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| lbt | evening all# | 00:52 |
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| lbt | o/ | 01:08 |
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| * CosmoHill found out it would be about £12,000 for a PHD | 01:29 | |
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| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: I'd stop at a Bachelor degree & get a job with a company that pays tuition for advanced degrees | 01:31 |
| DawnFoster | that's how I got my Master's | 01:31 |
| CosmoHill | It's actually cheaper to get a PHD instead of a masters | 01:32 |
| DawnFoster | ok, then let the company pay for your PHD :) | 01:32 |
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| CosmoHill | I do need to sort myself out and get a job | 01:33 |
| CosmoHill | or at least start lookin | 01:33 |
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| DawnFoster | I think a year or 2 working a real job in your field gives you a better prospective on education | 01:34 |
| DawnFoster | and you might decide to get your PHD in a related but slightly different field | 01:34 |
| DawnFoster | after working full-time for a bit | 01:34 |
| CosmoHill | since I've finished uni and not got a job I've kinda zoned out | 01:34 |
| DawnFoster | and you make decent money while you decide | 01:35 |
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| CosmoHill | any tips for boosting my confidence? I'm fine doing stuff for myself but if I do it for someone else / money I don't feel like I'm good enough | 01:35 |
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| DawnFoster | I look around at a lot of people working in our field and most of them only know some of what they should | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | that might actually help | 01:38 |
| DawnFoster | I've also hired people who had only some of what I thought I wanted because they were smart & I could teach them the rest | 01:38 |
| CosmoHill | I seem to be able to do a better job than the people paid to do it some of the times | 01:38 |
| DawnFoster | none of us know what we're doing all the time | 01:38 |
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| DawnFoster | good enough is usually defined as being able to figure it out well enough to get the job done :) | 01:38 |
| DawnFoster | and the big difference between uni and real work is that you can copy off of the guy next to you and it's not cheating, it's reuse :) | 01:39 |
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| DawnFoster | In most jobs, if you need a little help with part of a project there is probably someone who can help you figure out the bit you don't know | 01:40 |
| CosmoHill | yeah, you can also look up stuff that you know but can't recall where as in an exam you write down a load of stuff you think you know | 01:40 |
| DawnFoster | exactly | 01:40 |
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| DawnFoster | some of the people I know who are most successful are just better at finding information quickly and knowing who to ask for help | 01:41 |
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| CosmoHill | thanks for talking to me, it's helped :) | 01:47 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm a little surprised that I've managed to go through without finding a specific field that I'd like | 01:53 |
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| CosmoHill | if any thing I'm interested in more feilds and I've done things I've never thought of before like parallel computing | 01:54 |
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| DawnFoster | happy to help. | 01:55 |
| DawnFoster | I've changed careers a bunch of times & have figured out which things I like better than others | 01:56 |
| DawnFoster | but it just takes some time actually doing them to figure it out | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | as long as it doesn't involve matlab | 01:59 |
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| dm8tbr | mood groaning | 10:02 |
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| mcfrisk | Anyone else noticed that http links to gitorious repos don't work? | 10:31 |
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| mcfrisk | ...damn these proxies | 10:31 |
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| mcfrisk | luckily ssh socks proxy, socat and GIT_PROXY_COMMAND help | 10:51 |
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| zx2c4 | hey anyone in here? | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | just got a n950. playing around with it for the first time | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | ssh'd in | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | any suggestions | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | for what i should investigate? | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | reading dpkg --list righ tnow | 11:39 |
