| vgrade | julienf, did you get my mail? | 00:00 |
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| julienf | hey vgrade | 00:00 |
| julienf | vgrade: yes. got it. Traveling right now, limited access to email | 00:01 |
| vgrade | ok, good | 00:01 |
| vgrade | I saw from your tweets you'd had a busy weekend | 00:01 |
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| vgrade | a new ARM board anounced today from India, http://www.design-reuse.com/news/26734/iwave-i-mx51-based-isbc-arm-cortex-a8-board.html?sf1708346=1 | 00:04 |
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| wazd | thebootroo: hey | 00:11 |
| thebootroo | wazd: hey ! | 00:11 |
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| wazd | thebootroo: looks like you're going somewhere with UX :) | 00:12 |
| thebootroo | thx | 00:12 |
| wazd | thebootroo: And I need some help with it :P | 00:12 |
| thebootroo | oh oh oh ok | 00:13 |
| wazd | thebootroo: I'm currently working on UI/UX concept for meego ce | 00:13 |
| thebootroo | wazd: hum, what kind of concept | 00:13 |
| wazd | Can you join meego-arm so I can show you? :P | 00:14 |
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| thebootroo | i can try, but i'm on gprs so it can bug | 00:14 |
| wazd | aaaah, well, I'm not in a hurry :) | 00:14 |
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| thebootroo | i'm in ;-) | 00:15 |
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| rafael2k | people, where can I find a good documentation about the N900 boot process? | 00:33 |
| rafael2k | I'm somewhat confused about uboot, multiboot, flashing the kernel to memory and so on | 00:33 |
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| rafael2k | if I understand correctly, there is a kernel area in the mmc that can hold the maemo kernel only, and a uboot that will load a kernel from mmc or sd, right? | 00:35 |
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| rafael2k | maemo kernel _or_ uboot | 00:35 |
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| rafael2k | YEEES! I'm in meego for the first time! | 00:38 |
| rafael2k | ; ) | 00:38 |
| lainwir3d | grate | 00:38 |
| lainwir3d | gratz* | 00:38 |
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| rafael2k | nice background picture | 00:39 |
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| rafael2k | Very interesting system! Will applications developed for CE work in harmattan? | 00:46 |
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| thiago | no | 00:49 |
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| rafael2k | what are the differences between the harmattan SDK and the Meego CE SDK? | 00:51 |
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| blauzahl | if you write a new meego qml app, does it have to use meego-qml-launcher? | 00:52 |
| andre__ | rafael2k, Harmattan probably includes some closed parts that are Nokia-only components, while MeeGo CE should be completely free (if I understand it correctly) | 00:52 |
| andyross | blauzahl: Certainly doesn't have to, but that's the only QML wrapper application distributed. | 00:52 |
| blauzahl | andyross: thanks! | 00:53 |
| rafael2k | andre__: ok, but is there any common base that could be used to write portable apps? | 00:54 |
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| rafael2k | Stskeeps|holiday: how to shutdown meego? | 00:55 |
| rafael2k | ooops | 00:55 |
| rafael2k | how to shutdown meego? power button seems to lock the screen. | 00:55 |
| thiago | oh, you meant Community Edition? | 00:57 |
| thiago | yes, sure, applications should be portable | 00:57 |
| rafael2k | yes, CE == Community Edition | 00:57 |
| rafael2k | ow | 00:57 |
| rafael2k | you frightened me | 00:57 |
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| CosmoHill | MeeGo CE on Nokia would confuse a lot of people | 00:58 |
| rafael2k | I'm running CE on my N900 | 00:59 |
| rafael2k | Meego CE for instance | 00:59 |
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| rafael2k | rbelem: belem? here is juba. | 01:00 |
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| DrGrov | Evening | 02:05 |
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| pepelyayev | LOLOOL | 03:56 |
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| pepelyayev | hahah | 03:56 |
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| pepelyayev | llooooooool | 04:15 |
| pepelyayev | why are people here | 04:16 |
| pepelyayev | :) | 04:16 |
| Ken-Young | We're napping! | 04:17 |
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| sofar | pepelyayev: good question. many answers, but, most importantly, people are here because MeeGo is alive and growing. | 04:37 |
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| SpeedEvil | However - to answer the meta-question, people lurk on IRC, as it means they can read what happened in their absence when tehy get back tot eh computer. | 04:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Also they can get messsages from others. | 04:39 |
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| Bruns | hey im trying to download meego and use it on vmware | 05:55 |
| Bruns | would the netbook image work? | 05:55 |
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| sofar | Bruns: if vmware has 3d/GL passthrough, yes | 06:02 |
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| Bruns | thanks sofar | 06:04 |
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| gabrbedd | anybody know of a meego automount daemon? (Desired behavior... plug in device and it's immediately mounted to something like /media/disk) | 06:53 |
| gabrbedd | IIRC, mutter/Netbook has something like it... but I need something console-ish. | 06:53 |
| timoph | morning | 06:53 |
| gabrbedd | timoph: Hi timo! | 06:53 |
| timoph | gabrbedd: o/ | 06:53 |
| timoph | working late? | 06:53 |
| gabrbedd | as usual. | 06:54 |
| timoph | :) | 06:54 |
| gabrbedd | up early? | 06:54 |
| timoph | 7am here | 06:54 |
| timoph | yep | 06:54 |
| timoph | already at work | 06:54 |
| * timoph is about to do a dirty hack | 06:54 | |
| * gabrbedd looks the other way | 06:55 | |
| timoph | :) | 06:55 |
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| timoph | I'm adding a few lines to the test automation configuration package that patches root's environment so that root can access X and session bus | 06:55 |
| gabrbedd | nice :-) | 06:57 |
| timoph | yep. helps to run a lot more tests with automation | 06:58 |
