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| dreimark | hi | 18:06 |
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| dreimark | can one explain the meaning of Hotel (night of Friday 16th July) | 18:07 |
| dreimark | is it meant to be con Friday nigth to Saturday? | 18:07 |
| dreimark | (because last year I did it wrong I had one night too much) | 18:08 |
| _dboddie | dreimark: Can you point me to the page where it says this? | 18:08 |
| dreimark | http://www.europython.eu/registration/ | 18:08 |
| _dboddie | dreimark: Night of Friday means the night between Friday and Saturday. | 18:09 |
| dreimark | ok thx | 18:09 |
| _dboddie | As far as I know. :-) | 18:09 |
| _dboddie | But it usually means that. | 18:09 |
| _dboddie | There should be Python slice notation for the hotel booking. :-) | 18:10 |
| dreimark | yeah | 18:10 |
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| paul_boddie | Just read dreimark's question in the logs. Good question! :-) | 18:19 |
| dreimark | we will see | 18:38 |
| dreimark | bbl | 18:38 |
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| Wu | hi ppl | 18:55 |
| paul_boddie | Hello! | 18:56 |
| Wu | I forgot about the irc channel completely | 19:01 |
| * _dboddie considers another cup of tea. | 19:04 | |
| _dboddie | It won't be as good as aa_'s tea, though. :-( | 19:04 |
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| contrary | I am doing this on my mobile. is anyone else there? | 19:09 |
| _dboddie | We're here. | 19:14 |
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| moreati | isn't the meeting at 1800 GMT, in 40 minutes? | 19:18 |
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| ghum | good evening | 19:48 |
| _dboddie | moreati: In 10 minutes from now... | 19:52 |
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| ghum | test | 19:57 |
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| zeth | Hello | 19:58 |
| pinner | hello All! | 19:58 |
| ghum | hello John | 19:58 |
| ghum | hello Zeth | 19:58 |
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| pinner | Hi Harald | 19:58 |
| pinner | let's ee who's here... | 19:59 |
| pinner | #startmeeting | 19:59 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 19:59 |
| ghum | PRESENT | 19:59 |
| pinner | zeth: are you real or virtual? | 20:00 |
| _dboddie | PRESENT | 20:00 |
| _dboddie | (with tea) | 20:00 |
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| zeth | PRESENT | 20:01 |
| pinner | I'd like to follow (more or less) the last agenda... | 20:01 |
| pinner | TOPIC Apologies | 20:02 |
| pinner | I've not received any... | 20:02 |
| fuzzyman | PRESENT | 20:03 |
| fuzzyman | (actually will be in 5 minutes - just got in - sorry) | 20:03 |
| pinner | TOPIC Registration | 20:03 |
| moreati | PRESENT | 20:03 |
| pinner | We have 95 delegates registered to date | 20:03 |
| pinner | so I think it's time to close Extar Early Bird | 20:04 |
| ghum | that is : scale back to normal early bird? | 20:04 |
| moreati | fine by me | 20:04 |
| _dboddie | Was there a deadline for that? | 20:04 |
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| DazWorrall | hello everyone :) | 20:05 |
| moreati | deadline for Early Bird is May 10, EEB was February | 20:05 |
| _dboddie | OK. | 20:05 |
| pinner | moreati: can you and I get together in the next couple of days to look at the budget & confirm rates? | 20:05 |
| pinner | Hello darren! | 20:05 |
| DazWorrall | PRESENT | 20:05 |
| moreati | pinner, yes. tomorrow 2 pm? | 20:05 |
| pinner | moreati: yes, 2.00pm is OK | 20:06 |
| paul_boddie | PRESENT | 20:06 |
| pinner | VOTE Change to Early bird rates for Registration this weekend, say Sunday 21st March | 20:07 |
| moreati | +1 | 20:07 |
| pinner | +1 | 20:08 |
| DazWorrall | +1 | 20:08 |
| ghum | +4 | 20:08 |
| ghum | +1 | 20:08 |
| DazWorrall | ghum = majority shareholder? :D | 20:08 |
| ghum | majority keymisser | 20:08 |
| zeth | +1 (or change earlier) | 20:08 |
| _dboddie | +1 | 20:09 |
| pinner | dazworrall: ghum has eaten too much blutwurst and it is making him too happy | 20:09 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 20:09 |
