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| Sharebear | Hi, I've submitted 2 talks for EP but not had any notification back on acceptance... When registering for the conference should I select Speaker/Normal Delegate? | 14:36 |
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| dboddie_work | Good question. I don't know when the talks are going to be accepted/rejected and I don't know if there's a difference between the speaker/delegate prices. | 14:53 |
| Sharebear | There's no listed difference on the price | 14:53 |
| dboddie_work | I can take this issue up at the organisation meeting later and get back to you. | 14:53 |
| zeth | oh yeah, I had better book too | 14:54 |
| Sharebear | I guess there is another day or 2 of early bird registration | 14:54 |
| dboddie_work | Yes, I think so. Book now to avoid disappointment. :-) | 14:54 |
| zeth | yup indeed | 14:54 |
| Sharebear | Just didn't want to leave it too long as sometimes invoices get stuck for a few days in accounting | 14:54 |
| zeth | I am just sorting my travel out now | 14:54 |
| dboddie_work | Sharebear: If you select "delegate" and your talk gets accepted, I'm sure things can be changed behind the scenes later. | 14:55 |
| Sharebear | Ok, will do | 14:55 |
| zeth | or if you choose speaker and your talk gets rejected, I'm sure things can be changed also | 14:56 |
| zeth | not really sure what the difference is? | 14:56 |
| dboddie_work | Yes. I mean, you should aspire to being a speaker, so just select that if you want. :-) | 14:56 |
| Sharebear | :-) | 14:57 |
| zeth | Spring into Pylons? | 14:57 |
| zeth | that is the talk right? | 14:57 |
| zeth | I have no power over this, but I would say be bold | 14:57 |
| Sharebear | Yes, that's the one | 14:58 |
| zeth | seems like a good talk to me | 14:59 |
| zeth | not that my view matters at all | 14:59 |
| Sharebear | hmmm, would have been a nice feature to have the destination bank details on the invoice itself | 15:01 |
| Sharebear | And that form submit gives me a security warning in Opera due to submitting data from secure to non secure page | 15:02 |
| zeth | give john a kick | 15:03 |
| zeth | or a copy of Opera perhaps ;) | 15:04 |
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| jacob22 | Previous years, we have accepted all people registering a talk as speakers. | 15:48 |
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| lac | what's the url for the agenda again? | 18:09 |
| dboddie_work | http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2008/IRCMeetings/IRCMeeting13 | 18:09 |
| lac | thank you | 18:15 |
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| stedi67 | hello everybody | 18:48 |
| lac | hi stedi67 | 18:50 |
| dboddie_work | Should be fun... | 18:57 |
| * dboddie_work holds on tight. | 18:57 | |
| lac | goodness, not many people here. | 19:03 |
| lac | can we have a show of hands of who is really around? | 19:03 |
| dboddie_work | Here! | 19:04 |
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| stedi67 | here | 19:05 |
| dboddie_work | I assume ghum is here for the meeting. | 19:05 |
| ghum | her he is | 19:06 |
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| pinner | Good evening :) | 19:06 |
| lac | hi john | 19:06 |
| dboddie_work | Hi | 19:06 |
| Aiste | hi all | 19:07 |
| pinner | Hi Laura, David and Aiste | 19:07 |
| pinner | I've recently posted EP2009 dates to the ep list, I hope they're OK | 19:08 |
| lac | I have one question -- which I posted -- does the absense of a weekend in your dates mean we cannot use the place for sprinting then? | 19:10 |
| lac | otherwise, looks great to me. | 19:10 |
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| jacob22_ | Hi! | 19:10 |
| ghum | hi jacob22, john, laura and david and Aiste | 19:10 |
| dboddie_work | OK. I guess we should start? | 19:11 |
| pinner | lac: No, I just haven't arranged any w/e sprinting yet, but Th/fr sprints are booked | 19:11 |
| lac | ok :-) | 19:11 |
| lac | looks like we should start. | 19:11 |
| pinner | lac: maybe we should have sprints on the weekend after, during the Jazz festival ;) | 19:12 |
| dboddie_work | Registration/budget: Status? | 19:12 |
