IRC log of #europython for Monday, 2010-07-19

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SafPlusPlusStill pretty silent here, I would've expected more people connecting and disconnecting by now... :)10:30
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MrWuhi ppl11:06
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MS-Blimey, he's ignorant of concurrency in C++11:49
MS-Where's STM in that list ?11:51
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MS-(nice talk though :) )11:52
MS-Talks being recorded in this session - Michael Foord & Raymond Hettinger11:53
MS-(videoed that is)11:53
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MrWuhey11:56
MrWunice keynote11:57
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MS-MrWu: indeed :)11:59
Mezjust so people know, I've had Freenode staff allow more connections from the conservatoire :) meaning people won't get kicked off of IRC12:00
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MrWuMez: nice to hear that12:02
MrWu(Another option is to ssh home and then connect from there! ;)12:02
MezMrWu: you don't count, you're not connectng directly ;)12:03
Mezyeah - but this is an incase people aren't that sensible12:03
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MrWunice talk about unittest too (even for a testing newbie like me)12:27
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MS-Being recorded after the break: PyPy talk , Glashammer & Running Ghana VAT on Python12:29
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Mezyay, nice to see people showing up with the conference/europython tag now :)13:03
Mezwish I could be there today13:04
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MS-Pypy talk starting in Recital Hall13:05
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MrWuMez: mmm, you meant on irc? (the conference/europython tag)13:06
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ambvTheSheep: pingu13:41
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Fionahey i can connect to the wifi again13:45
Fionagood going13:45
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MS-Gah, PyPy still has bad support for generators :-(13:51
Fionathat sucks13:52
Fionagenerators are my lifeblood13:52
MS-ditto13:52
MS-That explains my general question about pypy13:53
MS-Makes it useless for me13:53
Fionasame for me13:53
Fionamaybe one day...?13:53
* Fiona sighs13:53
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MS-Maybe13:56
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Fionathis channel needs more activity :(13:58
Fionai blame the flaky connection13:59
Fionaand/or lack of knowing it exists13:59
MS-It is a bit flaky13:59
MS-Probably ought to write up on the whiteboard13:59
Fionait seems only marginly better than it was last year13:59
Fionais that the lightning talks board? is it up already?13:59
MS-They've had alot less help from the venue this year13:59
MS-Yep, the board is up13:59
Fionacool13:59
Fionamight do another game related lightning talk14:00
MS-That'd be cool :)14:00
* Fiona winging it14:00
MS-I've signed up for a lightning talk too - struck me that my ignite leeds talk from last year might be useful/interesting to give here.14:00
Fionacool14:01
MS-"the 5 minute talk, not the full half hour" :)14:01
Fionais that whereabouts you hail from?14:01
MS-Manchester14:01
Fionaoh cool14:01
Fioname too14:01
MS-MS -- michael sparks :)14:01
FionaOH14:01
Fionalmao14:01
MS-heh :)14:01
MS-Yeah, your nick is more obvious than mine :)14:01
* Fiona durp da duh da dum14:02
Fionaare you doing video recordings again?14:02
MS-I am indeed. This year I have helpers14:02
Fionasweet14:02
FionaALSO while you're here14:03
MS-Though the helpers cameras have very limited battery life14:03