| pinner | DECISION Change to Early bird rates for Registration this weekend, say Sunday 21st March | 20:09 |
| pinner | TOPIC Talk Submissions | 20:10 |
| fuzzyman | aa_ and I have a testing panel which I don't think we have submitted yet | 20:10 |
| fuzzyman | and I will probably also submit a Silverlight talk | 20:10 |
| pinner | zeth: have the privacy issues been resolved to everyone's satisfaction? | 20:10 |
| zeth | yes | 20:11 |
| zeth | We have around 16 talks in the system | 20:11 |
| pinner | zeth: and how many talks have we now? | 20:11 |
| pinner | OK, and we know of several more to come... | 20:11 |
| zeth | yep | 20:11 |
| zeth | We are doing well I think | 20:12 |
| fuzzyman | Mark Ramm will submit a talk | 20:12 |
| fuzzyman | he is 85% certain he can come | 20:12 |
| fuzzyman | not sure if Brett Cannon or Raymond have officially submitted their talks either | 20:12 |
| pinner | I've asked Hilary mason of bit.ly to do a couple | 20:12 |
| fuzzyman | cool | 20:12 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: I expect RH will leave it until the last minute | 20:12 |
| _dboddie | About open spaces... | 20:13 |
| _dboddie | MrTopf suggested that we should have a day set aside for them - that worked well at the last Plone conference, apparently. | 20:13 |
| moreati | Brett and raymonds talks aren't there yet | 20:13 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: I think Brett was proposing to do just one talk, do you think that is enough if we are paying his expenses? | 20:13 |
| pinner | _dboddie: Already we have lost 0of space for Lightning Tlaks, do we need a dedicated Open Space day as well? | 20:15 |
| ghum | pinner: I have listened to Bretts Unladen Coconuts Talk at Pycon | 20:15 |
| pinner | s/lost 0of/lots of/ | 20:15 |
| _dboddie | pinner: Just a suggestion. | 20:15 |
| ghum | it was 45min | 20:15 |
| ghum | which was definitely to short | 20:15 |
| zeth | I think a day just for open space, with no parallel talks is over the top | 20:16 |
| ghum | so if it is only one talk, I suggest to go up to 90 or more minutes | 20:16 |
| zeth | However, I think there should be a room for one day, with other things going on in other rooms | 20:16 |
| zeth | 90 minute talk can be split into two | 20:16 |
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| zeth | intro to X and advanced X | 20:16 |
| ghum | I agree zeth | 20:17 |
| conch | PRESENT | 20:17 |
| ghum | or have a double-talk with break in between | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | sorry | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | I disappeared | 20:17 |
| pinner | If we have a room set aside for Open Space, people who want can use it as they like, regardless of other parallel talk sessions | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: do you think we should ask Brett to do more? | 20:17 |
| pinner | Hello Quentin | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: he is also doing a sprint and attending PSF / language summit | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | conch: hi | 20:17 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: OK, that soundes better, I'm just comparing with RH who really sings for his supper. I suggest we look when we have more talks in and ask Brett if he can fill a gap if needed. | 20:18 |
| fuzzyman | ok - fine | 20:19 |
| conch | fuzzyman: And hi to you!! | 20:19 |
| conch | pinner: hello again | 20:19 |
| fuzzyman | he has two talks on the import system if needed | 20:19 |
| fuzzyman | one general and one on implementing custom importers | 20:19 |
| fuzzyman | so kind of mid level and advanced | 20:19 |
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| pinner | IDEA I think further discussion on Invited Speakers and Open Space should wait until nearer the conf when we can see how the schedule is building. | 20:20 |
| fuzzyman | agreed | 20:20 |
| pinner | g'day Mary! | 20:20 |
| moreati | ditto | 20:20 |
| _dboddie | Agreed. | 20:21 |
| contrary | mary present and almost correct | 20:21 |
| DazWorrall | seems sensible - we might have the opposite 'problem' of too many submissions later on | 20:21 |
| DazWorrall | no need to worry about it now | 20:21 |
