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| zeth | Evening All | 18:49 |
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| dboddie_ | "Evening," says David as he lurks in the channel. | 18:51 |
| zeth | welcome! | 18:52 |
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| zeth | Now I do the bizarre thing for the bot | 18:53 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 18:53 |
| zeth | They are planning on parsing the channel to make minutes | 18:53 |
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| zeth | evening moreati | 18:55 |
| moreati | howdy zeth | 18:55 |
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| CMooney | Evening all. | 18:57 |
| qwright | Hi Ciaran | 18:57 |
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| zeth | Evening CMooney qwright | 18:57 |
| qwright | hi zeth, pboddie | 18:58 |
| moreati | pop poll, should I give on moreati as an irc nick and just be awillmer? | 18:58 |
| qwright | hi alex!! | 18:58 |
| zeth | dboddie_: dreimark jacob22 mgedmin MrTopf regebro r4vik ThomasWaldmann tobixen Tv xorAxAx Europython meeting starting | 18:58 |
| moreati | doh | 18:58 |
| zeth | Interesting it put a colon in | 18:58 |
| regebro | evenin! | 18:58 |
| zeth | regebro: evening | 18:59 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 18:59 |
| CMooney | moreati, meh | 18:59 |
| qwright | hi regebro | 18:59 |
| moreati | PRESENT | 18:59 |
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| qwright | hi martin | 18:59 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Hi Q | 18:59 |
| zeth | Hi Martin_Hellwig | 18:59 |
| Martin_Hellwig | qwright: You've got mail :-) | 18:59 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Hey Zeth | 19:00 |
| nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:00 |
| nickbooker | Hi all | 19:00 |
| Martin_Hellwig | oops | 19:00 |
| Martin_Hellwig | PRESENT | 19:00 |
| CMooney | PRESENT | 19:00 |
| zeth | nickbooker: do we have to do it again? | 19:00 |
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| CMooney | presents? Where?? | 19:00 |
| zeth | or were you logging already? | 19:00 |
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| nickbooker | was logging. | 19:00 |
| zeth | Evening Tartley | 19:00 |
| zeth | cool | 19:00 |
| Tartley | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| Tartley | or does it need a # | 19:01 |
| Tartley | ? | 19:01 |
| nickbooker | No # required | 19:01 |
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| ghum | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| mgedmin | so, is everyone supposed to say PRESENT? | 19:01 |
| pinner | Good evening | 19:01 |
| Tartley | thx. How cool is that? Evening all. | 19:01 |
| ghum | good evening | 19:01 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| Martin_Hellwig | g'evening John | 19:01 |
| zeth | If anyone is confused, nick is trying to parse the meeting for the minutes with a script, http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers | 19:01 |
| Tartley | Aye, check out http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers | 19:01 |
| CMooney | evening pinner | 19:01 |
| qwright | PRESENT | 19:02 |
| Martin_Hellwig | first meeting when there is actually still light outside | 19:02 |
| zeth | Yeah indeed | 19:02 |
| nickbooker | mgedmin: Yes | 19:02 |
| * mgedmin looks out the window | 19:02 | |
| nickbooker | Evening pinner. I made it. | 19:02 |
| CMooney | Martin_Hellwig, Tis great! | 19:02 |
| zeth | It gets sunnier and sunnier as we get the organisation done ;) | 19:02 |
| CMooney | lol Sure. | 19:03 |
| pboddie | qwright: hello | 19:03 |
| Martin_Hellwig | zeth: hmm that needs some scientific backup, if we won't organize anything it should get dark again | 19:03 |
| tobixen | . | 19:04 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yup I can see clouds coming over already :-) | 19:04 |
| zeth | ;) | 19:04 |
| * regebro is not really present, just lurking. | 19:04 | |
| * tobixen too | 19:04 | |
| zeth | Merry spectrial | 19:04 |
| zeth | Shy people | 19:04 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: Have just e-mailed you... | 19:05 |
| Martin_Hellwig | qwright: ack | 19:05 |
