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tartley | yo yo yo | 18:58 |
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moreati | evening all | 18:59 |
tartley | hey moreati | 18:59 |
moreati | tartley, I have some more speaker photos, would you prefer I upload them directly, or send them to you? | 19:00 |
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tartley | thanks, I ended up sendiung all mine en masse to... | 19:01 |
tartley | <lookup>... | 19:01 |
tartley | oh hang on | 19:02 |
tartley | alex@moreati.org.uk | 19:02 |
tartley | you | 19:02 |
tartley | :-) | 19:02 |
tartley | Right. Clearly I don't know where they should go then | 19:02 |
tartley | I've got a bunch, and I'm accumulating updates from my speakers, and passing the lot on to anyone who sounds interested at any time | 19:03 |
moreati | tartley: okay, I'll check my inbox, send me the rest and I'll collate | 19:04 |
tartley | http://tartley.com/files/mugshots/ | 19:04 |
moreati | evening Mr Pinner | 19:04 |
tartley | hang on, I have some more in my inbox I think, I'll do another ftp iteration and ping you moreati | 19:04 |
moreati | tartley: okay | 19:04 |
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qwright | hello | 19:05 |
nickbooker | hello | 19:05 |
moreati | hi | 19:05 |
qwright | hi alex! | 19:05 |
moreati | How are you both? | 19:05 |
tartley | hi there all | 19:05 |
nickbooker | fine thanks | 19:05 |
qwright | hi tartley | 19:05 |
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qwright | moreati: busy | 19:06 |
moreati | land rover still? | 19:06 |
john_ | G'd evening | 19:06 |
qwright | moreati: yes - one day last week... | 19:06 |
moreati | john_: is your O key broken :) | 19:06 |
john_ | moreati: haha | 19:07 |
moreati | brb | 19:07 |
moreati | I discovered last night that I'm banned from #python, no idea why | 19:10 |
john_ | moreati: banned? in what way? | 19:10 |
john_ | #startmeeting | 19:11 |
nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:11 |
john_ | PRESENT | 19:11 |
qwright | PRESENT | 19:11 |
moreati | PRESENT | 19:11 |
moreati | john_: nm, it's working now. Might have been a stale IP ban | 19:12 |
lac | PRESENT | 19:12 |
tartley | PRESENT | 19:12 |
john_ | TOPIC Apologies | 19:12 |
john_ | none from me | 19:13 |
john_ | TOPIC Review Actions from Last Meeting | 19:14 |
john_ | Actions mostly carried out successfully, except... | 19:14 |
john_ | Steve Holden didn't want to do a speed sprint as it was too short notice | 19:15 |
john_ | Any other comments on last meeting? | 19:15 |
qwright | for minutes see http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingNumber13 | 19:15 |
john_ | TOPIC Registration | 19:15 |
john_ | Report is on wiki.europython.eu/Organisers as usual | 19:16 |
john_ | 332 registered, 6 are duplicates (tutorials etc), giving 326 registered | 19:16 |
qwright | implies about 430 attendees ultimately? | 19:17 |
john_ | Added to wiki report is list of speakers not registered | 19:17 |
dboddie_office | PRESENT | 19:17 |
moreati | Certainly 400+ | 19:17 |
lac | APOLOGIES: Jacob is not here. I have guests here for dinner and will only be paying so-so attention to this channel as I am cooking dinner | 19:17 |
john_ | there are 37 of them, but | 19:17 |
john_ | some are because they have not used same email address for registration and talk submission, eg all Resolver people | 19:18 |
john_ | lac: what's on the menu | 19:18 |
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john_ | eh? | 19:19 |
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tartley | disconnection pasta! I don't want any! | 19:19 |
pinner | PRESENT | 19:19 |
pinner | Any more on registration? | 19:20 |
moreati | no | 19:20 |
pinner | Now planning on attendance of 400 for food and goodies | 19:20 |
pinner | TOPIC Tutorials | 19:20 |
pinner | I've asked Zeth to do a bookings system based on last year's PyCon UK one so we can allocate rooms etc | 19:21 |
pinner | are you here Zeth? | 19:21 |
moreati | It would appear not | 19:22 |
