IRC log of #meego for Sunday, 2011-07-24

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berndhswhere does "meegolocale.h" come from ?01:34
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CosmoHillberndhs: try "rpm -qf /path/to.meegolocale.h"01:47
berndhshmm01:48
CosmoHillnate@blue[1001]:~ $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/libc.so             glibc-2.8-1.i68601:48
CosmoHillshould look like that01:48
berndhssays meegolabs-ux-components-liblocale-devel-0.2.19-1.12.i58601:49
CosmoHillshort and snappy I see01:49
berndhss/2.19/2.8.1901:49
berndhswhich package I am providing in c.obs, so perhaps some BuildRequires is missing01:50
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berndhsthis is weird01:55
berndhsi'm trying to build package C, which requires B01:55
berndhspackage B is built and published, no problems01:55
berndhsbuilding C fails saying that A required by B is not found01:56
berndhsdoesn't make sense01:56
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Elleoberndhs: B has a dependency on A that isn't satisfied and which wasn't also a build dependency (so wasn't needed when simply building B, but is needed for actually using it)02:38
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berndhsit gets worse, building A fails because nothing provides A needed by B03:33
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antman8969hmm... getting an rpc time out from the obs... anyone have an idea why?04:11
berndhslooks like its up from here04:12
berndhsthis message looks wrong, trying to build meego-ux-components: "nothing provides meego-ux-components needed by meegolabs-ux-components"04:13
antman8969hmm04:14
antman8969very finicky04:14
berndhscircular even04:14
berndhsthe spec files say that, the .meegolabs-ux..bla needs meego-ux..bla to be there to load meegolabs-ux..04:15
antman8969is that the behavior you've been experiencing before today?04:17
berndhsI just grabbed these from the main repo today, versions that were successfully built04:17
berndhssays built on 2011-07-1904:17
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berndhsso looking at the spec files, the builder is right, this can't work04:23
berndhswhich leaves the question, how did it work on the main OBS04:23
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antman8969not rly sure whats going on04:25
antman8969I can actually build rpms... but when I try to build a deb I get an rpc time out04:25
berndhssounds like an unrelated issue04:26
berndhsi can build lots of rpms, just not these ones :)04:26
antman8969lol04:29
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berndhsactually I can build them here with rpmbuild04:30
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Termanamorning04:30
berndhslots of time, several hours04:31
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MaxwellsDemonauke: you about?06:09
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MaxwellsDemonauke: send me a pm when you get back if you would06:10
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MaxwellsDemonso i am trying to install meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail-1.2.0.90.3.20110607.2.img on my asus eee slate, and it seems to lock up when the bar gets to the end of "copying live image to hard drive" screen06:42
MaxwellsDemonhowever i can run from the usb thumbdrive seemingly ok (except for it thinking my touchscreen is a touchpad, which is most annoying)06:43
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MaxwellsDemonactually, can someone tell me which version i should be trying to run? 1.2.0? 1.2.0.90?06:51
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sofarMaxwellsDemon: sup07:22
sofar< -auke07:22
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sofarMaxwellsDemon: 1.2.0.90 is 1.2.0 with extra patches (the pre-1.2.1 update version)07:22
sofarboth should be fine07:22
MaxwellsDemonsofar: i pulled the newest tablet build of 1.2.0.90, going to try it again to see if it will install on the drive this time07:23
MaxwellsDemonsofar: but i am 90% sure that my touchscreen problems are because it thinks it is a touchpad instead07:24
MaxwellsDemoni mean i dont have a mouse pointer to confirm, but several other live distros all make that mistake07:25
sofarMaxwellsDemon: I'm trying to allocate some budget to purchase a few of them so we can work on support for those units specifically07:25
MaxwellsDemonsofar: they are a nice machine07:25
sofarit'll be a bit before I can actually help you more than just irv07:25
sofarirc*07:25
sofaryeah, specs look nice07:26
MaxwellsDemonsofar: i was going to post to the bug tracker, but was going to check with you on what you guys would want/need, once i get it installed07:26
