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ThomasWaldmann | is it really only 20..23 degrees celsius these days in birmingham? | 11:42 |
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ThomasWaldmann | in sw germany, we currently have > 35 deg. | 11:43 |
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aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: hah, *only* | 12:46 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: so, you will be in europy? | 12:46 |
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ThomasWaldmann | aa_: how much at your place? | 12:49 |
ThomasWaldmann | yes, I'll be there | 12:49 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: it's pouring with rain all over england today | 12:49 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: cool, any moin-related activities? | 12:49 |
ThomasWaldmann | we have 10y anniversary and sprints, see http://moinmo.in/EuroPython2010 | 12:50 |
aa_ | haha, that's so cool 10 years! | 12:51 |
ThomasWaldmann | maybe also some informal moin talking and status update | 12:51 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: get some good advertising, I am sure most people don't know that moin is so nice these days | 12:51 |
ThomasWaldmann | you mean what we work on in moin2? | 12:52 |
aa_ | yes | 12:52 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: I am a long time python dev, and until chatting to you relatively recently, I had no idea moin had improved since 2004 when I last used it | 12:53 |
aa_ | (ok that is just an anecdotal evidence, but still, i am sure I am not alone) | 12:53 |
ThomasWaldmann | what kind of "advertising" do you think of? | 12:54 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: the best advertising, showing people how awesome moin is | 12:54 |
aa_ | ThomasWaldmann: at least do a lightning talk of status updates | 12:55 |
ThomasWaldmann | ok, I'll try | 12:55 |
aa_ | or maybe "Why you should have a look at Moin these days" | 12:56 |
ThomasWaldmann | ... as a python developer :) | 12:56 |
aa_ | right, that's more poignant | 12:56 |
ThomasWaldmann | not so much as a end-user wanting to use moin2 in production :D | 12:56 |
_dboddie | The "State of the Moin" address by ThomasWaldmann. | 13:37 |
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ThomasWaldmann | hrhr | 13:58 |
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* _dboddie had almost forgotten about the IRC meeting today. | 18:28 | |
* paul_boddie will probably return home for the meeting. | 18:30 | |
zeth | Hi all | 19:03 |
zeth | I am trying to remember it | 19:03 |
zeth | Brain is a bit leaky at the mo | 19:03 |
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zeth | Hello all | 19:51 |
Joe202 | hi zeth | 19:54 |
zeth | How are you? | 19:58 |
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moreati | Whoops, I just joined #<my password> | 20:00 |
_dboddie | Your password is "europython"? ;-) | 20:01 |
moreati | nope it was paremptive | 20:01 |
Joe202 | zeth: Well, thanks. Last day of being a teacher tomorrow. You OK? | 20:01 |
moreati | Who are we waiting for? | 20:04 |
zeth | Joe202: what are you going to be afterwards? Do you know already or are you going to take a break? | 20:04 |
zeth | Hello moreati! | 20:04 |
Joe202 | zeth: Working for Nationwide BS | 20:05 |
zeth | oh right | 20:05 |
zeth | what as? | 20:06 |
zeth | a programmer? | 20:06 |
moreati | zeth, evenin | 20:06 |
zeth | or as a banker? | 20:06 |
zeth | (are building society people still called bankers?) | 20:06 |
Joe202 | zeth: Mixture, more programmer, but with a finance slant. | 20:06 |
zeth | cool | 20:07 |
zeth | I am still working for University of Birmingham | 20:07 |
zeth | things are going well | 20:07 |
zeth | but I have gone from being part-timer to full timer | 20:07 |
zeth | so adjustment in my own life | 20:07 |