pinner | The main thing is that we need to circulate tutors telling them what they need to do for us to pay them | 19:22 |
pinner | namely, we pay them at the rate of £25 per student per day, | 19:23 |
moreati | was there a stock email from last year that we can cull? | 19:23 |
lac | menu: lamb leg bourgignon | 19:23 |
pinner | and they must provide good quality notes for the students in plenty of time for us to get them printed or on a CD or whatever | 19:24 |
pinner | lac: nice | 19:24 |
pinner | moreati: I don't know, but it wouldn't take long to do a new one | 19:24 |
pinner | tartley: is this something you could do? | 19:25 |
qwright | have phoned Zeth. He is in King's Heath (ie forgot! => apologies), however is confident about re-vamping the booking system. | 19:25 |
nickbooker | APOLOGIES zeth | 19:26 |
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pinner | can't make any progress on this item as right people are not listening, put in abeyance... | 19:27 |
pinner | TOPIC Talks | 19:27 |
tartley | oh, sorry | 19:27 |
tartley | back | 19:27 |
moreati | pinner I have the text for tutors from last year will post to list | 19:27 |
pinner | schedule published, everyone happy? | 19:27 |
tartley | Can I draft email for starters, yes of course. Sorry. | 19:27 |
dboddie_office | pinner: Yes, it looks good. | 19:28 |
pinner | tartley: yes please, get last year's letter from moreati, OK? | 19:28 |
pinner | but a bit full! | 19:28 |
moreati | tartley: I'll email you now | 19:28 |
tartley | moreati: thx | 19:28 |
pinner | OK, so what we need now is session chairs and a captain | 19:29 |
pinner | I asked on Twitter, but no response | 19:29 |
tartley | Does being a session chair compliment or conflict with helping audio recording? | 19:29 |
pinner | We could ask Richard Taylor, or Tim Couper to be captain again, unless you know anyone else | 19:30 |
moreati | tartley: there is some overlap | 19:30 |
pinner | tartley: complement | 19:30 |
tartley | well alright then. | 19:30 |
pinner | tartley: but probably best kept separate unless absolutely necessary | 19:30 |
tartley | ah! | 19:30 |
tartley | well alright consider me a last resort then. | 19:31 |
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pinner | I put the beginnings of a SessionTeam wiki page, from PyConUK 08, but it needs all the slots putting in for volunteer chairs to grab | 19:32 |
pinner | Any volunteers for setting this up? | 19:32 |
moreati | pinner: I'll do that | 19:32 |
pinner | tartley: Thanks, but on principle we should be getting more people involved instead of doing more and more ourselves! | 19:33 |
pinner | moreati: Thanks | 19:33 |
tartley | alright. I'll ask around the Resolver office, f2f might elicit better response | 19:33 |
dboddie_office | Is the SessionTeam page on the current Wiki? | 19:33 |
pinner | ACTION moreati to update SessionTeam page | 19:33 |
qwright | dboddie_office: yes | 19:33 |
pinner | ACTION tartley to mail tutors with our requirements | 19:34 |
qwright | dboddie_office: http://wiki.europython.eu/SessionTeam | 19:34 |
dboddie_office | qwright: Yes. Maybe that needs linking to from somewhere. | 19:35 |
pinner | Shall I ask Richard and/or Tim to be session captain? | 19:35 |
qwright | dboddie_office: currently it's linked to from the "helping" page | 19:35 |
lac | sessin chairs should not have audio visual responsibilities | 19:35 |
lac | because audio etc. can take all of your attention. | 19:36 |
pinner | ACTION pinner to ask Richard and/or Tim to be session captain | 19:36 |
qwright | lac: especially when the batteries run out! | 19:36 |
dboddie_office | qwright: OK, I see it now. I was looking on the During page. | 19:36 |
pinner | lac: agreed, but if no one else is available, needs must, and audio is very easy, I'm told. | 19:37 |
qwright | dboddie_office: good stuff... | 19:37 |
pinner | TOPIC Swag Bags | 19:37 |
pinner | We're intending to have either cotton (with gusset) bags, or (as I just got a special price) jute without gusset | 19:38 |
pinner | printed one side only, short handles so they don't drag on the floor | 19:38 |
pinner | OK? | 19:39 |