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MaxwellsDemonor if i dont get it installed then i will get the info from the live boot07:27
sofarfirst of all, bugs for everything that doesn't work07:27
sofarsecond of all, stuff like lspci/lsusb and dmesg dumps (preferably with debugging options on for more density)07:27
MaxwellsDemononce i get it installed, can i make the mouse pointer visible? or is it hard set in the meego environment to not show?07:28
sofaryou can edit /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch07:29
sofarand remove the xopts=-nocursor line07:29
MaxwellsDemoncool07:30
sofartbh we should not even have that option in there07:30
sofarthe UX should set the cursor to hidden itself07:30
sofarMaxwellsDemon: also, you should try and see if a pre-1.3 image works better for you07:31
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sofarunfortunately tablet images don't build atm07:33
sofarbut, you can always use a netbook image and then install that07:33
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sofarand then add the tablet packages on top of that07:33
MaxwellsDemoncool07:35
MaxwellsDemonmight check that out07:35
MaxwellsDemoni was also going to give it a go on my netbook07:35
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sofarthe reason I'm suggesting that is that 1.3pre images have a newer kernel07:36
sofarso you might have better driver support07:36
sofar(or not)07:36
sofarMaxwellsDemon: I see some posts saying that the touchscreen driver works with evtouch07:40
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MaxwellsDemoninteresting07:41
MaxwellsDemoni wonder what driver it is attempting to use?07:41
sofaranyway, it's weekend for me, so, no work ;)07:42
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MaxwellsDemonhave fun07:42
MaxwellsDemon:)07:42
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MaxwellsDemonok got it installed and i have the mouse pointer visible08:14
MaxwellsDemonit is indeed treating it like a touchpad08:15
MaxwellsDemonannoying08:15
MaxwellsDemonbut i can fix that if eztouch will work08:15
MaxwellsDemonmy problem now is that the user interface seems to be expecting me to have a much higher resolution than i have08:15
MaxwellsDemonmy tablet has a 1280x800 display08:15
antman8969could anyone tell me what the api url for the osc config file should look like?08:16
MaxwellsDemoni suppose i should make sure it is actually launching X/weyland/whichever it is using at 1280x80008:16
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sofarhttps://api.meego.com/08:33
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antman8969thats what I thought.... and if I wanted to see my packages it would be osc ls?08:37
antman8969thers a problem somewhere then08:37
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antman8969ooh just got it working.... api.pub.meego.com08:39
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antman8969lbt lurking around here atm?09:34
MSMNo lurking09:34
MSMYou must contribute09:34
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SatanR1Monring all :)12:29
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SatanR1anyone about?12:32
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vgrademorning12:44
vgrademain OBS down again12:45
dm8tbrok, I break down... who wants to have #meego-dashboard here on IRC?12:50
dm8tbrI'd park a nagios bot there so we can get real-time info on downtime12:50
dm8tbrand if someone helps me I could export the nagios status into a dashboard too12:51
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lbtdm8tbr: hah!  I put "nagios monitoring" onto our teams todo list yesterday :)13:44
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dm8tbrlbt: too late, I'm done ;)14:22
lbtcool - can you publish the plugin details?14:23
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lcuklbt, was the obs downtime planned?14:34
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spenaplbt or X-Fade: I'd like to set up a OBS repository. My username is spenap, and I'm developing butaca (open source application). (Don't know if this downtime lcuk mentions is currently preventing new accounts to be added)14:38
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lbtspenap: done14:42
spenapthanks14:42
lbthowever yes, the main OBS downtime will impact the community OBS... you should be fine if you target the released 1.214:42
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lbtit will be slow though14:42
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CosmoHilllbt: what is up with the cobs? (so I can parrot the information to others)14:43