| Iso | Did you try rm -rf / yet ? | 11:39 |
| Iso | Just kidding. | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | great one lso! | 11:39 |
| petteri | write some opensource apps already | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | i tried that but then i remembered i have to add | 11:39 |
| zx2c4 | --no-preserve-root | 11:40 |
| Iso | :D | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | im worrrrrrrrrkin on it | 11:40 |
| petteri | :) | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | i wish there was more striaght forward instructions for building the SDK from scratch | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | i dont like these binary blobs | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | and i'm on gentoo so my inclination is to write an ebuild to get it all sorted | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | put lets see here | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | im diggin round on the device | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | its so cool | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | its a fully fledged linux distro | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | it even has... | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | wget and | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | imagemagick | 11:40 |
| zx2c4 | :-D | 11:41 |
| Iso | :D | 11:41 |
| mcfrisk | but no rsync... | 11:41 |
| zx2c4 | alas | 11:41 |
| zx2c4 | i should build that | 11:41 |
| zx2c4 | does package management typically take place on the device? | 11:41 |
| zx2c4 | with regards to remote repos? | 11:41 |
| zx2c4 | apt-get install rsync | 11:41 |
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| zx2c4 | hmm i wonder how i get root | 11:42 |
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| zx2c4 | devel-su whats this do | 11:42 |
| zx2c4 | if only i knew the password | 11:42 |
| zx2c4 | probably a correct way to be doin this | 11:42 |
| mcfrisk | don't know about additional repos, sorry | 11:42 |
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| zx2c4 | mcfrisk: do you have a meego device on it? any suggestions for where i should start poking around? cool stuff i should do? | 11:43 |
| zx2c4 | i picked it up this evening, went to a cafe and sat there workin through all the on-device functionality | 11:43 |
| zx2c4 | and now im at home with my laptop | 11:43 |
| zx2c4 | trying to learn this end | 11:43 |
| mcfrisk | no, sorry don't have any meego devices | 11:43 |
| zx2c4 | aaa okay | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | Maemo? | 11:44 |
| mcfrisk | not even those, anymore | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | seems to me this is basically a maemo device with a meego shell | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | shucks how come? | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | did your n900 break? | 11:44 |
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| mcfrisk | nope, had to give it back to $COMPANY | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | aaaa, shucks... the good ol' $COMPANY | 11:44 |
| zx2c4 | well if annnnnnnnnnnnyone in here has any suggestions for where my curosity would be best applied | 11:45 |
| zx2c4 | im all ears | 11:45 |
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| zx2c4 | find / |less here i come i guess | 11:47 |
| zx2c4 | yea its basically maemo | 11:50 |
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| zx2c4 | devel-su | 11:55 |
| zx2c4 | password rootme | 11:55 |
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| mcfrisk | so root access works, but with what capabilities :) | 11:56 |
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| zx2c4 | aaa Qt is a mess | 12:19 |
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| richmooore2 | hi all, i have an exo pc with the meego 1.2 image on it. is there a newer image i should upgrade to yet? | 12:56 |
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| dm8tbr | richmooore2: if you mean that image from february, then FFS yes! | 13:00 |
| richmooore2 | dm8tbr: i don't know which image it is - i was given the tablet on tue | 13:02 |
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| dm8tbr | richmooore2: ah, so it has the OOTB image on it? | 13:02 |
| richmooore2 | OOTB? | 13:02 |
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| richmooore2 | oh out of the box | 13:02 |
| richmooore2 | yes | 13:02 |
| dm8tbr | that's most likely the february image with the swype kbd | 13:03 |
| dm8tbr | http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/ExoPC#How_to_install_latest_MeeGo_Snapshot - try this | 13:03 |
| richmooore2 | yes, the kbd is swype | 13:03 |
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| richmooore2 | dm8tbr: thanks | 13:04 |
