my two tickets for the pyfiorentina ? | 19:29 |
| jon1012 | all the people I know don't have tickets | 19:29 |
| jon1012 | (or is it strictly nominative ?) | 19:30 |
| jon1012 | and if I resell it, would there be people interested ? :) | 19:30 |
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| jezdez | zerok_: ^^ | 19:55 |
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| ThomasWaldmann | hi | 20:31 |
| ThomasWaldmann | just a question to potentially other interested people: | 20:31 |
| ThomasWaldmann | is there any interest in an open space about packaging static files (like jquery, other js stuff, ...) so it can be handled with setuptools/pip/distribute/etc.? | 20:32 |
| * Almad|Tabris would be interested in being able to specify jquery version as dependency, yeah | 20:34 | |
| jezdez | ThomasWaldmann: I heard from fanstatic being neat: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=fanstatic&submit=search | 20:35 |
| ThomasWaldmann | it is doing some stuff I don't want | 20:35 |
| jezdez | ah, hm | 20:36 |
| ThomasWaldmann | and i already talked to them, but there didn't come out much of it | 20:36 |
| * ThomasWaldmann wants something minimal, no fat, no dependencies pulled in | 20:36 | |
| ThomasWaldmann | (no dependencies one does not want I mean) | 20:37 |
| jezdez | ThomasWaldmann: yeah, that's why we went with MANIFEST.in/package_data in Django | 20:39 |
| jezdez | but that's a pain to maintain | 20:39 |
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| ThomasWaldmann | i just thought about plain files in a pypi package with minimal metadata | 20:41 |
| ThomasWaldmann | and the only required dependency would be a minimal lib to deal with that metadata | 20:42 |
| jezdez | hm, I think distutils2's setup.cfg would be a good idea for that | 20:42 |
| jezdez | that is really minimal already | 20:42 |
| jezdez | but it's also slightly beta | 20:43 |
| ThomasWaldmann | python3 only? | 20:44 |
| * ThomasWaldmann needs 2.6 and working now/soon | 20:44 | |
| ThomasWaldmann | brb | 20:47 |
| jezdez | not sure what the current state is, but afaik it's planned to be backported | 20:47 |
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| jon1012 | ThomasWaldmann, toscawidgets somehow permits that | 21:19 |
| jon1012 | ThomasWaldmann, but you have to use it to serve your js | 21:19 |
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