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| matti | Hello fellow-slave, ambv | 13:35 |
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| contrary | Hello everyone | 19:03 |
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| contrary | hello Paul | 19:06 |
| paul_boddie | Hello! | 19:06 |
| CMooney | contrary, Hi Mum. | 19:07 |
| contrary | cmooney: hello son | 19:07 |
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| conch | hi there | 19:07 |
| CMooney | Figured out this IRC stuff then? | 19:08 |
| conch | CMooney: hi | 19:08 |
| jacob22 | PRESENT | 19:08 |
| conch | John has just called to say that he won't make it | 19:08 |
| CMooney | conch, Ah. Seems you have changed your name. | 19:08 |
| paul_boddie | jacob22: I don't think anyone did a #startmeeting, or whatever. :-) | 19:09 |
| CMooney | No longer the monogram, Q. | 19:09 |
| contrary | Cmooney: have not got the list of attendees on the right hand side | 19:09 |
| conch | it's me Quentin... and he has e-mailed us an agenda which Nick is just putting on the wiki | 19:09 |
| CMooney | conch, View-->User List or Ctrl+F7 | 19:09 |
| paul_boddie | Agenda: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100225 | 19:10 |
| conch | PRESENT | 19:10 |
| conch | we need a volunteer to chair the meeting | 19:10 |
| CMooney | Not me, running experiments at the moment may leave due to unforseen explosions etc. | 19:11 |
| paul_boddie | conch: You've just volunteered! | 19:11 |
| conch | OK, you'll have to bear with me while I get organised | 19:12 |
| paul_boddie | The meeting protocol: http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers#Meetings | 19:14 |
| conch | Thanks paul, I haven't enough screen space, just printing it out | 19:15 |
| conch | #startmeeting | 19:16 |
| zeth | PRESENT zeth | 19:16 |
| contrary | PRESENT Contrary Mary | 19:16 |
| zeth | (again on bus home so might have flakey connection) | 19:16 |
| conch | PRESENT q | 19:17 |
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| CMooney | PRESENT | 19:17 |
| conch | TOPIC Apologies | 19:17 |
| paul_boddie | PRESENT | 19:17 |
| zeth | IDEA in future have meeting at 1900 CET, 1800 GMT | 19:18 |
| zeth | It is quite mad to choose a time that lots of the local organisers cannot come | 19:18 |
| paul_boddie | I'd be OK with 1900 CET. | 19:18 |
| conch | I wouldn't | 19:18 |
| zeth | VOTE Move meting to 1900 CET | 19:19 |
| zeth | +1 | 19:19 |
| zeth | conch: what time would be better for you? | 19:19 |
| CMooney | zeth, VOTE keyword only works for the Chair | 19:19 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: I thought we were doing apologies, or is this your way of offering apologies in future? ;-) | 19:19 |
| conch | that's not the current agenda item - raise it under AOB | 19:19 |
| zeth | conch: I doubt I will be here for AOB | 19:19 |
| zeth | my battery will run out | 19:20 |
| zeth | which is the whole problem | 19:20 |
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| zeth | since this happens every week | 19:20 |
| zeth | since I, and most other people in UK, finish work at 5pm | 19:20 |
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| nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:21 |
| CMooney | Then suggest it for the first item of the next meeting. | 19:21 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: I guess we'll post the suggestion to the list and get some kind of consensus soon after this meeting. | 19:21 |
| conch | paul_boddie: Thanks | 19:21 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: I want to discuss this now | 19:21 |
| nickbooker | actions from 11th Feb: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingActions20100211 | 19:22 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: We can surely have a longer, broader discussion on the list. You're running out of battery, remember? :-) | 19:22 |
| zeth | well that would apply to everything | 19:22 |
| zeth | why not make a vote now on this point and move on | 19:23 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: Because there might be people who aren't here and who would like to be in the next meeting. But your point is surely noted, and we can just promise to get some agreement via the list. | 19:23 |
| CMooney | Because it's not on the agenda | 19:23 |
| conch | zeth: You are out of order | 19:24 |
| * _dboddie is also PRESENT | 19:24 | |