moreati | jute is another name for hessian? | 19:39 |
qwright | I prefer gussets unless the jute is extra-cheap | 19:39 |
pinner | moreati: yes | 19:39 |
moreati | Either is fine by me | 19:39 |
pinner | with gussets they're more useful as a shopping bag after | 19:39 |
pinner | OK, leave that with us, we'll decide on price! | 19:40 |
moreati | okay | 19:40 |
pinner | t-shirts, we're proposing to have good quality Fruit of the Loom, two colours for delegates ('heather' and black), transfer printed with the stock EP logo on front | 19:41 |
qwright | heather = sort of grey | 19:41 |
qwright | or light grey | 19:42 |
pinner | then the same for Crew, in burgundy or blue, with a separate transfer 'CREW' under | 19:42 |
pinner | OK? | 19:42 |
moreati | Grey and blue sound good to me | 19:42 |
lac | fruit of the loom t-shirts sound good. any pockets? | 19:43 |
tartley | All sounds great to me. | 19:43 |
pinner | moreati: that's grey and black for delegates | 19:43 |
qwright | moreati: did you mean blue for crew? | 19:43 |
moreati | qwright: yes, no burgandy please | 19:44 |
pinner | lac:we can have a single breast pocket, but we thought not: did you want them? | 19:44 |
lac | not particularly, but I have already been asked. | 19:44 |
pinner | I ordered the logo transfers today, but we needn't order the shirts yet | 19:45 |
lac | by delegates. | 19:45 |
pinner | lac: I though pockets might go well with the logos | 19:45 |
pinner | lac: did they want pockets? | 19:46 |
lac | yes. | 19:46 |
lac | or rather 2 did and 1 I am not sure about. | 19:46 |
moreati | t-shirts with pockets... interesting | 19:46 |
pinner | lac: correction, I thought pockets might NOT go well with the logo | 19:46 |
lac | somebody who can see them has to decide this. | 19:47 |
pinner | and q has just pointed out that they are not t shirts but POLO shirts | 19:47 |
lac | :) | 19:47 |
lac | aha! | 19:47 |
lac | I like polo shirts even better | 19:47 |
qwright | we can get some samples and take photos before a final decision | 19:48 |
lac | but you need to take a look at them, and then judge. | 19:48 |
pinner | OK, if you're happy leave us negotiating with the suppliers, who are 100 yards/metres away | 19:48 |
lac | I am happy with this. | 19:48 |
pinner | OK, hand outs. | 19:48 |
moreati | qwright: I trust your implicitly in all matters sartorial | 19:48 |
pinner | Did anyone see Yusdi's proposal for the programme booklet before he went on holiday? | 19:49 |
qwright | moreati: am not sure whether I should be flattered or not!!! | 19:49 |
pinner | It was on (I think) the improve list, we should all have seen it | 19:50 |
tartley | yes, I saw it. from the 29th? | 19:51 |
moreati | My first thought. Why bother with folders? Put the material straight into the bags. | 19:51 |
pinner | sorry, he posted it to me and zeth only | 19:51 |
tartley | oh | 19:51 |
pinner | tartley: something different | 19:52 |
tartley | yep, it is. sorry to distract | 19:52 |
pinner | just forwarded it to moreati and tartley | 19:53 |
moreati | I love it | 19:54 |
pinner | it looks comprehensive, but complicated. I wonder if he'll be able to get it done in time | 19:54 |
moreati | Though 2 columns may get cramped with 6 tracks | 19:54 |
moreati | pinner: depends, is he laying it out by hand or is script driven? | 19:55 |
pinner | moreati: dunno | 19:55 |
qwright | could be laid out landscape perhaps to get all tracks in | 19:56 |
pinner | If he manages to get it done in time, great (and Steve Hawkes has offered to help him), but I think we should have a fall back position | 19:56 |
pinner | Namely, if it's not done in time we just put in the delegate lists and timetable like last year, | 19:57 |
qwright | zeth has also offered some input | 19:57 |
tartley | I wonder if the timetable needs the talk descriptions on it | 19:57 |
tartley | It's handy, but I think if the cost is that not all tracks can fit on one page | 19:57 |
tartley | then it's worth discussing the trade off | 19:57 |
pinner | so we need to make sure we have the backup report software ready | 19:57 |