| ritz | hi, I had tried installing meego 1.2.90 image from repo.meego.com, the de-install script deleted the kernel image, and failed to install the kernel. now, I am unable to detect n900 using lsusb command, and consequently unable to flash | 13:04 |
| richmooore2 | er, the image is missing from the directory that links to | 13:04 |
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| dm8tbr | richmooore2: ah, because it prolly points to 1.3 which fails to build images right now | 13:04 |
| dm8tbr | 1.2.80 that's the 1.3 branch | 13:05 |
| * lcuk grabs a trout from frals and whaps Noobmonk3y_ with it | 13:05 | |
| * Noobmonk3y_ is hungry after the mention of trout | 13:05 | |
| dm8tbr | richmooore2: http://download.meego.com/snapshots/1.2.0.90.7.20110708.88/images/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail/ - wild guess | 13:05 |
| richmooore2 | dm8tbr: thanks | 13:06 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, how are you doing? did you signup to n950 program? | 13:06 |
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| richmooore2 | lcuk: someone was telling me at the london meego meeting they thought you might be based in manchester, is that right? | 13:07 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | i'm very good thankyou! - back on buntu with the SDK - awaiting my N950! :) :) (Kathy prompted me!) - and was in batch 4 ! | 13:07 |
| lcuk | richmooore2, affirmative | 13:07 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | lcuk, is based globally ;) - he has a trout in every timezone | 13:07 |
| richmooore2 | lcuk: me too | 13:07 |
| lcuk | cool richmooore2 | 13:07 |
| lcuk | on the forum.meego.com site there is a thread for manchester meetups | 13:08 |
| lcuk | so add a note there and when we organise next one you will know about it | 13:08 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | lcuk, at the rate sunderland fc are taking manu players, are sunderland peeps invited to that meetup ;) hehehe | 13:08 |
| richmooore2 | lcuk: will do | 13:08 |
| lcuk | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2859 | 13:08 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | ooo lcuk talking of which at some point latrer in the summer, do you fancy a trip down dorset way, to meet up with Kathy? i think she wants to see a n950 :) | 13:09 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, the n950 has python available | 13:09 |
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| Noobmonk3y_ | and i'll head sideways ;) | 13:09 |
| lcuk | Healthcheck should make for a nice app | 13:09 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | hehe lcuk gonna try qml :) | 13:09 |
| ritz | is there a way to work around this ? the kernel modules are for 2.6.37-11.1-adaptation-n900 , but the kernel being used is 2.6.37-24.2 | 13:09 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | :) :) | 13:09 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, sounds like a good idea | 13:09 |
| lcuk | there are more meego devices though | 13:10 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | it does seem with every incarnation of the app, i have to learn something new, python, then C++ , then linux pretty much, so why not QML :P or at least use QT quick now | 13:10 |
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| lcuk | I like the tablet form factor - my ideapad is great | 13:10 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | ahhh true.... | 13:10 |
| lcuk | in Barcelona when me and Kathy met for the first time | 13:10 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | i wonder if i could get meego on my hp 6730b? | 13:10 |
| lcuk | we were discussing getting some apps onto big form factors | 13:10 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | cool! | 13:10 |
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| lcuk | when I got my ideapad with meego on it I found out it all was good :D | 13:11 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | would be great to make a healthcheck for all types... gonna need some serious planning! | 13:11 |
| lcuk | she thinks the theraputic effects are awesome | 13:11 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | lol! | 13:11 |
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| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, well qt principle is to code once, deploy anywhere | 13:11 |
| lcuk | so if you write it carefully that will be practical | 13:12 |
| lcuk | the qt-mobility library helps immensely | 13:12 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | true... that does mean i need to ensure it looks good on all though, and not just work | 13:12 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | is qt mobility fully working now, as every time i tried something on the n900 it failed, especially with audio etc | 13:13 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | Well, fully working on meego? | 13:13 |
