IRC log of #europython for Saturday, 2009-07-04

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tobixentjern o byl accident_00:32
tobixen?00:32
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mattiNo.01:01
matti;]01:01
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mattiGhum.01:20
mattiHi fuzzyman01:20
fuzzymanHello01:20
fuzzymanI just got home01:21
mattiianto: You never gave me my favourite gel pen back... :(01:21
mattifuzzyman: Long trip?01:21
fuzzymanabout an hour or so01:21
LarstiQnice01:22
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mattiMez: Have you signed my key yet?01:53
Mezmatti: you should have had emails regarding it.02:22
mattiNone so far.02:23
Mezmatti, what email address do you have on your key?02:24
matti@linux.com02:24
mattiI am going to sleep now, I will catch you later.02:24
matti;]02:24
MezJul  2 22:06:24 torpor postfix/smtp[12106]: 76E00E09F6: to=<krzysztof.wilczynski@linux.com>, relay=smtp1.linux.com[140.211.169.67]:25, delay=34, delays=25/0.12/7.8/0.21, dsn=5.1.8, status=bounced (host smtp1.linux.com[140.211.169.67] said: 553 5.1.8 <krzysztof.wilczynski@linux.com>... Domain of sender address mez@lazy does not exist (in reply to RCPT TO command))02:24
mattiWell.02:25
mattiI can see that domain maz@lazy indeed does not exists.02:25
mattiChecking sender's domain is quite common.02:26
Mezmeh, it's just cause I didnt setup postfix with the FQDN02:42
Mezand linux.com doesn't recognise ipv602:42
iantoMez: You adventurer you!02:44
mattiHeh.02:46
Mezianto: ?02:46
Mezmatti: you should have them now, I did it from my server02:46
Mez(and resent everyones emails!)02:47
mattiMez: What I suppose to do with this message?02:52
mattiMez: There is nothing interesting in it.02:52
Mezmatti: it should have an encrypted key ... ?02:53
Mezthat you import02:53
mattiFireGPG sucks badly.02:53
Mezlol02:53
Mezhmmles02:54
* Mez might write about ipv6 for the next article.02:54
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mattiCompleted manually.02:59
mattiThank you Mez, and I apologise for troubles.02:59
Mezlol02:59
Mezno worries.02:59
MezMutt ftw :D02:59
matti:)02:59
Mezautosnarfle :D03:01
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mgedminsprint sprint11:32
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tobixenhow can I use the pdb debugger with nosetests?  I tried to add "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()" in the test code, but nosetest is of course swallowing up stdin/stdout ...12:04
tobixenah ... --pdb-failures seems to do something useful ;-)12:05
tobixennot ... it would be more useful to be dropped into the debugger right before the failure happens12:07
tobixenI suppose the easiest is to manually invoke the test code?12:09
TheSheeptobixen: shouldn't make any difference if your asserts have no side effects like they should12:17
tobixenmaybe I'm just lacking expertise in using pdb ;-)  I usually trace forward and inspect variables, but at the point of failure, I'm already deep into the nose code and tracing forward of course causes nothing but jumping out of the tests12:20
czarnyis anyone staying longer than today?12:21
czarnyfor example tomorrow?12:21
tobixenleaving tomorrow daytime12:21
tobixenah ... it should be coffee soon12:22
tobixenI'll check if the coffee has arrived12:28
tobixenapparently not12:29
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LarstiQmoin russel :)12:33
jmlhello12:33
jmlrussel, /join #bzr too12:33
russeljml: done12:34
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Mezjml: pimping bzr again ;) ?12:54
TheSheephg ftw!13:01
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Mezew, java?13:04
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TheSheepMrWu: where?13:07
TheSheepMez: ^13:07
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Mezisn't hg java based?13:08
Mezor am I thinking of something else?13:09
MrWuTheSheep: back home13:09
MrWuI can't stay for the sprints13:09
LarstiQMez: hg is python as well13:10
MrWuhow are the sprints going?13:12
jmlMez, always :)13:14
MezLarstiQ: ah, Why did I think it was java13:15
LarstiQMez: no idea :)13:16
czarny_so --- anyone staying longer?13:16
czarny_tomorrow there's an almost free tour bus taking you all around the museums13:16
tobixenhm13:17
tobixenI'll see if I have time for it...13:18
* LarstiQ has a flight from BHX at 17:00 on Sunday13:20
* jml LHR 12:10 Sunday13:22
jml:(13:22
tobixenLGW late Tueday ... ;-)13:22
mwhudsonhello jml13:23
tobixen(my wife is rather annoyed with that, though ...)13:23
jmlmwhudson, hi :13:23
jmlmwhudson, you should look at the patch I just sent to the bzr list13:23
* mwhudson looks13:24