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| zeth | conch: as always :-) | 19:24 |
| paul_boddie | nickbooker: I think all doable actions are done. Richard and I did some Web-related tidying. Here's the agenda again: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100225 | 19:24 |
| paul_boddie | I think that the only apologies are from John... | 19:25 |
| CMooney | _dboddie, you have so say PRESENT for the script to work. | 19:25 |
| _dboddie | PRESENT | 19:25 |
| conch | TOPIC: Actions from Last Meeting | 19:25 |
| paul_boddie | APOLOGIES pinner - "conch: John has just called to say that he won't make it" | 19:25 |
| palla | PRESENT | 19:26 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 19:26 |
| paul_boddie | Right. So, there were some minor changes to the Wiki which I managed to do with the help of a login. | 19:26 |
| zinanni | PRESENT | 19:26 |
| zeth | I changed the talk submissions system as agreed last time | 19:27 |
| zeth | we have had some submissions | 19:27 |
| paul_boddie | Oh, and Zeth gave me a despamming login for the blog. | 19:27 |
| paul_boddie | Not much else to discuss around the actions, I guess, unless someone really disagrees with what was decided last time. | 19:29 |
| conch | There's a decision about a sub-domain model? | 19:29 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: we should probably add some kind of validation to cut down on the spam, but we can discuss this out of the meeting | 19:29 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: Sure. | 19:29 |
| paul_boddie | conch: Check out ep2008.europython.eu, ep2009.europython.eu, and so on. | 19:30 |
| conch | Thanks, Nick just tells me there are no other items... | 19:30 |
| conch | TOPIC: Fees | 19:30 |
| matti | Hi folks. | 19:31 |
| * zeth waves at matti | 19:31 | |
| conch | I guess that the most important issue is when we actually stop EEB | 19:31 |
| paul_boddie | matti: Hello! Are you present in the meeting? | 19:31 |
| matti | PRESENT | 19:32 |
| paul_boddie | conch: How many people are registered? And should we give proper notice of EEB and leave it a few days? | 19:32 |
| matti | paul_boddie: :) | 19:32 |
| matti | zeth: :) | 19:32 |
| conch | I don't know the numbers, I guess we should let it run for a little longer until we have made a little more publicity | 19:33 |
| paul_boddie | Maybe reboot the publicity, then? Zeth did an announcement which I guess didn't make it to all the different outlets. | 19:34 |
| zeth | we have had some submissionsaybe discuss that under pub, if we are going to be sticklers for the agenda | 19:34 |
| conch | OK | 19:35 |
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| zeth | maybe discuss that under pub, if we are going to be sticklers for the agenda | 19:35 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: Sure. If publicity is the issue, let's discuss that in a few items time. :-) | 19:35 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: we should probably add some kind of validation to cut down on the spam, but we can discuss this out of the meetingain and typing is hard sorry | 19:35 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: No problem! We can figure that out. | 19:35 |
| zeth | aaa | 19:35 |
| conch | VOTE: Hold EEB pending more publicity | 19:35 |
| paul_boddie | +1 | 19:35 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:35 |
| conch | +1 | 19:36 |
| zeth | it is raining on my computer back soon | 19:36 |
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| paul_boddie | (PyCon is over now, so we can maybe take advantage of the post-conference buzz.) | 19:36 |
| conch | Any other votes? | 19:36 |
| * paul_boddie wonders where Zeth is. | 19:36 | |
| contrary | probably at a bus stop | 19:36 |
| zeth | zeth is in road | 19:36 |
| conch | paul_boddie: rained on? | 19:37 |
| zeth | i think extend a little bit | 19:37 |
| zeth | so +0 | 19:37 |
| zeth | not too much that everyone books at the cheap rate | 19:37 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 19:37 |
| zeth | but we capped it 150 anyhow | 19:38 |
| HippySurfer | PRESENT - briefly, will need to run soon. | 19:38 |
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| [fpliger] | hi all | 19:38 |
| paul_boddie | HippySurfer: Just in time for the Web site discussion. | 19:38 |
| conch | DECISION: Hold EEB pending more publicity and post PyCON buzz | 19:38 |
| HippySurfer | ok | 19:38 |
| conch | Topic: Website | 19:38 |
