IRC log of #europython for Thursday, 2008-05-01

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pboddieOK, so there should be a meeting around now, according to the weekly schedule.18:51
pboddieI forgot to send a mail out, but I'm sure that a lot of people know the routine.18:52
pboddieAgenda was posted here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2008/IRCMeetings/IRCMeeting1118:55
pboddieAnyone?19:00
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david_boddieHi!19:01
pboddieI guess no-one else is going to show up. Perhaps the logs will be the main beneficiary of this meeting.19:05
david_boddieWell, we can wait a while longer. People usually show up during discussions.19:07
pboddieAnd there's the time zone issue, too.19:08
david_boddieOK, well, the only development that I have to report is on the tutorials.19:09
david_boddieI contacted Stefan Behnel and he wants to give a tutorial about lxml. I suggested that we could schedule something like that alongside talks.19:10
pboddieI think the Call for Participation is broad enough that anyone wanting to submit tutorials could send in a proposal for that, if they wanted.19:11
david_boddieHe thinks we should schedule some time each day for a tutorial slot.19:11
david_boddieSo, we could potentially do a tutorial on each day of the conference.19:12
pboddieOK. Well, regarding some of the other points...19:13
pboddieRegistration: it would seem that PayPal will be the payment system if the paperwork gets through (which it hopefully will, given the recent correspondence on the matter).19:14
david_boddie(Yes, those were just his suggestions. I should probably just forward on that information to the mailing list.)19:14
pboddieThere's really nothing else on the agenda that I can comment on.19:14
pboddieJohn brought up the matter of using PyCon UK's talks Web page mechanism, but in a EuroPython wrapper, but...19:15
pboddie1) It's too late: we've already told people where to send their talks.19:15
pboddie2) Sending talks to a mail address is what other conferences do - it's not rocket science.19:15
pboddie3) I'm becoming reluctant to do any more Web-related stuff.19:16
david_boddieThe idea of using a mailing list was to allow us to get at the raw information and put it into a system, if required.19:16
david_boddieThere should be no problem with switching at a later point, to allow people to upload slides, for example.19:16
pboddieIndeed, the Wiki should really be sufficient for this, if we don't want to develop a fancy but nasty CMS solution.19:19
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Aiste_hi people, sorry I'm late19:21
pboddieAiste_: Hello! I'm not sure if there's much to discuss, and it's only me and Dave currently.19:21
Aiste_got lost on the border crossing :)19:21
Aiste_ah, right19:21
pboddieWhich border?!19:22
Aiste_Polish Lithuanian :)19:22
Aiste_it's a day off today here in Lithuania19:22
pboddieAh, not a difficult one, then!19:22
Aiste_and tomorrow and Monday as well19:22
Aiste_so we have a 5 day weekend19:22
pboddieYes, it's a public drinking holiday in Norway, too. Tomorrow isn't a holiday, though.19:22
Aiste_heh, here it is19:23
david_boddieAiste_: Right, so we shouldn't keep you here for too long, then.19:23
Aiste_I'm afraid i won't be able to keep myself here long either -- long night last night19:23
pboddieI guess you've already seen the mails about registration, which are really about the mechanics of the Web page, connections to payment systems, and so on.19:23
Aiste_yes. I had19:24
Aiste_nothing about tshirts though, which is a bit annoying19:24
Aiste_as we do need to print the m in advance if we do at all19:24
pboddieI don't think anyone will say anything until mid-May, given previous experiences. There'll be a sudden waking up and "Oh, did someone mention T-shirts?"19:25
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Aiste_sorry, xchat crashed19:25
david_boddieYes, it would be good to follow up on Harald's suggestion about xkcd.19:25
Aiste_yeah, that's possible, mid May is not that late though19:26
david_boddieI don't know if he was going to do that, or if it was just a suggestion.19:26
david_boddieI'll have to scroll back in the logs when I'm in work tomorrow.19:26
pboddieMid-May was just a guess. Who knows what schedule people really have?19:26
pboddieI think the main sticking point involving you and/or local people was the connectivity: GvR's video link and any possibilities for video streaming.19:27
Aiste_my guess is that it's doable19:29
Aiste_I will talk to the hotel people next week -- have been busy with moving offfices for some time19:30
david_boddieAiste_: Looking at the agenda, the only other thing I can see which you might be able to clear up is last year's surveys.19:31
Aiste_i think we did paper surveys yes?19:31
Aiste_and then handed them to John Pinner if I recall correctly19:32
pboddieNo problem! The video link is obviously central to the "GvR experience", whereas the streaming thing is something which we haven't managed to get to grips with. I think it's a good idea, but I'm not sure we have full "buy in", and without that there's a risk we'll end up not doing it.19:32
david_boddieAiste_: OK. I'm not sure how much we really need to mine the results now.19:32
pboddiedavid_boddie: John has the surveys.19:32
david_boddieWell, as long as there were no surprises in there. I'm sure he would have said something if there were.19:33
david_boddieIs there anything going on behind the scenes with sponsorship?19:33
Aiste_pboddie: as far as GVR goes we are talking to people about getting the special equipment needed tothe hotel, so there is progress19:33
pboddiedavid_boddie: Not that I've heard.19:33
pboddieAiste_: Great! I'm sure the Google machine can make this happen. ;-)19:34
david_boddieKeynotes? Who makes sure that the other guy has somewhere to stay?19:34
Aiste_I think last year they talked to the hotel directly19:35
Aiste_and then there was an arrangement of refunding their costs or something like that19:35
pboddieI guess I can send a message to Laura and ask her what the situation is.19:36
david_boddieRight. I heard that Laura was handling that, so presumably it's all happening.19:36
david_boddieOther than just pushing people to submit talks and prepare to register, is there anything else we can do?19:36
pboddieI'll send a message to John about the audio/video policy, too. He can then decide whether that should go on the registration page or not.19:37
pboddiedavid_boddie: I'd like to see a lot more publicity going on. I've done some stuff, but we should avoid the drop in talks that we experienced last year.19:37
Aiste_yeah, that would be good19:37
pboddieAiste_: What's the publicity situation like in your "neighbourhood"?19:38
Aiste_it's quite good, people are interested and we are spreading info through our local channels19:38
david_boddiepboddie: Shall we duplicate http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations for 2008?19:39
pboddieAre they interested in doing talks? Last year there was a guy from Russia (I think) who gave an off-programme talk about a video sharing site which was arguably better than many of the on-programme talks.19:39
pboddiedavid_boddie: http://www.europython.org/community/Planning/Publicity19:40
Aiste_I'm not sure about the russians I will poke them19:40
Aiste_Lithuanians are too inexperienced (appart from my guys) to do any talks19:40
pboddieIt was interesting to look at the distribution of attendees last year. Quite a few people from Poland!19:41
Aiste_yeah, well they have a big python community, but it is very introvert if you can say so19:42
Aiste_they do not share anything with the outside world it seems19:42
pboddieI should probably send a message to no.it.programmering.python, although it's quite dormant.19:43
david_boddieWell, I'll try and fill in some of gaps in that table.19:44
Aiste_ok, and I'll talk to the russian guys and maybe try to persuade my boys to give some talks19:45
Aiste_is it ok if I go now? :) I'm trying not to fall asleep and that does not help comming up with good ideas19:45
pboddieI think you know the local scene(s) best. Dave and I will try and tackle the wider community.19:45
pboddieYes, I think we've discussed everything we need to. I'll send mails to John and Laura.19:46
david_boddieAiste_: See you!19:46
Aiste_ok, thanks, talk to you later19:46
Aiste_bye19:46
pboddieAiste_: Bye!19:46
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