| pinner | s/IDEA/DECISION/ | 20:21 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: weren't some of us supposed to review talks already in the system? | 20:21 |
| zeth | well I think at some point that pinner will know exactly what rooms and time we have? | 20:21 |
| pinner | fux | 20:22 |
| fuzzyman | I thought there was going to be an email about it | 20:22 |
| zeth | Then we can start reviewing | 20:22 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: yes, but we did not expect a meeting quite so soon, I think... | 20:22 |
| zeth | Once we know how many hours of general talk rooms there are, we can start accepting talks | 20:22 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 20:22 |
| zeth | once we are full, we close the system | 20:22 |
| fuzzyman | reviewing talks is something I can fit in between other activities - so happy to do it | 20:22 |
| zeth | cool | 20:23 |
| zeth | We have me and Jonathan Hartley and fuzzyman at least | 20:23 |
| pinner | zeth: 4 rooms for 4 days, except that the last day is nearly all plenary | 20:23 |
| fuzzyman | if we think talks need amending then early feedback is good | 20:23 |
| zeth | so good size talk team | 20:23 |
| fuzzyman | Tartley is conspicuous by his absence | 20:23 |
| zeth | pinner: similar to what was sketched at PyWM? | 20:23 |
| pinner | DECISION Talk reviews to start | 20:23 |
| pinner | zeth: yes | 20:23 |
| zeth | ok cool | 20:23 |
| pinner | TOPIC Sponsorship | 20:24 |
| zeth | I will email tartley and fuzzyman and anyone else interested off list | 20:24 |
| zeth | to co-ordinate the start of talk reviews | 20:24 |
| pinner | The Brochure Revisions are going to the printer tomorrow | 20:24 |
| fuzzyman | aa_ and DazWorrall maybe interested in helping | 20:24 |
| fuzzyman | if we think more eyes is better :-) | 20:24 |
| pinner | zeth:we made a list of talk people in the last meeting... | 20:25 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: once there is an electronic brochure I will send a copy to my current company | 20:25 |
| fuzzyman | I'm not massively hopeful but good to try :-) | 20:25 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: should be by beginning of next week | 20:25 |
| fuzzyman | great | 20:25 |
| pinner | I have succeeded in speaking to the 'right person' at Microsoft | 20:26 |
| fuzzyman | *great* | 20:26 |
| fuzzyman | have we approached google yet? | 20:26 |
| DazWorrall | happy to lend an eye to the talk submissions :) | 20:26 |
| pinner | The conf is at the beginning of the MS financial year, so they have no budget yet. | 20:26 |
| fuzzyman | right | 20:27 |
| pinner | but they want a brochure and to be kept informed, so there's hope... | 20:27 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 20:27 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: better still, Google have approached us | 20:27 |
| fuzzyman | Yay! | 20:27 |
| fuzzyman | that makes a change | 20:27 |
| fuzzyman | Canonical? | 20:27 |
| pinner | so they are No 1 on the brochure list... | 20:28 |
| zeth | [old topic: pinner I will use that list and make sure everyone has logons] | 20:28 |
| fuzzyman | I know several employees of Canonical - and I know people who know Mark, but I don't have a direct in with the right department | 20:28 |
| fuzzyman | oh, Steve Holden said it is likely he will make it this year - something came up in Europe at just the right time for him | 20:28 |
| contrary | zeth: have sent you a pm | 20:28 |
| fuzzyman | we could approach him for a talk if we need more | 20:29 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: Barry Warsaw is the contact man at Canonical and has promised to try and do better for us this year. | 20:29 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: right - Barry is the person I know best there | 20:29 |
| fuzzyman | he will do his best for us - but we shouldn't be afraid to prod him | 20:29 |
| pinner | fuzzyman:P Also we know Jono well, but he is Community and they seem to keep Community and Company quite separate. | 20:30 |
| fuzzyman | right, although community sounds like it might be the right angle? Not that I know *anything* about how Canonical organises itself | 20:30 |