| conch | TOPIC Website | 19:39 |
| HippySurfer | I could do with some guidance on EEB dates for the front page. It current says that EEB ended last week. | 19:39 |
| HippySurfer | As Paul says, other actions have been completed. I have also made a start on ical generation from the schedule and updated the timetable generation from last years. | 19:40 |
| zeth | Huzzah! I am home, due to unusual speed of Birmingham bus today | 19:40 |
| HippySurfer | It runs, but until we have some items on the timetable, it looks a bit empty. | 19:40 |
| zeth | HippySurfer: maybe make it another week | 19:41 |
| conch | Suggest we add words to the effect that there are still EEB slots available? | 19:41 |
| contrary | But that they are very limited | 19:41 |
| conch | Good ! | 19:41 |
| HippySurfer | I can just remove the date and leave saying that it is capped at 150. | 19:41 |
| HippySurfer | how many are left? | 19:41 |
| conch | VOTE Remove date, say that it's capped | 19:42 |
| zeth | Well I think once the publicity has been out, we should end the e-early bird | 19:42 |
| zeth | even if less than 150 people have booked | 19:42 |
| matti | EEB? | 19:42 |
| conch | Extra Early Bird | 19:42 |
| zeth | so say a maximum of 150 | 19:42 |
| CMooney | matti, Extra Early Bird | 19:42 |
| matti | Oh. | 19:43 |
| HippySurfer | we can pull the plug when ever we like if we don't put a date on the website. | 19:43 |
| paul_boddie | +0 (just give people a few more days) | 19:43 |
| HippySurfer | +1 | 19:43 |
| conch | +1 | 19:43 |
| zeth | +0 just a week extra | 19:43 |
| matti | +0 | 19:43 |
| conch | add "a few more days" | 19:43 |
| HippySurfer | but we also need to have the Early Bird rates set up and they are not done yet. | 19:43 |
| zeth | "Extra Early Bird Registration is available for a few more days until 150 delegates have booked, which ever comes first." | 19:44 |
| zeth | "Extra Early Bird Registration is available for a few more days or until 150 delegates have booked, which ever comes first." | 19:44 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 19:44 |
| HippySurfer | that wording is fine. Can we add an action for John to set up the early bird rates so that we can switch to that as soon as the 150 is done? | 19:44 |
| conch | VOTE: On zeth's wording | 19:45 |
| HippySurfer | +1 | 19:45 |
| conch | +1 | 19:45 |
| contrary | +1 | 19:45 |
| _dboddie | +1 "whichever" | 19:45 |
| nickbooker | do those +0s in the last vote actually mean abstain, or did you mean -1? | 19:45 |
| matti | +! | 19:45 |
| matti | +1 | 19:45 |
| matti | ;] | 19:45 |
| conch | ACTION JP is requested to set up EEB rates so that we can switch | 19:46 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:46 |
| paul_boddie | nickbooker: I meant +0 because it's not critical to me. | 19:46 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 19:46 |
| nickbooker | paul_boddie: OK | 19:46 |
| zeth | for me, +0 means agree to a small extent | 19:47 |
| conch | DECISION: keep EEB open in accordance with the wording proposed by Zeth | 19:47 |
| zeth | I think if 150 people all got EEB we might have financial problems, since the speakers get that rate too | 19:47 |
| paul_boddie | On other Web site matters, John and Richard have proposed that the talk and speaker details will be shown on the Web site, and there'll be comment/resource pages on the Wiki. Those Wiki pages may show the static content inline. | 19:47 |
| nickbooker | zeth, paul_boddy: OK I won't poke around with that vote when I generate the actions list. | 19:47 |
| * zeth bows to nickbooker | 19:48 | |
| nickbooker | zeth: Don't I'm not worthy. | 19:48 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: shown on the web site to whom? | 19:48 |
| conch | paul_boddie: Do we need to agree that? | 19:48 |
| conch | that is the proposal about talk and speaker details | 19:49 |
| paul_boddie | conch: We don't need to agree it, but I thought I should report it and see if anyone had any comments. | 19:49 |
| zeth | the way the speaker system works is that they get submitted into Django site, then approved/edited/etc then exported into pickle then into main website system | 19:49 |
| HippySurfer | don't think we need a vote. I think that Paul, John and myself can do something sensible between us. | 19:49 |
| zeth | I am not understanding what HippySurfer you are proposing | 19:50 |
| conch | HippySurfer: Good, thanks for your continuing efforts | 19:50 |