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| * timoph tried to convince devs to use su - meego -c "test-case" but failed | 06:59 | |
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| sofar | gabrbedd: udisks --mount /dev/s{dgr}etc.. | 07:03 |
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| sofar | timoph: with systemd, all that will be history, and your ssh sessions will share session bus/consolekit etc. | 07:04 |
| timoph | sofar: cool | 07:04 |
| sofar | export DISPLAY=:0 ; runstuff | 07:04 |
| sofar | should actually work in 1.2 already too | 07:04 |
| timoph | haven't looked into systemd yet | 07:04 |
| timoph | looks like I should | 07:04 |
| sofar | consolekit is the magic, and that should be fine in 1.2 | 07:05 |
| sofar | just ssh as normal user instead of root, and export DISPLAY | 07:05 |
| timoph | that's one of the problems since the tools don't know do the tests need to executed as root or as normal user | 07:06 |
| sofar | can't you make 2 test suites? | 07:07 |
| sofar | one for root.... | 07:07 |
| sofar | seems such a logical solution :) | 07:08 |
| gabrbedd | sofar: thanks! Do you know if udisks can detect that someting was plugged in... and "do the right thing" ? | 07:08 |
| timoph | sofar: yep but that needs some changes to the test-definition and tools anyway | 07:08 |
| sofar | gabrbedd: automounting requires a daemon. there's a few implementations around, but none are in meego as a standalone part I think | 07:08 |
| gabrbedd | ok, thanks. | 07:09 |
| timoph | iirc I filed a FEA about adding support for things like that | 07:09 |
| timoph | before 2/11 | 07:10 |
| timoph | ha! how come I haven't seen the connection between 9/11 and 2/11 before | 07:11 |
| timoph | 911 emergency number in US, 112 emergency number in Finland :D | 07:11 |
| timoph | anyway.. we need to patch thing that way now. Let's see if we change the way it works later | 07:13 |
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| * sofar announces devel:xfce has all the latest components! | 07:39 | |
| timoph | \o/ | 07:39 |
| timoph | is there some image that's using xfce by default? | 07:40 |
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| sofar | not publically, no | 07:40 |
| sofar | some people are building personal and testing images | 07:41 |
| sofar | not that hard to do, acutally | 07:41 |
| timoph | ok | 07:41 |
| timoph | should be an interesting experiment to do | 07:41 |
| * dm8tbr is happy to host whatever images as long as they come with a kickstart file and don't contain problematic closed source | 07:41 | |
| sofar | timoph: easy enough: take a netbook .ks file, take out netbook groups, add @xfce and @xfce-applications groups, and you're almost done. Just need to set xfce4-session the startup process in uxlaunch sysconfig file | 07:42 |
| timoph | sofar: thanks | 07:43 |
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| hell | does nokia will send a fail e-mail to losers? ;-) | 09:01 |
| sofar | Only if they can't properly use English grammar. | 09:04 |
| LunohoD | grammar nazi detected | 09:04 |
| LunohoD | ;-P | 09:04 |
| sofar | rough day, I apologize ;) | 09:04 |
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| hell | :-) | 09:08 |
| hell | sofar: i'll do my best to improve english | 09:08 |
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| SpeedEvil | I was excited to get an email from @nokia.com yesterday. | 09:09 |
| SpeedEvil | Then I realised it was just spam. | 09:09 |
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| jotik_work | Hello! How do I add an "X" close button to a QDialog in Meego? | 10:00 |
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| omcfadde | X-Fade: hi, anderco told me that you can grant me access to the public OBS API for the osc tool? | 10:58 |
| omcfadde | X-Fade: https://api.pub.meego.com | 10:58 |
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| khertan_ | Stskeeps|holiday, did you see that my meegotouch-qt-style solution was resolved as invalid ... as package will be removed ... they are really trying to annoy as most as they can developpers ! | 11:44 |
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| alterego | lcuk: Your N8 arrived? | 11:45 |
| alterego | lcuk: hope mine does soon :P | 11:45 |
| RST38h | alterego,lcuk: folks, you are getting a wrong phone =) | 11:46 |
| alterego | RST38h: I want to target all Qt devices :P | 11:46 |
| alterego | RST38h: and the N8 will make a good media player / recorder :P | 11:47 |
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| khertan_ | alterego, you can't target all Qt Device ... too much api framentation at the moment | 11:50 |
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| khertan_ | s/framentation/fragmentation | 11:50 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, who said I was getting a single phone? I have use case which involves testing on various existing devices | 11:52 |
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| SpeedEvil | 250? | 11:52 |
| lcuk | alterego, yes by the way | 11:53 |
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| alterego | khertan_: rubbish, I can target all of 'em :P | 11:53 |
| alterego | It might not be pretty, but it should get prettier .. | 11:53 |
| lcuk | helsinki meetup reminder came through | 11:54 |
| alterego | lcuk: I'm kinda paranoid that I may have already missed the delivery :/ | 11:54 |
| alterego | Like, yesterday or something | 11:54 |
| lcuk | you would have a piece of paper | 11:54 |
| khertan_ | alterego, n810 have 4.5, palm pre have 4.6, n900 have 4.7 with broken QML, n9 have QML with broken Qt | 11:54 |
| alterego | But I guess ours were hopefully sent at the same time. | 11:54 |
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| alterego | otoh, you asked for a C5 as well, where as I did not. | 11:55 |
| alterego | So yours may have taken slightly longer to process :( | 11:55 |
| alterego | What I need is a tracking number ;) | 11:56 |
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| lcuk | the n8 has facial tracking | 11:59 |
| wazd | hi all | 11:59 |
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| alterego | lcuk: sweet, what colour is yours? | 11:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | lcuk: n9 too | 12:01 |
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| alterego | lcuk: also, did you get the C5 or the C5-03? | 12:02 |
| lcuk | 03 | 12:02 |
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| alterego | Cool | 12:02 |