| pinner | fconatact with mark rarely seems to produce anything | 20:30 |
| fuzzyman | fair enough | 20:31 |
| zeth | Well mark did come to PyConUK 2008 | 20:31 |
| zeth | and his brother did come to EuroPython 2009 | 20:31 |
| pinner | I think as Barry is 1. the right person, and 2. a Python person, he is the best route | 20:31 |
| zeth | so they should have heard of us | 20:31 |
| pinner | but it won't hurt to try Steve Alexander, Jono Baqcon and Mark's PA as well | 20:32 |
| pinner | Brad Shuttleworth was one of the first to register for 2010, but I'm not sure if he has any influence with his brother | 20:32 |
| DazWorrall | Jono should help us publicise if nothing else - there's a lot of python in their recent opportunistic developer stuff (quickly, lernid et | 20:32 |
| DazWorrall | *etc | 20:33 |
| moreati | he tweeted us yesterday | 20:33 |
| DazWorrall | he might also want to come and pimp them out | 20:33 |
| pinner | OK, Sponsorship is progressing OK, subject to the Brochure coming out, and that's down to me... | 20:33 |
| fuzzyman | There is also Gustavo Niemeyer and Nicola Larosa who are Python people in Canonical if we want to turn up the pressure :-) | 20:34 |
| _dboddie | pinner: Quentin and I wanted to set up a call with you about sponsorship as well. | 20:34 |
| _dboddie | pinner: You may have seen the mail. | 20:34 |
| zeth | pinner: Brad does not work for canonical so probably not much | 20:34 |
| pinner | _dboddie: there's the sponsorship team conf call to set up, can we leave that to you and conch? | 20:34 |
| _dboddie | pinner: OK. | 20:35 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: it was those two people who let us down last year... | 20:35 |
| conch | pinner: OK | 20:35 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: hah, ok | 20:35 |
| pinner | TOPIC Accommodation | 20:35 |
| pinner | No progress in that I'm waiting for the accountant's opinion on the VAT situation | 20:36 |
| zeth | pinner: Did you get a chance to talk to the accountant bloke about if there is a way to not take a hit on the accomodation | 20:36 |
| zeth | ah okay | 20:36 |
| fuzzyman | have we lowered the price for new bookings? | 20:37 |
| pinner | and moreati and I have still to meet... (tomorrow, 2.00pm ;-) | 20:37 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: No, it seemed cleaner to make that change at thye same time as changing from EEB to EB | 20:37 |
| fuzzyman | EEB / EB ? | 20:37 |
| fuzzyman | ah | 20:38 |
| fuzzyman | got it | 20:38 |
| zeth | and hopefully we get the accountant's opinion too, so we don't take a hit with the new bookings if we can avoid it | 20:38 |
| zeth | get the opinion before setting new prices | 20:38 |
| zeth | for the rooms | 20:38 |
| pinner | zeth: s/bloke/lady/ and I have spoken to her and she is consulting HMRC for us (there have been recent changes) | 20:38 |
| zeth | nice | 20:39 |
| pinner | TOPIC Infrastructure | 20:39 |
| pinner | Over to conch... | 20:40 |
| conch | Well I posted quite a lot last time | 20:40 |
| conch | Not sure what I should cover this time | 20:40 |
| conch | We need to negotiate with the Conservatoire about arrangements | 20:41 |
| fuzzyman | if there is nothing to discuss that is a good thing... | 20:41 |
| pinner | conchy: well I guess the major item is putting in extra liens, especially at the BMI or CBSO centre | 20:41 |
| conch | Need to decide whether we are using the BMI | 20:41 |
| conch | and then put lines in | 20:41 |
| pinner | because taht affects which venue we use for sprints, and which one we book... | 20:41 |
| conch | Which venue do we prefer | 20:41 |
| conch | ?? | 20:41 |
| conch | Given that we can't use the BMI on a Sunday | 20:42 |
| pinner | So first we need toe stablish if the BMI will let us put a line in, oi not we will not be using them I guess. | 20:42 |
| pinner | so we need to talk with whatshisface | 20:43 |
| conch | OK I will approach the BMI - put me down for an action | 20:43 |
| conch | The other action for me is to talk to the Conservatoire to see if they will come to the party | 20:44 |
| conch | over the Adrian Boult and dead spots | 20:44 |