| HippySurfer | I can send you the email trail between Paul, John and myself. It will be more efficient than explaining here. | 19:50 |
| zeth | ok please do, but can you not give a rough summary? | 19:51 |
| HippySurfer | Sorry folks, must run. I'll review the IRC logs later. | 19:51 |
| conch | OK | 19:51 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: Various things were discussed off-list, and although I'm more inclined to do Wiki stuff, I think it's a reasonable solution. It just enables speakers to have somewhere to put resources and for people to add pertinent stuff. | 19:51 |
| zeth | ok | 19:51 |
| * zeth waves at HippySurfer | 19:51 | |
| conch | TOPIC wiki | 19:51 |
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| paul_boddie | I think Wiki and Web site are pretty close. Nothing much to add here. | 19:52 |
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| zeth | paul_boddie: what is a reasonable solution? | 19:52 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: Something which helps me avoid too much work. | 19:52 |
| conch | TOPIC Publicity | 19:52 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: The mails will tell all. | 19:52 |
| conch | Have we any volunteers to support Zeth's stuff, or do we know of anyone who could be asked to do some publicity work? | 19:53 |
| zeth | so I wrote the publicty email | 19:53 |
| conch | zeth: You did indeed! | 19:54 |
| zeth | and last week we were going to discuss how to organise publicity, but my battery died then and I don't know what happened | 19:54 |
| matti | What is "zeth's stuff"? | 19:54 |
| CMooney | Do we have any artwork (posters) that I could download print and put around the university here? | 19:54 |
| paul_boddie | Start here: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity | 19:54 |
| zeth | So last year we did not do much publicity for Europython | 19:55 |
| zeth | or it did not work out so well | 19:55 |
| paul_boddie | And here: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/Announcement | 19:55 |
| zeth | I emailed a lot of lists last year | 19:55 |
| zeth | and I don't know what else happened | 19:55 |
| zeth | However | 19:55 |
| zeth | in PyConUK 2007, we had better organisation for publicity | 19:55 |
| zeth | there was a woman called Gail who headed it up | 19:55 |
| zeth | and so there was a more pro-active approach | 19:56 |
| zeth | so my point is, I think we should have some kind of plan for publicity | 19:56 |
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| conch | zeth: we have no-one heading it up at the moment, we need to find Gail Mark II | 19:56 |
| zeth | rather than just emailing 3 lists randomly and hoping for the best | 19:56 |
| paul_boddie | Here's what we did before: http://ep2008.europython.eu/Planning/Publicity | 19:57 |
| paul_boddie | I'll copy that (or any 2009 version) into the Wiki and we can work from there. | 19:57 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: good plan that man | 19:58 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: So in the chart, can we put names to it also | 19:58 |
| zeth | dish up the lists | 19:58 |
| conch | I suggest that we try and wrack our brains and look for volunteers over the next few days | 19:58 |
| zeth | paul_boddie: How about another column after 'channel'? | 19:59 |
| zeth | Named 'Adopted by' or something | 19:59 |
| paul_boddie | Sheesh: I remember saying that rebuilding the Wiki every year would involve more work. Anyway, copying the page now... | 19:59 |
| zeth | so that we can see who is signing up for it | 19:59 |
| matti | There is a poster in my office already -- about EPC 2k10 :) | 19:59 |
| matti | Not much but ;-p | 19:59 |
| matti | *smile* | 19:59 |
| matti | ;] | 19:59 |
| CMooney | matti, Where did you get it? | 20:00 |
| matti | I made it. | 20:00 |
| matti | :) | 20:00 |
| conch | matti: Great, can we see it?!! | 20:00 |
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| matti | conch: It is just a white paper with few words about EPC 2k10 on it ;] | 20:00 |
| matti | conch: I am not a graphic/designer person. | 20:01 |
| matti | ;] | 20:01 |
| conch | IDEA: Maybe we could give a few ideas to hellocatfood.... | 20:01 |
| zeth | good idea, but as a backup plan, can we rehash the last year's stuff? | 20:02 |
| zeth | there was a posh poster that I saw before | 20:02 |