| alterego | Why did you want that one? | 12:03 |
| SpeedEvil | lcuk: What're you planning on playing with it for? | 12:03 |
| lcuk | alterego resistive | 12:03 |
| alterego | Ooooooooo ... | 12:03 |
| alterego | (makes sense) :) | 12:03 |
| lcuk | SpeedEvil, media sync is one part of it, my apps are the other | 12:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah | 12:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | Can you really do a sane 'suite' on symbian? | 12:05 |
| lcuk | you can do anything if you put your mind to it. | 12:06 |
| alterego | When it comes to what I want to do with devices, and I imagine the same with lcuk, all we need is the right hardware, wifi, bluetooth, gps, touch screens, etc. | 12:07 |
| alterego | Then with Qt, which is on pretty much all these devices, we can atay mostly cross-platform. | 12:07 |
| alterego | ~stay | 12:08 |
| infobot | woof | 12:08 |
| alterego | Heh | 12:08 |
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| alterego | I've got a QML enigma right now, it's annoying me .. | 12:09 |
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| niala | 'morning meego | 12:30 |
| slaine | morning niala | 12:31 |
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| amjad_ | groaninggg | 12:52 |
| alterego | Heh | 12:53 |
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| slaine | nice reply from kate on that roadmap thread | 13:00 |
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| smoku | is there a repo of meego 1.0 packages available anywhere? | 13:20 |
| smoku | I need to build a softfp image | 13:20 |
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| andre__ | smoinen, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/netbook/repos/source/ etc? | 13:22 |
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| lcuk | alterego, the capacitive screen on the n9(50) - we know the output is high resolution, but is the capacitive layer technology than existing screens? | 13:22 |
| lcuk | oh damn | 13:22 |
| lcuk | -alterego, it is a general question | 13:22 |
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| alterego | :) | 13:23 |
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| alterego | I don't know what kind of resolution the capacitive screen is capable of doing, I guess we'll have to wait and see :/ | 13:23 |
| lcuk | not really | 13:24 |
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| alterego | Maybe if you came up with a test app, we could get someone that has one to test it? ;) | 13:24 |
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| * lcuk tries to suss out how to get qt app running | 13:24 | |
| alterego | lcuk: who delivered your package this morning? (courier) | 13:25 |
| lcuk | i think his name was jim | 13:25 |
| alterego | Hah | 13:25 |
| alterego | Company :P | 13:26 |
| lcuk | no, he was on his own | 13:26 |
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| alterego | Oh, interesting | 13:26 |
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| lcuk | he might have had someone in the van with him | 13:26 |
| alterego | Did you package not have "DHL" or anything printed on it? | 13:26 |
| lcuk | but i don't know which courier it was - i got the parcel delivered to my bed | 13:26 |
| lcuk | so courier was "tracy" | 13:27 |
| lcuk | can qt creator publish/deploy to multiple devices at the same time? | 13:27 |
| lcuk | ie make code | 13:28 |
| lcuk | press run | 13:28 |
| lcuk | and have it show up on my n900-ce, n8, c5, n950 | 13:28 |
| ali1234 | lol no | 13:28 |
| alterego | Heh, no :) | 13:29 |
| lcuk | ali1234, why "lol" | 13:29 |
| lcuk | it is serious thing I have pondered how to do since I started | 13:29 |
| ali1234 | because the deployment methods aren't even a tiny bit the same | 13:30 |
| lcuk | i first asked this question with my pair of n810s | 13:30 |
| ali1234 | and apptrk is a pile of poo | 13:30 |
| lcuk | but, but, but this is all qt | 13:30 |
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| ali1234 | and madde isn't much better but at least it... actually works | 13:30 |
| lcuk | really really need to find a sane deployment mechanism for speed | 13:31 |
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| ali1234 | there is none | 13:31 |
| lcuk | source distribution could work | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | building a package and sending it to the device for installation is never going to be fast | 13:31 |
| lcuk | if only qt compilation was fast | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | the compilation is not slow | 13:31 |
| lcuk | meh ali1234 - c liq* stuff compiles in seconds on n810 | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | it is building the rpm/sis and transfering it to the device, so that the device can unpack it that is slow | 13:31 |
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| ali1234 | Qt apps build in seconds too | 13:32 |
| lcuk | ali1234, compilation *is* slow | 13:32 |
| lcuk | self compiling basically a hello world in qt takes over a minute | 13:32 |
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| ali1234 | well, not for me | 13:32 |
| lcuk | c++ templates and headers and qt stuff | 13:32 |
| lcuk | what are you compiling on device? | 13:32 |
| alterego | I'd like to see a Symbian OBS target ;) | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | me too | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | lcuk: your question seems to be missing a punctuation | 13:33 |
| bkalinga | is this right way of including INCLUDEPATH +=/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-core-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0-fs/usr/include/QtServiceFramework in .pro file | 13:33 |
| alterego | bkalinga: no | 13:33 |
| lcuk | ali1234, what are you compiling on device? | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | i'm not compiling anything "on device" because i didn't even know there is qt creator for n900 | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | you asked about deployment | 13:34 |
| alterego | bkalinga: you need: CONFIG += mobility | 13:34 |
| ali1234 | if you are compiling on the device there is no need for deployment | 13:34 |
| alterego | bkalinga: and: MOBILITY += serviceframework | 13:34 |
| bkalinga | alterego: i have CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework but qtcreator not finding the required Headers | 13:34 |