qwright | it's very handy to have, but it will get to be rather big | 19:58 |
moreati | from the text of his email, I infer that he'll be doing it manually. He intends to start when he returns, and it'll be a squeeze. He probably isn't aware how much these schedules change. | 19:58 |
tartley | I'd be super annoyed if I had to flip pages just to see 'what's on next' | 19:58 |
tartley | for every session | 19:58 |
pinner | but we can't discuss it until Yusdi is back from his hols | 19:58 |
pinner | tartley: the one day per page is more useful, when you're flipping talks (as opposed to flipping first homes) | 19:59 |
pinner | Proposal: | 20:00 |
pinner | 1. Let Yusdi continue with his programme, looks good! | 20:01 |
tartley | yeah: , the look'n'feel of it is great. clean lined and straightforward and readable. | 20:01 |
pinner | 2. Make sure we have backup delegate reports etc | 20:01 |
pinner | 3. Print separate one day per page schedules anyway | 20:01 |
pinner | VOTE on above proposal | 20:02 |
nickbooker | +1 | 20:02 |
qwright | +1,+1,+1 | 20:02 |
tartley | ha. I don't quite understand the rationale for (3) | 20:02 |
moreati | +1 | 20:02 |
tartley | can we do a quick overview of that before I throw my vote on the pile | 20:02 |
tartley | ? | 20:02 |
qwright | (3) represents a fall-back if all else fails | 20:02 |
tartley | I see. | 20:03 |
tartley | +1 then | 20:03 |
tartley | thanks Q | 20:03 |
moreati | tartley and we can do it at the very last minute, with an onsite printer | 20:03 |
pinner | ENDVOTE | 20:03 |
qwright | tartley: my pleasure!! | 20:03 |
tartley | moreati: sounds even better then. thx | 20:03 |
pinner | TOPIC Publicity | 20:04 |
pinner | Martin has disappeared. | 20:04 |
pinner | I got something put on python.org, and it seems to have resulted in a booking spike AFTER Early Bird ended. perverse | 20:05 |
pinner | although registrations are good, the more we get the better, especially as sponsorship is down (see later) | 20:06 |
pinner | nick got something on the Ubuntu podcast, a EP competition! http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org | 20:07 |
moreati | oh, nice job nickbooker | 20:07 |
nickbooker | thx ;) | 20:08 |
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moreati | I just thgouht, I need to check whether linkedin had anything, I'll check later | 20:09 |
pinner | fuzzyman: hello michael! | 20:09 |
fuzzyman | Hello everyone - sorry I'm late | 20:09 |
fuzzyman | PRESENT | 20:09 |
pinner | anyway, we all need to publicise as much as possible... | 20:09 |
pinner | fuzzyman: how much publicity have we in the MS world, with all the IronPython stuff this year? | 20:10 |
fuzzyman | EuroPython will appear in this weeks MSDN Flash developer magazine | 20:10 |
fuzzyman | (Microsoft email publication) | 20:10 |
pinner | great! | 20:10 |
fuzzyman | Plus is on DeveloperFusion or whatever it is called | 20:10 |
pinner | OK, looks good. | 20:11 |
pinner | any more ideas? | 20:12 |
qwright | what about http://events.theregister.co.uk/ | 20:12 |
pinner | qwright: are you volunteering? | 20:12 |
moreati | qwright: I'm just signing up to that now | 20:12 |
qwright | pinner: well done Alex!! | 20:12 |
qwright | also we could have another go at the LUGS | 20:13 |
pinner | ACTION moreati to publicise on theregister | 20:13 |
pinner | that would be something for Zeth | 20:13 |
pinner | ACTION zeth to publicise on LUGS | 20:14 |
pinner | TOPIC Tech Team | 20:14 |
pinner | I think the adsl and wireless is in hand | 20:15 |
pinner | and audio recording is in hand (ciaran/zeth) | 20:15 |
qwright | Have progressed extra adsl - need to place orders this week | 20:15 |
qwright | need to do work on wiki | 20:15 |
pinner | Michael Sparks has volunteered (but only tentatively) for a limited amount of video duty | 20:16 |
qwright | need site visit at CBSO site visit | 20:16 |
qwright | just one site visit!! | 20:16 |
pinner | and I have a friend who may be able to do a little, eg cover keynotes or lightning talks | 20:16 |
pinner | but I think video will be very limited | 20:17 |