| conch | Yes, then in the past we have got a graphic designer friend of John's to produce a cleaner version | 20:03 |
| conch | VOTE: Consider last year's poster designs on Saturday at PyWM | 20:05 |
| CMooney | +1 | 20:05 |
| zeth | +1 | 20:05 |
| nickbooker | 0 | 20:05 |
| conch | +1 | 20:05 |
| contrary | +1 | 20:05 |
| zeth | By the way, in case anyone doesn't know, we are meeting in Saturday in Birmingham, all welcome | 20:05 |
| conch | zeth: Thanks | 20:06 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 20:06 |
| paul_boddie | Added: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/Channels | 20:06 |
| conch | DECISION: Consider last year's poster designs on Saturday - try and progress the poster... | 20:07 |
| conch | TOPIC Partner's Programme | 20:07 |
| contrary | How about asking Keith if he would join the group? | 20:08 |
| CMooney | Suppose you could do that, do you need his email address? | 20:08 |
| conch | sounds good to me | 20:08 |
| matti | +1 | 20:09 |
| matti | Ops. | 20:09 |
| CMooney | (I don't have it, but some else might) | 20:09 |
| matti | :( | 20:09 |
| matti | Too late. | 20:09 |
| zeth | Keith might like to learn about Python though | 20:09 |
| contrary | He doesn't have to attend everything | 20:10 |
| conch | VOTE Invite Keith White to be a volunteer on the Partner's Programme | 20:10 |
| conch | +1 | 20:10 |
| CMooney | You can always ask, although previously he does tend to help rather than participate. | 20:10 |
| CMooney | +1 | 20:10 |
| matti | Who's Keith White? | 20:10 |
| matti | +1 | 20:10 |
| paul_boddie | *The* Keith White? | 20:10 |
| * paul_boddie has no idea who Keith White is. ;-) | 20:10 | |
| zeth | (because of the time for this meeting?) Treasurer Alex cannot be here, but he previously agreed that the Partners programme could have a budget of 200 from the conference | 20:11 |
| zeth | -1 | 20:11 |
| zeth | Keith might like to continue his normal activities | 20:11 |
| zeth | up to him | 20:11 |
| zeth | he normally volunteers for other things | 20:11 |
| conch | Local LUG person who has done good work at previous PyConUK and EuroPython - helped on registration and the enquiry desk, also did stuff for the Tech Team | 20:12 |
| matti | :) | 20:12 |
| matti | We love him then. | 20:12 |
| matti | ;] | 20:12 |
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| nickbooker | +1 | 20:12 |
| ghum | hello | 20:12 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 20:13 |
| zeth | Keith is python newbie, but he will improve over the years if he keeps going to the odd talk here and there | 20:13 |
| conch | contrary: who should approach him - John or I can do it if you'd like | 20:13 |
| paul_boddie | Hello ghum! | 20:13 |
| ghum | guess wrong timezone and an hour late? | 20:14 |
| conch | DECISION Approach Keith White to assist with the Partner's Programme | 20:14 |
| zeth | (because of the time for this meeting?) Treasurer Alex cannot be here, but he previously agreed that the Partners programme could have a budget of 200 from the conference. So I suggest that the partners programme has a party at the end of the week. | 20:14 |
| contrary | It would probably be better if John or Q did it. They know him better | 20:14 |
| contrary | zeth: only if the money has not been spent :-) | 20:14 |
| paul_boddie | ghum: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100225 | 20:14 |
| conch | ACTION JP/QW to approach Keith | 20:14 |
| zeth | contrary: well spent it how you like, just a suggestion | 20:15 |
| paul_boddie | ghum: Still plenty to discuss, though. | 20:15 |
| ghum | tnx paul_boddie | 20:15 |
| conch | We are running out of time - I'd like to propose that we stop, but have a meeting next week | 20:15 |
| zeth | I am running out of time, can we move on a bit | 20:15 |
| zeth | conch: agreed | 20:16 |
| CMooney | Agreed. | 20:16 |
| conch | VOTE: End Meeting, continue next week | 20:16 |
| conch | +1 | 20:17 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 20:17 |
| paul_boddie | I think the agenda could be slimmed down a bit unless certain topics really need discussing. | 20:17 |
| ghum | +1 | 20:17 |
| zeth | well lets have a last minute AOB, in case anyone has something urgent to say | 20:17 |
| paul_boddie | +1 | 20:17 |
| matti | +1 | 20:17 |
| zeth | +1 | 20:17 |
| * matti hugs everybody :) | 20:17 | |
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| * zeth hugs matti | 20:17 | |
