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| Ganymede | I've been told that MeeGo with the stock desktop environment will be easier on the battery than OpenBox? Is that actually true because the stock GUI seems to have fancy OpenGL ES effects. It could be reasonable if doing that stuff of the GPU is actually more efficient than doing that stuff on the CPU... | 01:54 |
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| CosmoHill | hey Alison_Chaiken | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | Ganymede: i need to reread that a few times for it to make sense | 01:55 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Hey, CosmoHill. Just came back from a funeral for a buddy who got laid off from EBay, then immediately killed himself. | 01:56 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Dudes, there is nothing about software projects that | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | oh god | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | *my | 01:56 |
| * CosmoHill hugs Alison_Chaiken | 01:56 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | 's worth that: nothing. There are flowers and trees and bicycles and beer! | 01:56 |
| Ganymede | Okay, let me shave off a little bit. Would an OpenBox session consume less power than MeeGo's stock desktop environment/WM? | 01:56 |
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| CosmoHill | Ganymede: it's possible that if you run graphics stuff on the graphics card rather than the processor it would save power | 01:58 |
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| CosmoHill | whilst the graphics might be faster than the processor it might use more power in doing so | 01:58 |
| Ganymede | Okay, that's what I meant by my second sentence in the original question. | 01:58 |
| Ganymede | Or...third. | 01:58 |
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| CosmoHill | however the kernel and drivers also affect the power usage | 01:59 |
| Ganymede | Okay...I guess I have no way to know except to test... | 02:00 |
| CosmoHill | how do you plan to test this? | 02:01 |
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| Ganymede | ...I've using stock MeeGo so I guess I'll just ... eyeball it. | 02:03 |
| Ganymede | Like...ballpark it. | 02:04 |
| Ganymede | If I never find out the answer, then it's clear that it doesn't matter. | 02:04 |
| CosmoHill | there's software that can measure the power usage | 02:04 |
| CosmoHill | you could use a power meter on the charger but I'd recommend you remove the battery when doing that | 02:04 |
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| ShadowJK | When acpi/whatever says battery is full and not charging, it's lying most of the time. :) | 02:16 |
| MSM | :) | 02:17 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: could you possibly disable the IRC program from automatically connecting to channels | 02:27 |
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| Myrtti | oh sweet jebus | 02:29 |
| CosmoHill | Myrtti: yes | 02:29 |
| ShadowJK | ... | 02:29 |
| CosmoHill | I just hope that the highlight makes the program draw the attention of the user | 02:29 |
| Myrtti | :-( | 02:30 |
| * CosmoHill hugs Myrtti | 02:30 | |
| Myrtti | tearjerker of the day... | 02:30 |
| ShadowJK | I guess there isn't really any established etiquette for tactfully adressing the internet ghosts of beloved people who've left us.. | 02:30 |
| Myrtti | oh man | 02:30 |
| Myrtti | good night | 02:30 |
| CosmoHill | bye Myrtti | 02:30 |
| ShadowJK | personally I feel it's like this nice beacon of their memory that persists not only within us, but also in cyberspace :) | 02:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I doubt this is the right way to deal with this | 03:02 |
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| ShadowJK | let echoes echo | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie and me both worked with freenode staff to kline the bouncer, and last info was this time the kline should last a bit longer than last time. Obviously not. Anyway I banned lcuk* on all chan where I got +o, as that's neither funny nor pleasant | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suggest you do the same here | 03:06 |
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| niala | night | 03:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hope this time freenode staff got it right | 04:02 |
| jayne | only as long as the IP remains the same (which it seems it didn't, last time) | 04:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I asked for enforce, dunno if corey has set it on the account | 04:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | klines are useless on dynamic IPs | 04:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | freezing the account is useless if the bouncer logs in nevertheless | 04:04 |
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| zeroproximity1 | what phones can you hack to install meego? | 08:16 |
| hatake_kakashi | N900 and aava: https://www.meego.com/devices/handset | 08:25 |
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| cityLights | hi, any news regarding when the N9 is due? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | it's better to ask nokia about it, but i think it's shipping | 10:04 |
| cityLights | now? | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 10:05 |
| tar-gz | Can i install meego in LG KP 500? | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | you probably can't | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | it's armv4t, which means meego won't run, as a start | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:06 |
| tar-gz | I have meego in netbooks, How can i change zones using keyboards? | 10:07 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | tar-gz, I actually figured that out recently, but somehow I need to refigure it out every single time! I think it was "sudo tzset" or "sudo tzdata." You may have to zyp in an additional package. | 10:14 |
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| tar-gz | How can i add something to panel? | 10:52 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 11:49 |
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| TAsnw | CosmoHill, morning | 11:49 |
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| CosmoHill | how are you? | 11:56 |
| CosmoHill | well that's one way to answer | 11:56 |
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| chouchoune | should the MeeGo 1.3 CE ia32 image work on an ExoPC ? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | give it a try | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | possibly? | 15:11 |
| chouchoune | actually, it's booting | 15:11 |
| matrixx | chouhoune: it works but is live only | 15:11 |
| chouchoune | but after some time, the screens becomes black | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:11 |
| chouchoune | and I don't know how to reactivate it | 15:12 |
| matrixx | the same happens to me | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | as said, proof of concept | 15:12 |
| matrixx | it's a good start | 15:12 |
| chouchoune | yes, very good start | 15:12 |