| pinner | registration humming, 71 delegates to date, nightly status reports being issued to lac, pb and aiste | 19:13 |
| Aiste | not too bad | 19:13 |
| Aiste | btw anythng new about logos? | 19:13 |
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| Aiste | I would like to start t-shirt printing arrangements... | 19:13 |
| pinner | Aiste: a little up on same time last year, I think, Paul could confirm | 19:14 |
| dboddie_work | Tell everyone you know to register before the 31st May. That's the end of the early bird deadline. | 19:14 |
| pinner | Aiste: registration is reporting tee shirt orders by size, to help your ordering | 19:14 |
| lac | its ok for us to use our logo for europython. we will get official confirmation later from the PSF, but its ok | 19:15 |
| dboddie_work | lac: Sounds good! Thanks for solving that problem. | 19:15 |
| dboddie_work | pinner: http://www.europython.org/Planning/Projections | 19:16 |
| Aiste | lac: thanks a lot | 19:16 |
| pinner | lac: fyi, also OK for the PyCon UK Union Flag logo | 19:16 |
| Aiste | I will start the printing processs then ;) | 19:16 |
| dboddie_work | Anything we need to clear up with regards to the budget? | 19:16 |
| Aiste | or at least the preliminary stuff | 19:16 |
| lac | I want to know how food works into the budget now. | 19:17 |
| lac | but that is the last item on the agenda, so no need to start with it. | 19:17 |
| dboddie_work | OK. Shall we move on? | 19:18 |
| jacob22_ | Keynotes next? | 19:19 |
| dboddie_work | My only concern with keynotes is making sure that the speakers have a smooth ride. | 19:19 |
| lac | hans rosling is working on changing his keynote date from Monday until Tuesday | 19:19 |
| lac | but as it stands we are going to have 2 keynotes on Monday and none on Tuesday. | 19:20 |
| dboddie_work | I guess the schedule can be made to accommodate that. | 19:20 |
| dboddie_work | The agenda asks for biographical details. We can reuse Guido's but we need something for Hans, other than his Wikipedia entry, that is. | 19:21 |
| lac | I will send mail and ask him tonight. | 19:21 |
| jacob22_ | We should use the keynotes as a draw in our advertisments for the conference. | 19:22 |
| lac | (Actually, i can mail him right now.) | 19:22 |
| dboddie_work | jacob22_: The agenda also mentions an announcement. :-) | 19:22 |
| dboddie_work | jacob22_: I agree. We can reuse the bio details in adverts. | 19:23 |
| * dboddie_work edits the Wiki | 19:24 | |
| lac | mail to hans rosling sent | 19:25 |
| jacob22_ | Anything else about keynotes? No blockers on the wire transfer of Guido I hope. | 19:25 |
| dboddie_work | I think it's in hand. Anything new to report, Aiste? | 19:26 |
| Aiste | nope, everything is a ok ;) | 19:26 |
| jacob22_ | Ok, then I guess it is time for me to report on sponsors. | 19:27 |
| dboddie_work | Go ahead. | 19:27 |
| jacob22_ | Google will have a booth, regular sponsor. Logilab has signed up as lunch sponsor. Wingware and Activestate have signed up as gift sponsors, special deals. | 19:29 |
| jacob22_ | I have a couple more specials under negotiation. | 19:29 |
| dboddie_work | Excellent. | 19:29 |
| jacob22_ | I would be grateful for email addresses to places I should send offers for sponsorships. I don't have a lot of time to search websites. I took me something like 6 hours to dig up email addresses to sponsors of teh other conferences. | 19:30 |
| dboddie_work | Paul mentioned that he can set up banners once he has the images. | 19:31 |
| jacob22_ | dboddie_work: Great, I have a couple that I will send to him. | 19:31 |
| dboddie_work | Any suggestions for people/companies to contact? | 19:31 |
| dboddie_work | Are people working their contacts? ;-) | 19:32 |
| jacob22_ | I'm happy for anything. It doesn't hurt to send a short message to people, even if they say no thanks in the end. It's still a good way to publicise the existance of EuroPython. | 19:33 |
| pinner | how about Canonical, via Steve? | 19:34 |
| Aiste | I was just going to suggest that :) | 19:34 |
| dboddie_work | How about Sun? Aren't we expecting some people from Sun to come and talk about Jython? | 19:35 |