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| zx2c4 | anyone know where i might find the source tree of the n950 kernel? | 13:13 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | zx2c4, https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source ? | 13:16 |
| zx2c4 | im looking for n950-specific drivers... | 13:17 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, yes, working well and looking good are important indeed | 13:17 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | oh sry | 13:17 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | no idea missed that part | 13:17 |
| zx2c4 | are these them in /patches? | 13:17 |
| zx2c4 | hmm | 13:17 |
| zx2c4 | these are drivers | 13:17 |
| zx2c4 | but | 13:17 |
| zx2c4 | hm | 13:17 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | hehehe | 13:18 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | happy hunting :P | 13:18 |
| zx2c4 | aye no lspci on the n950 | 13:18 |
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| Noobmonk3y_ | lcuk, whats the best tool in ubuntu to create an png icon? (Or SVG, so i can use the icon creator for meego) | 13:24 |
| richmooore2 | inkscape is what nuno uses | 13:25 |
| lcuk | idk Noobmonk3y_ i rarely make icons | 13:25 |
| lcuk | have you tried gimp? | 13:25 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | meh will do :) - ty | 13:25 |
| richmooore2 | (for svg) | 13:25 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | have both :) - thanks :) | 13:25 |
| jonwil | does http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/k/kernel/ not contain the kernel for the N950? | 13:26 |
| jonwil | kernel source that is | 13:26 |
| zx2c4 | woan | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | jonwil: how on earth | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | did you find | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | this link | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | omg | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | dude | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | wow | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | how did you do this | 13:27 |
| zx2c4 | jonwil: you are a genius | 13:28 |
| lcuk | zx2c4, he clicked a few links ;) | 13:28 |
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| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, WHAT ICON ARE YOU MAKING? | 13:28 |
| jonwil | I already knew where the harmattan pool was | 13:28 |
| lcuk | -caps | 13:28 |
| jonwil | and I assumed the kernel source would be in it | 13:28 |
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| zx2c4 | jonwil: how did you find the pool? ive been looking all over for it | 13:28 |
| jonwil | I | 13:28 |
| zx2c4 | i grepped for http in that python script off this subdomain | 13:29 |
| jonwil | I forget how I found it | 13:29 |
| zx2c4 | well, well done | 13:29 |
| zx2c4 | I am really an ass then -- I wrote a letter to sourcecode.request@nokia.com asking them ahaha | 13:29 |
| lcuk | it only counts as a letter if you used your handwriting. | 13:29 |
| zx2c4 | * rolls eyes * | 13:30 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | urgh who was it who created the meego icon creater, jaffa? | 13:35 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | lcuk, making healthcheck one :) | 13:35 |
| lcuk | ooh | 13:35 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, javispedro I believe | 13:36 |
| Noobmonk3y_ | ahhhh - now to find it, i remember all these things, but bookmarking 100 times a day gets messy :( | 13:36 |
| lcuk | Noobmonk3y_, | 13:38 |
| lcuk | Harmattan style icon/color generator ::: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3714 | 13:38 |
| lcuk | thank me later :P | 13:38 |
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| Noobmonk3y_ | thankeeee | 13:39 |
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| ritz | hi, I had tried installing meego 1.2.90 image from repo.meego.com, the de-install script deleted the kernel image, and failed to install the kernel. now, I am unable to detect n900 using lsusb command, and consequently unable to flash . is there a way to work around this ? the kernel modules are for 2.6.37-11.1-adaptation-n900 , but the kernel being used is 2.6.37-24.2 | 13:45 |
| ritz | service centre is it ? | 13:45 |
| vgrade | richmooore2, try the wetab build on your ExoPc, its the most complete built at the moment | 13:53 |
| vgrade | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/blog/2011/07/07/creating-multi-boot-exopc-tablet | 13:54 |
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| vdv | hi all | 14:29 |
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| vdv | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/archive/1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable/ | 14:29 |