Fionawhatever happened to python manchester? I only went to that one meeting and i'm not sure if there were others but the turnout was great14:03
MS-We intended to have another. Then I think everyone got busy, which was a pain. I was speaking to Safe & David yesterday though and we've suggested that we restart it again.14:04
Fionai think you should14:04
Fionai think rainbar is a bit of a crappy venue, it's tiny and you just end up with groups of 4 people each at a table14:04
FionaIMO revolution is the best venue for this kinda stuff14:04
MS-That aspect was less than ideal14:04
Fionamadlab sucks14:04
MS-That's useful to know14:05
Fionai'm actually working in madlab14:05
MS-Helping with venue choices is a really useful thing14:05
Fionaand honestly it's just so badly suited to events14:05
MS-That's a real shame14:05
Fionabut no one will listen to me so geekup has moved14:05
Fionaand they're talking about having a barcamp there (dumbest idea in the world)14:05
MS-I keep missing geekup - there's always something on a tuesday14:05
Fionayeah since i work in the building i can just walk downstairs now14:06
Fionabut otherwise i wouldn't bother tbh14:06
Fionamadlab is such a depressing place14:06
MS-We had a workshop with tinker.it there a while back14:07
MS-and it was OK enough for that, but I think I can see what you mean14:07
MS-We didn't have that many people there14:07
Fionai hate the lack of music, the lack of drink, the lack of food and just the lack of atmosphere14:08
Fionaat least if we go to a bar you can pretend you're not an awkward hermit and am pretending to be sociable14:08
Fionainstead you skulk off to the back alleys of the northern quater14:08
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* MS- nods14:09
MS-I did wonder about that14:09
MS-The Lass O Gowrie - as used by Free Software Manchester seems pretty good, but the bar is relatively small and gets busy14:10
MS-However, you can hire the upstairs room, and their projector for not too much money14:10
Fionayeah i like the lass, it is slightly small but upstairs is good14:10
MS-(something like 10-20 quid I think)14:10
Fionahaha14:10
MS-Beer is better there :)14:10
Fionatrue enough14:11
Fionai used to work for the company that did the website for the lass14:11
Fionatrue story14:11
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MS-:)14:13
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SafPlusPlusHmm... deploying my appengine project (small one) does seem to be troublesome with this wifi... :)15:25
MrWuSafPlusPlus: avoid adrian bout hall for things like that (if you are here)15:31
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MetalJoefinally, I'm on :-)15:31
MrWuji MetalJoe15:31
MrWus/ji/hi15:32
MetalJoeheh, glad I'm not the only one who is having typing problems today15:32
MrWuterrycojones: bonito nick ;)15:32
MetalJoeheh15:33
MrWuso, where is going to be the social meeting today?15:33
terrycojonesMrWu: thx! :-)15:34
MrWuI arrived later yesterday, so I couldn't join, but today would be nice to have some beers15:34
MrWuterrycojones: ;)15:34
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MrWuups, just got the email about the social meeting15:35
MrWu:)15:35
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ntollhi15:39
MetalJoehello15:39
ntolltesting 12315:39
MetalJoe:-P15:39
SafPlusPlusMrWu: I wasn't there then, but I am now... :P15:39
MetalJoeIRC is from an era when networks were slow, bit like at the moment ;-)15:39
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MetalJoefine15:40
MrWujajajaja15:40
MrWuthat's the spirit15:40
MrWuspeed is important when doing tests!15:40
MrWuwe all learn that from this morning "good test, bad test" talk15:40
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SafPlusPlusd15:47
MrWu:)15:49
MrWuIRC is so cool15:49
MrWuI can't open websites, I can't send an email, but this connection is still alive15:49