| alterego | bkalinga: is your target set to the correct "MeeGo blah" target? | 13:35 |
| lcuk | ali1234, you said that qt apps build in seconds? do you use the n900 or similar device itself to do any kind of qt compilation task? | 13:35 |
| bkalinga | so i have done this manually but dont like this | 13:35 |
| ali1234 | lcuk: what does that have to do with it? | 13:35 |
| bkalinga | this is very unportable code.. but not able to figure out how can i do this | 13:35 |
| lcuk | ali1234, if on device compilation were fast and efficient, it is practical to just send source over and "make; make install" ;) | 13:36 |
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| ali1234 | lcuk: compiling on the device is not innefficient. it is slow because the device is slow | 13:36 |
| lcuk | sigh | 13:36 |
| w00t | it's fast enough, I don't have any meego development environment on my laptop | 13:36 |
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| bkalinga | alterego: in chrooted env everything works but in using meego-sdk-qtcreator on my host machine it does not work | 13:36 |
| ali1234 | deploying from a PC is not slow because compiling is slow. it is slow because building a rpm/sis is an innefficient way of deploying | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | i don't understand why you have a problem seeing this | 13:37 |
| alterego | ali1234: and .deb it really pissed me off when they added that step | 13:37 |
| alterego | I can understand why, it's just annoying. | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | alterego: yes, deb was no better in this respect | 13:37 |
| w00t | afair it used to have an option to copy binaries directly, did they remove that? | 13:37 |
| w00t | (at least for maemo) | 13:37 |
| lcuk | ali1234, I have a problem because historically for me the biggest difference in performance comes from compilation | 13:37 |
| alterego | w00t: they removed it, then I heard they added it back again | 13:38 |
| alterego | w00t: so it might be an option now | 13:38 |
| * alterego checks | 13:38 | |
| lcuk | because of having to compile multiple versions of the same thing - obs's job | 13:38 |
| * w00t personally doesn't use creator for deployment | 13:38 | |
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| ali1234 | lcuk: compiling is about 5% of the time required to deploy an app from qt creator to symbian or maemo | 13:38 |
| lcuk | do you think qt creator is developed inside qt creator | 13:38 |
| ali1234 | from when you click "run" | 13:38 |
| w00t | lcuk: it is | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | i know for a fact that it is | 13:39 |
| lcuk | ali1234, i press up arrow in a console window | 13:39 |
| w00t | a large proportion of Qt is developed in creator too | 13:39 |
| lcuk | ali1234, so I am asking the question of why we cannot use on device compilation and installation | 13:39 |
| lcuk | and completely remove the packaging bit | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | you can | 13:40 |
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| bkalinga | but qt-creator is not intelligent enough to pick correct include path when you use CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework | 13:40 |
| lcuk | well compilation speed in the minute range for helloworld is a bit of a limiation | 13:40 |
| lcuk | if there are c compilers (like tinycc) which can compile 10x faster than gcc | 13:40 |
| alterego | Doesn't look like it does direct binary copying, though you could mock one up using a custom "run" profile. | 13:41 |
| w00t | lcuk: what are you compiling on? | 13:41 |
| alterego | I did that .. | 13:41 |
| lcuk | if similar could be done for c++ | 13:41 |
| ali1234 | necause the device is slow | 13:41 |
| lcuk | w00t, anything | 13:41 |
| lcuk | ali1234, tush | 13:41 |
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| lcuk | i have been doing on device compilation for years | 13:41 |
| lcuk | this is a c++/qt issue | 13:41 |
| ali1234 | why don't you try to optimize the part that is actually slow? | 13:41 |
| w00t | lcuk: what does hello world take a minute on, and where is your hello world? | 13:41 |
| lcuk | w00t, MohammadAG made a quick simple qt test app and timed it, hold on | 13:41 |
| ali1234 | by, instead of building a full rpm, just make it transmit only the binary | 13:42 |
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| lcuk | ali1234, logic inside the qt creator needs to change | 13:42 |
| lcuk | because if you change one of the assets in your package | 13:42 |
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| lcuk | which for qml apps happens often | 13:42 |
| lcuk | then you cannot just retransmit the binary | 13:43 |
| lcuk | because the pictures and bits that are not compiled | 13:43 |
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| lcuk | will be stale | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | you can if your qml assets are accessed through qrc:// | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | because then they are all compiled in | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | or doesn't that work for qml? | 13:43 |
| lcuk | the point being that is not the case | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | it should be | 13:43 |
| lcuk | patches welcome! | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | i hate apps that splatter random text files all over the place | 13:43 |
| w00t | it does work, ali1234 | 13:43 |
| MohammadAG | my open mediaplayer takes 3 mins to compile on device | 13:44 |
| w00t | MohammadAG: what device, and what media player? | 13:44 |
| ali1234 | vs 30 seconds to compile, and then 2 minutes to package and deploy from qt creator? | 13:44 |
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| bkalinga | can someone please tell me why QtCretor is picking QtCore from -I/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-tablet-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1-fs/usr/include/qt4/QtCore and QtMobility from -I/usr/include/QtMobility | 13:45 |
| bkalinga | same also happening for -I/usr/include/QtServiceFramework | 13:45 |
| MohammadAG | w00t, N900, http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer | 13:46 |
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| MohammadAG | make -j2 helps a lot, that way the compiler can go on while the other make process waits for IO | 13:46 |
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| w00t | forward declarations would probably help you a lot | 13:47 |