| conch | matti: Thanks | 20:17 |
| matti | 28.7 C in the office... time to go home... My brain melts... | 20:17 |
| conch | AOB | 20:17 |
| matti | :( | 20:17 |
| nickbooker | TOPIC AOB | 20:17 |
| paul_boddie | Quick, Zeth! | 20:18 |
| zeth | CMooney: did anyone make sense of what was sent to though form to you? | 20:18 |
| contrary | zeth: can you please do a form for me so my email can come off the site | 20:19 |
| CMooney | zeth, No idea, just sent it to europython-improve and let the pixies fix it. | 20:19 |
| zeth | contrary: sure | 20:19 |
| conch | I'd like to point people to the offer from Rhubarb Radio | 20:19 |
| zeth | where on the site is your email? | 20:19 |
| zeth | CMooney: cool | 20:19 |
| zeth | conch: sounds cool | 20:20 |
| CMooney | conch, That was good news on my part as I'm not even sure I can attend. However I'll probably email them and see specifically what they are offereing to do. | 20:20 |
| conch | Rhubarb are offering to stream some of the activity live and the rest with slight delay - audio only | 20:20 |
| CMooney | Take out the "probably" - I *will* email them. | 20:20 |
| contrary | zeth: volunteers page or partners, not sure | 20:20 |
| zeth | contrary: okay | 20:20 |
| nickbooker | CMooney: Who are you going to email? | 20:20 |
| contrary | ta | 20:20 |
| CMooney | conch, But does that mean they will be solely in charge of the audio equipment or do they just want an audio output to plug into their streaming stuff | 20:20 |
| CMooney | nickbooker, Rhubarb Radio | 20:21 |
| conch | CMooney: They spent a day here this week and are coming to PyWM on Saturday | 20:21 |
| nickbooker | CMooney: ta | 20:21 |
| CMooney | conch, Could you ask them then? | 20:21 |
| conch | CMooney: They want to work with us, even for us | 20:21 |
| zeth | CMooney: I assume it is the latter | 20:21 |
| zeth | CMooney: though it would be nice for the mto do everything? | 20:22 |
| CMooney | Yes but might as well be clear about these things | 20:22 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: I think contrary's mail is here: http://www.europython.eu/about/partners/ (and on the Wiki, but we can remove that). | 20:22 |
| zeth | cheers paul_boddie | 20:22 |
| conch | CMooney: They have lots of kit.... I told them that we already had you on board. | 20:22 |
| zeth | well if they have stuff, then we might not need to rent so much | 20:23 |
| conch | I think we'll have to move on.... | 20:23 |
| conch | TOPIC Next Meeting | 20:23 |
| CMooney | I think it was assumed that I'd attend. My circumstances have changed a little, I'll happily liease[sic] etc until I'm sure of my attending I'd rather not commit | 20:23 |
| conch | CMooney: That's fine.. | 20:24 |
| zeth | Thursday at 5pm is silly since morati and fuzzyman cannot seem to make it either | 20:24 |
| conch | zeth: they are at PyCon.... | 20:24 |
| zeth | CMooney: I am assuming that if you come and volunteer with your normal gusto yet book last minute, then you can have the speakers rate | 20:24 |
| zeth | conch: ah I see | 20:24 |
| conch | zeth: It's lunch-time in Atlanta | 20:25 |
| CMooney | zeth, Maybe | 20:25 |
| conch | zeth: Do I take it you want to discuss the time of the next meeting? | 20:25 |
| CMooney | We have a lot of people here even though it's 1700 GMT start (21, although adimittedly not all are being vocal) | 20:25 |
| CMooney | But we have only covered part of the agenda | 20:26 |
| zeth | many of the people 'here' on the channel are not here | 20:26 |
| zeth | Well 5pm is a bit silly if I am leaving work at that time, however, when I work from home it is fine, but we should keep a regular time, and I think 5pm would be a silly time for lots of people in the UK | 20:27 |
| conch | We had a late start because we didn't know that JP wasn't available until 1656 | 20:27 |
| CMooney | 11 said present (rough count) | 20:27 |
| conch | btw I'm still at work | 20:27 |
| CMooney | me too. | 20:27 |
| paul_boddie | I can work with almost any reasonable time. | 20:27 |
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| CMooney | Speak of the devil! | 20:28 |
| pinner | Hello All, Sorry to be late! | 20:28 |
| * zeth waves to john | 20:28 | |
| conch | pinner: welcome! we have just agreed to end the meeting and are discussing the time of the next meeting | 20:29 |
| * pinner waves back at Zeth | 20:29 | |
| pinner | conch: Have you decided on the date? | 20:29 |