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lbtCosmoHill: nothing :) ... but the main OBS is down. That means the schedulers timeout on every connection attempt. And a *lot* of people link to the main OBS14:45
lbtbad design in the OBS but not something that's come to light until recently14:46
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dm8tbrlbt: yeah, still figuring out a few details, also doesn't help that I don't know if there are load balancers or reverse proxies involved14:52
CosmoHillF1 race is starting toon14:58
* SpeedEvil imagines a toon F1 race.14:59
CosmoHill(2 mins)14:59
lcukCosmoHill, which GP today?15:01
CosmoHillNuringberg15:01
lcukit would be great to goto proper n950 event with all the cameras15:01
lcukand let everyone spend the day doing stuff15:01
lcukand build a whole cool data grid from everything15:01
* lcuk has wanted this kind of app for ages15:02
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dm8tbrlbt: cobs is evidently up but doesn't respond to ping, is that intended?15:12
lbtyes15:12
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lbtit could15:12
dm8tbrsecurity through obscurity, making life harder, every day15:14
lbtclose down everything. open what's needed.15:15
lbtNagios runs internally and there's no need for external ping15:15
dm8tbrwell the need for externally accessible infrastructure state is there15:18
dm8tbrespecially with core OBS being flakey as it is15:18
dm8tbrelse we wouldn't get tons of people asking15:18
dm8tbris this down, is that down15:18
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lbtand if it answers on ping and not on 443 then ....15:19
lbtservice is up \o/15:19
lbtoh wait, no, its' not15:19
dm8tbrI don't see the nagios state exported anywhere, so I intend to run my own that is not kept under a shroud of pretended security by obscurity15:19
lbtnot in the mood15:19
lbtl8r15:19
dm8tbrk15:19
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SatanR1hello everyone! anyone with a working U100 setup?15:41
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dm8tbrwhat's a U100?15:45
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SatanR1dm8tbr, it's the MSI U100 Wind Netbook15:52
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dm8tbraha, no don't have that15:53
dm8tbrif it's all intel chips inside it might just-work(tm)15:53
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mohammedalieng_dm8tr, are u sure ?15:54
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berndhsit will have a heat problem due to having too many stickers on it15:56
CosmoHillMeeGo is a live image so you might as well give it a go, you've not nothing to lose15:58
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SatanR1I've got it running on my netbook, but the trackpad doens't work.16:06
SatanR1It's a confirmed bug, although it worked right up till the first reboot! :(16:06
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SatanR1This bug here : https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=254716:07
MeeGoBotBug 2547 cri, Medium, ---, wesley.werner, ASSI, The trackpad of the MSI Wind U100 doesn't work16:07
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lcuklbt, Teleca, I have heard it for most recent week or so16:35
lcukwhat/where is it?16:35
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lbtlcuk: They're a larg-ish consultancy/delivery organisation. International - Russia/India/Germany/Asia/...  I'm working with the (small) German group.17:12
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lcuklbt, meego related installation?17:29
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lbtlcuk: yes18:25
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spenapElleo, hi: I read your post http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=26986 where you mention that you've got cdbs into OBS, and that by cloning it, packages depending on cdbs should build19:16
spenapcloning is "branching"?19:16
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Elleospenap: yeah, I believe so19:31
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Elleospenap: iirc you should be able to go to the packages list in your home, select "Create a new package based on an existing one" and enter the various details19:32
Elleootherwise there's a "Branch package" link in the drop down list next to the package but from playing with it I think that might put things in a separate project19:33
Elleoso I don't know if it'd still be accessible to other things you're trying to build that way19:33
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Elleothe details you'd need are "Name of original project: elleo:home, Name of package in original project: cdbs"19:34