| pinner | Has everyone read the procedure at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers ? | 19:05 |
| qwright | tobixen: welcome! Feel free to lurk!! | 19:05 |
| ghum | ACK | 19:06 |
| CMooney | he he "lurk" | 19:06 |
| Tartley | pinner: Yes! | 19:06 |
| CMooney | pinner, ye | 19:06 |
| CMooney | s | 19:06 |
| tobixen | ok, | 19:06 |
| tobixen | PRESENT | 19:06 |
| pinner | so everyone who is attending has said PRESENT ? | 19:06 |
| zeth | Feel free to do more than lurk if you have interesting points | 19:06 |
| tobixen | and if we don't have interessting points? ;-) | 19:06 |
| zeth | well I just say them anyway ;) | 19:06 |
| nickbooker | yes | 19:06 |
| pboddie | PRESENT, then. | 19:07 |
| pinner | So let's start... | 19:07 |
| pinner | #startmeeting | 19:07 |
| pinner | APOLOGIES fuzzyman | 19:07 |
| pinner | any more? | 19:07 |
| pinner | TOPIC Review Actions from last Meeting | 19:08 |
| pinner | [registration] ready to roll, have you all checked it out? | 19:09 |
| pinner | [publicity mailing list] set up | 19:10 |
| pinner | [sponsorship] draft brochure prepared | 19:10 |
| MrTopf | apologize from me for not really participating recently.. busy with too much work (still am so I might just be lurking) | 19:10 |
| MrTopf | apologies it is I guee | 19:10 |
| MrTopf | guess | 19:10 |
| pinner | [wiki style] Any progress from TheSheep, Thomas do you know? | 19:11 |
| pinner | MrTopf: Hi, have you read the procedure at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers ? You need to for this meeting | 19:11 |
| zeth | MrTopf is PRESENT | 19:11 |
| pinner | zeth: roger | 19:12 |
| MrTopf | no, I didn't | 19:12 |
| pinner | [wiki style] no response. is there anyone else can take this on? | 19:12 |
| pinner | [wiki style] the idea is to use the style from wiki.python.org for consistency with the main site | 19:13 |
| MrTopf | will do as soon my system is responding again | 19:13 |
| pboddie | I guess you'd have to talk to Tim Parkin and anyone else who had anything to do with python.org back in the day. | 19:13 |
| pinner | [wiki style] let's return to this some other time... | 19:13 |
| pinner | pboddie: I don't think Tim feels competent to tangle with moin | 19:14 |
| zeth | [wiki style] It does not match, but it is okay looking enough for now. It is functional | 19:14 |
| pinner | [accommodation] all hotel info has been updated on the site | 19:14 |
| pboddie | pinner: I have no idea who did that style, although the CSS and stuff was probably Tim's work to start with. | 19:15 |
| CMooney | The registration looks fine to me. | 19:15 |
| CMooney | Wiki style - whats the problem? Looks fine to me?? | 19:15 |
| pinner | zeth: that's why we're leaving it for now... | 19:15 |
| zeth | [wiki style] cool | 19:15 |
| Martin_Hellwig | I can't find the registration, anybody got wipes for my glasses? | 19:15 |
| pinner | pboddie: I gave Tim and TheSheep all the stuff, but nothing yet... | 19:15 |
| zeth | [registration] http://www.europython.eu/registration/eeb | 19:15 |
| CMooney | Martin_Hellwig, http://www.europython.eu/registration/eeb | 19:16 |
| moreati | [registration] "A Premier room will sleep 2" Are the Premier Inn okay with 2 occupying a room at that rate? | 19:16 |
| Martin_Hellwig | thx! | 19:16 |
| pinner | [talks] First sub-committee meeting is next Saturday, I don't think we need to discuss further today... | 19:17 |
| pinner | moreati: yes | 19:17 |
| moreati | pinner: cool | 19:17 |
| pinner | [pub guide] zeth, any progress. Or will it be slow by the nature of the unit testing? | 19:17 |
| zeth | lol | 19:18 |
| zeth | [pub guide] still in progress | 19:18 |
| pinner | zeth: OK, it's not urgent at this stage | 19:18 |
| zeth | [pub guide] I have started from broad street and am slowly heading towards the ETAP | 19:18 |
| moreati | [pub guide] I presume this is oging on the wiki so anyone can annotate/improve it. | 19:18 |
| CMooney | [pub guide] ? what's the budget? | 19:19 |
| CMooney | :) | 19:19 |
| zeth | [pub guide] maybe I people want to join me at some point | 19:19 |
| pinner | [pub guide] only pubs with real ale accepted | 19:19 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [registration] the etap is in the weekend more expensive them the premier inn but during the week it is the other way around? | 19:19 |