Joe202 | I've been teaching part-time this year, with the rest looking for new job | 20:08 |
zeth | You didn't like teaching? | 20:08 |
Joe202 | 5 years was enough | 20:10 |
_dboddie | Looks like there's an agenda for today: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100715 | 20:10 |
zeth | What ages were you teaching? | 20:10 |
Joe202 | 11 to 18 | 20:11 |
Joe202 | Maths | 20:11 |
moreati | Looks like no one else is appearing,shall we begin? | 20:11 |
zeth | Joe202: Any horror story you can share while we are waiting for the others to drift i? | 20:11 |
zeth | moreati: no pinner? | 20:11 |
Joe202 | zeth: No pinner! | 20:12 |
Joe202 | Are you thinking of teaching at some stage? | 20:12 |
moreati | he's not joining us | 20:12 |
zeth | moreati: okay | 20:13 |
paul_boddie | As long as we can reasonably answer some of the questions on the agenda, he doesn't need to be here. | 20:13 |
zeth | Joe202: not teenagers no | 20:13 |
zeth | Joe202: maybe Uni students | 20:13 |
moreati | I think I can cover most | 20:13 |
zeth | moreati + (years * n) == pinner | 20:13 |
Joe202 | zeth: I've also taught adults a bit - much saner, they*want* to be there. | 20:13 |
moreati | #startmeeting | 20:14 |
zeth | PRESENT | 20:14 |
Joe202 | PRESENT | 20:14 |
moreati | PRESENT | 20:14 |
moreati | TOPIC Apologies | 20:14 |
paul_boddie | PRESENT | 20:15 |
moreati | RichardTaylor and pinner sent theies | 20:15 |
moreati | *theirs | 20:15 |
moreati | TOPIC Talks and Scheduling | 20:15 |
moreati | The only pending change of which I'm aware is removal of Jasper Spaans' talk | 20:16 |
moreati | Any others? | 20:16 |
zeth | none from me | 20:16 |
Joe202 | nor me | 20:16 |
moreati | ACTION Okay,I'll remove Jasper this evening and make sure some A3 timetables are printed | 20:17 |
_dboddie | PRESENT | 20:17 |
moreati | Johnathon Hartley has already sent emails asking for tutorial tutees to put their name against tutorials | 20:18 |
moreati | Anything else on scheduling? | 20:18 |
fuzzyman | PRESENT | 20:19 |
fuzzyman | but actually absent for another few minutes... sorry - brb :-( | 20:19 |
Joe202 | i don't think I got an email as a tutorial attendee - he has blogged though | 20:19 |
moreati | Joe202, it would have been today with the subject "EuroPython tutorial attendees : please sign up for your tutorials" | 20:20 |
zeth | Do we have a printed book this year? | 20:20 |
moreati | The same instructions as the blog post, please add your name to the wiki page of the tutorial you'll attend | 20:20 |
zeth | Or do delegates read the abstracrs online? | 20:21 |
zeth | Or do delegates read the abstracts online? | 20:21 |
moreati | zeth, I don't think so, online only | 20:21 |
zeth | cool | 20:21 |
paul_boddie | Unless Yusdi and John sorted something out, I know nothing of a printed booklet. | 20:21 |
zeth | more flexible anyway | 20:21 |
zeth | less trees wasted also | 20:21 |
moreati | TOPIC Sponsorship | 20:22 |
Joe202 | Yes, did get one, sorry. | 20:22 |
moreati | We've got all the sponsors we're going to get, we must now make sure they pay us. | 20:22 |
moreati | Anything else on this? | 20:23 |
_dboddie | I've tried to get Nokia to sponsor us, but I need to talk to John to get further, I think. | 20:23 |
_dboddie | I'm assuming that Richard has the signage sponsorship in hand. | 20:23 |
moreati | _dboddie, please do so tommorrow morning | 20:23 |
_dboddie | moreati: OK. | 20:23 |
moreati | ACTION _dboddie to talk with pinner regarding Nokia sponsorship | 20:24 |
moreati | TOPIC Registration | 20:24 |
Joe202 | _dboddie: Signage should be sorted. | 20:24 |
moreati | We have 380 attendees, and at this point we'll probably leave the registration page open and use it for those registering at the oor | 20:26 |
moreati | *door | 20:26 |
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zeth | moreati: are we going to block hotels on it? | 20:26 |
_dboddie | moreati: Sounds like a lot of late registrations. | 20:26 |