Elleothen you should be able to leave the target name blank and it'll just call it cdbs19:35
Elleoerr, that should be home:elleo not elleo:home19:35
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lbtElleo: so why not think about putting cdbs into Surrounds:Testing ?20:07
Elleolbt: how do you I do that?20:07
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Elleos/you//20:07
infobotElleo meant: lbt: how do  I do that?20:07
lbtmake a commitment that you'll maintain it :)20:08
lbtthen ask me and x-fade to make a decision20:08
Elleowell I guess I will, there's not really much to that package it's just some build helpers that a number of debian packages use20:08
lbtI think a bug makes sense20:08
Elleolbt: I take it this Surrounds stuff applied to Harmattan then?20:09
lbtyou may also suggest what criteria should apply - ie what should we (as a community) be looking for when someone proposes a package20:09
Elleoas that's all I've built/tested the package for (and it doesn't make much sense for RPM based stuff)20:10
lbtI think we need a Harmattan-specific Surrounds20:10
lbtpolicy would be the same though20:10
lbtie if some random spod proposes they "maintain" say python3 ... what lets us decide yes/no?20:11
Elleonot sure what's reasonable policy-wise, most of the big distros seem to do stuff via a mentor/sponsor type arrangement mostly from what I've seen20:13
Elleowhere someone trusted checks new people's packages and "sponsors" them for inclusion, then after a number of good packages they're given more direct control over them20:13
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lbtmakes sense ... but we need to build up some size20:14
Elleoyeah, that only works if you've got a good trusted/experienced:new person ratio20:15
lbtMaybe look for people who support the concept and have some packages in Extras20:15
spenapElleo, thanks for the info, I'll do it now :)20:15
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lbtI'd be happy for a group of devs to propose a small group to work with X-Fade and I to do that20:15
s-andyHello, I have troubles launching runtimes - it gives Segmentation fault: invalid fake_pbuffer20:17
* Stskeeps relaxes in front of laptop20:17
lbthey Stskeeps .. thought you were in the mountains?20:17
Stskeepslbt: came back now20:17
lbtgood trip ?20:18
Stskeepswas okay20:18
Stskeepsplenty of time to think20:18
lbtlots to think about atm20:18
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* lbt been watching the growth of people building apps on the c.obs20:19
* Stskeeps is playing with some ideas surrounding RDF20:19
Stskeepshopefully i can begin to prototype some stuff soon, really looking forward to having some glue between my devices20:22
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Elleolbt: okay, I've filed: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21778 hope that's roughly what you were after20:28
MeeGoBotBug 21778 enh, Undecided, ---, maemo, NEW, Place cdbs package from home:elleo into Surrounds:Testing for Harmattan20:28
s-andyCan anyone help with segfault when running runtime? I guess it's a known issue?20:31
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spenapElleo, after branching this cdbs, it now complains with unresolvable «nothing provides python-scour»20:38
Elleospenap: ah yeah sorry, forgot to mention you'll need to branch that too20:38
Elleoit's in my repository20:38
spenap:)20:38
spenapno problem, will do that20:38
lbtElleo: thanks20:41
Elleono worries :)20:42
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lcuki just got back from another meego meetup in manchester21:21
lcukthe beer in the Knott bar gets better each time21:21
lcukand their bacon sandwiches are awesome21:22
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berndhsi'm hungry21:23
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vgradelcuk, \o21:26
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mtdlbt: is this the right place to ask about MeeGo Community OBS accounts?22:00
CosmoHillmtd: yes, just tell him your username22:01
dm8tbrand what you intend to do with that account22:02
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mtdCosmoHill: thanks22:05
mtdlbt: my meego.com username is mdengler and I'm in the N950 community device program, and I'd like to request a c.obs account please.22:05
CosmoHillmtd: this is for open source, correct?22:06
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lbtmtd: done22:13
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lcukn900hey what is the way to lookup default system font on a device?22:38
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lcukn900since obviously this ideapad does not have nokia sans or even pure22:38