| zeth | [pub guide] Entries with beards means they are John P approved | 19:20 |
| zeth | [pub guide] Entries with ZZZ means they are cheap | 19:20 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: we have a special price for Premier Inn on Saturday, for the other days the Whitebread management will not negotiate | 19:20 |
| zeth | [pub guide] More Z's means better value, more beards means they are better quality | 19:20 |
| tobixen | [pub guide] agree that only pubs with real ale accepted :-) | 19:20 |
| moreati | [registration] Martin_Hellwig yes, most city centre hotels are expensive during the business week | 19:20 |
| Martin_Hellwig | pinner: ok, jus seemed odd | 19:21 |
| pinner | TOPIC Registration | 19:21 |
| Tartley | [pub guide] real ale is icky, but real ale pubs (aka 'old men pubs') are great | 19:21 |
| zeth | [registration] The privacy policy says: "The personal information that we collect from you will not be sent and stored outside the European Economic Area ("EEA")." | 19:21 |
| pinner | Have people checked the info, eg terms, privacy | 19:21 |
| zeth | [registration] I suggest we add "and Switzerland" | 19:22 |
| zeth | [registration] "outside the European Economic Area ("EEA") and Switzerland" | 19:22 |
| zeth | We might host Europython there and take the database with us | 19:22 |
| pinner | zeth: OK | 19:23 |
| pinner | DECISION add Switzerland to EEA in privacy | 19:23 |
| pinner | [registration] any more views? | 19:23 |
| CMooney | Seems good to me | 19:24 |
| moreati | [registration] none except, thanks for doing it. again. | 19:24 |
| pinner | VOTE we accept the registration currently at europython.eu/registration/eeb | 19:24 |
| tobixen | [registration] seems a bit cumbersome to repeat the hotel booking for each day | 19:24 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 19:25 |
| CMooney | +1 | 19:25 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:25 |
| pinner | tobixen: but the rates change per day | 19:25 |
| zeth | [registration] tobixen well people come and go differently | 19:25 |
| tobixen | oh | 19:25 |
| tobixen | +1 | 19:25 |
| qwright | }1 | 19:25 |
| Tartley | +1 | 19:25 |
| zeth | [registration] normally you have to book your own hotel | 19:25 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:25 |
| zeth | _ + 1 | 19:25 |
| ghum | +1 | 19:25 |
| moreati | +1 | 19:26 |
| tobixen | [registration] booking through the form is very much better than "manual" booking ... | 19:26 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:26 |
| Martin_Hellwig | that is a landslide victory | 19:26 |
| CMooney | Whoop! | 19:27 |
| tobixen | are the votes "_ + 1" and "}1" accepted? ;-) | 19:27 |
| pinner | [preferred hotel] every one happy with the choice of 2? If people want something better, they can book direct | 19:27 |
| ghum | I have another question: | 19:27 |
| Martin_Hellwig | nah I think there are just ment to confuse the parser | 19:27 |
| zeth | [registration] tobixen any Javascript or CSS or anything to improve the look of the form would be merrily considered | 19:27 |
| Tartley | I think the 2 are a good selection. | 19:28 |
| pinner | tobixen: }1 was corrected | 19:28 |
| nickbooker | tobixen: qwright corrected his. I think I'll allow for /[+-] *1/ | 19:28 |
| zeth | _ + 1 in Python means add to the previous result | 19:28 |
| ghum | the hotel rooms, as we usually stay over night, it would be even better to read if there is Sat 27 to Sun 28 | 19:28 |
| tobixen | [registration] good idea with some javascripts here ... unfortunately, that's not my speciality | 19:28 |
| pinner | ghum: trouble is, we get too may variants with possible start and end dates | 19:29 |
| ghum | pinner: no change to the list | 19:29 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [preferred hotel] yes I think this is very fancy already, you can't accommodate everyone's wishes and don think you should try | 19:29 |
| moreati | [preferred hotel]I think choice of 2 is very generous | 19:29 |
| zeth | yup | 19:30 |