mwhudsonand hates thunderbird a bit more13:24
mwhudsonjml: you didn't attech the patch13:25
jmlffs.13:25
jmlmwhudson, thanks. resent now.13:27
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jmlmgedmin, deleted the vcs-imports branch13:37
mgedminthanks, jml!13:37
jmlnp13:37
LarstiQmgedmin: I think I have a bzr-svn version of gtimelog13:38
mgedminLarstiQ: so have I, now ;)13:38
mgedminbzr get lp:gtimelog13:38
LarstiQmgedmin: cool :)13:39
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mgedminI wonder if two unrelated branches created by bzr-svn are compatible?  I.e. can you merge between them>13:39
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LarstiQmgedmin: in principal yes13:39
* LarstiQ tests to see if that is the case now13:40
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LarstiQmgedmin: not in this case, but it's a very old branch with only one extra revision13:42
* mgedmin tries to figure out how to create a gtimelog mailing list on launchpad13:42
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mwhudsonjml:13:46
mwhudsonYour comments appreciated, particularly thoughts on UI, API design and13:46
mwhudson> testing strategies.13:46
mwhudsonjml: i don't see any tests in the bundle13:46
jmlmwhudson, yes.13:46
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mwhudsoni see13:46
jmlmwhudson, I would like a testing strategy :)13:46
* mgedmin gives up, launchpad teams are too complicated13:47
jmlmgedmin, really?13:48
mgedminapparently :)13:48
jmlmgedmin, #launchpad is full of friendly people who might be able to help13:48
Mezhttp://www.sourceguru.net/europython-200913:54
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tobixen"lunch in 20 minutes downstairs" ... John Pinner announced14:11
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mrammHi, anybody know where we're meeting today?   I tried the CBSO but the concierge told me we were not there.14:21
tobixenhuh? :-)  lots of people inside ... CBSO?14:21
mrammhad a good wander this morning though14:21
tobixenprobably you found the wrong building?14:21
trollfotmramm: it's in the CBSO in Berkley street, right side when coming down from broad street14:21
trollfotfirst floor14:22
tobixenthere were someone sitting downstairs letting people in around 0914:22
tobixengoogle for "google map europython 2009" and you'll find it14:22
trollfotthere are panels with Europython at the entrance of the lift14:22
mrammok14:22
mrammsounds very different than the place I found14:22
mrammthough the location sounds about right14:23
trollfotmramm: enter the building, right side there's a lift, there it is :)14:24
mrammok14:24
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matti;]14:33
czarny_o hello :)14:33
mattiHi14:34
mgedmin"there is some food downstairs"14:35
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tobixenbut no coffee ...14:48
mattiNo coffee?!15:03
matti:-(15:03
jmlcoffee now15:04
* mgedmin still has half a cup from before15:05
tobixencoffee!15:05
tobixenweee!15:05
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* matti stills mgedmin' coffee... and runs away...15:37
mattiHAHHAHA15:37
mattiMINE MINE MINE!15:37
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TheSheepmy preciousssss16:02
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matti;]16:04
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tobixenwho asked about a printer?16:35
czarny_does anyone know how long are we actually allowed to stay here?17:05
russel1We have to be out by 18:00 so start tidying up 17:4517:08
SafPlusPlusI'll probably be off in a bit, I have plenty of offline work left, so I can search for a nice spot outside... :)17:13
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dreimarkyesterday -> http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,634271,00.html17:59
tobixenbad weather?18:00
dreimarkvery bad > 100 liter per m x m. airport duesseldorf was closed18:05
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matti;]19:13
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tobixenanyone with dinner plans for today?19:31
tobixenI think that pub with both ale, internet and food sounded like a good option ;-)19:32
mrammyea, but which pub is that?19:32
mramm;)19:32
tobixen16:47 < adurdin> Food, beer, and wifi at The Briar Rose.19:32
tobixen16:50 < adurdin> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=B2%205RE19:34
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tobixenI think I'll run through the shower and go to Briar Rose.  hope to meet someone there :-)19:42
tobixenbut going to a pub with internet is quite OK even if one doesn't emet anyone19:43
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