| w00t | as would avoiding things like #include <QtGui> (freqpickselector.h) | 13:47 |
| MohammadAG | w00t, afaik that was Venemo, I don't do that | 13:48 |
| MohammadAG | in fact I always avoid it | 13:48 |
| w00t | yuh, just noting | 13:48 |
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| ali1234 | bkalinga: all i can tell you is it's because that's what is in the library paths for your toolchain settings | 13:57 |
| bkalinga | ok ali1234: due to that i need to have INCLUDEPATH +=/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-core-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0-fs/usr/include/QtServiceFramework in .pro file | 13:58 |
| bkalinga | which is very ugly and unportable | 13:58 |
| ali1234 | due to what? | 13:58 |
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| ali1234 | you can set these things at the target/toolchain level | 13:59 |
| ali1234 | instead of in the project | 13:59 |
| bkalinga | don't have any idea where to set | 14:00 |
| bkalinga | i am using MeeGo1.2 sdk along with Madde | 14:00 |
| bkalinga | and using meego-sdk-qtcreator | 14:00 |
| bkalinga | seems customized for MeeGo/Madde | 14:01 |
| bkalinga | ali1234: any pointer where to look at for this change? | 14:01 |
| ali1234 | in preferences | 14:01 |
| alterego | UPS van just arrived | 14:02 |
| alterego | A UPS VAN JUST ARRIVED! | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-snapshot/creator-tool-chains.html | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | bkalinga: have a look at that ^ | 14:02 |
| bkalinga | donot see preferences in my qt-creator | 14:02 |
| ali1234 | i don't have qt creator installed on this machine, installing it now | 14:03 |
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| bkalinga | ok | 14:03 |
| alterego | Not for me :( | 14:03 |
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| X-Fade | alterego: dhl. | 14:04 |
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| * alterego sighs | 14:05 | |
| * alterego continues waiting | 14:05 | |
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| bkalinga | i have Qt Creator 2.1.0 Based on Qt 4.7.2 (32 bit) Built on May 14 2011 at 03:21:42 but don't find Tools > Options->Tool Chains. Tool Chains is not there | 14:08 |
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| alterego | I wish she'd emailed me a tracking number, think I'm gonna risk it and have a shower in a moment. | 14:09 |
| lcuk | byou haven't showered since hearing about parcel? | 14:09 |
| w00t | lol | 14:09 |
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| alterego | I've not showered in 2 weeks! | 14:10 |
| alterego | I'm just kidding | 14:10 |
| alterego | I would have done it already, but you said you'd got your delivery this morning so I thought I'd wait :P | 14:10 |
| alterego | But now I smell like a hobo and I can't stand it, especially after last night sweating my ass off in my sleep. | 14:10 |
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| psycho_oreos | are you getting N950 through other means? or is this for exopc? lol | 14:18 |
| alterego | I have an exopc, this is for an N8 and a nice Qt bok | 14:19 |
| alterego | ~book | 14:19 |
| infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342. Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/, or ~buybook | 14:19 |
| psycho_oreos | ah | 14:19 |
| alterego | Not that book though | 14:19 |
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| ali1234 | bkalinga: i have tools->options | 14:56 |
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| ali1234 | i installed vanilla qt creator though... 2.1.0 / 4.7.2 | 14:57 |
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| bkalinga | ali1234: i have also i have tools->options | 15:16 |
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| bkalinga | but tool chain is not there as u earlier mentioned | 15:16 |
| ali1234 | ok, well then you want to go to "qt4" and "qt versions" | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | and make sure it is all correct | 15:17 |
| bkalinga | yeah everything is corect | 15:17 |
| bkalinga | i can create a simple app and run it | 15:17 |
| bkalinga | problem comes when i try to use CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework | 15:17 |
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| bkalinga | the Make file QtCreator generates refer to /usr/include/Qserviceframework | 15:18 |
| bkalinga | which is not there | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | not sure then, it could be related to qmake | 15:18 |
| bkalinga | do u have MeeGo1.2 SDK installed | 15:19 |
| bkalinga | ali1234: Nokia MeeGo Harmatan uses dpkg as the package manager, any idea where would be the file that contains the repo list | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | no idea sorry | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | i don't use the sdks | 15:20 |
| bkalinga | similar to /etc/zypp/repos.d/1.2-oss.repo | 15:21 |
| bkalinga | ok | 15:21 |
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| bkalinga | got it /etc/apt/sources.list | 15:23 |
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| nusse | is it possible to install the last community release on a smaller sdcard? | 15:37 |
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| lcuk | nusse, smaller than what? | 15:43 |
| lcuk | the image expands to 3.6gb or similar | 15:44 |
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| nusse | lcuk: the image contains a partitiontable so i guess i would need to adapt it | 15:57 |
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| BlueAidan | I'm getting a lot of segfaults in tracker-extract | 16:37 |
| BlueAidan | its generating gigabytes of core files in /tmp | 16:37 |
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| lcuk | BlueAidan what are you extracting? | 16:39 |
| BlueAidan | I have no clue | 16:39 |
| BlueAidan | I don't even want meego doing that | 16:39 |
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| alterego | I think I might have to redo it all: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/columbus-qml-20110628-001.png | 16:48 |
| alterego | It's looking very maemo5 :D | 16:48 |
| special | alterego: what font is that? | 16:48 |
| berndhs | what would make it look more Harmattan ? | 16:49 |
| alterego | Dunno, the default one QML uses in ubuntu | 16:49 |
| alterego | berndhs: I'll let you know if/when I get a harmattan device :P | 16:49 |