| ghum | pinner: leave the booking day by day, JUST the string changes, so it is clear that "monday, 29th june" indeed means "arriving at 29th and sleeping there until 30th" | 19:30 |
| zeth | [registration] moreati+1 | 19:30 |
| pinner | DECISION we accept the registration currently at europython.eu/registration/eeb | 19:30 |
| ghum | (just learned that when I started to book myself :) ) | 19:30 |
| tobixen | I agree with ghum ... | 19:31 |
| pinner | ACTION pinner to put registration in correct place | 19:31 |
| zeth | We can add that as a note, rather than in the form, the form is big enough already. | 19:31 |
| Martin_Hellwig | qwright: your mail is still not is | 19:32 |
| pinner | ACTION pinner to clarify hotel booking dates | 19:32 |
| Martin_Hellwig | is = in | 19:32 |
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| ghum | zeth: note is fine | 19:32 |
| lac | sorry to be late | 19:32 |
| pinner | ACTION everyone who can please make their bookings in the next couple of days as a test before we announce | 19:33 |
| ghum | state "present" in caps, Laura, for our automatic procol bot | 19:33 |
| lac | PRESENT | 19:33 |
| pinner | las | 19:33 |
| pinner | lac: hello! | 19:33 |
| ghum | welcome lac | 19:33 |
| lac | sorry to be late. | 19:33 |
| lac | forgot that the time moved | 19:33 |
| pinner | which brings us to | 19:34 |
| pinner | TOPIC Publicity | 19:34 |
| pinner | [publicity] With registration active we need to hit the lists, publicising Extra Early Bird | 19:35 |
| ThomasWaldmann | moin :) | 19:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [publicity] I am in the process of rewriting the announcement, but had some set backs last week, hope I finish it this week and give it a couple days for your review | 19:35 |
| zeth | [publicity] And remember to mention that it is 50% off for early bir | 19:35 |
| zeth | d | 19:35 |
| zeth | ThomasWaldmann: Moin | 19:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | zeth: good one | 19:35 |
| pinner | ThomasWaldmann: moin moin :) | 19:35 |
| zeth | ThomasWaldmann is PRESENT | 19:35 |
| moreati | [publicity] I just checked, the registration page does reflect the 50% rate | 19:36 |
| pinner | zeth: that won't work, needs to be posted by himself | 19:36 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [publicity] I am still aiming to send it out this sunday | 19:36 |
| CMooney | ThomasWaldmann, say PRESENT for the bot | 19:36 |
| ThomasWaldmann | PRESENT | 19:36 |
| ThomasWaldmann | is that new? :) | 19:37 |
| dreimark | dreimark: PRESENT | 19:37 |
| pinner | moreati: Are you sure? | 19:37 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: I sent it to martin.hellwig@dcuktec.org | 19:37 |
| CMooney | moreati, Says it at the very top? | 19:37 |
| nickbooker | ThomasWaldmann: Yes, we're trying a new way of collecting actions, apologies, roll call etc. | 19:38 |
| pinner | ThomasWaldman: yes, see wiki.europython.eu/Organisers | 19:38 |
| Martin_Hellwig | qwright: yes right address but still nothing in, if you attached something bigger then 10mb it will silently dropped by my MX | 19:38 |
| moreati | pinner: eeb=£95 normal rate=£190, was there something I missed? | 19:38 |
| ThomasWaldmann | ok | 19:38 |
| pinner | moreati: 50% of 190 = 95, in Cornwall anyway | 19:39 |
| zeth | [publicity] There is slight overlap with GUADEC, I am wondering if we can do somekind of thing about that in some publicity somehow | 19:39 |
| zeth | moreati: see europython improve list | 19:39 |
| zeth | like, pointing out that they can go to europython, then fly to spain from bham and make both events | 19:40 |
| moreati | pinner: I'm very confused, I thought the normal rate was adjusted to £190 so that we could say '50% off' | 19:41 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: It's only 2.8Mb thanks to images, (which can probably have the resolution changed) shall I resend? | 19:41 |
| ThomasWaldmann | btw, could someone fix "outline programme" to tell that 3rd and 4th are sprints (if that is correct)? | 19:41 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [publicity] GUADEC says on wikipedia that it is in Istanbul, do you think it is relevant enough to mention? | 19:41 |