| vdv | what are the meaning of the *adaptation-n900 file here? | 14:29 |
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| vdv | and the meaning of *.ks file | 14:30 |
| vdv | b | 14:30 |
| dm8tbr | the .ks is the kickstart file used to generate the image | 14:31 |
| dm8tbr | using mic2 | 14:31 |
| vdv | and adaptation-n900? | 14:33 |
| vdv | is it executable binary? | 14:33 |
| vdv | i'm flashing to n900 | 14:34 |
| vdv | i.e. i will be use meego on n900 | 14:34 |
| dm8tbr | for n900 just follow the wiki guide | 14:36 |
| vgrade | tip: zypper in udiskie, on latest tablet builds to get automounting of usb drives so tracker can find music and videos | 14:38 |
| vdv | i'm entering mmcboot in U-boot cli, but it says unknown command | 14:39 |
| vdv | why that can happen? | 14:39 |
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| dm8tbr | vdv: just let it boot. mmc is default... | 14:41 |
| vdv | and how can i boot maemo now? | 14:41 |
| dm8tbr | did you read the wiki page ffs? | 14:41 |
| dm8tbr | just remove the musd or 'run noloboot' | 14:42 |
| vdv | ah, thanks a lot | 14:43 |
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| CosmoHill | ffs, some websites are horrifically designed / coded | 15:46 |
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| alterego | CosmoHill: I'd go so far as to say, most ;) | 15:52 |
| CosmoHill | first time I've had to force close firefox in a while | 15:52 |
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| CosmoHill | one of them is my football team's | 15:57 |
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| * CosmoHill watches good will hunting and compiles linux, yay for ssh | 16:47 | |
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| alterego | :) | 16:51 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, I just put that on iplayer | 16:53 |
| CosmoHill | sky+ | 16:54 |
| alterego | I was going to do that too .. | 16:55 |
| * alterego does that | 16:56 | |
| alterego | "Mat Damon" | 16:56 |
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| alterego | Oh that makes sense. | 16:59 |
| alterego | Kevin Smith co produced it | 17:00 |
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| CosmoHill | where are you two in the film? | 17:27 |
| berndhs | they are movie stars too ? | 17:31 |
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| MSvB | I don't get it, who's in the film and why? | 17:35 |
| CosmoHill | three of us are watching the same film | 17:37 |
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| MSvB | Stop watching the film, it is sunny outside. | 17:55 |
| MSvB | Go in the beergarden instead and sit in the shade. | 17:56 |
| CaCO3 | its raining here... | 17:56 |
| MSvB | Probably saying that just to excuse watching a film. | 17:57 |
| MSvB | Okay enough bad jokes. But I'm going to put my bad mouth to the test... | 17:57 |
| MSvB | ...and actually do it - remove myself from the network for a fresh walk and maybe a cool one. | 17:57 |
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| MSvB | Have a nice film watching time everyone. See you. | 17:58 |
| CaCO3 | ;) | 17:58 |
| pebcak | beergarden? :D | 17:59 |
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| CosmoHill | a garden made out of beer? are you mad? | 18:08 |
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| CosmoHill | that reminds me, it's the beer festival next week | 18:09 |
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| djszapi|work | X-Fade ping | 18:51 |
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| djszapi|work | Jaffa: do you know whether I can build native debian packages for Harmattan target ? | 19:00 |
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| achipa | a bit of components trollin': http://achipa.blogspot.com/2011/07/qt-components-story-of-ugly-qwidgetling.html | 19:31 |
| * achipa off to dinner and ignores the mayhem | 19:32 | |
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| berndhs | i don't know, calling QML a "technology" seems overstating it | 19:38 |
| CosmoHill | Questionable Markup Language? | 19:39 |
| berndhs | nothing wrong with QML, its just that people use "technology" for stuff that doesnt deserve the term these days | 19:39 |
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| berndhs | that's very hard | 19:49 |
| CosmoHill | I've been updating one since highschool but now I'm starting new | 19:49 |
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| ali1234 | so basically what you're saying is QML isn't even *supposed* to be cross platform and I should just suck it up and write a whole interface from scratch for every single device? | 19:50 |
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| maligor | you can certainly write universal qml apps | 19:53 |
| maligor | but considering the meego status bar and such are embedded into the window components, it'll always be 'fullscreen' | 19:54 |
