| thiago | if it were .rpm, like it is in real MeeGo, I'd be able to help you | 00:00 |
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| berndhs | many users would get very upset if you remove their data just because some package was un-installed | 00:01 |
| snowpong | berndhs: this is passwords, and I'm trying to remove them only on uninstall, not on upgrade for example | 00:03 |
| * snowpong found some script called postrm that might be the one to look at | 00:03 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | Greetings, folks. I'd like to resize a partition on MeeGo 1.0 (I know!) in order to install a second, more modern MeeGo alongside. | 00:06 |
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| dm8tbr | as I said the only way to be sure is nuke it from orbit (wipe the whole device) | 00:06 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I used resize2fs to shrink the existing fs, which seems to have gone smoothly. I did so by booting from SystemRescueCD. Now parted won't resize my partition, as it has unsupported attributes (resize_inode, etc.) | 00:07 |
| dm8tbr | that sounds weird | 00:08 |
| Alison_Chaiken | dm8tbr, since the thing I'm trying to resize comes from a proprietary installer, I guess my only option then is to dd the proprietary stuff to another disk, create the new partition table, then dd it back. | 00:08 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The proprietary installer will not install in a partition, just takes the whole disk, period. | 00:09 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | As far as I can tell, there's no way to resize an ext3 with resize_inode and ext_attr flags set. I guess "ext_attrs" is probably Smack. | 00:10 |
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| CosmoHill | salut lbt | 12:12 |
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| Venemo_webchat | how can I make MeeGo NOT disconnect from my wifi connection when I plug in a USB networking device into my netbook? | 12:37 |
| iekku | is there a bug for that? | 12:39 |
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| iekku | if not, you should file | 12:39 |
| CosmoHill | reminds me of my laptops jibbing out when you connect them to wifi and ethernet | 12:40 |
| Venemo_webchat | iekku: dunno | 12:40 |
| Venemo_webchat | probably some madness of connman, or whatever | 12:40 |
| Venemo_webchat | maybe it does not disconnect, just tries to route all other stuff through the usb network, and it ultimately fails | 12:41 |
| iekku | sounds bad and annoying to me | 12:41 |
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| Venemo_webchat | iekku: yeah, me too | 12:42 |
| CosmoHill | Venemo_webchat: that's what I get on mac and windows | 12:42 |
| Venemo_webchat | CosmoHill: windows and fedora can handle the situation for me | 12:42 |
| Venemo_webchat | I'll be specific: by usb networking device, I mean the N9x0 in SDK mode | 12:42 |
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| CosmoHill | mine routes all the internet traffic through the ethernet even if it's a different network to the wifi | 12:42 |
| CosmoHill | ultimately I end up being firewalled out of the network :( | 12:43 |
| Venemo_webchat | :( | 12:43 |
| CosmoHill | ever heard of a thing called Blue Socket? | 12:43 |
| Venemo_webchat | dunno if this bug is reported for MeeGo yet, I was hoping that a bugzapper can tell me | 12:44 |
| iekku | :D | 12:44 |
| thiago | do you mean a MeeGo netbook connected to an N9x0 in SDK mode? | 12:44 |
| thiago | or do you mean the device itself connected via USB to your PC? | 12:44 |
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| Venemo_webchat | thiago: I mean an N9x0 connected to the MeeGo netbook in SDK mode (with the SDK on the MeeGo netbook) | 12:45 |
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| Venemo_webchat | anyway, I gotta leave now. will be back in a couple of hours. | 12:46 |
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| iekku | Venemo_webchat, seems that there isn't one | 12:49 |
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| anlijiu | Hi | 14:02 |
| anlijiu | how to start meego-ux-ivi when booting meego | 14:03 |
| anlijiu | now it start tablet every time | 14:03 |
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| CosmoHill | did you download the IVI or tablet image? | 14:03 |
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| anlijiu | IVI image | 14:04 |
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| anlijiu | how can i start the meego-ux-ivi ? | 14:10 |
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| CosmoHill | i have no idea | 14:10 |
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| anlijiu | @_@ | 14:11 |
| anlijiu | thank you any way ~ | 14:11 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_IVI_on_ExoPC#MIC_Kickstart_version may help | 14:13 |
| vgrade | anlijiu, depending on your target | 14:14 |
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| anlijiu | vgrade, not what i want , still thank you | 14:16 |
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| Wizard | good afternoon | 14:18 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, give me some more details I'll see if I can help | 14:24 |
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| anlijiu | after intigration meego-ivi , booting system , tablet UI shows up | 14:28 |
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| anlijiu | Is there some doc about startivi or some other script ? I don't know which program start the meego-ux-ivi , perhaps meego-ux-daemon ? | 14:29 |
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| Wizard | hmm, anlijiu, maybe yo know if it's possible to use tablet ui one netbook meego? | 14:30 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, docs are on the wiki, they may not cover your use case though | 14:31 |
| vgrade | anlijiu, I'm assuming you took a kickstart file from a tablet ux pinetrail build and merged that with ivi package groups? | 14:32 |
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| anlijiu | the ks file is from ivi | 14:33 |
| anlijiu | Wizard ... i don't want tablet ui , it just shows up everytime :( | 14:34 |
| Wizard | but I want and I hoped you will know how to do this ;) | 14:35 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, can you pastebin your ks | 14:42 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, and what target are you running on | 14:44 |