| special | ah, the 11.04 font | 16:49 |
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| alterego | It's not about making it look more Harmattan anyway, I want it to look unique but uniform across all platforms, symbian, maemo5, harmattan and MeeGo | 16:49 |
| berndhs | yeah someone should post some typical harmattan-looking apps | 16:49 |
| alterego | special: no, the 10.10 font :P | 16:49 |
| special | did they add that in 10.10? either way | 16:50 |
| RST38h | alterego: use a nixie-tube based font! | 16:50 |
| alterego | 11.04 is rubbish until teathering starts working .. | 16:50 |
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| alterego | I'm just using the default font for now, until I start testing it on devices. | 16:50 |
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| DawnFoster | community office meeting starting in 5 minutes in #meego-meeting http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings | 16:55 |
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| alterego | lcuk: still no delivery for me :( | 17:02 |
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| Venemo | alterego, Quim says that they'll review the applications by the end of this weelk | 17:04 |
| Venemo | week* | 17:04 |
| alterego | Venemo: I know | 17:05 |
| alterego | I'm not talking about that btw | 17:05 |
| alterego | I'm expecting a delivery | 17:05 |
| alterego | But nothing to do with N9/50 | 17:05 |
| Venemo | what delivery? | 17:06 |
| alterego | An N8 from the hactivate summit me and lcuk attended a couple of weekends ago | 17:06 |
| alterego | His bundle arrived this morning, | 17:06 |
| lcuk | my bundle arrived on sunday night | 17:07 |
| lcuk | i got a phone in the post today though | 17:07 |
| alterego | :) | 17:07 |
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| alterego | Oh you! :P | 17:07 |
| berndhs | the bundle came in inbundled portions ? | 17:07 |
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| alterego | Maybe the courier is driving from Mancester :P | 17:07 |
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| lcuk | berndhs, based on tracys most recent facebook post, yeah | 17:09 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:09 |
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| Texrat | hey guys | 17:15 |
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| lcuk | hi Texrat | 17:16 |
| Texrat | o/ lcuk | 17:17 |
| alterego | Hey Texrat | 17:17 |
| * alterego buys Texrat a beer | 17:17 | |
| alterego | Yes, that is a bribe | 17:17 |
| alterego | ^_^ | 17:17 |
| Texrat | if only I was the one really making decisions... :D | 17:19 |
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| dm8tbr | Texrat: then you'd be drunk all day! | 17:22 |
| Texrat | true dm8tbr | 17:22 |
| Texrat | your mission is to get qgil drunk | 17:22 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:22 |
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| alterego | I'd rather he spend the time sifting through all the applications :) | 17:23 |
| achipa | rejoice, a meego scope was born ! | 17:23 |
| dm8tbr | uh? | 17:23 |
| berndhs | what's a scope ? | 17:24 |
| * Texrat thwacks achipa just for the fun of it | 17:24 | |
| achipa | well, defines, technically, but that's almost a scope :) | 17:24 |
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| berndhs | ah, a macro | 17:24 |
| MohammadAG | heya Texrat | 17:24 |
| achipa | so in a .pro file you can do contains(MEEGO_EDITION,harmattan): message(NuffSaid) | 17:25 |
| Texrat | \o MohammadAG | 17:25 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, beer isn't a bribe, get something more expensive :P | 17:25 |
| Texrat | achipa does that help your IFDEF problem? | 17:25 |
| alterego | I already drunk all the sambuca .. | 17:25 |
| MohammadAG | achipa, is that as of now, or since the release of the SDK? | 17:26 |
| achipa | Texrat: yes, it was an arduous fight but in the end I guess we out-bored the qt guys :) | 17:26 |
| achipa | MohammadAG: as of now, will be in the next SDK update | 17:26 |
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| alterego | Still, achipa will that work in OBS? ... | 17:33 |
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| achipa | when MeeGo integrates a Qt version that is newer than the one in the harmattan SDK, I would think yes | 17:34 |
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| mcfrisk | Hello, is this a good place to ask about obs? | 17:43 |
| X-Fade | mcfrisk: Sure | 17:44 |
| alterego | mcfrisk: best to just ask :) | 17:44 |
| mcfrisk | thanks, we have our own obs setup and building meego | 17:44 |
| mcfrisk | How to remove x86_64 builds completely? | 17:45 |
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| X-Fade | mcfrisk: Remove the scheduler. | 17:45 |
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| mcfrisk | How :) | 17:46 |
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| mcfrisk | From base repo configs we have removed x86_64 stuff but anytime a new project starts to use it, it gets x86_64 builds by default and they fail | 17:47 |
| X-Fade | mcfrisk: You have it configure in your config: OBS_SCHEDULER_ARCHITECTURES | 17:47 |
| X-Fade | mcfrisk: for obs-server | 17:48 |
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| mcfrisk | thanks, we'll try now | 17:50 |
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| X-Fade | mcfrisk: Just ping me if you need any help. | 17:51 |
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| _ivan__ | Hi, I've set up a OBS private instance, but I can't see meego in the build targets. Any help appreciated. | 17:56 |
| X-Fade | _ivan__: That is because you need to set that up yourself. | 17:56 |
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| jykae | why private instance? | 17:57 |
| _ivan__ | X-Fade: So far I understand. I've followed stskeeps' insructions and imported project, then tried to add repository, but the build target does not show... | 17:57 |
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| X-Fade | _ivan__: Using the advance one? | 17:58 |
| _ivan__ | X-Fade: as described here: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS#Step_8:_Adding_a_build_target_to_your_home_project | 17:58 |
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| _ivan__ | jykae: Here are some general use cases: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_private_instance#Use_Cases | 18:00 |