| berndhs | I wouldn't call an app thats always fullscreen "universal" | 19:54 |
| maligor | it wouldn't be on other platforms | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | but what you can't do is write universal QML apps that look native on more than one platform | 19:54 |
| maligor | just in meego | 19:55 |
| maligor | ali1234, pretty much, atleast not atm | 19:55 |
| maligor | maybe Qt Quick 2.0 | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | if it isn't dead and buried before that happens :) | 19:55 |
| maligor | it won't | 19:56 |
| maligor | there's enough community interest in qt | 19:56 |
| ali1234 | there is community interest in Qt | 19:56 |
| ali1234 | not so much in QML | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | unless you count the 10 or so people writing apps for meego with it | 19:57 |
| maligor | well, true | 19:57 |
| maligor | 10 or so?-) | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | the problem with QML as I see it is it forces you to spend extra coding time wrapping all your core functions into QObjects so that you can then spend extra coding time writing 3 versions of the UI | 19:57 |
| berndhs | oh i'm sure there's more than 10 | 19:57 |
| ali1234 | which seems rather odd for something with "quick" in the name | 19:58 |
| maligor | ali1234, that's not really a problem | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | it's a problem for me | 19:58 |
| maligor | I only see that as a problem if you have to adapt weird C code into it | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | it's a problem if you are doing anything other than presenting some data you scraped from the web as a scrolly list | 19:59 |
| maligor | heh | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | QML is great if you are building an RSS reader | 19:59 |
| maligor | I've written adapters to qml | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | which is why 50% of all real QML apps so far are RSS readers, or some varition of thus | 19:59 |
| maligor | it's easy | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | try making a paint program or a word processor in QML | 20:00 |
| maligor | I did make a paint program in qml ;P | 20:00 |
| berndhs | ebook reader isn't too hard either :) | 20:00 |
| Bostik | I wouldn't - QML is supposed to be a UI language for most parts as far as I know | 20:00 |
| maligor | the paint area is a c++ component tho | 20:00 |
| Bostik | the real logic under the hood still needs to be C++ | 20:01 |
| maligor | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=CFPainter&project=home%3Avaltonen | 20:01 |
| maligor | mind you, the package doesn't work | 20:01 |
| * CosmoHill 's phone has stopped working | 20:01 | |
| maligor | there's a error in the build script | 20:01 |
| maligor | and it uses a c++ base to use the qml, which some people wail that it's not qml | 20:02 |
| maligor | but I did it that way so I wouldn't have to mess with the plugin paths for the component ;P | 20:02 |
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| maligor | or the qml files, they're all packaged into the executable | 20:03 |
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| berndhs | some people want to load qml from arbitrary urls I think | 20:07 |
| javispedro | ali1234: as for the word processor thingie, Khertan tried and he's still complaining loudly about the process in his twitter feed =) | 20:07 |
| berndhs | is spectacle documented anywhere? I'm trying to figure out how to make a .spec from a .yaml, but its like alchemy | 20:12 |
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| lcuk | achipa, n-tier fully object orientated apps would have multiple views onto the model tree anyway | 20:13 |
| alterego | Currently he's using a widget proxy I believe to dump a qwidget into a qml scene, which isn't ideal ;) | 20:13 |
| lcuk | nice article :) | 20:14 |
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| javispedro | hum | 20:24 |
| * javispedro ponders if I could make a qml component that renders a x11 window/pixmap | 20:24 | |
| maligor | javispedro, sure you can | 20:25 |
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| javispedro | but how would it interact with all of the scene transformations? | 20:25 |
| maligor | as long as it's implemented in c++ ;P | 20:25 |
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| maligor | I don't think that's actually a problem | 20:26 |
| javispedro | because I've not said that I would like the pixmap not be downloaded from the server but be rendered directly ;) | 20:26 |
| maligor | the problem I imagine would be in the the implementation details ;P | 20:26 |
| javispedro | and that's the impossible part =) | 20:26 |
| maligor | what pixmap? | 20:27 |
| maligor | and where from? | 20:27 |
| javispedro | assume it comes from another application | 20:27 |