| pinner | zeth: we don't need to point them to another event, surely? If they're interested in both they could work that out for themselves | 19:41 |
| pboddie | EP always clashes with GUADEC (which Zeth loves, apparently), but that's because of the time of year. | 19:41 |
| Martin_Hellwig | qwright: yes please | 19:41 |
| zeth | Martin_Hellwig: that was last year | 19:41 |
| zeth | Martin_Hellwig: this year it is in Spain | 19:41 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: that was last year, this year is Gran Canaria, warmer than Brum ;-) | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | canary islands, I think | 19:41 |
| Martin_Hellwig | zeth: ah yes, still need to fix my glasses | 19:41 |
| zeth | I am not going to GUADEC, but I did like it when it was in bham | 19:41 |
| CMooney | ThomasWaldmann, mention it in AOB, if I were you. | 19:42 |
| zeth | EuroDjangocon and EuroPython is enough for one summer | 19:42 |
| nickbooker | mgedmin: Yep GC is in canaries. | 19:42 |
| mgedmin | which is, technically, Spain, but not what one thinks when one hears "Spain" | 19:42 |
| pinner | ACTION Martin_Hellwig will coordinate the announcement, to go out Sunday | 19:42 |
| jacob22 | PRESENT | 19:42 |
| pinner | jacob22: Hello | 19:43 |
| zeth | mgedmin: It is south of London, that is all I know. | 19:43 |
| nickbooker | it's about a four hour flight from Brum | 19:43 |
| zeth | not direct surely? | 19:43 |
| zeth | In four hours you can get a long way | 19:43 |
| nickbooker | zeth: yes | 19:43 |
| pinner | nickbooker: listen to the jetsetter | 19:43 |
| pboddie | Oslo to Madrid is about four hours, so that'd sound about right. | 19:43 |
| dreimark | a currency converter or at least a table on that registration page would be nice | 19:43 |
| nickbooker | zeth: canaries are level with Sahara. | 19:44 |
| Martin_Hellwig | waiting to depart is usually four hours for me too, but that is just my bad luck | 19:44 |
| nickbooker | (somewhere) | 19:44 |
| zeth | Anyhow, GUADEC this year is actually called something else | 19:44 |
| zeth | because it has merged with the KDE one | 19:44 |
| pboddie | zeth: GDEC? ;-) | 19:44 |
| pinner | [publicity] if the announcement goes out Sunday, do we need to extend Extra Early Bird? | 19:44 |
| zeth | so a lot of people (not me) are making a special effort to go | 19:44 |
| zeth | so I wondered if we can have something to point out that you can do both | 19:44 |
| nickbooker | pinner: reming when EEB was supposed to close? | 19:45 |
| nickbooker | s/reming/remind/ | 19:45 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: OK have sent from another account in case my ISP was blocking it | 19:45 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [publicity] I say by another week yes | 19:45 |
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| CMooney | [publicity] seems resonable to me. | 19:45 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [publicity] at least we have some sort of an idea what the talks will be like | 19:45 |
| pinner | nickbooker: 7th March | 19:45 |
| nickbooker | thanks. | 19:46 |
| pinner | VOTE Extend Extra Early Bird Rate to 14th March | 19:46 |
| nickbooker | Yes I agree with Martin_Hellwig | 19:46 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 19:46 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:46 |
| CMooney | +1 | 19:46 |
| moreati | +1 | 19:46 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:46 |
| lac | +1 | 19:46 |
| zeth | Erm | 19:46 |
| moreati | [publicity] I assume that means eb goes until 21st | 19:47 |
| zeth | the point of early bird is that you get a discount because you don't know what the talks are | 19:47 |
| pinner | zeth: erm is a spoilt ballot | 19:47 |
| zeth | point of extra early bird | 19:47 |
| CMooney | pinner, If we register using the current link that will be registered and counted in? | 19:47 |
| zeth | We had not started the voting yet | 19:47 |
| tobixen | +1 | 19:47 |
| zeth | oh we had | 19:47 |
| zeth | -1 | 19:47 |
| pinner | CMooneu: yes | 19:47 |
| zeth | I want to discuss it a little | 19:47 |
| ghum | +1 | 19:48 |
| nickbooker | zeth: We're surely not going to know *all* of the talks by then anyway? | 19:48 |