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| Jaffa | slaine: You're forking mad! | 18:01 |
| slaine | Jaffa: boom 'tish | 18:01 |
| * Stskeeps|holiday wouldnt totally mind a name change, but then again we have stood together in face of serious challenges under the meego name | 18:01 | |
| Jaffa | Ithankyou | 18:01 |
| slaine | Jaffa, Take my wife....please | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | i'm actually more wondering when the governance gets updated so we know how meego looks like going forward | 18:02 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps|holiday: Hey! You should be enjoying nice weather and not lurking at your screen! | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | X-Fade: i am doing both | 18:02 |
| * gabrbedd votes to keep the name and drop the meegons. :-) | 18:02 | |
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| slaine | I'm happy with the MeeGo name | 18:03 |
| slaine | It's got a community behind it now | 18:03 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps|holiday: Still, then you are not enjoying fully :) | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps|holiday | yeah | 18:03 |
| slaine | And it's taken a lot of shake ups as Stskeeps|holiday said | 18:03 |
| gabrbedd | I think it's an OK name... and we've invested a lot in it already. | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | it has a lot different fvibe than moblin did | 18:03 |
| slaine | Plus, I'm wearing my dubconf t-shirt atm | 18:03 |
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| slaine | However, I can understand the idea for a name change from the point of distancing the project from the Nokia abandoning saga. We got a lot of bad press with that | 18:05 |
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| X-Fade | slaine: Then you get something worse: "Formerly known as MeeGo" | 18:05 |
| _ivan__ | Stskeeps: Any logs I can look at to see what's going on when adding OBS build target fails? | 18:05 |
| w00t | Stskeeps|holiday: not to mention the jokes of MeeGo back to Moblin | 18:05 |
| * Stskeeps|holiday is personally tired of nokia management dragging the name through the mud | 18:05 | |
| slaine | I guess MeeGo could seen as that project that Nokia dumped | 18:05 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps|holiday ++ | 18:06 |
| slaine | w00t: I resemble that remark | 18:06 |
| slaine | w00t: for what it's worth, I value MeeGo far far more than I ever valued Moblin | 18:07 |
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| clbr | the "meego" name got good press related to the N9 release (the N9 being a DOA device didn't) | 18:07 |
| w00t | I wouldn't be here without MeeGo, and I suspect the same is true for a lot of others here :) | 18:07 |
| slaine | in case my jokes do actually cause offense, it's not my intention | 18:07 |
| w00t | 'here' meaning 'in this collective' | 18:07 |
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| w00t | so no matter the trauma, good did come out of it | 18:08 |
| slaine | w00t: exactly | 18:08 |
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| Jaffa | Indeed. MeeGo's image has finally recovered after feb11 and the various open source UX big reveals to showcase a commercial-quality product with the N9 | 18:08 |
| slaine | see my previous comments | 18:08 |
| clbr | and IMHO the future will be back to *MY* data instead of the cloud stuff, so keeping the name might prove fortunate in some years | 18:08 |
| Jaffa | If MeeGo's a bad name, Moblin's worse ;-) | 18:08 |
| slaine | Jaffa: Whats worse is that nobody ever heard of Moblin | 18:08 |
| smoku | slaine: any press is good press | 18:09 |
| slaine | Most people in the industry know about MeeGo | 18:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | my impression with meego/moblin was that nobody was supposed to hear about them | 18:09 |
| slaine | I was actually stopped by someone down in the NOC this morning to comment on my tee | 18:09 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: That has *never* been clear with MeeGo :-/ | 18:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | that they were supposed to just be a differentiation arm. | 18:09 |
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| achipa | slaine: there is a country in Europe that for 20 years now goes by the name of Former X Republic Y... :) | 18:12 |
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| gabrbedd | TSCHAKeee: Jaffa: I thought the point of "MeeGo" and marketing the name was to create an app-store ecosystem. | 18:14 |
| gabrbedd | I.e. This device can tie in to MeeGo Apps. | 18:14 |
| gabrbedd | (btw, sorry for using an elop buzzword) | 18:15 |
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| TSCHAKeee | yeah, it became that. I was talking about my first impression. sorry for not being more clear. | 18:17 |
| Venemo | well, MeeGo isn't a bad name, and it is very easy to remember | 18:18 |
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| Venemo | also very easy to pronounce (which was a bad point in Maemo) | 18:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | mhm | 18:19 |
| Venemo | how do you pronounce Maemo? Finnish people said it, like 'my-mo', while others said 'may-mo'... I'm still unsure which is the correct | 18:20 |
| wmarone_ | it probably only sounds right in finnish | 18:20 |
| Jaffa | Venemo: "my-mo" is closest in English pronounciation | 18:20 |
| Venemo | mhm | 18:21 |
| Venemo | Jaffa, thx | 18:21 |
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| npm | and harmattan is pronounced "my-go" :-) | 19:34 |
| nusse | my-go? | 19:34 |
| nusse | migo. | 19:35 |
| npm | that was re: "Venemo: "my-mo" is closest in English pronounciation" | 19:35 |
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| npm | didn't realize a whole hour of silence had happened. | 19:36 |
| npm | guess everybody's at a meeting | 19:36 |
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| npm | judging from bugzilla, the season of pushback is upon us... there must be a release coming up... | 19:37 |
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| nusse | according to http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted i wrote the raw.bzw to /dev/sdb and installed uboot-pr13 | 19:42 |
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| nusse | but now uboot is booting maemo, if i use run mmcboot i receiva a wrong image format for bootm command | 19:44 |
| nusse | whats wrong here? | 19:44 |