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| anlijiu | http://210.82.111.143/Meego/builds/trunk/1.2.0.90.13.20110811.1/images/meego-ivi-ia32-conx/ivi-ia32-conx.ks | 14:46 |
| anlijiu | tunnel creek | 14:47 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, are you getting this ux?, http://wiki.meego.com/File:IVI_1.2_ring_of_apps.jpg | 14:59 |
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| anlijiu | no , I have this package in my system , but I cant exec it , the tablet UI shows up | 15:01 |
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| vgrade | anlijiu, can you pastebin /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch and /var/log/uxlaunch.log that may give us some clues | 15:03 |
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| dm8tbr | 11:13:51< DocScrutinizer> http://maemo.cloud-7.de/hidden/N9_RM-696_schematics_v1.0.pdf | 15:05 |
| dm8tbr | gnarf | 15:05 |
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| anlijiu | ... my friend is installing the meego system now ... | 15:09 |
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| Wizard | anlijiu, and? | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | v/ x | 15:25 |
| Wizard | 3| s | 15:25 |
| Wizard | Stskeeps, perl? :> | 15:25 |
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| MohammadAG | ali1234, remember how you extracted rootfs.jffs2 from the OCF image? | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | whats an OCF? | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | one click flasher | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | you mean harmattan? | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | N950 images | 15:32 |
| Wizard | seems no ;) | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | yes i remember how i did it | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | can you give me some pointers? | 15:32 |
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| MohammadAG | need to screw with the 22-6 image | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | anything in particular that you need? | 15:33 |
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| ali1234 | you have my unlzo script? | 15:34 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 15:34 |
| anlijiu | now he installed the offical ivi image ... ivi-ux starts ... | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/unlzo | 15:35 |
| MohammadAG | ali1234, got a link handy? | 15:35 |
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| MohammadAG | ImportError: No module named lzo | 15:36 |
| MohammadAG | ali1234, any packages I need? | 15:37 |
| ali1234 | liblzo and python-lzo | 15:37 |
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| ali1234 | and this patch https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-commits/2008-April/msg01773.html | 15:38 |
| ali1234 | if you use distro liblzo | 15:38 |
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| MohammadAG | and this extract rootfs.jffs2? | 15:38 |
| MohammadAG | it's not rootfs.lzo | 15:38 |
| ali1234 | from rootfs.lzo yes | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | MohammadAG: they havent used jffs2 since n8x0 | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's a ext4 image | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | inside rootfs.lzo | 15:39 |
| MohammadAG | Stskeeps, it's in the image, don't look at me :p | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: would you be able to make a maker of that format too? | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | make a maker? | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | you mean, make a compressor? | 15:40 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | should be easy enough, yeah | 15:40 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm kind of curious if we can just make a fiasco maker too, so we don't have to deal with all that crap closed source | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:41 |
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| ali1234 | well the lzo images are really simple | 15:43 |
| ali1234 | fiasco i have no idea about | 15:44 |
| ali1234 | do we know what the format is actually called? | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | just saying it is "lzo" is what caused all the confusion to start with | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | the lzo stuff? sparse | 15:45 |
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| ali1234 | after you uncompress it with lzo you get a sparse file | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | but the lzo format is more than just lzo | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | right | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | cos lzo doesn't define an archive format | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | the purpose is to not having to waste 32gb on a 32gb emmc i think | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | sure | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | but it's like zlib -> gzip -> tar | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | we have lzo -> ??? -> sparse | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | where ??? is something made up by nokia | 15:47 |
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| dyrvere | Hey, a question, should I get the Nokia N9? It looks wonderful IMO :) | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | hw's great | 15:49 |
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| Stskeeps | best thing you can do for yourself is to try it out in a shop and decide if you want it or not | 15:49 |
| tids2k | or u can help me to port it :) | 15:50 |
| dyrvere | tids2k: port it, what is "it" to what? LOL | 15:51 |
| tids2k | meego to sgs II | 15:51 |
| MohammadAG | good luck | 15:52 |
| dyrvere | Stskeeps: I can't try the things I wanna know about it in a shop, like the estimate for KDE integration since I run a KDE PC, will there be plasma soon? :) | 15:52 |
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| MohammadAG | it's the best android device I've used | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | dyrvere: if you don't have a sim lock or security lock you can flash meego CE for instance | 15:52 |