MrWu:)15:49
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SafPlusPlusIndeed, I seems to even have trouble using lynx remotely... must be karma... :P15:50
MrWuSafPlusPlus: something you want to show to somebody here at the EP?15:52
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Mezthis is why tethering wins15:54
SafPlusPlusHehe, nah, not really aiming to show anything particular...15:55
MrWuMez: probably, but that depends on your phone company. Vodafone spain would drain my blood from my veins if I use the phone for data transfer15:56
MrWu(money is not enough for them!)15:56
zerokgrrr working on osm wasn't really such a good idea :-/15:56
MrWuthe ep website is not loading here, brrrr15:58
SafPlusPlusOeh, I think I managed to upload a picture of the whiteboard with the lightning talks to picasa...15:58
MrWuis "PostgreSQL's Python soup" still the next talk in the adrian boult hall?15:58
SafPlusPlusThat is my understanding...15:58
zerokwe need a local pypi mirror :-P15:58
SafPlusPlus:)15:58
MezMrWu: go get yourself a £10 sim - 50p a day on T-Mobile15:59
SafPlusPlusonly 50p?15:59
zerok50p?????15:59
MezMrWu: Or I can bring you a sim that's £5 per month tomorrow15:59
zerokhow much data?15:59
Mezwell, it's £5 for unlimited data for a month.15:59
zerokO_o16:00
Mezzerok: I think it's FUP @ 100Mb16:00
jekwhere can t-mobile sims be found?16:00
MezI have 3 sims that you can pay £5 for unlimited data for a month.16:00
zerokah ok, and i was wondering how bt openzone could compete there :-P16:00
MezI'll bring tomorrow.16:00
MrWup as in pence or as in pounds (I assume that it is the latter... isn't it?)16:00
Mez(if anyone wants, for tethering)16:00
MrWu;)16:00
Mezpence16:00
MrWuwtf16:01
MezMrWu: Want one of the sims?16:01
MrWuthat or the location of the place where I can get one16:01
Mezthe £5 (5 pounds) for the month is an internet order thing.16:01
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Mezbut - to buy a T-Mobile Sim is £1016:02
Mezthen data charges on top.16:02
zerokjezdez: ping16:02
MezIf anyone wants the SIMs, let me know sooner rather than later ;)16:02
MrWuMez: mmm, if you have one that you could lend me, that would be nice16:03
SafPlusPlusI guess, I'll manage...16:03
MrWuI prefer to give you the 10 pounds than giving them to t-mobile16:04
MrWu:)16:04
SafPlusPlusAnyhow, time to conserve battery power...16:04
MezMrWu: you can have it ;) You take it, register it online, pay £5 for a data goody bag, and wham, you're done16:04
MezMrWu: cool - well - I don't need money for it ;)16:04
Mezjust find me tomorrow... I'll probably be near a sound desk, as that's my job :)16:04
MrWuMez: I'll be around until friday morning, so I could return it to you thursday night or friday moorning (if you are on the ETAP)16:05
MezMrWu: I'm a native ;) I don't need it returned, seriously :) They're there for that reason :)16:05
MrWuahm, ok16:05
MrWu:)16:05
Mezfeel free to buy me a beer tho16:05
MrWusure!16:06
Mezhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/mezzle/4053701573/lightbox/ <-- I is the one on the right, with headphones around my neck16:06
MrWulet me cross my fingers and dance some voodo dance in order to load that website16:06
MetalJoeat least IRC is still working16:07
MrWuarff16:08
MrWuit doesn't load at all16:08
MezMrWu: no worries, I'll be able to get it for you ;)16:08
Mezoh, the picture?16:08
MrWuyep16:09
MezMeh, just ask any crew tomorrow for "Mez" - they'll know who it is ;)16:09
MrWubut don't worry about that either16:09
MrWuyep16:09
MrWuprobably we will meet tonight anyway16:09
MrWuand I can pay you that beer!16:09
MrWu;)16:09
Mezunfortunately not - I can't get there till tomorrow :)16:09
Mez(Work today, course tonight)16:09
MrWuoh16:09
MrWuhahhah16:10
MrWuI thought you were here already16:10
MrWuoki16:10