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lcukn900o_O droid sans is sortof readable22:47
berndhsmonospace22:50
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berndhsdon't you have your own handwriting font ?22:51
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lcukberndhs, yeah I do23:07
lcukbut I installed libliqbase on a system without liqbook initially (n950) and had to deal with fonts again23:08
lcukn900 was ok because of nokia sans, i think the n950 has it too but haven't looked in depth, my meego netbook install hasn't got fonts23:08
lcuketc23:08
berndhsforce everything into your handwriting font :)23:09
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lcukberndhs, i do23:09
lcukonce liqbook is installed the whole UX is in handwriting23:09
lcukonce liqtutor is installed it can be in yours too23:10
lcukbut that is a nother matter23:10
lcukreading Larry Niven books in my own handwriting is a bit odd23:10
lcukso either we get Larry to release his own sketchfont23:10
lcuk(which will come later)23:10
Venemo:D23:10
lcukor I find a generic system font :P23:10
berndhshe'll probably do it for a small fee23:11
lcuksure23:11
lcukwould improve reading immensely23:11
lcukand a whole industry of personal books23:11
lcukberndhs, once the sketchfont trainer works better23:12
lcukand normal folks get to putting their fonts in23:12
lcukso other people can too23:12
berndhssure it would be a good way to persnalize their phones23:12
lcukit is23:12
Venemoand once it'll support accented letters...23:12
lcukmy liqbase stuff is totally handwritten23:12
lcukVenemo, it is only my poor code which restricts it to ascii at present23:13
lcukget the code for liqtutor and submit patches :)23:13
lcukbut anyway, I am going to read Larry Niven book in my handwriting bbl23:13
berndhsdoes the code have to 32-bit-int-pointers in it ?23:13
Venemo:)23:14
lcukberndhs, the fileformat is textual identifier actually23:14
lcukso that can store "smile" as a single glyph23:14
lcukand find proper use for it later23:14
berndhssounds like the right way to do it23:14
berndhsi looked at some of your code maybe a year ago, it had that issue with ints and pointers23:15
lcukberndhs,23:15
lcukit propbably still does23:15
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lcukbut it works for me and I try where possible to tweak and polish what is there23:16
berndhsyeah if you operate only on 32 bit, you might not notice23:16
lcukit is just my host app for my sketches23:16
lcukindeed, I have no 64b machines23:16
lcukkotzcarny has offered some patches in the past23:16
berndhsi think it was only a few things, but those were in a lot of places23:17
lcukhttp://liqbase.net/liq.20110621_200232.codebox4.scr.png is example handwriting btw23:17
lcuknot really, from memory, there is a tag variable which is an int3223:17
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lcukand used as a pointer in random places23:17
lcuka great many minor tweaks were ironed out by w00t actually23:18
lcukhe offered an amazing patch23:18
berndhsthat's the one i remember, and the proliferation of it23:18
lcukwhich changed from using the gcc c compiler23:18
lcukto g++ c++ compiler23:18
lcukso the more strict code actually helped immensely23:18
berndhsoh sure, it helps23:19
lcukI have been tinkering this weekend with datasync23:19
lcuki have the calendar pushing once again to webserver23:20
berndhsyou can still do sloppy-seeming things in c++, but you have to do it on purpose :)23:20
lcukand I have webserver actually rendering calendar serverside23:20
lcukyes23:20
lcuki try where possible to tidy things up23:20
lcukmoving to the ideapad as principle development has helped actually23:20
Damion3laterz23:21
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lcukbecause it gave me a chance to cleanuip the dev folder23:21
lcukanyway, going reading, nn \o23:21
berndhslater23:21
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berndhswhose brilliant idea was it to put colons (:) in all the OBS path names ?23:32
berndhswhat a royal pain23:33
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lbtberndhs: I hate it23:47
lbtthere is an option somewhere to convert them to _ on checkout23:47
berndhsif there was something to be gained by it, ok, but what would that be ?23:47
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lbtand actually some gnu tools (automake iirc) won't build if the path has a :23:48
lbtberndhs: age old opensuse thing.... novell netware shares?23:48
berndhsDOS disk letters probably23:48
lbt:)23:49
Venemocould someone please answer me this? http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=24808&postcount=2023:55
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