| pinner | Sun are having quite a good presence, Ted Leung is coming (keynote material?), but they won't be there Wednesday. | 19:36 |
| dboddie_work | And Opera are sending people, too, I've noticed. | 19:37 |
| pinner | See http://registration.europython.eu/talk_abstracts.html to see Jython stuff. Don't publish this URL yet please! | 19:37 |
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| jacob22_ | Please mail me email addresses and I will send them letters. | 19:37 |
| dboddie_work | pinner: You do realise this channel is logged!? | 19:37 |
| dboddie_work | Anyway, that answers the question in the agenda about talks. | 19:38 |
| pinner | dboddie_work:yes, but it's not super-secret | 19:38 |
| dboddie_work | :-) | 19:38 |
| pinner | jacob22_: you can get their email addresses from the europython-talks archives | 19:39 |
| dboddie_work | The deadline for talks is the 2nd? How are we doing for talks? | 19:39 |
| pinner | except for Ted, who is ... | 19:40 |
| jacob22_ | pinner: I'll see what I can dig up. Good idea. | 19:40 |
| * pinner looks it up | 19:40 | |
| pinner | ... Ted.Leung@Sun.com | 19:40 |
| pinner | dboddie_work: see that url, 48 talks AFAIR | 19:41 |
| Aiste | so we can expect some sort of conference timetable soonish? | 19:41 |
| lac | with the cancellation or without? | 19:41 |
| pinner | dboddie_work: although Philipp vi Weitershausen has just withdrawn | 19:41 |
| Aiste | the hotel is asking so that they could start their planning for food etc | 19:42 |
| lac | Aiste: why does the hotel need a talk schedule? | 19:42 |
| Aiste | they don't need a talk schedule :) | 19:42 |
| lac | or is it just 'what night is the dinner' they need to know? | 19:42 |
| pinner | The talks schedule is down to Samuele, I believe... | 19:42 |
| Aiste | they need our break schedule | 19:42 |
| lac | ah, that makes sense. | 19:42 |
| Aiste | lac: yep, for lunch and coffee breaks | 19:43 |
| pinner | ...although I'm getting the schedule web page done, I think | 19:43 |
| lac | I will see about making a schedule with time for breaks this weekend even if we don't have | 19:43 |
| lac | the final 'which talk goes where' | 19:43 |
| lac | worked out. OK? | 19:43 |
| Aiste | ok, thanks a lot | 19:43 |
| lac | Dinner Tuesdaqy night ok with the hotel? | 19:44 |
| lac | and what are we doing about food in the breaks? | 19:44 |
| lac | dboddie_work: are you going to post this log to the wiki when we're done? if so can you remove the link ohn doesn't want published and ted's email address? | 19:45 |
| Aiste | yes | 19:45 |
| Aiste | food in the breaks are going to be wraps | 19:45 |
| Aiste | more substantial than sandwiches of the last year -- tried them myself | 19:45 |
| lac | what sort, how many, because we had major complaints about food last yer. | 19:46 |
| Aiste | different fillings, for vegans, vegetarians, fish haters, meat eaters, etc | 19:46 |
| Aiste | we had major complaints that there was not enough food | 19:46 |
| Aiste | that is fixed i think | 19:46 |
| lac | yes and that the bread was lousy. so this will be different at any rate. | 19:47 |
| Aiste | yes :) | 19:47 |
| Aiste | I will go again soonish and will try all different sorts of them | 19:47 |
| dboddie_work | lac: I'm updating the agenda page with a summary. | 19:47 |
| Aiste | just to see that they all are substantial enough | 19:47 |
| lac | are we set so that if we run out of food, as we did last time, we can just get more? | 19:47 |
| lac | and if so how much would it cost? | 19:47 |
| pinner | Aiste:watch the waistline ;) | 19:47 |
| Aiste | it is difficult, but I will try to get some sort of a deal in case we run out | 19:48 |
| Aiste | or simply order more and then if it's too much -- ask for less for the next day | 19:48 |
| Aiste | how does that sound? | 19:48 |
| Aiste | pinner: yep :) my horse is taking care of that | 19:48 |
| pinner | Aiste: sounds sensible | 19:49 |
| lac | sounds sensible to me. | 19:49 |
| Aiste | good | 19:49 |
| lac | assuming the cost is not too much, but looks like it won't be. | 19:49 |
| lac | ifd last year is any indication. | 19:49 |