| moreati | [publicity] forget what I said about 21st, it's 14th May not as I thought March | 19:48 |
| Martin_Hellwig | zeth: yes true we don't know how exactly things will be stuff can still change | 19:48 |
| Martin_Hellwig | and probably will change | 19:48 |
| Martin_Hellwig | talk dates rearranged etc. | 19:48 |
| zeth | The extra early bird is a reward for people to trust us and be patient, the talks should be presented later | 19:48 |
| moreati | IDEA we extend it, but not until 6th Mar | 19:49 |
| pinner | zeth: the point of EEB is to help the active people who are awake and get cash in | 19:49 |
| zeth | yup, get cash in | 19:49 |
| zeth | so lets not extent it forever | 19:49 |
| pinner | zeth: if we extend it too much, we are worse off financially | 19:49 |
| zeth | ok as long as we don't slip and slip | 19:50 |
| Martin_Hellwig | IDEA early birds ends when the first version for the schedule is available? | 19:50 |
| zeth | we lose credibility if we keep extending every year | 19:50 |
| pinner | moreati: you mean make leave it at 7th March, but extend it to 14th March on 6th march? | 19:50 |
| Tartley | is there a benefit to us from EEB in terms of sampling attandance and popularity of hotels, etc? Or is that irrelelvant? | 19:50 |
| CMooney | Martin_Hellwig, that could be a while.... it'd be better to have a definate date. | 19:51 |
| pinner | moreati: I don't see the point, let's leave it as it is. | 19:51 |
| moreati | pinner: yes, although the extension doesn't have to be by a week | 19:51 |
| tobixen | 6 days for eeb sounds a bit tight | 19:51 |
| zeth | Martin_Hellwig: there are two rates, the initial early bird should end way before that | 19:51 |
| pinner | We have an open vote | 19:51 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:51 |
| pinner | but not anymore | 19:51 |
| pinner | if anyone wants to propose anything different, do it now | 19:52 |
| pinner | TOPIC sponsorship | 19:52 |
| qwright | A draft brochure is on the admin site | 19:53 |
| pinner | [sponsorship] The draft is prepared, Jacob hopefully will be reviewing it | 19:53 |
| zeth | so when does eeb end now? | 19:53 |
| zeth | 21st March? | 19:53 |
| pinner | zeth: 14th March | 19:53 |
| zeth | ok | 19:53 |
| zeth | cool | 19:53 |
| nickbooker | qwright: Whereabouts? | 19:53 |
| qwright | [sponsorship] More info needs to be added about the speakers | 19:53 |
| qwright | [sponsorship] More info needs to be added about the speakers | 19:54 |
| CMooney | The keynote speakers, or the "normal" speakers. | 19:54 |
| qwright | [sponsorship] http://admin.europython.eu/Docs | 19:54 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] Can you take the talks we got and the keynotes we got, and add the normal suspects | 19:54 |
| pinner | nickbooker: admin.europython.eu/Docs but this is password-protected 'cos it has financial information | 19:54 |
| pboddie | qwright: [retro] CHR$(141) and double-height text doesn't work on IRC. ;-) | 19:55 |
| nickbooker | pinner: OK | 19:55 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] do we have the password already? | 19:55 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] do I have a password already? | 19:55 |
| pinner | ACTION qwright to add choicest talks submitted to date to brochure | 19:55 |
| qwright | pboddie: typo | 19:55 |
| pinner | zeth: no, I don't think so, rectify afterwards | 19:56 |
| qwright | [sponsorship] what are/ where are the choicest talks? | 19:57 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] [talks] We can probably approve the talks pretty soon, probably before you add them to the brocure | 19:57 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] [talks] q you have a login for the system | 19:57 |
| pinner | qwright: there are 18 talks, you have to Django login I think | 19:57 |
| zeth | yup | 19:57 |
| zeth | [sponsorship] [talks] We can probably approve the talks pretty soon, probably before you add them to the brocure | 19:58 |
| zeth | (exuse me, pressed up accidentally) | 19:58 |
| zeth | [talks] approving the talks soon will mean 18 more bookings also | 19:58 |
| pinner | [sponsorship] jacob22, qwright will you be able agree the brochure by say Saturday please? | 19:59 |
