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CosmoHilllook! a ceiling!00:02
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pixelgeek1"(9:47:53 AM) CosmoHill: pixelgeek: I didn't know you worked for Intel" <- and now you do :)01:27
CosmoHillhaving fun with latency there?01:27
pixelgeek1Too many mtgs01:27
CosmoHillmtgs?01:27
pixelgeek1meetings01:27
CosmoHilldid you really need to shorten that?01:28
pixelgeek1y01:28
pixelgeek1:)01:28
CosmoHillhehe01:28
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DawnFosterCosmoHill: here at Intel, we can make whole sentences out of acronyms & shortened words :)01:34
CosmoHillyou people must love texting01:34
CosmoHillhttp://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/album.php?albumid=8&pictureid=114 :)01:35
w00tDawnFoster: i had a great moment in a conversation the other day.. I asked what an acronym meant that someone had used in conversation.. "I don't know, actually"01:35
w00tparody is dead01:36
DawnFosterw00t: been there :)01:36
DawnFostersometimes I know what they *mean* but not what they originally stood for01:36
w00tyes01:36
w00tthis one means "lots of paperwork"01:36
w00tI'd like to know what it stood for though :-)01:36
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CosmoHillspeaking of acronyms01:38
CosmoHillhtml: .o/01:38
htmlhi01:38
htmlwhat about e?01:39
htmlme?01:39
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CosmoHillhtml is an acronym01:39
htmlits also whats the net is build on01:41
CosmoHillnight night01:44
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linui want to know the baisics of meego?10:06
linuabner: i want  to know the base of meego?10:08
Stskeepsmeego's it's own base10:08
linuits a project part of our study. i am new to this topic. i want to learn Qt programing. can u suggest best article for it.10:10
RST38hMoo, all10:13
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linuhow we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications10:21
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linuchayin:how we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications10:47
linumkeir:how we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications?10:48
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AsmageddonHello20:08
Stskeepshi20:09
AsmageddonHow do I dual boot Meego and Cyanogen Mod?20:09
AsmageddonI've got bootmenu and CM already installed20:09
AsmageddonAnd I'd like to check MeeGo out, potentially switching permanently20:10
Stskeepson what device?20:11
AsmageddonMotorola DEFY20:11
AsmageddonI don't really know how to install MeeGo at all20:11
AsmageddonTBH I don't even know how to dual boot anything using bootmenu20:11
AsmageddonI'd install GRUB but bootmenu has got recovery and other stuff I need for now20:12
Stskeepsdoubt that runs meego :)20:12
CosmoHill.o/20:12
AsmageddonWhy not?20:13
AsmageddonMeeGo runs on ARMEL doesn't it?20:13
Stskeepsyeah, ok, it's a omap361020:13
Stskeepsit might run meego then, but you do need to do a lot of leg work yourself20:14
AsmageddonAs long as somebody tells me how to I don't mind20:14
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AsmageddonOh right... I better start making a backup just in case20:14
Stskeepsas in, you need to do a lot of technical leg work yourself20:14
Stskeepscompiling linux kernels, etc20:14
AsmageddonDon't mind that20:15
AsmageddonI've got everything required to build one here20:15
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AsmageddonWaiting few hours doesn't bother me much20:15
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Stskeepsknow how to flash your own rootfs to it?20:17
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AsmageddonNooot really20:17
AsmageddonI've installed CM following a guide20:17
Stskeepsokay, then that's probably going to be a tough ride for you :)20:17
AsmageddonI don't mind. I find learning pleasant20:17
AsmageddonAnd learning helps me cope with depression and thoughts of my own uselessness20:18
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Stskeepsokay, so, sort out how to 1) boot your own linux kernel on it and 2) how to boot your own root file system on it20:18
Stskeepsthis is specific per device and motorola defy isn't exactly a supported device, so i have no idea about it20:18
AsmageddonI see20:19
AsmageddonIs there a way to do it using bootmenu?20:19
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Stskeepsi don't know about bootmenu :)20:19
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Stskeepsin addition to that.. what do you expect from it?20:19
AsmageddonIt lets you run different init scripts for Android, has backup/recovery tools, etc.20:19
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AsmageddonI expect it to run and at the very least work with touchscreen and WiFi or 3G20:20
AsmageddonWould be sweet if it would run flawlessly20:20
AsmageddonSo, where do I download MeeGo and what do I download?20:21
Stskeepsright, the thing is, you'd have to do most of this work yourself :)20:21
Stskeepsie set up touchscreen, wifi, 3g support20:21
AsmageddonI've got plenty of time, I don't mind20:22
Stskeepsand in the end you might not even be able to make voicecalls with it20:22
AsmageddonI don't mind, this is for !!SCIENCE!! and not being useful in any way20:22
Stskeepsokay, i'd recommend you to figure out the first two, booting your own linux kernel and 2) booting your own file system20:23
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Stskeepsafter that's solved, the world is open for you20:23
AsmageddonOk20:23
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AsmageddonI've seen some guides for getting Debian on Android phones that covered this part20:23
Stskeepsright, they're usually chroots20:24
Stskeepsyou need to actually boot the system20:24
AsmageddonI've already got debian in chroot here, I mean there were few about dual booting20:25
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Asmageddonlet me reboot into bootmenu and mount /system ....20:26
Stskeepsbesides that, remember meego as a project is kinda dead - there's two paths people went, www.merproject.org - focusing on a core, open governance, and tizen, intel and samsung's html5-centered stack20:27
AsmageddonOh...20:27
AsmageddonThen what? Maemo?20:27
Stskeepsmaemo isn't open source20:27
AsmageddonMhm20:28
AsmageddonMeh, I'll go with MeeGo20:28
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AsmageddonExcept I really don't know where to even start :/20:36
Stskeepsbooting your own linux kernel first, then booting your own file system20:36
AsmageddonYeah....20:37
AsmageddonI'd know how to do this on a desktop with grub, but I don't even know where android's image is on my phone....20:37
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AsmageddonLooks like Android kernel is on /boot but I don't know how to access it20:44
AsmageddonI only know how to get into /system and /userdata20:44
AsmageddonHmmm. Perhaps via ADB20:45
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AsmageddonOne more thing Stskeeps - I've got really slow internet, so could you link me to whatever I need to download so it finished by the time I figure it all out?20:52
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Stskeepsthat's another topic, i'd start out with one of the nokia n900 images20:57
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AsmageddonWhere can I get it?20:57
Stskeepsrepo.meego.com20:57
AsmageddonThere's a lot of stuff there, what should I pick?20:58
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