MrWuthe postgresql talk is about to begin!16:10
Meznope, had to fight to get the time off as I was called to help out at the last minute16:10
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MetalJoethis is supposed to be a talk about PostgreSQL isn't it?16:27
MetalJoe:-)16:27
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zerokinternetz seems to work :D16:29
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zeroktoo early :-/16:30
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MrWuMetalJoe: I think the guy is a little bit nervous16:36
MrWu:(16:36
Lunkwillstill waiting for the announced bits of the postgres talk..16:37
MetalJoeaye, I can imagine - I keep saying I'll do a talk, but always bottle out signing up16:37
MrWuit reminds me the first talk I gave about openbsd16:37
MetalJoeyeah, I've with databases for about 10 years - was hoping to find out mre about using postgresql with Python16:37
MrWuprobably one of the worst moments in my life16:37
MetalJoeheh16:37
MrWuMetalJoe: yep16:38
MrWuI thought it would be more code-oriented16:38
MetalJoeI teach snowboarding part time - think I nearly vomited twice within the first five mins of taking my first class16:38
MetalJoeaye16:38
MrWuwith examples/benefits/etc about the different connector avalilable16:38
MrWuavailable I meant16:38
MetalJoethat was what it said in the abstract16:39
MrWuprobably he has that too, but he is going to slow16:39
LunkwillMrWu: that's what I mean with "the announced" part.. think he's running out of time on that16:39
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MrWuLunkwill: agree16:40
MrWuthere we go!16:40
MrWu;)16:40
MetalJoewooho16:40
MetalJoeoooo16:40
Lunkwillgo fast! 5 minutes left16:40
MrWuhe had the irc client opened there16:41
MetalJoethat's more than 5 connectors16:41
MetalJoe;-)16:41
MrWuhe was waiting for us to ask for it!16:41
MetalJoetease16:41
MrWu5 minutes?16:41
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MetalJoemore like 20 mins16:41
MrWudoesn't it end at 15:00 ?16:42
MetalJoeyup16:42
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Lunkwillabstract says 45 minutes, but I see now that the schedule disagrees16:48
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MrWummm16:54
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MrWudoes anybody knows if there are power sockets in the adrian boult hall?16:54
* Lunkwill found one on row 516:55
MetalJoeone on same row as Guido, by me16:55
MetalJoeI'm just about to plug in16:55
MrWu:)16:55
regebroWhat twitter tags are people using, mostly?16:55
MrWuI'm on one of the sides, perhaps I can find something here16:55
MrWuregebro: #europython mostly16:56
regebrokthx16:56
MrWunp16:56
MetalJoeI knew I should've charged up last night ;-)16:56
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MetalJoeit's great being able to use Guido as a landmark16:57
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Fionahellooo?17:00
Fionayeah looks fine17:00
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MetalJoehello17:00
lvhHello :-)17:00
Fionajust checking i'm connected to the irc properly17:01
Fionayou know what the connection is like :)17:01
LunkwillMetalJoe: was pretty easy finding people on Saturday's social. Guido was there and his was the only face I recognized :)17:01
lvhWhere is the PSF meeting going to be? I can't find the meeting details on the website17:01
MetalJoeheh17:01
MetalJoeLunkwill :-)17:01
MS-At the BMI17:01
Fionawhere were the socials held this weekend?17:01
MS-About a 5 minute walk (at a slow walk) round the corner17:01
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lvhOkay, when is it?17:01
MS-7pm17:02
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lvhArgh17:02
MetalJoewent to the one at the homemade burger place yesterday17:02
lvhWell, thanks, but that's going to be difficult :D17:02