| chouchoune | just asked to know if there is a knows workaround ;) | 15:13 |
| matrixx | if there is, I would also like to know | 15:13 |
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| chouchoune | I'll try with a keyboard | 15:14 |
| matrixx | though already installed the tablet image with plasma active | 15:14 |
| chouchoune | nice, is there an image with Plasma Active ? | 15:15 |
| matrixx | there is | 15:15 |
| chouchoune | keyboard doesn't help | 15:16 |
| matrixx | google meego plasma active | 15:16 |
| matrixx | don't have the link right now | 15:16 |
| chouchoune | found, thanks | 15:18 |
| matrixx | great | 15:18 |
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| matrixx | chouchoune, jukkaeklund told me I should let CE to settle down for a couple minutes before doing anything after boot | 15:19 |
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| chouchoune | ah | 15:20 |
| matrixx | might help for the black screen issue | 15:20 |
| chouchoune | will try while downloading Plasma Active | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | as said, proof of concept :P | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | so we need to fix some basic stuff | 15:21 |
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| chouchoune | it's already quite successful as it boots and the interface looks OK | 15:21 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:21 |
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| vgrade | chouchoune, matrixx, there are some instuctions here which may help with Exopc black screen, https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20266 | 16:15 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 20266 maj, High, ---, yong.y.wang, NEW, [Toshiba NB 305 / Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t] fails to resume from suspend | 16:15 |
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| Stskeeps | it actually ogoes into suspend? | 16:15 |
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| chouchoune | vgrade: it soesn't go into suspend | 16:22 |
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| vgrade | chouchoune, sorry, misunderstood | 16:38 |
| vgrade | so screen blanks randomly | 16:38 |
| chouchoune | vgrade: it blanks after some time | 16:39 |
| chouchoune | few seconds | 16:39 |
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| chouchoune | and no idea how to reactivate it | 16:39 |
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| chouchoune | tried the softbutton and the hard power button withount any success | 16:40 |
| chouchoune | (also tried to get activity through an USB keyboard, that failed too) | 16:40 |
| vgrade | is the backling still on | 16:41 |
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| chouchoune | backling ? | 16:41 |
| chouchoune | the light on the power button ? | 16:41 |
| chouchoune | If you mean the light on the power button, yes it's on | 16:42 |
| vgrade | no to the lcd panel | 16:42 |
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| chouchoune | no | 16:43 |
| vgrade | can you see anything if you hold the tablet up to a light source | 16:43 |
| chouchoune | no | 16:43 |
| chouchoune | it's completely black | 16:44 |
| vgrade | wheres the kickstart for this image? | 16:44 |
| chouchoune | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.2.90.5.0.20110927.81.CE.2011-09-27.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-testing/ | 16:46 |
| chouchoune | mmmhhh wait | 16:46 |
| chouchoune | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.2.90.5.0.20110927.81.CE.2011-09-27.1/images/mg-handset-ia32-testing/ | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | does it turn off completely? | 16:47 |
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| chouchoune | Stskeeps: the screen or the ExoPC ? | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | exopc | 16:47 |
| chouchoune | no | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:48 |
| chouchoune | power button light is still on | 16:48 |
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| vgrade | chouchoune, flashing now | 16:52 |
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| chouchoune | vgrade: I'm going to try again | 17:22 |
| vgrade | see the comment in #Mer | 17:22 |
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| vgrade | dbus-daemon <defunct> | 17:29 |
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| vgrade | chouchoune, /home/meego/.Xorg.log is interesting | 17:44 |
| vgrade | all looks good unti 63 seconds | 17:45 |
| vgrade | which is when screen blanks I guess | 17:45 |
| vgrade | open acpi successful | 17:46 |
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| vgrade | back to the game | 19:09 |
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| jargon- | if i get kicked off meego-community list do i get notified? it's weird. i got a mail from meego-community-owner saying i can't post because i'm not a member. but i am. :-/ | 19:52 |
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| jargon- | if i'm not welcome on meego-community list,just let me know. don't make me sign up twice. | 19:54 |
| timoph | huh? | 19:54 |
| timoph | sounds weird | 19:55 |
| jargon- | yep | 19:55 |
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| jargon- | i signed up for meego-community 29th september. and have been posting to the list. now it's asking me to sign up again. weird | 19:56 |
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| thiago | jargon-: you're probably posting from the wrong address | 19:59 |
| jargon- | thiago: aaah i see the problem. i signed up with @gmail.com but the actuall address is @googlemail.com | 20:01 |
| timoph | yep. that explains it | 20:01 |
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| jargon- | which is strange because the confirmation mail was received by @googlemail.com and *replied for confirmation* by that same address and then i received the Welcome mail with that same @googlemail.com | 20:02 |
| jargon- | if the list accepts the confirmation email from @googlemail.com how come it doesn't accept list posts from there? | 20:03 |
| thiago | @gmail and @googlemail are the same | 20:03 |
| jargon- | that's what i thought. but i dunno | 20:03 |
| thiago | you must post with the proper From: address | 20:03 |
| jargon- | shouldn't it reject the confirmation mail from @googlemail.com then? | 20:03 |
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| GNUtoo | hi, does someone has the nexus S here? | 21:19 |
| GNUtoo | I wonder how to boot something GNU/Linux on it like meego or something else | 21:20 |
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| GNUtoo | is there an initramfs that permit to format /dev/mmcblk0p3? | 21:20 |
| GNUtoo | because the recovery I have fails with mkfs.ext2 | 21:20 |
| GNUtoo | mkfs.ext2: lseek: Value too large for defined data type | 21:21 |
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| chouchoune | vgrade: how did you connect to the ExoPC to check the .Xorg.log ? | 23:58 |
| chouchoune | I don't have time to connect the wifi before it blanks ;) | 23:58 |
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