paul_boddie | I guess the only impact of leaving it open is on things like numbers for catering, conference dinner, and related planning stuff. | 20:27 |
moreati | zeth, hotel registrations has closed | 20:27 |
zeth | grand | 20:27 |
zeth | thanks moreati | 20:27 |
moreati | zeth, john did it | 20:27 |
zeth | paul_boddie: a significant minority of people don't turn up for conference dinner anyway, so extras won't be big problem I think | 20:28 |
zeth | as long as they eat normal foods | 20:28 |
moreati | paul_boddie, yes, we can't guarantee late registrants a t-shirt or dinner place | 20:28 |
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moreati | Anyhting else on this topic? | 20:28 |
moreati | Hi contrary Mary | 20:29 |
zeth | 5-10% of people go to bed early, go out somewhere or have gone home already by the time of the dinner | 20:29 |
contrary | Hi sorry I am late. | 20:29 |
zeth | there is always the odd empty seat | 20:29 |
moreati | contrary, np | 20:29 |
moreati | TOPIC Accomodation | 20:29 |
moreati | Hotel bookings have no been closed, and deposits to the hotels sent. All delegates who've not already booked a hotel room must make their own arrangements | 20:30 |
moreati | If asked, please direct people to the hotel list | 20:30 |
moreati | http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/ | 20:31 |
paul_boddie | I mentioned this in the blog post about late registration. | 20:31 |
moreati | and the map http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104670010414967360724.0004394ea19c66425808f&om=1&ll=52.477057,-1.906376&spn=0.011301,0.018029&source=embed | 20:31 |
moreati | paul_boddie, brill | 20:31 |
moreati | I'll also tweet it | 20:31 |
moreati | ACTION moreati to publicise hotels list for last minute bookers | 20:32 |
moreati | Anything else on accomodation? Also poke me if I'm going too fast/slow | 20:32 |
zeth | all good, next | 20:33 |
fuzzyman | hello all | 20:34 |
fuzzyman | really sorry I'm so late | 20:35 |
moreati | TOPIC Socials | 20:35 |
zeth | hi fuzzyman | 20:35 |
contrary | Zeth, Jutta, Sheila and yours truly did a browse around the Mailboox and they have lots of eating drinking places | 20:35 |
moreati | Apart from the conference dinner, and Mary's partners programme, we've not yet organised anything | 20:35 |
zeth | Well I think for sat, there are few people so we can do something easier | 20:36 |
zeth | i.e. go to the mailbox as contrary suggests | 20:36 |
zeth | sunday we want something drop-in-able | 20:36 |
Joe202 | http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/ has been suggested - looks good to me | 20:36 |
zeth | Joe202: has no food | 20:36 |
moreati | zeth could you ask the walkabout bar for Mon eve | 20:36 |
contrary | need food | 20:36 |
zeth | moreati: yep | 20:36 |
Joe202 | OK | 20:36 |
contrary | are there any wetherspoons around | 20:36 |
moreati | Joe202, wellington will be good for Sat, bar the food | 20:37 |
zeth | We could go to the burger place beforehand | 20:37 |
moreati | contrary, yes on Broad Street. | 20:37 |
Joe202 | After food? | 20:37 |
zeth | or similar | 20:37 |
contrary | i bet you have vouchers again zeth! | 20:37 |
zeth | On Sunday, we should go for the pub food | 20:37 |
zeth | contrary: I have two | 20:37 |
moreati | Keep in mind capacity, we'll have >200 in tow from Mon onwards | 20:37 |
moreati | ACTION Zeth to contact walkabout pub | 20:38 |
zeth | On sunday we will have two groups, the tutorial people and people who are arriving at any time. A pub would be good for this | 20:38 |
Joe202 | Wo't people self-organise to some edxtent? | 20:38 |
moreati | Joe202, to some extent yes | 20:38 |
zeth | Joe202: you haven't seen our delegates then :) | 20:38 |
contrary | Organise - Europython Delegates - oxymoron | 20:38 |
paul_boddie | Usually, people split into smaller groups towards the end, but it's different at the start. | 20:38 |
