IRC log of #meego for Saturday, 2012-03-24

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Texratanyone home?04:25
wmarone_hmm04:26
wmarone_sorta04:26
wmarone_europe hasn't quite woken up yet04:26
Texratyeah it'll be a while04:28
Texratbut hey William!04:28
wmarone_hi04:28
wmarone_just got back in myself04:28
TexratI'm helping out in the #opentablets channel04:28
wmarone_cool04:28
Texratthey're troubleshooting new forum04:28
Texratyou signed up yet?04:28
wmarone_nope, didn't know there was one04:28
Texratthat's why I'm here ;)04:29
Texratopentablets.org04:29
Texratwill be the home for the KDE/Mer Vivaldi tablet04:29
wmarone_oh, new name I see04:29
Texratright04:29
Texratlegal issues04:29
wmarone_no surprise04:29
Texratyep04:29
wmarone_fancy name though :)04:29
Texratso I'm out spreading the word04:29
Texratyeah, apparently "valdi" by itself means "board"04:30
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Texratand "viva" means life, sooo04:30
wmarone_and it's a composer's name too04:30
Texratright04:30
wmarone_that wouldn't be a bad name to follow for a series of tablets04:30
wmarone_bad theme*04:30
Texratagreed04:31
Texratdual processor version could be Vivaldi Duet :D04:31
wmarone_ha04:31
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Texratso yeah I'm hoping to see you there04:33
Texrathey astalsi04:33
Texratwmarone_, astalsi is one of the opentablets admins04:34
astalsiHi! Figured I'd come at least watch, if not be able to answer anything that pops up04:34
Texratastalsi, wmarone_ is one of the maemo/meego mad skills guys04:34
astalsicool!04:34
TexratI'm luring him over04:35
astalsithe more the merrier04:35
Texratso many maemo and meego folks have been begging for a new venture04:35
TexratVivaldi is creating a lot of excitement04:35
Texratthis could pull so many of us back together04:36
astalsiAlways nice to see =)04:37
Texratthere's been a lot of talent looking for a project ;)04:37
astalsiI unfortunately cant say I've been involved with maemo/meego before, so I'm sure you all will come at it from a totally different direction than I do04:37
Texratwell, the OS for Vivaldi has maemo and meego DNA04:38
TexratMer was originally an attempt at a 100% open, community-built maemo04:38
wmarone_yeah, nook color has been a killjoy04:38
astalsicool!04:39
Texratwmaron_ I'd be glad to see Mer on one of those HP tablets... would be nice if more became available04:39
wmarone_heh04:39
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wmarone_I need to stop looking at ebay04:40
wmarone_heheh04:40
Texratlol04:40
wmarone_I keep trying to pick up an old fujitsu u820 on the cheap, but people seem willing to pay more than I am for one04:40
TexratI would have been happy to get one of those ExoPCs I helped give away04:41
Texratman I have a million things to do but sooo sleepy...04:46
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Texratso who else hasn't joined opentablets.org yet?05:09
rasteri'd argue almost everyone on this planet hasnt joined it05:15
Texratheh05:21
TexratI would think the meeg and maemo crowd would be all over it ;)05:21
Texratmeego*05:21
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rasterwell in any case - i dont see anything in it for me :)05:24
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Texratraster but there is in meego?  ;)05:27
rasternot that much either :)05:29
rasterespecially since there isnt any momentum now05:29
Texratso what brings you to the channel tonight?05:29
rasteri just lurk here :)05:30
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rasterits in my channel list that always get joined05:30
Texratah05:30
rasteri'm curious if meego will somehow be brought back to life05:32
rasterand yes - i know "its an open source project on its own"05:33
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TexratI think that going forward Mer is the way to go, hence opentablets.org05:33
rastermore to the point that if it gains lots of backing and momentum - it'd be interesting05:33
rasterthe vivaldi is kind of interesting there05:33
TexratI can't see MeeGo coming back, sadly05:33
rasterbut mer is its own project anyway05:34
rasteryeah05:34
Texratwell Mer will be on Vivaldi05:34
rasterbut for mer to succeed it's going to need oems backing it05:34
Texratit would sure help05:34
rasterthe reality is that if u dont ship on oem devices.. it's nothing more than a fun sunday hack :)05:34
rasterto get driver support and actual proper integration needs that05:34
Texratwell they've actually managed to make progress on drivers thanks to KDE05:35
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rastererrrrrrr05:37
rasteri dont see how kde and drivers have anything to do with eachother05:37
rasterie kde helping drivers be written05:37
rasterfor things like 3d u nee closed drivers only made avbailable to oem's05:38
rasterand u have to do display system integration based on that closed code05:38
rasterif u are lucky the 3d gpu maker did some for u05:38
rasterbut only if its mainstream - or by pure pot luck05:38
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Texratif I understand correctly, raster, KDE convinced at least one vendor to OPEN a driver for Vivaldi05:43
rasterwhat driver?05:45
TexratI don't reall offhand05:46
Texratreall*05:46
Texraterrr05:46
TexratRECALL05:46
Texratlol05:46
rasterin this case kde is acting as an oem05:47
rastereffectively05:47
Texratin essence, yeah05:47
rasterso it'll be drivers for that device only05:47
rasteru dont need them open05:47
rasteru just need them working and integrated and tested05:48
rasteropen is just a bonus05:48
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Texratright05:54
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Timmy_i have a question, what are doing here? i mean meego is a dead project, but u still come here. it means that you will continue developing meego or there is no reason for being here? :)17:14
ferromer project is still developing meego17:20
ferroand nokia too I think has some developers working on it17:20
iekku:nod:17:21
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SrishAkaTuxHi all , I would like to know is there any text to speech Meego API ?17:37
Timmy_does phone work on meego 1.1 for n900?17:37
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Timmy_how can i test/run an arm based meego image of phone devices on computer?17:48
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thiagoqemu17:48
Timmy_how will qemu boot that os? there is no uboot or bootloader to do this17:49
thiagoit will straight-out load the kernel17:50
thiagoor you won't load the kernel -- it will emulate the ARM syscalls on your desktop kernel17:50
Timmy_thiago: u mean it's just enough to use the image as the disk?17:52
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thiagono17:58
thiagoyou need to read some of the development tutorials17:59
thiagoI have never tried what you're asking17:59
thiagoI've only run the images once they were expanded, using mic-chroot17:59
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