| conch | and access | 20:44 |
| pinner | conch: Apart from Sunday, I think the BMI is preferable, with a proper cafe and better selection of room sizes, and it's nearer the Conservatoire | 20:44 |
| moreati | and the reast of city centre | 20:45 |
| conch | OK I will put the emphasis on finding about the BMI's willingness to have extra lines and maybe some flying ethernet | 20:45 |
| pinner | and we can'r really use the CBSO Center on Friday, when they're working and hogging their interrnet connection | 20:45 |
| conch | Unless we put extra lines into the CBSO and they have a decent structured cabling system that | 20:46 |
| conch | they don't understand | 20:46 |
| zeth | [if the BMI works out well, we could consider doing PyConUK 2011 there] | 20:46 |
| pinner | also, we use the BMI and have a decent internet connection, we can use the theatre ther for talks | 20:46 |
| conch | OK step 1 find out about the BMI.... | 20:46 |
| pinner | zeth: we're doing FLOSSUK 2010 there | 20:46 |
| * paul_boddie is off quietly... | 20:47 | |
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| conch | Then we should make the BMI work anyway | 20:47 |
| pinner | DECISION conch to look at BMI and internet access | 20:47 |
| zeth | [When was FLOSSUK again?] | 20:48 |
| pinner | I think we can't really talk a lot more about infrastructure until all the internet access is sorted at BMI and Conservatoire | 20:48 |
| pinner | it affects the streaming especially | 20:48 |
| conch | Should we try and stream video?? | 20:49 |
| zeth | try to | 20:49 |
| pinner | conch: that may be over-ambitious, but I think Rhubarb want to have a go | 20:49 |
| pinner | TOPIC Partners' Programme | 20:50 |
| zeth | we can try but not promise too much | 20:50 |
| conch | maybe we could look at www.justin.tv | 20:50 |
| pinner | contrary: or whatever you'r calling it now... | 20:50 |
| contrary | nothing to update. hoping to have a chat with sheila and jutta today/tomorrow | 20:50 |
| contrary | zeth/pinner: please note! | 20:51 |
| pinner | contrary: please bear in mind social venues, eg for Friday and Saturday evenings | 20:51 |
| contrary | how many people usually attend | 20:51 |
| contrary | we dont want to go cosy if there are 10s | 20:52 |
| pinner | Lst yaer the Zagora had change hands, not for the better, and we could do with half-decent pub venue, difficult in that part of town at the weekend | 20:53 |
| contrary | ok. we will find one | 20:53 |
| pinner | contary: AFAIR ther were 50 or so on the first evning at the Zagora, and maybe 112 at PyConUK at the Athens (nd we don't want that again, either | 20:54 |
| contrary | thank you | 20:54 |
| contrary | any other places on the NOT list? | 20:54 |
| pinner | It seems that establishments with a belly dancer think that the dancer is a substitute for good service: it isn't | 20:55 |
| pinner | I don't think so | 20:55 |
| zeth | I agree with pinner about changing venues, but one thing that did work well is a set menu price, i.e. 15 per head or whatever, this means that there is no scrabbling around for money at the end | 20:55 |
| pinner | maybe we should get a barge... | 20:55 |
| ghum | < --- uninterested in belly dancers. | 20:56 |
| zeth | yay | 20:56 |
| matti | Hi. | 20:56 |
| contrary | Noted: belly dancers off the list | 20:56 |
| zeth | it is a good time of year for a barge | 20:56 |
| * matti so tired... | 20:56 | |
| pinner | hello matti, just at the right time! | 20:56 |
| * zeth hugs matti | 20:56 | |
| matti | Hi pinner. | 20:56 |
| _dboddie | matti: Hi. Just in time for the belly dancers... | 20:56 |
| * matti hugs zeth back. | 20:56 | |
| pinner | TOPIC Publicity | 20:56 |
| matti | Hahaha. | 20:56 |
| matti | What? ;] | 20:56 |
| matti | Teh Dancer from this place... | 20:57 |
| zeth | matti: ghum will do the belly dancing this year | 20:57 |
| matti | Oh. | 20:57 |
| zeth | no hang on... :-) | 20:57 |
| pinner | Poster has gone to the printer, should have the electronic version tomorrow | 20:57 |
| matti | ;D | 20:57 |
| contrary | jutta, mary, keith and sheila will hold auditions :-0 | 20:57 |
| pinner | No intention to ahve printed copies until we know who our Keynote speakers are | 20:57 |