zeth | On Sunday, bar food, people can order their own from the bar | 20:38 |
zeth | when they arrive | 20:39 |
contrary | Need to pick a pub then | 20:39 |
moreati | contrary, hence my walkabout suggestion | 20:39 |
Joe202 | Local knowledge useful here ... | 20:39 |
zeth | well lets save the walkabout for mon | 20:39 |
zeth | if they are free of course | 20:39 |
moreati | sorry , confused myself | 20:39 |
paul_boddie | Walkabout didn't seem that great last year, but maybe my elevated tastes are different from everybody else's. ;-) | 20:40 |
fuzzyman | not brilliant but adequate | 20:40 |
zeth | paul_boddie: that is true, but they have a basement you can book for free | 20:40 |
zeth | it is a non-hassle option for us | 20:40 |
zeth | if it is sunny people can go onto the balcony | 20:40 |
moreati | paul_boddie, it's one step up from McDonalds, but it has the capacity | 20:40 |
paul_boddie | I'll probably be on the PSF track on Monday, anyway. | 20:40 |
zeth | oh yeah | 20:40 |
zeth | good point | 20:40 |
paul_boddie | Don't know if I should have mentioned that. ;-) | 20:41 |
moreati | paul_boddie, at 8pm? | 20:41 |
zeth | what time is the PSF starting and ending? | 20:41 |
zeth | most people here are PSF | 20:41 |
zeth | and it is not a secret | 20:41 |
paul_boddie | There's a meeting after the conference hours plus possible pub/restaurant activity. | 20:41 |
zeth | 19pm | 20:42 |
zeth | sorry | 20:42 |
zeth | 19:00 | 20:42 |
zeth | the PSF can join the non-PSF afterwards? | 20:42 |
zeth | moreati: any idea how long we have the BMI booked for? | 20:43 |
moreati | zeth, on the Sunday. We don't AFAIK | 20:43 |
zeth | BMI is for monday | 20:44 |
zeth | for the PSF meeting | 20:44 |
zeth | ? | 20:44 |
zeth | I thought we had BMI at 7pm for PSF | 20:44 |
fuzzyman | the PSF meeting is on monday right | 20:44 |
moreati | zeth, that one passed me by | 20:44 |
fuzzyman | so is anything booked for sunday evening? I didn't think so | 20:44 |
moreati | nothing is booked for Sunday evening. | 20:45 |
fuzzyman | right | 20:45 |
zeth | So I think the BMI we have the whole evening | 20:45 |
zeth | and the BMI might have a bar | 20:45 |
zeth | so maybe the PSF people won't leave | 20:45 |
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zeth | So the way i see it shaping up is | 20:46 |
zeth | Sat we go for burger or something then real ale | 20:46 |
fuzzyman | what time? | 20:46 |
zeth | Sun some pub/weatherspoons were people can turn up at ay time | 20:46 |
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zeth | Monday is walkabout | 20:46 |
contrary | Sunday perhaps a pub near to Zeths favourite burger bar | 20:47 |
zeth | not favourite | 20:48 |
zeth | I just like it because I always seem to eat free | 20:48 |
fuzzyman | hah | 20:48 |
moreati | zeth sounds good | 20:48 |
zeth | so | 20:49 |
zeth | let me back up a sec | 20:49 |
zeth | wed is the dinner | 20:49 |
moreati | yes | 20:49 |
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zeth | Sunday needs to be somewhere that people can drop in | 20:50 |
zeth | the walkabout might be better for sun | 20:50 |
zeth | what's the nearest pub food type place to the etap? | 20:50 |
contrary | And once a decision is made it can be blogged, tweeted and put on the A3 FAQ sheets | 20:50 |
moreati | zeth, we don't want to use the walkabout on sun because it was the larger capacity. | 20:50 |
contrary | I think they are asian restaurants, from memory | 20:51 |
moreati | For Sun we could use something on Brindley Pl or Wotsit's Hill | 20:51 |
moreati | Bennetts Hill | 20:51 |
contrary | good idea moreati | 20:51 |
zeth | No way to Bennets Hill | 20:51 |
Alex__ | Hello, sorry being late.. Just wanted to come to see if you still needed volunteers | 20:51 |
zeth | the walkabout might be better for sunes | 20:51 |
zeth | opps | 20:51 |
zeth | pressed up button | 20:51 |
zeth | Alex__: yes we do | 20:52 |