| jacob22 | pinner: Yes, I think so. I'll generate some input by tomorrow. | 20:00 |
| qwright | [sponsorship] Also Martin offered to look at it as well Richard Smedley | 20:00 |
| pinner | ACTION jacob22 qwright et all will finalise the brochure by Saturday 28th February, and involve MH RS etc | 20:01 |
| pinner | TOPIC Budget | 20:01 |
| pinner | [budget] we must prepare the budget spreadsheet asap | 20:02 |
| pinner | [budget] moreati, is this something you could do with me before or on Saturday? | 20:02 |
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| zeth | [info] Saturday is Python West Midlands meeting | 20:03 |
| moreati | [budget] not before, yes on | 20:03 |
| pinner | [budget] we must not assume that we will get lots of sponsorship | 20:03 |
| pinner | [budget] I suggest we are conservative and assume 50% of last year, anything above will be a bonus | 20:04 |
| moreati | [budget] sounds safe and sensible | 20:04 |
| pinner | ACTION moreati and pinner to prepare budget spreadsheet on Saturday 28th | 20:04 |
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| qwright | jacob22: are you able to get at the brochure at http://admin.europython.eu/Docs | 20:05 |
| pinner | [budget] at the same time we should be proactive and seek new sponsors | 20:05 |
| pinner | TOPIC Any Other Business | 20:05 |
| zeth | [budget] pinner/moreati do you have all the comparative info from previous Europythons? | 20:06 |
| pinner | [aob] any offers? | 20:06 |
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| jacob22 | qwright: Yes, I have. I have some things I want to adress, but in general it looks very good. | 20:06 |
| pinner | zeth: no, but PyConUK is probably more relevant except for sponsors, and jacob22 has everything anyway | 20:06 |
| zeth | ok, so maybe jacob22 could pass that along? | 20:07 |
| qwright | jacob22: Thanks, yes it's still a little ropey, will welcome your advice and ideas | 20:07 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [IDEA] add LEFT as keyword for the ICQ parse bot | 20:07 |
| zeth | or you could give him a copy of the spreadsheet afterwards? | 20:07 |
| Martin_Hellwig | uhm i mean IRC | 20:07 |
| jacob22 | zeth: I have passed the sponsor info. Other budget info that I have is from 2004 and 2005. | 20:08 |
| zeth | cool | 20:08 |
| qwright | [aob] The earlier time seemed to suite the non-UK attendees better? | 20:08 |
| zeth | (Martin_Hellwig: or just "has quit" as a keyword) | 20:08 |
| qwright | s/suite/suit/ | 20:08 |
| pinner | DECISION try LEFT as a keyword for leaving the meeting (that should confuse the bot) | 20:09 |
| zeth | Did the earlier time suit those of you who are not from the UK? | 20:09 |
| jacob22 | zeth: No difference for me. | 20:09 |
| pinner | zeth: that wouldn't do for certain people who leave themselves connected but not participating/awake | 20:09 |
| pinner | zeth: not aimed at anyone in particular, of course ;-) | 20:09 |
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| zeth | true, so the spirit left but the body remains | 20:10 |
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| Tartley | earlier time is slightly worse for me (I ought to be working and sit immediately by my boss), but my boss is a reasonable man. | 20:10 |
| nickbooker | [aob] [bot] 'left'.upper() could be useful for those leaving before hash endmeeting | 20:10 |
| pinner | [aob] I thing the earlier time got more participation from outside the UK | 20:10 |
| zeth | We lost fuzzywuzzy, was that because of the earlier time? | 20:11 |
| pinner | VOTE next meeting March 10th, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET | 20:11 |
| Tartley | zeth: fuzzy is overseas at a converence | 20:11 |
| pinner | zeth: he's away, gave apologies | 20:11 |
| zeth | ah okay cookl | 20:11 |
| ghum | +1 | 20:11 |
| zeth | cool | 20:11 |
| ghum | GTG | 20:11 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 20:11 |
| moreati | +1 | 20:11 |
| Tartley | +1 | 20:11 |
| ghum | EOIRC | 20:11 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 20:11 |
| tobixen | +1 | 20:11 |
| ghum | LEAVE | 20:11 |
| ghum | OPEN DOOR | 20:11 |
| ghum | NORTH | 20:11 |
| ghum | ##QUIT | 20:11 |