MS-To give everyone a chance to shut down stuff17:02
LunkwillSaturday's was down at the Green Room Café17:02
Fionano idea what's going on tonight or whenever17:02
Fionapeople need to decide :D17:02
MetalJoetempted to try the veggie one tomorrow, but I'm off for a curry tonight17:02
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MetalJoewelcome back Mr Cojones17:03
jezdezzerok: pong17:04
zerokjezdez: seems like my system simply provided the wrong information to virtualenv. now i went completely offline and all of a sudden virtualenv worked again :-P17:05
jezdezMez: do you still have a SIM for sale?17:05
jezdezzerok: heh17:05
jezdezI blame os x17:06
Fionaalways blame osx17:06
zerokjezdez: true17:06
Fionadoesn't matter what os you run17:06
Fionablame osx17:06
* MetalJoe tuts17:06
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MrWure17:07
MetalJoere17:07
MetalJoedid you find power?17:07
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MrWuMetalJoe: yep17:08
MrWu3 row17:08
Fionayou got the17:08
Fionatouch17:08
Fionayou got the17:08
Fionapoweeeer17:08
MrWuoh, and I've with me a power hub (continental) with2 free plugs, just in case anyone don't have a continental adapter and need some power17:09
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* MetalJoe has a flashback to the original Transformers movie17:10
Lunkwill"caffeine-induced bugs" :)17:12
MrWu:)17:13
MetalJoe:-)17:13
MetalJoeI'm hungry, so still thinking of the copy pasta from a couple of slides back17:14
* MrWu really likes the monster logo17:14
MrWu;)17:14
MetalJoeit's pretty cool17:14
FionaPYTHON SUCKS17:15
Fionadon't worry i'm lying17:15
MrWuFiona: XDDDDD17:15
Fionaeveryone suddenly reached for the keyboard17:15
MetalJoeburn her! ;-)17:15
Fionakinky17:15
* MetalJoe raises an eyebrow17:16
MrWuFiona: they are sending report to the PSP (Python secret Police)17:16
MrWuthey are waiting for you on the outside17:16
MetalJoePlease report to your local temrination centre, citizen17:16
MetalJoeor termination17:16
Fionait's okay i have a DS not a PSP17:16
LunkwillFiona: are you referencing last year's talk on how python sucks?17:16
MetalJoehehe17:16
Fionano, just saying17:17
Fiona(it does have some weird bits though)17:17
Fiona(don't tell guido)17:17
MetalJoeevery language does17:17
Lunkwill"python is the worst programming language in the world. except for all the others"17:17
lvhthere are two kinds of languages etc etc17:17
MetalJoeyeah17:17
MrWu"You can break it" <- of course you can!17:17
Fionathose that know binary and those that don't?17:17
lvhno the kinds that everyone complains about and the kind nobody uses17:18
lvhadmittedly the original author of the quote was talking about c++17:18
Fionac++ does suck17:18
MrWuFiona: I think it is "those you can write your code to seems a camel and those you can not"17:18
MrWu;D17:18
MetalJoeit does, yes17:18
Fionait's no php though17:18
* Fiona spits17:18
* MetalJoe drapes some garlic around his neck and picks up the stake17:19
* MrWu is beginning to think if these monster thing is similar somehow to Pylot17:20
Fionapython is a cute snake and the shortened version means the same thing as "pie"17:20
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Fionaphp has the word pee in it twice17:20
MetalJoemmmm pie17:20
MetalJoehee17:20
Fionajust saying17:20
Fionathe proof is in the pie etc17:20
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MetalJoeI'm hungry, pie references aren't helping17:20
Fionai didn't eat lunch17:22
Fionai can't eat spicy food17:22
MetalJoesurprised they didn't give an alternative17:22
Fionahonestlp17:22
Fionay17:22
Fionaalso all of the deserts had cream in17:22
MetalJoethere was fruit salad, wasn't there?17:23
Fionaif you're going to have alternatives don't have a single ingredient that's common to all of them17:23
