IRC log of #meego for Tuesday, 2011-09-20

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zx2c4Stskeeps: was i not just in her elast night02:12
zx2c4talkig bout the new firmware and how i was impatient02:12
zx2c4and her eit is!02:12
zx2c4released todya!02:12
berndhszx2c4: yeah its your fault :)02:14
zx2c4haha02:15
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zx2c4http://blog.zx2c4.com/660 here's the vcard thing i was talking about last night02:21
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zx2c4while firmware updating, lsusb identifies the n900 as an n950: Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0421:01c8 Nokia Mobile Phones N900 (PC-Suite Mode)02:26
SpeedEvilI think you mean the other way round02:29
SpeedEvilIn principle you can submit a patch to the kernel02:29
zx2c4yes, otherway arond02:29
SpeedEvilThe mainline kernel - to say N??02:30
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zx2c4wow02:31
zx2c4such tremdous improvements02:31
zx2c4omg02:31
zx2c4new firmware is amazing02:31
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SpeedEvilAlso - #harmattan is probably more appropriate.02:32
zx2c4kk02:32
SpeedEvilIt's not really quite meego.02:32
beford:C02:33
befordcan i has your n950 :302:33
SpeedEvilYou can come and use it for as long as you're willing to do manual labour.02:36
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Alison_ChaikenMeeGo 4.4.2-7 is MeeGo 1.0?    I'm not sure how to figure it out.   Does 4.4.2-7 indicate gcc version?04:13
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Alison_ChaikenI'm looking at /proc/version, as I don't what other way to figure out MeeGo version.04:14
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Robot101Alison_Chaiken: cat /etc/meego-release ?04:18
Alison_ChaikenAh, thanks Robot101, forgot that one!04:18
Robot101Alison_Chaiken: /proc is just from the kernel, it wouldn't help so much with the distro version04:18
Alison_ChaikenRight, right.    Brain is getting motheaten.04:19
Robot101I know the feeling04:19
Alison_ChaikenAm having trouble using desktop mouse after hacking on tablet with touchscreen all day.04:20
Robot101spent last week at the Intel conference in SF, flew late on Friday writing my talk, went to Software Freedom Day in Boston on Saturday and gave my talk04:21
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Robot101and spent yesterday digging potatos and cooking tater tots :)04:21
Alison_ChaikenCool.    Do you live in MA, or in the potato capital, Maine?04:22
Alison_ChaikenI was at IDF.    Too bad I didn't know about other MeeGo folks there.   I had only a 1-day pass and ended up missing MeeGo session due to meeting with my company's team.04:22
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Robot101Alison_Chaiken: oh! you should've passed by the Collabora stand04:23
Robot101tbh I missed all the sessions, stand duty and meetings all week04:24
Robot101I live in Cambridge, UK - I'm staying with my girlfriend in Somerville this week04:24
Robot101the potato day was a birthday party of sorts :)04:25
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Robot101Alison_Chaiken: you might find my talk from Saturday interesting, twitter.com/ramcq has links04:32
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Alison_Chaikenhttp://t.co/v5U0T4nh Robot101.    Thx.05:00
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Alison_ChaikenMissed the show: gave my own talk at O'Reilly Media on Tuesday night, the only day I had a free pass, and had to leave to drive there right when show opened.05:01
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iekkumorning06:31
berndhs27 mintues06:33
iekku:)06:33
iekkuberndhs, somehow i was sure you are saying something :)06:33
berndhsi'm too tired to come up with something really new :)06:33
iekku:D06:36
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iekkuand still wont go to bed :D06:36
berndhsjust one more thing to test06:37
berndhsc.obs is busted again for harmattan :(06:39
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berndhsoh well06:40
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henperhello10:17
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henpercould someone point me in the right direction? im developing an app for the n950 and i really can't find how to send notifications to the user10:18
henperi dont want push notification, just pure local ones10:18
henperi found the MNotification class but if i'm not wrong the meego touch library is deprecated?10:18
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henperah, okay. thanks :)10:19
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Wizardgood morningh11:34
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GreatgibDo someone know who draw the meegons?14:40
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Stskeepsthere's even automatic makers for it14:41
Greatgiboh, just found the wiki page: http://wiki.meego.com/Meegons14:42
Greatgibgreat, even inkscape tutorials14:42
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niqthi15:39
GreatgibDo someone know if there something that could be done to improve ideapad s10-3t graphical performances with 1.2? glxgears give me a result of ~60fps that looks very low. Is it really the best that the gpu of this could do, or i'm missing a driver/module for it?15:43
Stskeepsglxgears isn't a performance test15:43
GreatgibStskeeps: yes but using the device, i'm under the impression that no hardware acceleration is in use15:44
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StskeepsGreatgib: check glxinfo15:44
Greatgibit is the same for my computer when i don't enable nvidia drivers15:44
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Greatgibglxinfo say: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) IGD GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT x86/MMX/SSE215:45