| moreati | pinner, makes sense | 20:58 |
| pinner | so, publicity is happening, thanks to _dboddie and moreati, ther were 10 bookings today thanks to your postings | 21:00 |
| _dboddie | pinner: paul_boddie, actually. :-) | 21:00 |
| moreati | oh is that all :( | 21:01 |
| pinner | has everyone looked at the wiki publicity table? | 21:01 |
| fuzzyman | no | 21:01 |
| _dboddie | http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/Channels | 21:01 |
| DazWorrall | I hit a couple of the ubuntu lists, need to do more | 21:01 |
| fuzzyman | although I'm overdue a blog entry on EuroPython... (for what its worth) | 21:01 |
| fuzzyman | I'll do the IronPython mailing list | 21:01 |
| pinner | because if you haven't, you should, and maybe add yourselves... | 21:01 |
| moreati | also please take a look at http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/PressRelease tell me if there's anything you'd like changed/added - or feel free to edit yourself | 21:02 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: if you publicise EP as much as PyCon US, we should do well! | 21:02 |
| moreati | fuzzyman, I assume you'll be mentioning it in Bite of Python? | 21:03 |
| pinner | moreati: I think we should ahve something about the Partner's Programme if we haven't already, get it in people's minds from the start | 21:03 |
| moreati | pinner, righto | 21:03 |
| fuzzyman | moreati: I've mentioned EuroPython a few times in A Bit of Python | 21:04 |
| fuzzyman | hopefully we can do a focussed EuroPython episode | 21:04 |
| moreati | fuzzyman, apologies I missed it entirely | 21:04 |
| fuzzyman | I could record a specific interview as well | 21:04 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: would you be up for recording an interview on EuroPython? | 21:04 |
| pinner | In the last agenda we had "Waiting for the wider organisation team to help out", and thanks to paul_boddie, or should I say any_boddie, that's started to happen. | 21:06 |
| contrary | would rhubarb be up for putting something audio before hand | 21:06 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: if you must! | 21:06 |
| fuzzyman | only if you think it would be helpful... :-) | 21:07 |
| pinner | contrary: I think Rubard, and Outlaws, and maybe Ubuntu UK Podcast as well, we're well connected with them all. | 21:07 |
| pinner | s/Rubard/Rhubarb/ | 21:08 |
| _dboddie | It looks like Ciaran has been busy with the publicity, anyway. | 21:08 |
| moreati | outlaws and uukpc should have a mention in their next episodes | 21:08 |
| zeth | [I almost suggested Lugradio then I realised that I am old] | 21:08 |
| zeth | [tell the last time I listened to Linux podcast] | 21:09 |
| matti | zeth: ? ;] | 21:09 |
| pinner | I'm at UKUUG Spring conf in Manchester the week after next, so can do a Lightning Talk on EP while there | 21:09 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: are you doing ACCU this year? | 21:09 |
| _dboddie | Someone might want to get Mr. Bacon to mention EP on FLOSS Weekly. | 21:09 |
| fuzzyman | pinner: no, not this year | 21:10 |
| matti | I shall mention EPC on next DevOps meet-up as well. | 21:10 |
| matti | Plus, posters at work as usual. | 21:10 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: nor me, too expoensive if you're not a subsidised speaker | 21:10 |
| fuzzyman | yep | 21:10 |
| pinner | matti: good | 21:10 |
| pinner | we can all do things like this fairly easily, in signature blocks, tweeting, etc | 21:11 |
| matti | God almightly. I have never been so tired. Working almost non-stop since the weekend... | 21:11 |
| matti | pinner: Sure thing! :) | 21:11 |
| pinner | matti: it gets worse as you get older ;-) | 21:12 |
| matti | pinner: You mean, feeling tired or working all round the clock? ;] | 21:12 |
| pinner | matti: feeling tired | 21:12 |
| pinner | mattI; and less able to work around the clock | 21:13 |
| matti | I'd love to quit my job which sucks life out of me, and just sit in the garden with a glass of wine all day ;] | 21:13 |
| matti | ;D | 21:13 |
| pinner | I thnk we should post something to the list, urging people to publicise EP in their community and at their workplace | 21:14 |