MrWuyep17:23
Fionayeah but i ended up with a bowl of grapes17:23
MrWuthere was fruit IIRC17:23
MetalJoeI saw black forest gateau and that was me sorted17:23
MetalJoethe chili was a bonus17:23
Fionastill annoyed, the lunches were great last year17:23
MrWuFiona: perhaps ou could have asked for a rice-only "plate"17:23
MrWus/"plate"/"box"17:23
MetalJoeaye, not so good this year17:23
MrWu(dunno how to call it)17:23
MetalJoeplus no pastries or fruit juice for brekkie17:24
Fionai would have but they kinda just shoved it into my hand and that was that17:24
MetalJoeI don't drink coffee or "normal" tea :-(17:24
Fionathe tea is a joke too17:24
Fionamilk disappears so quickly17:24
MrWuMetalJoe: but there were cookies on the break this morning17:24
MetalJoeWHAT17:24
MetalJoebah, I missed them17:24
Fionabiscuits, please17:24
MrWu"You have better things to do" <- XDDD17:24
Fionayou're in england you know17:25
MetalJoeI'm going to bring some green tea or rooibos bags in tomorrow17:25
MrWuFiona: sorry :(17:25
Fionawill be ;)17:25
MrWuin spain we call them "galletas"17:25
MetalJoeI should start up a black market trade17:25
MetalJoe"Psst, want some green tea?"17:25
Fionai have some green hair dye with me, don't tick me off or you'll end up with it17:25
MrWuMetalJoe: hahahaha17:25
MetalJoefiona: uh oh17:25
FionaMetalJoe: big coat with tea bags pinned to the inside17:26
MetalJoeyup17:26
MetalJoeflasher mac17:26
Fionaexactly hehe17:26
MetalJoe"EuroPython delegate arrested in green tea bag incident"17:27
Fionanope17:27
MrWuwow, these guys are very organized, you know17:27
Fiona"Conference go-er arresting in teabagging incident"17:27
MetalJoetag team talk17:27
FionaMrWu: are you joking?17:27
MetalJoeheheh17:27
MrWusee how quick they switched from one to another!?17:27
MrWu;)17:27
zerokMrWu: :-)17:28
MetalJoeI can't believe I missed the oportunity for a teabagging comment17:28
Fionatooo slooow17:28
MetalJoeaye :-(17:28
MetalJoemy powers are weak today17:28
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MrWuFiona: pick the controller behind your seat17:28
MrWupress fast-forward17:29
MrWubut remember to press play again when we are on the pub17:29
MrWu;)17:29
Fionawill do17:29
Fionawhat talk is everyoe in?17:29
zeroktesting http in ...17:29
MrWuyupp17:30
MetalJoeI is in ur ABH, watching ur Monstrum17:30
MrWuthe little nice green monster17:30
MetalJoewonder if they do a t-shirt?17:30
MrWuyes, it would be cool17:31
MrWuiirc they said they've a plan to open source it17:31
MetalJoesweet17:31
MrWuso probably they will be a website with a lot of stuff like logos, banners, backgrounds, etc17:31
MrWu:)17:31
MetalJoethen again, the guy from BA last year was talking about doing that for Test-O-Matic, but it didn't happen :-(17:31
Fionai'm in python from the inside out17:31
Fionait's interesting17:31
MetalJoethat was my original choice - but I didn't want to lose my seat here :-)17:32
Fionahehe17:32
Fionahave you taken one of the plug bits?17:32
MetalJoealthough my arse has gone numb now17:32
MetalJoeyup17:32
Fionathat was my trick last year17:32
MrWuMetalJoe: one of the best ones last year (imho) was the Robot testing framwork17:32
MrWus/fram/frame17:32
MetalJoeI missed that one17:32
MrWuiirc the idea is pretty similar to this one17:33
MrWuoh, and the logo is very nice too17:33
MrWu;)17:33
MetalJoethere are a few out there now - wish I had all these things in my web front-end days17:33
FionaBACK IN MY DAY17:33
terrycojonesi'm sitting next to metaljoe and can confirm his arse has fallen fast asleep.17:33
FionaWE MADE WEBSITES WITH A BIT OF STRING AND A STICK17:34
MetalJoewe had to build them ourselves from Python 1.5.2 and sticky back plastic17:34
MetalJoehehehe17:34
MrWu:)17:34
MetalJoeterrycojones, that's snoring you can hear ;-)17:34