zeth | Bennetts still haunts me | 20:52 |
zeth | how about | 20:52 |
zeth | on sunday | 20:52 |
zeth | we just go to the weatherspoons next to the Hippodrome | 20:52 |
moreati | You mean in Paradise Forum? | 20:52 |
Alex__ | We will arrive sunday and be there till Sunday, so you can count on me for whichever tasks you have left. No special preference | 20:52 |
contrary | the beauty of wetherspoons is the beer is cheaper and they have a standard meat and veg'n menu | 20:53 |
zeth | the problem | 20:53 |
contrary | what is the problem? | 20:53 |
paul_boddie | Alex__: they're all discussing very local stuff at the moment, like where to eat and drink. :-/ | 20:54 |
moreati | zeth, just book the Walkabout for Mon. We'll decide Sat and Sun with the tutees over the weekend | 20:54 |
zeth | is that people i the real world are talking at me at the same time | 20:54 |
zeth | so the weatherspoons can get busy | 20:54 |
contrary | hi Jutta | 20:54 |
zeth | and are not so big | 20:54 |
zeth | and might just throw us out if we turn up with 100 people | 20:54 |
zeth | didn't that happen at one of the lugradios | 20:55 |
contrary | perhaps if we warned them beforehand | 20:55 |
zeth | but the weatherspoons next to the hippodrome is close to ETAP | 20:55 |
zeth | closer than broad street | 20:55 |
zeth | okay | 20:55 |
zeth | so lets come back to it | 20:56 |
zeth | as moreati said | 20:56 |
moreati | okay, moving on | 20:56 |
zeth | I still like the mailbox idea | 20:56 |
fuzzyman | phoning in advance sounds like a very good idea | 20:56 |
zeth | One thing | 20:56 |
moreati | TOPIC Infrastructure | 20:56 |
zeth | we need a volunteer or crew member who is not in PSF | 20:56 |
zeth | preferable local | 20:56 |
zeth | or at least UK | 20:56 |
zeth | who can be the name I give to walkabout | 20:56 |
fuzzyman | tartley | 20:57 |
fuzzyman | contrary | 20:57 |
contrary | ok | 20:57 |
moreati | except use their real world names... | 20:57 |
fuzzyman | hehe | 20:57 |
contrary | i will defnitely not be in the "psf", whatever that is | 20:57 |
zeth | it is like the masons | 20:57 |
fuzzyman | the python secret foundation | 20:57 |
contrary | tell me what you want me to do | 20:58 |
fuzzyman | I have to go folkd | 20:58 |
fuzzyman | *folks | 20:58 |
fuzzyman | I'm really sorry | 20:58 |
moreati | fuzzyman, np | 20:58 |
moreati | Infrastructure. We've hired PA and mics for the ABH and Recital Halls. | 20:59 |
moreati | Rhubarb are out of the picture at the moment, we fell out of contact. | 20:59 |
zeth | ( contrary I will, basically you need to go there on Monday and say "we are here") | 20:59 |
zeth | (on monday evening) | 20:59 |
contrary | zeth: ok | 21:00 |
moreati | Network gear is installed | 21:00 |
moreati | Power strip stocks have been replenished | 21:00 |
zeth | The Rhubarb must have all got eate by a feral cat or something | 21:00 |
moreati | Mez will be joining us from Tues to help with recording, until then we muddle through | 21:01 |
paul_boddie | http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Talk_audio_recording | 21:01 |
moreati | To save costs we won't be having PA in the other, smaller rooms. | 21:02 |
paul_boddie | There should be some instructions on what people have to do (1) when chairing sessions and wiring up presenters, and (2) when archiving the audio for the day. | 21:02 |
moreati | RIchardtaylor should be taking car of that as Session Chairs Chair | 21:03 |
paul_boddie | Yes, but what about (2)? | 21:03 |
zeth | The SD cards will basically hold enough for a day | 21:04 |
zeth | then we just bung them all onto a laptop | 21:04 |
zeth | and/or upload them to the server | 21:04 |
moreati | paul_boddie, ditto he tells them (probably) Give all the recording gear to $Bob, $Bob copys data off | 21:04 |
zeth | we will worry about publishing them later | 21:04 |
zeth | $Bob defaults to zeth but will delegate it at first opportunity | 21:05 |