| pinner | Any voulnteers? | 21:14 |
| matti | Good point. | 21:14 |
| _dboddie | The EP-improve list or the EP list? | 21:14 |
| pinner | _dboddie: Both? | 21:15 |
| _dboddie | I can send something... | 21:15 |
| matti | I shall also drop an announcement on the engineering DL at work. | 21:15 |
| _dboddie | I think PyCon Italia had a careers/job meeting open space-type-thing. Maybe a Python careers Open Space would be good. | 21:15 |
| pinner | maybe just EP list, if ep-improve people aren't doing anything already, they never will... | 21:15 |
| fuzzyman | I've sent emails to the IronPython, Python-ideas and Python-Win32 mailing lists | 21:15 |
| pinner | _dboddie: thanks | 21:16 |
| DazWorrall | anybody mailed the django list(s)? | 21:16 |
| fuzzyman | DazWorrall: not according to the publicity page: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/Channels | 21:17 |
| _dboddie | DazWorrall: You know you want to... | 21:17 |
| pinner | DazWorrall: looks like you may have volunteered ;-) but check the wiki page | 21:17 |
| DazWorrall | I'll do that then. Will see if any of the djugl people want to travel north :) | 21:17 |
| zeth | it is only 1:20 or something on the train | 21:17 |
| pinner | DazWorrall: it may be worth going to their meeting in 'The Smoke' | 21:18 |
| pinner | zeth and I did that with the London Python group before the first PyCon UK, just to prove that people North of Watford didn't necessarily have two heads | 21:19 |
| DazWorrall | not all of us ;) | 21:20 |
| moreati | pinner, but you reattached your extra head once you got back, right? | 21:20 |
| DazWorrall | is there a date for it? google-fu fails | 21:20 |
| pinner | Any more on Publicity? | 21:20 |
| moreati | not form me | 21:20 |
| pinner | moreati: I wouldn't be without it | 21:21 |
| pinner | DazWorral: you need to look on the python-uk list | 21:21 |
| pinner | TOPIC Next Meeting | 21:21 |
| contrary | sorry this is late, just search pyton on FB and found a group with 9800 fans. Has that been broadcast | 21:22 |
| pinner | Two weeks time would make it Tuesday 30th March | 21:22 |
| moreati | contrary, I created an event, didn't think of spamming a group. Doing so now | 21:23 |
| DazWorrall | 30th suits me | 21:23 |
| moreati | pinner, that will put it after next pywm sat mtg, so ideal | 21:23 |
| pinner | VOTE Next Meeting to be Tuesday 30th March, 1800 BST, 1900 CET, freenode#europython | 21:23 |
| contrary | +1 | 21:23 |
| _dboddie | +1 | 21:24 |
| DazWorrall | +1 | 21:24 |
| zeth | fine | 21:24 |
| pinner | +1 | 21:24 |
| ghum | +1 | 21:24 |
| pinner | s/fine/+1/ | 21:24 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 21:24 |
| pinner | DECISION Next Meeting to be Tuesday 30th March, 1800 BST, 1900 CET, at freenode#europython | 21:25 |
| matti | :) | 21:25 |
| pinner | TOPIC Any other Business | 21:25 |
| aa_ | APOLOGIES :) | 21:25 |
| pinner | aa_: hello! | 21:25 |
| aa_ | hi everyone, really sorry hectic day | 21:25 |
| aa_ | but please record my apologies :) | 21:26 |
| zeth | Hello aa_ | 21:26 |
| _dboddie | pinner: Keynote ideas. | 21:26 |
| _dboddie | pinner: Where should they go? | 21:26 |
| _dboddie | The list? | 21:26 |
| pinner | _dboddie: wiki Organisers? | 21:26 |
| zeth | http://wiki.europython.eu/Keynotes/Suggestions ? | 21:26 |
| _dboddie | OK. | 21:26 |
| zeth | Zeth needs to pop to the shop in about 5 mins | 21:27 |
| pinner | zeth: your idea is better, but don't like from keynotes, as that is for the potential Keynoters, and we don't want to run the risk of upsetting them with our ideas. | 21:28 |
| zeth | yep | 21:28 |
| pinner | AOB: I have a concern about volunteers | 21:28 |
| zeth | like == link | 21:28 |
| zeth | I think we may need to make a special page of wanted volunteer descriptions | 21:28 |
| pinner | we asked for volunteers, and suggested 'mixed' teams of British/Italians/Germans etc, and then did a doodle poll fo the best meeting time, but her we are with no Volunteers except for the usual gang | 21:29 |
| pinner | s/gang/mugs/ ??? | 21:29 |
| contrary | any Italians here that might like to suggest solution? | 21:30 |