| contrary | got to go. bye everyone and son | 20:30 |
| conch | We have agreed that we should have a meeting next Thursday 4th March 2010 | 20:30 |
| conch | contrary: Byeeeee, thanks! | 20:30 |
| zeth | Bye mary | 20:30 |
| nickbooker | bye mary | 20:30 |
| * pinner waves bye bye to contrary | 20:30 | |
| CMooney | bye mum, conch | 20:30 |
| CMooney | damn. By contrary | 20:30 |
| contrary | was waiting for son and heir | 20:30 |
| zeth | So I am suggesting we move the meeting to at least 18:30 CET | 20:31 |
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| pinner | zeth: only 30 minutes later, then | 20:31 |
| conch | VOTE: Next meeting to be held at 1730 GMT/ 1830 CET | 20:31 |
| CMooney | +1 | 20:31 |
| zeth | If I have to work like a real person then I could not possible be back before then | 20:32 |
| zeth | pinner: at least that | 20:32 |
| paul_boddie | +1 | 20:32 |
| pinner | +1 | 20:32 |
| conch | +1 | 20:32 |
| zeth | +1 | 20:32 |
| _dboddie | +1 | 20:32 |
| zeth | pinner: when I work from home, or don't work, then it doesn't matter. But if I have to go to campus, I cannot get back at 5 | 20:32 |
| nickbooker | 0 | 20:32 |
| conch | ENDVOTE | 20:32 |
| zeth | and with perfect buses only 5.30pm | 20:33 |
| * pinner mocks Zeth's attempts to become a real person | 20:33 | |
| zeth | I know | 20:33 |
| conch | DECISION Next Meeting to be held on Thursday 4th March at 1730 GMT/ 1830 CET | 20:33 |
| zeth | well hopefully it will not have to happen | 20:34 |
| conch | Thanks to all for taking part and contributing | 20:34 |
| conch | #endmeeting | 20:34 |
| zeth | we have a possibility of funding | 20:34 |
| zeth | if we get that then I carry on being publically funded dosser | 20:35 |
| zeth | working from home etc | 20:35 |
| zeth | if not then I need to become a real person | 20:35 |
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| zeth | This rhubarb things looks really cool | 20:36 |
| zeth | perhaps we should ask them to give a little intro to themselves | 20:36 |
| zeth | like a 10 min slot in the plenaries | 20:37 |
| pinner | zeth:They called themselves Rubard 'cos they're based at the Custard Factory | 20:37 |
| zeth | yeah | 20:37 |
| zeth | v cool | 20:37 |
| zeth | We have six talks as of now | 20:37 |
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| pinner | zeth I have asked them, and they're coming to PyWm on Saturday so we can discuss it more | 20:38 |
| zeth | cool | 20:38 |
| paul_boddie | zeth: I hope you're not including my "Python and Horses" talk. ;-) | 20:38 |
| zeth | 6OpenERP demonstrationFabienPinckaers | 20:38 |
| zeth | 5Porting to Python 3LennartRegebro | 20:38 |
| zeth | 4Why open source worksLennartRegebro | 20:38 |
| zeth | 3The Trails of EasyExtendKaySchlühr | 20:38 |
| zeth | 2Visualizing Software QualityMarkFink | 20:38 |
| zeth | 1The Trojan Snake | 20:38 |
| pinner | zethL that is, asked them to give a talk at EP | 20:38 |
| zeth | RichardBarrett-Small | 20:38 |
| pinner | zeth: also we have the Gaming tutorial from Richard Jones | 20:39 |
| zeth | cool | 20:39 |
| zeth | why is that not in the system? | 20:39 |
| zeth | the system supports tutorials too | 20:39 |
| zeth | all events | 20:39 |
| pinner | zeth; 'cos he hasn't submitted it: it was suggested before the submission ssystem was available, and he's been at PyCon since I think. | 20:41 |
| zeth | okay cool | 20:41 |
| * zeth is jealous of people who get to go to PyconUS | 20:41 | |
| ghum | zeth: they should be back from there | 20:42 |
| ghum | it ended today :) | 20:42 |
| ghum | AND us.pycon was great this year | 20:42 |
| ghum | <--- 1st Pycon :) | 20:42 |
| ghum | <--- still jetlagged | 20:42 |
| zeth | lucky you | 20:42 |
| paul_boddie | ghum: Did you give any talks or lightning talks? | 20:43 |
| zeth | ghum: what where the cool talks in your opinion? | 20:43 |
| ghum | paul_boddie: one lightning talk | 20:43 |
| paul_boddie | Not "how to give a lightning talk", I guess. | 20:43 |
| ghum | zeth: I really liked a small talk about the python dictionary. Nothing really new, but phantastically presented | 20:43 |
| ghum | paul_boddie: I spoke about the real harm of functional programming | 20:44 |
| ghum | zeth: I also really liked a lightning talk & open space of a guy showing of Python powered microcontroler | 20:44 |
| paul_boddie | Is that python-on-a-chip/PyMite? | 20:44 |
| ghum | also it sucks that I have next to none knowledge about soldering and hardwareingeneerring and sensors | 20:44 |