pinner | we need a Power monkey to make sure we have lots of power extensions for laptops, and maybe a laptop charging station | 20:17 |
pinner | I suggest we ask Keith White, and offer him free entry as he's broke | 20:18 |
pinner | if told what to do he's very good | 20:18 |
pinner | projectors, we discussed last time, I think we agreed to buy one projector | 20:19 |
qwright | we did | 20:19 |
pinner | and we have two more, one from PyCon UK and a small one from Linux Emporium | 20:19 |
pinner | then for the ABH we must hire the big one | 20:20 |
pinner | which means we need two more, and three more on Monday (no ABH then) | 20:21 |
pinner | lac: can you bring your little one? | 20:21 |
pinner | and I can probably borrow the UKUUG projector | 20:21 |
lac | yes, i can bring it. | 20:21 |
pinner | which would leave one short: maybe we need to buy 2 | 20:21 |
pinner | lac: great | 20:22 |
qwright | just buy two more | 20:22 |
pinner | budget permitting, we'll buy two projectors I think, if not we'll have to do some more scrounging... | 20:23 |
pinner | TOPIC Sponsorship | 20:23 |
pinner | The PSF have paid | 20:23 |
pinner | No decision yet from Microsoft, Sun or Canonical despite reminders | 20:24 |
pinner | Disappointing as they sponsored PyCon US pretty well | 20:24 |
qwright | we still need to invoice infrae, resolver etc.. | 20:25 |
qwright | also do chasing of Nokia ... | 20:25 |
pinner | Some others (eg Pragma 2000, Resolver) have reduced their sponsorship from last year or PyCon US | 20:25 |
pinner | so it's not brilliant just now | 20:25 |
pinner | not really bad though | 20:26 |
moreati | Sorry to cut short, I need to go now. | 20:27 |
qwright | moreati: byeee | 20:27 |
moreati | I'll catch up on the log when I get home | 20:27 |
pinner | dboddie_office: any chance of Qt sponsorship? : they sponsored PyCon IT pretty well. | 20:27 |
tartley | Resolver MD Giles said he sent a message (yesterday?) offering 500GBP I think ... did that reach you John? | 20:28 |
pinner | tartley: yes £500, agreed a week or two back, we haven't had time to invoice it yet. | 20:28 |
tartley | alright, thanks. He just wanted to check all was well. Thanks | 20:29 |
pinner | tartley: yes, all OK, just short of time... | 20:29 |
pinner | It's a job to know what else to do, especially as there are so many other things to do now... | 20:30 |
pinner | So, as far as I'm concerned, I'll remind Canonical, MS and Sun again | 20:31 |
pinner | fuzzyman: have you gathered that Microsoft are dragging their heels over sponsorship, despite so many MS things going on? | 20:32 |
dboddie_office | pinner: I can put you in touch with someone. | 20:32 |
pinner | fuzzyman: Have you got any influential MS contacts? | 20:32 |
fuzzyman | pinner: I haven't heard anything from Microsoft on sponsorship at all | 20:32 |
fuzzyman | pinner: I know Michael Lonnon - isn't he the responsible man | 20:32 |
fuzzyman | ? | 20:32 |
fuzzyman | want me to chase him? | 20:32 |
pinner | dboddie_office: thanks | 20:33 |
fuzzyman | I know things are tighter all round at Microsoft this year | 20:33 |
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pinner | fuzzyman: yes, I hope you have better luck than I, half the time he doesn't respond to mails or phone calls (last one today): maybe he has no budget | 20:33 |
fuzzyman | pinner: I have UK Microsoft office contacts, I can copy them in | 20:34 |
fuzzyman | pinner: that might give him an incentive to reply | 20:34 |
pinner | my heart bleeds for Microsoft, maybe it will all be better when Windows 7 is released | 20:34 |
pinner | OK, we can't do a lot more there | 20:35 |
pinner | dboddie_office: maybe you can mail me with the contact | 20:35 |
pinner | TOPIC Social Programme | 20:35 |
dboddie_office | pinner: at gmail or another address? | 20:35 |
pinner | dboddie_office: gmail | 20:35 |
pinner | We've booked the Australian Bar basement for Monday and Tuesday evenings | 20:36 |
pinner | It is cheap (£50), capacity 600, has beer and food, including kangaroo burgers | 20:37 |
fuzzyman | sounds good | 20:37 |