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| MohammadAG | ali1234, how do I mount rootfs? | 15:53 |
| ali1234 | mount -o loop -t ext4 rootfs.ext4 tmp/ | 15:53 |
| dyrvere | Stskeeps: then I have to look in the bug channel first, right? | 15:53 |
| MohammadAG | oh, was using ext3 | 15:53 |
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| dyrvere | Because Meego has been nothing but trouble on my netbook :p well as long as one used the GUI instances instead of terminal windows... packagekit would not update etc. xP | 15:54 |
| dyrvere | Meego CE* | 15:54 |
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| tids2k | so once we have a bootable kernel. | 15:56 |
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| tids2k | guys can someone explain to me whats a shim layer ? | 15:57 |
| npm | i hear if you get enough of em all stacked up, they call it linux | 15:58 |
| SpeedEvil | tids2k: like wine | 16:00 |
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| gabrbedd | tids2k: in general, it's an adapter. For example... suppose you want to connect to a remote server over TCP/IP, but make it look on your system like it's a serial port. | 16:00 |
| gabrbedd | That would be a shim. | 16:00 |
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| tids2k | ok | 16:01 |
| tids2k | the reason why i asked was | 16:01 |
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| tids2k | incase to make drivers work with meego we need a shim layer over the other driver libs to make them work | 16:01 |
| Wizard | dyrvere, I had simmilar problems with packagekit on meego 1.2 | 16:01 |
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| Stskeeps | tids2k: n950/n9 already has meego adaptation | 16:02 |
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| tids2k | i see | 16:03 |
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| berndhs | morning | 16:07 |
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| mcfrisk | Hi asking here since obs is quiet, how to disable rpmlint checks in an OBS project? I have some packages from another OBS project where apparently rpmlint was not run and I want to import them as is without changing them. | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | Support: -rpmlint-mini i think | 16:55 |
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| Stskeeps | Support: -rpmlint-mini-x86 as well | 16:55 |
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| mcfrisk | Stskeeps, in project config? | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:56 |
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| mcfrisk | problem is that we've not set it anywhere, and have two projects behaving differently, other one runs rpmlint the other does not. odd | 16:57 |
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| mcfrisk | Stskeeps thanks! That did it, though undestanding why two projects run rpmlint differently would be nice. | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | mysteries | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:01 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hi | 17:11 |
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| Stskeeps | hi Venemo_webchat | 17:12 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hey Stskeeps :) | 17:12 |
| Venemo_webchat | I see there is MeeGo CE for N9(50) now :) | 17:13 |
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| vgrade | DawnFoster, hi | 19:17 |
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| DawnFoster | hey vgrade | 19:23 |
| vgrade | did the Exo DP close? | 19:24 |
| vgrade | DawnFoster Alison_Chaiken was looking for a device to help with http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_IVI_on_ExoPC | 19:26 |
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| DawnFoster | hmm, let me poke around & see if I can do something | 19:38 |
| DawnFoster | Alison_Chaiken: can you email me with a few details of what you want to do? | 19:39 |
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| w00t | DawnFoster: btw, are the community metrics dead? | 19:42 |
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| DawnFoster | I've just been busy & Dave neary is still working on automating it, but isn't quite finished | 19:45 |
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| DawnFoster | hopefully, we can get this back on track for October | 19:45 |
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| w00t | ok | 19:52 |
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| vgrade | DawnFoster, thanks | 20:03 |
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| vgrade | DawnFoster is there a list of speakers , presentations for Prague published. I wanted to see if any of the speakers wanted to work together on demos | 20:05 |
| Wizard | what should I add to /etc/sysconfig/uxlauncher to enable tablet ux? | 20:05 |
| vgrade | I was planning to bring some hardware | 20:05 |
| DawnFoster | vgrade: good question the LF has had some infrastructure issues, so not sure if it's on the website yet | 20:06 |
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| DawnFoster | vgrade: looks like they got it online: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe/schedule | 20:06 |
| DawnFoster | Monday - stella room is the meego mini-summit | 20:06 |
| Alison_Chaiken | DawnFoster and vgrade, thanks, but I hit up Amar already, and also got my photo taken with Bob:https://secure.flickr.com/photos/99725460@N00/6167482801/in/photostream | 20:06 |
| DawnFoster | oops - Wednesday (need more tea) | 20:06 |
| vgrade | DawnFoster, I've been hitting that site for the last week, sorry fr the interruption | 20:07 |
| DawnFoster | vgrade: no worries - I think they just got it posted today | 20:07 |
| DawnFoster | (I'd been waiting for it, too) :) | 20:08 |
| DawnFoster | need to update the events page with details :) | 20:08 |
| DawnFoster | Alison_Chaiken: awesome. glad to hear you're all set | 20:08 |
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| vgrade | DawnFoster , still no word on help with travel from LF | 20:17 |
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| DawnFoster | oh, let me ping someone again on that. I think we're sorting out budgets still for Q4. | 20:18 |
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| vgrade | DawnFoster, ok thanks | 20:18 |
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