moreati | paul_boddie, okay? | 21:06 |
zeth | We lost ciaran our super audio dude, but I will keep half an eye to try to get the thig started | 21:06 |
zeth | unless $Bob is being set to paul_boddie ? | 21:06 |
zeth | the recorders may even hold several days on a card | 21:06 |
paul_boddie | I'm fine with whatever people suggest, but if you need people to do stuff, that's why we've volunteered: to save the one guy who knows what to do from being swamped with a bunch of tasks. | 21:06 |
zeth | I can't remember | 21:06 |
moreati | $Bob is dynamic until Tues, from then $Bob = 'Mez" | 21:07 |
zeth | okay we can sort out things like that on sat | 21:07 |
zeth | and mon | 21:07 |
zeth | the recorders are very easy to use once setup | 21:07 |
zeth | next topic? | 21:07 |
moreati | yup | 21:07 |
moreati | TOPIC Publicity | 21:08 |
moreati | I've nothing to say. Keep Tweeting and mailing. | 21:08 |
moreati | Anyone? | 21:09 |
paul_boddie | Yes, there'll be a blog post about volunteer stuff once we | 21:10 |
paul_boddie | have decided when that'll happen. | 21:10 |
Joe202 | Can we recruit volunteers at the event? | 21:11 |
moreati | When exactly waht will happen? Final prep work will happen throughout the day tomorrow from (let's say) 10:00 | 21:11 |
moreati | Joe202, hell yes | 21:12 |
moreati | paul_boddie, does that answer your question? | 21:13 |
paul_boddie | Well, what needs to be done? I guess there's stuff like sorting out badges, attendee packs/bags, plus venue preparation. When is the conservatoire being used? | 21:14 |
moreati | paul_boddie, we're packing, doing badges and generally running around. We don;t get into the Conservatoire until 0800 on Saturday, at which point whoever is present will be asked to carry this, poke that in there, stick that up etc. | 21:17 |
moreati | Bag stuffing is on Sunday afternoon | 21:18 |
moreati | (and is in the timetable) | 21:18 |
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paul_boddie | OK. There was some doubt as to whether the timetable is accurate, so I can at least point to the timetable now. | 21:18 |
zeth | okay can we rattle through the rest, I am being told off | 21:18 |
moreati | zeth, yes please | 21:18 |
moreati | TOPIC volunteers | 21:19 |
moreati | I think we've covered this. | 21:19 |
moreati | paul_boddie, anything to add/ask? | 21:19 |
zeth | The wiki page on this is great | 21:20 |
zeth | if anyone asks about it, we can refer them to it | 21:20 |
zeth | One thing however | 21:20 |
zeth | this part: http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#General_Helpers | 21:20 |
zeth | The General helpers table | 21:20 |
paul_boddie | I guess I'll just point to the Wiki page. | 21:21 |
zeth | it kind of implies that we want only 2 general helpers at a time | 21:21 |
zeth | which is not true | 21:21 |
zeth | we want as many as poss | 21:21 |
zeth | can the table be expanded by a wiki expert? | 21:21 |
zeth | The main thing is at the start and end of each day | 21:21 |
zeth | I also want everyone to be clear that we do not look after people's suitcases | 21:22 |
Joe202 | I'll expand the table | 21:22 |
zeth | not the general delegates | 21:22 |
zeth | crew crap can go into crew area | 21:22 |
zeth | but suitcase watching pollutes the crew areas as people hanging around in/out after their suitcases | 21:23 |
moreati | okay | 21:23 |
zeth | we also are not insured | 21:23 |
moreati | TOPIC Next meeting | 21:23 |
zeth | for people's private stuff | 21:23 |
zeth | Sat 8am? | 21:23 |
moreati | There is no next meeting, see you all next week | 21:23 |
moreati | TOPIC AOB | 21:23 |
zeth | Did I mention we don't take the general delegates luggage? | 21:24 |
zeth | :-) | 21:24 |
zeth | Okay thanks moreati et all | 21:25 |
zeth | good night | 21:25 |
moreati | Night all | 21:25 |
moreati | #endmeeting | 21:25 |
Joe202 | bye | 21:26 |
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