pinner | and I don't think we need do a lot more, other than tell people where else to go, especially that the only volunteers we have are ourselves | 20:37 |
qwright | kangaroo burgers?! | 20:38 |
fuzzyman | never had kangaroo | 20:38 |
pinner | we have three ladies doing a Partners Programme | 20:38 |
fuzzyman | ostrich is nice though | 20:38 |
pinner | fuzzyman: tried last year at UKUUG Spring 2008, at same place, was tasty | 20:38 |
qwright | not sure about Fosters | 20:38 |
fuzzyman | hehe | 20:39 |
fuzzyman | fosters is goddawful | 20:39 |
fuzzyman | the Australian don't drink it and they laugh at us for drinking it | 20:39 |
pinner | maybe we should have a low key affair on Saturday and/or Sunday evening, but I have no ideas | 20:39 |
fuzzyman | that sounds good for tutorial attendees | 20:39 |
fuzzyman | maybe just Sunday | 20:40 |
fuzzyman | what about the place we went last year for the first evening? | 20:40 |
fuzzyman | smaller capacity | 20:40 |
pinner | lac: do you fancy a Hindu meal on Sunday evening? | 20:40 |
pinner | fuzzyman: not open on Sundays, OK for Saturday but we'd have to book | 20:41 |
fuzzyman | right | 20:41 |
fuzzyman | I quite fancy a Hindu ;-) | 20:41 |
pinner | Also the Jazz Festival starts Friday, OK for sprinters | 20:41 |
pinner | fuzzyman: what a Hindu female? | 20:42 |
fuzzyman | meal of course... | 20:42 |
pinner | TOPIC Any Other Business | 20:42 |
pinner | The Bletchley Park talk is confirmed with Sue Black, we're paying for her train fare and hotel | 20:43 |
fuzzyman | it's a good talk | 20:44 |
fuzzyman | I heard it at ACCU | 20:44 |
tartley | Giles is asking me can we get our logo on the mainpage list of sponsors? He's happy to cut a cheque tomorrow if that helps. | 20:44 |
pinner | And we need to consider next year: it would be good to announce date of EP2010 at Ep2009 | 20:44 |
pinner | tartley: I have anticipated your request and hope to do it tonight, if I don't fall asleep | 20:45 |
qwright | I'll send him an invoice tomorrow!! | 20:45 |
pinner | moreati: we were going to check price/availability of ICC in case it's viable | 20:45 |
pinner | moreati: can you visit with me this week? | 20:46 |
pinner | sorry, moreati has gone! | 20:46 |
tartley | thanks john, there is a logo on http://resolversystems.com if you don't have one to hand | 20:46 |
qwright | tartley: we do have one... | 20:46 |
pinner | tartley: I have them from last year, words as well | 20:47 |
pinner | TOPIC Next Meeting | 20:47 |
matti | Hi. | 20:47 |
pinner | I suggest weekly meetings now | 20:47 |
qwright | Tuesday 9th June at 1700? | 20:47 |
pinner | matti: hello, welcome, but we're just finishing! | 20:47 |
matti | Oh dear. | 20:48 |
matti | I just came back from work ;] | 20:48 |
matti | Who knows Nigel Cohen? | 20:48 |
pinner | matti: Nigel has registered, he came last year but I wouldn't recognise him | 20:49 |
pinner | are we agreed on another meeting in one week? | 20:49 |
qwright | +1 | 20:49 |
tartley | sure | 20:49 |
nickbooker | Y | 20:50 |
pinner | DECISION Next Meeting Tuesday 9th June at 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST | 20:50 |
pinner | #endmeeting | 20:51 |
matti | pinner: I've answered this message from zeth "Volunteer needed for collecting EuroPython talk outlines and slides" | 20:51 |
matti | pinner: And then he responded. | 20:51 |
pinner | matti: zeth is not here, he was out buying a house | 20:52 |
matti | Oh sorry. | 20:52 |
matti | I mean, Nigel responded. | 20:52 |
pinner | matti: best to email him at theology@gmal.com | 20:52 |
pinner | matti: theology@gmail.com | 20:52 |
matti | Is that Nigel's mail? | 20:53 |
pinner | matti: sorry to be rude, but I have to go home... | 20:53 |
matti | pinner: That is all right ;] | 20:53 |
matti | pinner: Thank you for help and enjoy your evening ;] | 20:53 |
pinner | matti: no, Zeth's mail, Nigel's is gnc@softwaredesign.co.uk | 20:54 |
matti | ;] | 20:54 |
tartley | alex is gone isn't he? I'll email him. | 20:54 |
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lac | take care now. | 20:55 |
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