| _dboddie | ghum: Sounds interesting. | 20:44 |
| pinner | suggestion, should we ask Aleks Krotoski (of Virtual Revolution fame) to give a keynote? | 20:44 |
| ghum | no, not PyMite. It's a reduced python | 20:45 |
| ghum | <--- googles Aleks | 20:45 |
| pinner | ghum: we ( me and conch) can teach you | 20:45 |
| _dboddie | ghum: Is it the same people from that company who were at PyCon last year? | 20:45 |
| * _dboddie wonders if there should be a Python on hardware open space/hack event at EuroPython. | 20:46 | |
| ghum | <--- was not last year on Pycon | 20:46 |
| ghum | pinner: really? About soldering oder about Aleks? | 20:46 |
| ghum | <--- got a malware warning on first picture of Aleks | 20:46 |
| pinner | ghum: soldering | 20:46 |
| _dboddie | ghum: You're not supposed to click on the pictures!!! | 20:47 |
| zeth | I know a guy who has a Python powered boiler, and another one who has a python powered cd burner | 20:47 |
| palla | APOLOGIZE I need to get out of meeting | 20:47 |
| * _dboddie looks at the PyCon videos instead. | 20:47 | |
| ghum | _dboddie: why then does mighty google show them???? | 20:48 |
| _dboddie | palla: No problem. The meeting is over now, anyway. | 20:48 |
| _dboddie | ghum: To drive ad revenue. :-) | 20:48 |
| * pinner must go soon, as well | 20:49 | |
| ghum | mese votes for asking Aleks K for a keynote | 20:49 |
| pinner | zeth: I'll give you a call later, OK? | 20:49 |
| ghum | pinner: I need more then soldering. The whole stuff as "how to solder a sensor to a controller and patch on a resistor" :) | 20:50 |
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| * _dboddie gets a flashback to some bad 1990s student TV. | 20:50 | |
| pinner | ghum: can do - maybe we need a soldering tutorial at EP ! | 20:50 |
| ghum | coool!!! | 20:51 |
| ghum | I would like to ask those controller people to come to EuroPython | 20:51 |
| ghum | to give a talk and have some of their sample boards with them | 20:51 |
| ghum | do we have someone who knows enough about US/UK tariffs etc? | 20:51 |
| pinner | ghum: please do | 20:51 |
| zeth | pinner: cool about ringing | 20:52 |
| paul_boddie | ghum: Was it not the python-on-a-chip guy? The boards he was promoting come from some company near Cambridge (England). | 20:52 |
| ghum | they were from ... xxx wireless... | 20:52 |
| ghum | <--- diggs out his pycon badge where he stored the VC | 20:52 |
| paul_boddie | Oh, the wireless people! Is it still proprietary. SNAPpy, isn't it? | 20:53 |
| paul_boddie | http://wiki.python.org/moin/implementation | 20:53 |
| ghum | it is snappy | 20:54 |
| ghum | yeah | 20:54 |
| ghum | synapse-wireless.com | 20:54 |
| ghum | they are licencing that python interpreter | 20:54 |
| * _dboddie just found the talk from PyCon 2009 about SNAPpy. | 20:54 | |
| paul_boddie | Sounded a bit like what Telit had done, although I think Telit's stuff uses normal CPython. | 20:55 |
| ghum | they are aiming at 3$ price a processor | 20:55 |
| _dboddie | paul_boddie: Open space from last year: http://us.pycon.org/2009/openspace/ForEmbeddedSystems/ | 20:55 |
| ghum | there is allready one available, 3$ incl. in out etc. and wirless | 20:55 |
| _dboddie | paul_boddie: Talk about SNAPpy from last year: http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/schedule/event/73/ | 20:55 |
| paul_boddie | I imagine $3 actually buys you a microcontroller, but I suppose it's some kind of ARM-based processor they're targetting. | 20:58 |
| ghum | they had that $3 with them | 20:58 |
| _dboddie | ghum: How many did you buy? ;-) | 20:59 |
| ghum | None. | 20:59 |
| paul_boddie | Oh right: their own processor! | 20:59 |
| ghum | I asked them "How many sample boards do you have with you? Which credit cards do you accept" | 20:59 |
| ghum | but the first question raised a None ... | 20:59 |
| ghum | :( | 20:59 |
| ghum | so I started my persuasion talk | 21:00 |
| _dboddie | Your Jedi mind tricks? :-) | 21:00 |
| ghum | that they should pack a bunch of those starter sets (2 controlers, 1 USB port, one breakout board) and move their a* to EuroPython @ Birmingham :) | 21:00 |
| _dboddie | :-) | 21:01 |
| ghum | that starter set is 99US | 21:01 |
| ghum | that is ~66 real or 50 sterling | 21:01 |
| paul_boddie | £66 or €74 | 21:02 |
| pinner | I'm off... Good night every one! | 21:04 |
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