| maligor | you can draw a pixmap easily enough | 20:27 |
| maligor | infact the paintapp I wrote does that | 20:27 |
| maligor | it has a simple c++ component that you pass a QPixmap to | 20:28 |
| javispedro | but does it download it, do some transformations on it, and then render it again? or does it just call the server for that? | 20:29 |
| javispedro | cause it might be a large one | 20:29 |
| maligor | oh.. you mean that | 20:29 |
| maligor | I'm not sure | 20:29 |
| maligor | http://pastebin.com/QzVHeWhN | 20:30 |
| maligor | I guess it depends on what the QPainter does | 20:30 |
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| javispedro | seems that the only way to check is to test it :) | 20:37 |
| javispedro | either way, that looks nice. | 20:37 |
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| * CosmoHill can get FMA on blu-ray :) | 20:57 | |
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| berndhs | yay my installer lets me boot into mutiuser :) | 21:23 |
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| CosmoHill | if I bought a blu-ray drive for my desktop I'd need to spend more money getting software to play it | 21:29 |
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| berndhs | i lost my blu-ray DVD, didn't make any difference with my crappy TV anyway | 21:31 |
| * CosmoHill wonders why Argos is showing them a selection of DVD players when he search for "blu-ray" | 21:31 | |
| Khertan | javispedro, the word processing part is now working ...but i didn't use native qml thing, i wrap a qtextedit in a qgraphicproxywidget | 21:33 |
| CaCO3 | anybode here experience with OBS? | 21:33 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS | 21:34 |
| CaCO3 | I am trying to build my first Harmattan package, but have some problems | 21:34 |
| lcuk | CaCO3, which aspect | 21:34 |
| CaCO3 | I read a lot of those pages | 21:34 |
| Khertan | javispedro, and the resulting widget is used to extend qml with a qdeclarativeitem | 21:34 |
| CaCO3 | I uploaded a tar.gz and wrote a spec file | 21:34 |
| CaCO3 | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&pkgname=shedskin&project=home%3ACaCO3&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 | 21:34 |
| CaCO3 | build fails with this error: "nothing provides g++, nothing provides libpcre3-dev, nothing provides libgc-dev, nothing provides python-dev" | 21:35 |
| CaCO3 | I would expect those are baislig packages which shoudl be available (at least g++) | 21:35 |
| lcuk | Khertan, :D | 21:35 |
| lcuk | CaCO3, your package should depend on build tools too | 21:35 |
| lcuk | in debian you need the build-depends | 21:36 |
| * CosmoHill decides that blu-ray can go to hell | 21:36 | |
| CaCO3 | thats not what I enter in "BuildRequires:" ? | 21:37 |
| berndhs | CaCO3: also you have to spell the package names right for the target | 21:37 |
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| CaCO3 | which package name? | 21:37 |
| CaCO3 | the one of my package or the build depencies? | 21:37 |
| berndhs | things like g++, you have to know that that package is called | 21:37 |
| berndhs | the dependencise | 21:37 |
| CaCO3 | so I can not adapt it like the Build-Depends on Freematle) | 21:38 |
| CaCO3 | ? | 21:38 |
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| berndhs | i dont know what the package names on Harmattan are | 21:39 |
| CaCO3 | fremantle :) | 21:39 |
| CaCO3 | where would I find them? somwhere in a repo list? | 21:39 |
| berndhs | yes :) | 21:40 |
| berndhs | i have no idea | 21:40 |
| CaCO3 | I also am confused about the requirement of a spec file; the doc sais I have to have one, but RzR950 build a lot of packages with a dsc file instead a spec file | 21:44 |
| berndhs | the meego targets need a .spec, I think harmattan needs .dsc | 21:45 |
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| CaCO3 | graet :( so thats not even compatible? :( | 21:46 |
| berndhs | that depends on your definition of "compatible" | 21:46 |
| CaCO3 | IMHO it shouldnt be that hard to bring Maemo packages into the Harmattan builder! | 21:46 |
| Aard | well, it's two different, incompatible packaging systems... | 21:47 |
| berndhs | well, Maemo->Harmattan, talk to Nokia | 21:47 |
| CaCO3 | is there any doc how a dsc file would have do be written? | 21:48 |
| berndhs | there probably is, but I don't know where, never tried it | 21:48 |
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| CaCO3 | well, if nokia wants us to create apps for their store, they also will have to provide an easy way to build the packages | 21:50 |
| CaCO3 | else they will miss a lot of potential | 21:50 |
| berndhs | yeah, tell them that | 21:50 |
| CaCO3 | ;) | 21:51 |
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| javispedro | CaCO3: check forum.meego.com, people are working on it. | 21:53 |
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