| Aiste | well, food costs are about 10% more than last year | 19:50 |
| lac | do we have coffee reserved for the sprint days? | 19:50 |
| Aiste | and this option is more expensive than sandwiches, but we ended up ordering twice the amount last year anyway | 19:50 |
| Aiste | lac: yes | 19:50 |
| Aiste | do we need anything else other than coffe? | 19:50 |
| Aiste | i.e. fruit or some such? | 19:50 |
| lac | how much would that cost? | 19:51 |
| lac | pichers of cold water and tea would be nice | 19:51 |
| Aiste | I will look it up, but I think something like 10lt per person per portion | 19:51 |
| Aiste | ok, tea and water will definitely be there | 19:51 |
| lac | we don't really know how many people are sprinting. | 19:51 |
| lac | but that doesn't seem to be a huge expense. | 19:52 |
| lac | Anything more on the agenda? | 19:53 |
| jacob22_ | There was an item about sponsoring attendees. | 19:53 |
| dboddie_work | And one about video licensing and streaming. | 19:54 |
| Aiste | lac: i think we can order stuff for sprint at the beginning of the conference or on the second day, when we will now the number of people sprinting | 19:54 |
| * zeth has been here but is lurking quietly, trying to sort his life out so he flys to the right places | 19:54 | |
| jacob22_ | Does anyone have anything there? Any applicants? Any people we want to invite? | 19:54 |
| pinner | Hello Zeth | 19:55 |
| zeth | Hi John | 19:55 |
| dboddie_work | jacob22_: Can't think of anyone. | 19:55 |
| pinner | jacob22_: nor me | 19:56 |
| zeth | (I am supposed to be sent by the uni to a random place called munster the week before europython, so am trying to work out if I come back and fly with pinner or take the train to Berlin and go from there) | 19:56 |
| stedi67 | there is a connection with baltic air from berlin to vilnius | 19:57 |
| dboddie_work | zeth and stedi67 can discuss this after the meeting, I'm sure. | 19:57 |
| stedi67 | sure | 19:57 |
| dboddie_work | Are we going to do something about the talk licensing thing on the registration form? | 19:57 |
| dboddie_work | There was much debate about that on the list. | 19:58 |
| pinner | dboddie_work: not on the registration form | 19:58 |
| zeth | what was the general outcome of the deabte? | 19:58 |
| pinner | I have put it on the talks submission form, but that's been too late for most of the talks | 19:58 |
| lac | the mal wants a 'default is opt out' not 'default is opt in' policy. | 19:59 |
| jacob22_ | I think some speakers want a more restrictive license on the distribution of their talks. | 19:59 |
| zeth | you don't want to make a big thing that you are recording beforehand, otherwise people might not come but just stay on their sofas and listen to the talks | 19:59 |
| pinner | mal is the most vociferous, I thnk most are happy to give permission anywat | 19:59 |
| pinner | anyway | 19:59 |
| dboddie_work | I guess we'll just have to ask them when they arrive or give talks. :-( | 20:00 |
| dboddie_work | We have e-mail addresses for them, so we could ask them in advance. | 20:00 |
| zeth | well we did that at Pyconuk and it worked okay that way. Then you don't need t oask if you mess up the recording | 20:00 |
| dboddie_work | So, no action for this item? | 20:01 |
| zeth | well someone should be in charge of checking the forms during the conference | 20:01 |
| zeth | I mean, someone should tally up who we have permission from | 20:01 |
| dboddie_work | zeth: I'll add a note to the minutes. | 20:02 |
| zeth | and then give out forms to those who don't | 20:02 |
| zeth | cool | 20:02 |
| pinner | I know who has given permission already | 20:02 |
| dboddie_work | OK. Shall we call for volunteers for recording, or is it too early? | 20:02 |
| pinner | It's never too early | 20:02 |
| Aiste | I have to run away now | 20:03 |
| zeth | what are you recording video or audio? | 20:03 |
| dboddie_work | Aiste: See you. | 20:03 |
| dboddie_work | zeth: Depends. I think MrTopf wants to do video. | 20:03 |
| Aiste | i will get a person responsible for taking care of streaming next week hopefully | 20:03 |
| dboddie_work | Aiste: Cool. Thanks. | 20:03 |