| lac | I slightly prefer the later time | 20:11 |
| ghum | GOODBYE | 20:11 |
| pinner | ghum: Bye! | 20:11 |
| zeth | ghum: you are viewing a large forest, an axe lies on the ground. | 20:11 |
| tobixen | HACK DOWN GHUM WITH BROADSWORD | 20:11 |
| qwright | +1 | 20:11 |
| pboddie | +1 | 20:12 |
| * nickbooker thinks ghum is taking mickey | 20:12 | |
| zeth | +1 to Hacking Ghum? | 20:12 |
| ghum | TAKE AXE | 20:12 |
| lac | take care all | 20:12 |
| pinner | DECISION next meeting March 10th, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET | 20:12 |
| zeth | good night lac | 20:12 |
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| * pinner has to rush | 20:12 | |
| zeth | Cool, I might be in German land again, but I'll make it | 20:12 |
| * pinner waves goodnight | 20:13 | |
| pinner | LEFT | 20:13 |
| Tartley | bye all | 20:13 |
| qwright | tobixen: tell me about CHR$ something or other | 20:13 |
| * moreati waves also | 20:13 | |
| moreati | LEFT | 20:13 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | hmmm no endmeeting? | 20:13 |
| zeth | lol | 20:13 |
| nickbooker | bye | 20:13 |
| nickbooker | #endmeeting | 20:13 |
| nickbooker | :) | 20:13 |
| Martin_Hellwig | :-) | 20:13 |
| regebro | ciao | 20:13 |
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| pboddie | qwright: CHR$(141) was the code for double-height text in MODE 7 on the BBC Micro. | 20:13 |
| qwright | #endmeeting | 20:13 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | okay pancake day | 20:13 |
| zeth | After a technical meeting we normally go the pub, shame IRC does not have the same. | 20:13 |
| nickbooker | poddie: Clears that one up - google search wasn't too helpful for that one | 20:14 |
| Martin_Hellwig | zeth: cd /usr/local/ftp/pub | 20:14 |
| qwright | pboddie: I had a couple of BBC Micro's - but did I use some funny character? | 20:14 |
| zeth | oh yeah, pancake day | 20:14 |
| nickbooker | cat /dev/beer | ssh zeth "cat > /dev/mouth" | 20:14 |
| zeth | lol | 20:14 |
| zeth | ACTION open beer | 20:15 |
| Martin_Hellwig | okay I better get going before no pancakes are LEFT | 20:16 |
| nickbooker | zeth: hehehe | 20:16 |
| Martin_Hellwig | LEFT | 20:16 |
| zeth | DECISION google how to make pancakes | 20:16 |
| nickbooker | surely that's ACTION? | 20:16 |
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| zeth | ;) | 20:16 |
| zeth | RIGHT | 20:16 |
| mgedmin | EXAMINE CAVE ENTRANCE | 20:18 |
| zeth | You are looking at a entrance to a cave, it is dark | 20:19 |
| mgedmin | TURN ON GRUE DETECTOR | 20:19 |
| ThomasWaldmann | those were the days of Zork :) | 20:19 |
| qwright | night all! | 20:19 |
| zeth | night q | 20:19 |
| nickbooker | bye q | 20:19 |
| pboddie | qwright: No it was the repeated text which led to the joke, since on the Beeb if you missed out or removed the 141 code, you'd get two identical lines. | 20:19 |
| pboddie | I'm off, too. See you everyone! | 20:20 |
| qwright | pboddie: I get it!! | 20:20 |
| pboddie | :q! | 20:20 |
| nickbooker | I think you can get Zork for free now (with a lower case 'f'). Works under DosBox. | 20:20 |
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| zeth | Is there not Zork for Linux? | 20:20 |
| nickbooker | don't remember. | 20:21 |
| nickbooker | there's a similar game in debian's bsdgames package, "adventure" | 20:21 |
| mgedmin | frotz is available for Linux, if you have the bytecode | 20:21 |
| * mgedmin never played zork, actually | 20:21 | |
| * mgedmin once almost finished adventure | 20:21 | |
| * nickbooker didn't either | 20:21 | |
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| * nickbooker is useless at adventure | 20:22 | |
| nickbooker | ?frotz? | 20:22 |
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| nickbooker | oh i c i googled it. | 20:23 |
| zeth | I am heading back to #sblug | 20:23 |
| nickbooker | anyway bye all | 20:23 |
| zeth | good night all | 20:23 |
| zeth | LEFT | 20:23 |
| nickbooker | ciao zeth | 20:23 |
| nickbooker | LEFT :) | 20:23 |
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| jacob22 | Bah, Zork is a modern copy of the real thing: Adventure! | 20:56 |
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