MrWuI can remember my first steps with mod_python publisher handler17:34
MrWuthat was a huuuge improvement17:34
MrWu;)17:34
FionaHEH mod_python17:34
MetalJoewe're still using mod_python at work :-(17:35
Fionaoh god17:35
MrWuMetalJoe: move on!17:35
MetalJoehence my lovely new Python servers still have to run 2.517:35
* MrWu still has some servers running mod_python17:35
MrWuI'm growing old you know17:35
MetalJoeMrWu, I've been pushing Django for the last two years17:35
MrWutoo lazy17:35
MrWuXDD17:35
MetalJoebut we really don't have time to replace all the internal tools pages just yet :-(17:35
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MetalJoeI was chuffed to finally get mod_wsgi on a server to run MoinMoin17:36
MrWuMetalJoe: recently I've been switching some of them to cherokee+uwsgi17:37
MrWuand it worked fine17:37
MetalJoeinteresting17:37
MrWuyep, not high-load ones though17:37
MetalJoeI'm kinda stuck in my ways with Apache - should check out these young upstarts17:38
Fionaapache is still cool17:38
MrWuless features17:38
MrWubut insignificant memory use17:38
Fionaespecially if you have to run php apps on the same servers17:38
MrWuso it depends on what you need17:38
MetalJoethey're trying to impose IIS on us :-(17:38
Fionafuck THAT17:38
MrWuMetalJoe: urrgggfff17:38
MetalJoehehe17:39
MrWuwtf!17:39
MrWubuilt-in ordered dictionaries???17:39
MrWuI didn't know about that!17:39
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MetalJoePython 3 rocks - really want to start using it for projects17:40
Fionaagreed17:40
Fionai rely on opengl and pygame at the moment and neither are really very python 3 friendly17:40
Fionayettt17:40
MetalJoeI've been playing around with pygame recently - pretty cool17:40
MrWuneither django is17:40
lvhIs there a rough estimate (like in half hours) how long the PSF meeting will last? From the previous minutes apparently it's like 1h30 or something17:40
MrWu(being django and zope my two power tools)17:40
Fionai've all but abandoned pygame for rendering17:41
MetalJoetrying to write a wargame with it, but got sidetracked by FluidDB17:41
Fionai now use it for window management and input, both of which it owns at17:41
MetalJoelvh, no idea but guess it won't be short17:41
MrWuwow, I'm feeling the jetlag now17:43
MrWuthe 1-hour difference with spain is crashing me17:43
MrWu(harharhar)17:43
MetalJoeheh17:43
MetalJoeI just haven't slept properly in ages17:44
MrWuthat's why you are still using mod_pythonn!17:44
MrWuXDD17:44
terrycojonesMrWu: you're from spain?17:44
MrWuterrycojones: yep17:44
Mezooh, 9 of you on IRC from the venues connection17:45
Mezdoes that mean wifi is fixed for once?17:45
Fionastaying in porting to python 317:45
Fionaanyone coming? hehe17:45
MetalJoeMez, I think it's more a testament to the IRC protocol17:45
MetalJoeI'm remaining in ABH17:46
MetalJoeI think17:46
MrWuMez: dunno, but It tooks ages to open any website in adrian boult hall for me17:46
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MrWuyep, I'm going to stay here for the selenium talk17:46
MrWusoemone told me it would be really interesting17:46
MezMrWu: that isn't barbie is it?17:47
Mezah, no, Raymond17:47
MrWuwhat?17:47
MrWuyep, raymond17:47
MetalJoebarbie?17:47
Mezgoto the Library Theatre and harass Zeth :)17:47
Lunkwillif I could split in two, I'd send one of me to the porting talk.17:47
MezMetalJoe: a local perlmonger who does a good talk on selenium17:47
MetalJoeah17:48
* MetalJoe remembers his Perl days17:48
Mezgoto the Library Theatre and harass Zeth :)17:48
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MrWuwe all have a past17:48
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Mezbtw, tomorrow morning's Keynote should not be missed - Bruce is an awesome speaker17:49
MS-If you do miss it, the videos will be online next week. :-D17:49
MrWujajajajaja17:49