| pinner | Aiste: have a good evening, say hi to the horse for me | 20:03 |
| Aiste | talk to you next week ;) | 20:03 |
| Aiste | thanks pinner :) | 20:04 |
| dboddie_work | I guess it's time to test the volunteers list. It would be good to know exactly what to ask for, so we should find MrTopf and talk. | 20:04 |
| lac | ok, take care everybody and thank you for coming | 20:04 |
| dboddie_work | Agenda/minutes here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2008/IRCMeetings/IRCMeeting13 | 20:05 |
| * pinner needs to go as well, and wants to know is there anything more for him? | 20:06 | |
| pinner | dboddie_work: thanks | 20:06 |
| jacob22_ | I have an agenda item for next week: Organising sponsors - what do we award companies that are active in organising EuroPython? | 20:06 |
| dboddie_work | jacob22_: I'll add it to the list. | 20:06 |
| pinner | jacob22_: just glory ;) | 20:07 |
| jacob22_ | pinner: That sounds like a banner on the web page to me. ;-) | 20:07 |
| zeth | what price on glory? | 20:07 |
| zeth | That seems to be the end, night all | 20:08 |
| pinner | jacob22: I wonder, the Strakt banner did not have a good reaction at PyCon US in Washington | 20:08 |
| pinner | Good night everyone, have a good one, I need to be off | 20:09 |
| zeth | night John | 20:10 |
| lac | night john | 20:10 |
| stedi67 | good night | 20:10 |
| dboddie_work | zeth: I'm sure stedi67 can help you navigate Europe. | 20:11 |
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| stedi67 | I'm still hanging on :-) | 20:11 |
| zeth | cheers! All calling all Germans ;) | 20:11 |
| dboddie_work | zeth: Helping you to book trains and things... | 20:11 |
| ghum | here we are | 20:11 |
| zeth | Well basically I am in some place called Munster until the Friday | 20:11 |
| ghum | and there is allways maps.google.de, by google., which is a glory sponsor of EP | 20:11 |
| zeth | and the flights are really cheap from Berlin | 20:11 |
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| stedi67 | there is a fast train from munster to berlin (aprox 4h traveltime) | 20:12 |
| zeth | So one idea is to get from Munster to Berlin on Friday, spend Sat in Berlin and fly on Sun | 20:12 |
| zeth | is that feasible? | 20:12 |
| stedi67 | sure | 20:12 |
| zeth | have you been to Berlin? | 20:12 |
| ghum | berlin is cool place to he | 20:13 |
| zeth | Can I go around in a day? | 20:13 |
| stedi67 | I'm living there :-) | 20:13 |
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| ghum | be | 20:13 |
| zeth | oh cool | 20:13 |
| ghum | yeah, of course. it is only the capital of germany :):) | 20:13 |
| lac | there is way too much berlin to see in one day. But you can have a great time in any case | 20:13 |
| ghum | not more effort then the Python standard library :) | 20:13 |
| zeth | any ideas on where to stay? | 20:13 |
| ghum | how much are you willing to pay / night? | 20:14 |
| stedi67 | probably at my place, if you won't mind | 20:14 |
| stedi67 | I'll take the flight on sunday to europython. | 20:14 |
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| ghum | so I guess Berlin is covered for zeth ... | 20:15 |
| ghum | mese will go to ... | 20:15 |
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| zeth | stedi67: that would be fab | 20:16 |
| zeth | stedi67: really kind offer | 20:16 |
| zeth | can your floor/sofa take two? | 20:16 |
| stedi67 | well, my wife is already used to strange python persons being here :-) | 20:16 |
| stedi67 | are you seeing the private chat I opened? | 20:17 |
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| zeth | I have a flight to Lithunia! | 23:49 |
| skd | congratulations! | 23:52 |
| lac | :-) | 23:54 |
| lac | and a place to sleep in Berlin? | 23:54 |
| zeth | yeah I think so | 23:55 |
| zeth | stedi67 has offered his sofa | 23:55 |
| zeth | pretty cool | 23:55 |
| zeth | And while I am in Germany, I have found a Linux group on | 23:56 |
| zeth | near where I am on the Tuesday 1st | 23:56 |
| zeth | near where I will be on the Tuesday 1st | 23:56 |
| zeth | Python groups are harder to find, will need to look at a map | 23:59 |
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