| ghum | mugs? | 21:31 |
| contrary | any mugs then | 21:31 |
| pinner | ghum: in this context a mug is someone who lets themselves be taken advantage of, as in 'taken for a mug'' | 21:32 |
| contrary | blinded by the silence | 21:32 |
| fuzzyman | heh | 21:32 |
| pinner | ghum: maybe the urban dictionary would help! | 21:32 |
| ghum | tnx pinner ... I googled and was disturbed, thinking we are talking about EuroPython coffee mugs, but that did not fit into the context | 21:33 |
| contrary | does anyone from Europython Central have contacts with the Italian volunteers? | 21:33 |
| zeth | I may be in Florence in April | 21:33 |
| matti | zeth: ; | 21:33 |
| matti | zeth: Nice ;] | 21:34 |
| zeth | If I go I would try to meet our Italian friends for a pub night | 21:34 |
| _dboddie | zeth: I can thoroughly recommend it. | 21:34 |
| pinner | I think thatt what we are finding out that it is not practical to help with a confernec when you're running another beforehand, and that we need to atke account of that in choosing future venues. | 21:34 |
| contrary | pizza is good too | 21:34 |
| zeth | I went there for a minibrak with Jutta last year | 21:35 |
| zeth | but this time would be work trip | 21:35 |
| zeth | thus would be in need of entertainment :) | 21:35 |
| pinner | when zeth/moraeti/pinner helped with EP at Vilnius, EP preceded PyCon UK, which was OK-ish | 21:35 |
| zeth | However, I might be able to get out of the trip and get on with my DIY instead :) | 21:36 |
| pinner | zetL April is getting too late: they are nmissing the formative stages, and will not ahve taken part in decision-making | 21:36 |
| pinner | I will mail lac and fabio about this... | 21:37 |
| zeth | my plug was not that much to do with getting them involved, except as a side effect | 21:37 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:37 |
| pinner | Anything else? | 21:37 |
| pinner | #endmeeting | 21:37 |
| contrary | good night | 21:37 |
| zeth | night all | 21:37 |
| zeth | I go out now | 21:37 |
| zeth | be back later if anyone wants me | 21:38 |
| * pinner thanks everyone for coming | 21:38 | |
| ghum | gute nacht | 21:39 |
| DazWorrall | night :) | 21:39 |
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| pinner | good night | 21:44 |
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| _dboddie | matti: Are you on EP poster duty? | 21:50 |
| matti | EP poster duty? | 21:50 |
| _dboddie | Are you designing the poster? | 21:51 |
| matti | No. | 21:51 |
| _dboddie | Ah, OK. | 21:51 |
| _dboddie | I wonder who is doing that. :-/ | 21:51 |
| matti | If I were to do this, it would be terrible ;] | 21:51 |
| _dboddie | EP2010 by Matti | 21:51 |
| matti | I am not really a person with an eye for graphic design. | 21:52 |
| matti | :< | 21:52 |
| _dboddie | Hmm. I'll go and chase our elusive artist. | 21:53 |
| _dboddie | Have a good evening, Matti. | 21:53 |
| _dboddie | Don't work too hard. :-) | 21:53 |
| matti | Thanks. | 21:55 |
| matti | I need a nap. | 21:55 |
| * matti hugs _dboddie | 21:55 | |
| _dboddie | :-) | 21:59 |
| ronny | sup | 22:21 |
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| ronny | fuzzyman: where should voluteers/papers register? :P | 23:03 |
| fuzzyman | best way of volunteering is to join the EuroPython Improve mailiing list and say hello | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | for talk submissions let me find the link | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | http://www.europython.eu/talks/cfp/ | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | http://www.europython.eu/registration/ | 23:05 |
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| ronny | whats the difference to the normal europython ml? | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | the normal one is dead basically | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | for some reason all europython planning moved to the europython-improve list | 23:06 |
| ronny | was someone bored?! | 23:07 |
| fuzzyman | hah | 23:12 |
| fuzzyman | probably | 23:12 |
| fuzzyman | what will you speak on? | 23:12 |
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