Stskeepslooks correct15:45
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GreatgibStskeeps: yep, thats why i'm surprised that the performances looks so low :(15:48
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CosmoHill60fps = 60Hz = monitor refresh rate15:52
CosmoHillGreatgib: ah, you're saying tha glxgears says it's doing 60fps but it looks very bad?15:53
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GreatgibCosmoHill: I means that using my netbook i'm under the impression that everything is really slow because of windows operations. And to me, the sensation is similar to when i use my pc without hardware acceleration. because windows compositing and things like that killing performances15:58
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lizardoIs it only me still having problems to login to wiki.meego.com and edit pages?16:03
lizardoit has been many months this way already... :/16:04
Stskeepslog out, log in on meego.com, go to wiki16:04
CosmoHilllizardo: log....what Stskeeps said16:04
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lizardoStskeeps: actually, I had cleaned up all cookies on *.meego.com, I suppose it was not enough to trick it :)16:07
lizardolet me try16:07
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lizardoStskeeps: and.... same problem as before (even after trying: login, logout, go to wiki.meego.com) , still "Log in / create account" on top right on wiki.meego.com. I guess I'm one of those "unluck" for whom this workaround does not work :/16:10
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lizardoI mean, logout -> login > go to wiki.meego.com16:10
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Wizardhi16:30
WizardI'm using meego for few days and I'm wondering if it is possble to have such setup, that myzone would show google calendar events16:31
WizardI've added google calendar to evolution calendar, synchronization works pretty well, but events from this calendar don't show up in MyZone16:31
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Wizardnah, it required a restart ;P16:52
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Venemo_webchatey17:50
Venemo_webchatI installed the Qt SDK to my MeeGo netbook17:50
Venemo_webchatI can't use the desktop target... there is a small red sign left to the "Qt in PATH" in Qt Creator's options... and the screen is too small so I can't see what the error actually is.17:51
Venemo_webchatlibqt-devel is installed, do I need anything else?17:51
Venemo_webchatalso, gcc, make, and gcc-c++ are installed17:51
annmadid you rebuild it?17:52
Venemo_webchatrebuild what?17:52
annmayou have a Rebuild button17:52
annmawhen I have a red cross in a target I Rebuild and then it's OK17:53
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annmanot sure what it rebuilds though17:54
thiagothe red cross is for the debugging helpers17:54
Venemo_webchatthiago: no red cross here17:54
annmaso what is your small red sign Venemo_webchat17:54
Venemo_webchatthe problem is that Qt Creator's options dialog is not usable on this low resolution, so I dunno what the error is.17:54
Venemo_webchatit is a red octaeder with a white exclamation mark17:55
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annmamy Qt in PATH is not found currently, seems that I don't have qmake installed ;)17:59
annmait's a new install from this morning and I am installing the tablet target17:59
Venemo_webchatI do have qmake installed... at least I assumed it was in libqt-devel18:02
annmathe Qt SDK you have is from your distro?18:05
Venemo_webchatnope, from qt.nokia.com18:06
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Wizardgood evening21:45
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snowpongAny good info on how uninstalling an app on meego actually works? I want to remove some usersettings when an app is uninstalled23:41
thiagothere's nothing special23:43
thiagothere's nothing to remove user settings23:43
snowpongthiago: the scenario is - user1 installs app and checks off "Remember me" then uninstalls app, sells phone and user2 buys and installs same app - now we don't want to share the username/passwd :)23:44
snowpongthiago: on symbian there is an app dir that only root and the app itself can write to, and on uninstall this app is wiped23:45
thiagoI get it, but there's no standard way for removing that in MeeGo23:45
thiagothe user should wipe the phone before giving to someone else23:45
thiagothis is a feature we haven't implemented yet23:46
snowpongthiago: so I can't write in /opt/mypackage/config/ or something like that and that gets wiped on uninstall?23:46
snowpongthiago: where are the uninstall rules defined then?23:46
dm8tbrdebian package?23:47
thiagopackages usually don't touch the user area23:47
snowpongdm8tbr: so I can define some rule when generating the .deb?23:48
dm8tbrah, right23:48
dm8tbrthey shouldn't actually23:48
thiagosnowpong: is the cantina tomorrow where we met last time?23:51
snowpongthiago: almost, there is another one further into the building23:52
snowpongdm8tbr: thiago: nevermind what it "should" do, I need a solution here :D23:52
dm8tbrflasher --erase-user-data=secure23:53
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dm8tbrwipes the device, all gone23:53
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snowpongIs it the packagename.tarlist that specified what actually goes where, and which is also used when removing again? I don't know .deb file generation that well23:53
dm8tbrthere are install/uninstall scripts23:54
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* snowpong reads about the .deb format23:59

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