MS-I'll be posting to the europython mailing list where (will be blip.tv)17:49
MezMS-: *chuckles* depending on which talk it is, we've got it online already from SBLUG17:50
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MrWuthe promo code is worldcup17:50
MrWuthat's some kind of a mention to us spanish, world cup winners?17:50
MS-Oh right, that'll save effort then - maybe I should lie in and steal a copy? :-D17:50
LunkwillMetalJoe: I try to forget my Perl days.17:50
Fionanext week michael?17:50
MetalJoeeven here I can't avoid football :-(17:50
MS-Fiona: Yep17:50
MetalJoeLunkwill, we all do17:50
Fionadidn't it take you like a month last year or something :D17:50
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terrycojones_MrWu: where are you based in Spain? I live in Barcelona, as does @esteve.17:54
MrWuterrycojones_: yep17:54
MrWuI know esteve from last year17:54
MrWuI'm from galicia17:54
MrWuterrycojones_: probably you both know marc garcia and pedro gracia17:54
MrWu:)17:55
MrWuwe should take some pictures of us having some beers and send them to both of them ;)17:55
terrycojones_MrWu: the first rings a bell.17:55
MrWusure it does, marc always does ;)17:55
Fionahe sounds hot17:56
MrWuterrycojones_: I was with marc back in 2008 on the djangocon17:56
MrWuterrycojones_: does esteve came this year too?17:57
terrycojones_MrWu: yes17:57
terrycojones_esteve is hot too!17:57
Fionahehe17:58
MezFiona: I thought you had a bf ? :P17:58
Fionayeah he's with me atm17:58
Mezyeah, thats what I thought ;) :P17:59
Meztsk tsk17:59
Fionassh he's not in irc :P17:59
MrWuFiona: XDDDDDD17:59
Mezah, I'll have to tell him tomorrow ;)17:59
MezFiona: dare I put the big twitter screen back up tomorrow?17:59
Mezor are you going to spam the crap outta it again ?17:59
Fionado it mez18:00
MetalJoehehe18:00
Fionai promise not to spam it18:00
MetalJoeyeah, bring back the feed18:00
Mezyou said that last year ;)18:00
MrWuyeees18:00
Fionai will only post useful and meaningful twits18:00
MetalJoenot that I use Twitter18:00
MrWuthis year I *even* have a twitter account!18:00
MrWuhahaha18:00
MezI'll see if I can find a suitable laptop.18:00
MetalJoeyou kids and your new fangled microblogging18:01
Fionayeah we need because our attention spam is v18:01
MrWuMetalJoe: kid who?18:01
MrWu;)18:01
* MetalJoe realises he sounds older than his 34 years18:01
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MezFiona: that wasn't 140 chars :P18:01
FionaI CAN PRETEND ALRIGHT18:01
Fionamez are you even here? i haven't seen you all day18:02
MezI got asked at the last minute to help out.18:02
MezSo I hads to be at work today18:02
MetalJoeI never knew Fit and Selenium were related18:02
Fionawork???18:02
* Fiona lols18:02
Mezyes.18:02
Mezbecause today was our sprint plannign day, which I'm needed to be here for18:03
Mezit's also the day when I fix crap that's gone wrong.18:03
MezSo, I'm in from tomorrow18:03
Fionacoo18:03
MrWuMez: I don't know why you can't be here18:03
Mezarmed with camera, laptop, and bag o wires :P18:03
MrWuyou can use the wifi for video confenrence18:03
MrWuoh.. wait, perhaps not!18:03
MrWu;)18:03
MetalJoeASCII video, maybe... with heavy lossy compression ;-)18:04
MezMrWu: *chuckles* nah - need to be hear.18:04
Mezand then I've got a course tonight *sigh*18:04
MrWuMez: using aalib or libcaca or whatever (don't remember the name)18:04
Mezdon't worry Fiona, I'll steal hugs tomorrow18:05
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MS-Talks videoed today: Talks  recorded today at Europython: unittest, pypy, embedding python in C++  systems,20:35
MS-porting to python 3, py.test, testing panel, idiomatic  python, glashammer, ghana VAT, silva20:35
MS-templating, django &semantic  web, more semantic web, open data20:35
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