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| DawnFoster | Events meeting starting in 15 minutes in #meego-meeting http://wiki.meego.com/Events/Meetings | 19:45 |
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| thiago | thanks for the reminder, Dawn | 19:47 |
| nusse | well, the second time it magically worked, seems to be somewhat strange | 19:48 |
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| delac | has anyone else tried to run the Qt Mobility "mapviewer" example on Meego? | 20:02 |
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| MSvB | Has anybody here had luck with F3607gw UTMS modems in MeeGo 1.2? | 20:12 |
| MSvB | I can't get ofono to detect the modem, even after upgrading ofono 0.48 to 0.50. | 20:13 |
| MSvB | ...although ifconfig shows the wwan0 device just fine. | 20:13 |
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| npm | http://turntable.com --> firefox4 --> success ; meego-app-browser --> fail | 20:48 |
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| npm | http://turntable.com/212 is me on my exopc :-) | 20:58 |
| npm | sucky music selection and they won't let me upload my own trax so not much to dj | 21:00 |
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| b1tsh1ft | npm: what release are you on? I'm on 20110614 and there are some serious UI issues in the settings | 21:11 |
| lbt_ | Jaffa: ping | 21:11 |
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| npm | yay, they got my bro-in-law and sister's music on here | 21:14 |
| npm | sorry i guess i should get back to "work" | 21:15 |
| npm | b1tsh1ft: i'm on a very hybrid release but it's last update is last wednesday's weekly | 21:15 |
| npm | which is a terrible release and i suggest avoiding it | 21:15 |
| npm | the week prior was better | 21:16 |
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| lbt_ | is the deadline for the device programme today? | 21:17 |
| npm | re "hybrid release" -- I'm using http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Lem-Firefox4 | 21:17 |
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| fiferboy | lbt_: The Community device program ends today, yes | 21:19 |
| fiferboy | The developer.nokia.com program goes until July 31 | 21:19 |
| lbt_ | fiferboy: ta... better fill that in then... | 21:20 |
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| SpeedEvil | fiferboy: Today as in 4:40 to go? | 21:20 |
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| SpeedEvil | Oh well - I don't think I can polish my application more. | 21:21 |
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| * SpeedEvil idly wonders about registering a company, and applying for the other side. | 21:21 | |
| RST38h | the other side of what? | 21:22 |
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| SpeedEvil | the company dev program | 21:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Actually - they just get discounts, don't they. | 21:24 |
| SpeedEvil | And I'd have to write lots more stuff. | 21:24 |
| SpeedEvil | So no. | 21:24 |
| berndhs | today's deadline is only for 950s, is that correct ? | 21:24 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 21:24 |
| npm | oh those are n950's? | 21:25 |
| npm | sweet | 21:25 |
| b1tsh1ft | npm: interesting, im on one of Intels supported releases and its not very supportive. | 21:26 |
| fiferboy | SpeedEvil: I think you can register on the other side as an individual too | 21:26 |
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| fiferboy | I read that somewhere today, but it didn't work when I tried it the other day | 21:27 |
| fiferboy | Someone retweeted it | 21:27 |
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| berndhs | maybe I should ask for an exo, there seem to be some of them left | 21:28 |
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| berndhs | and people come here every day telling us how much they like them | 21:31 |
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| npm | b1tsh1ft: i decided to make meego useable and useful for me as a primary dev platform (tho i use fedora as desktop)... sick of wasting time on the differences i made meego work for me http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Lem | 21:36 |
| berndhs | does the IVI UX work on exoPC ? | 21:37 |
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| npm | SpeedEvil: thanks for reminding me about today's device deadline... just removed all the garrbage i had to add because all the paragraphs had run together | 21:37 |
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| wazd | "This is the MOTHER of all phones. This is the design of the gods." | 21:52 |
| wazd | yeah, with micro usb ON f*cking TOP | 21:52 |
| RST38h | wazd: source? =)~ | 21:52 |
| RST38h | wazd: can I troll the source? | 21:52 |
| wazd | RST38h: Engadget podcast quote | 21:52 |
| wazd | RST38h: heavily quoted today | 21:53 |
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| wazd | I can't say a word bout software design, it's magnificent | 21:53 |
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| wazd | compared to previous generations it's a goddamn revolution | 21:53 |
| RST38h | wazd: has engadget gone mad? | 21:54 |
| wazd | but seriously, charging port on top? 2nd time in a row? | 21:54 |
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| RST38h | wazd: what about their religious beliefs? | 21:54 |
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| wazd | RST38h: dunno, they sound scary :) | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | fiferboy: ohai | 21:58 |
| fiferboy | GeneralAntilles: Hi! | 21:59 |
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| wazd | GeneralAntilles: fiferboy: o/ | 22:03 |
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| fiferboy | Hey wazd | 22:10 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: my nokia died, cracked screen | 22:14 |
| berndhs | thats unfortunate | 22:14 |
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| CosmoHill | not to sure when it happened, went to text someone and was like "oh, meh" | 22:15 |
| CosmoHill | wait. my last nokia died of cracked screen too | 22:15 |
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| berndhs | my sister has some kind of Motorola phone with a cracked screen, still works ok | 22:17 |
| CosmoHill | since I only know 2 / 3 numbers off by heart and one of them is mine.... | 22:18 |
| berndhs | so that leaves 1 unkown number, cant you look it up ? | 22:18 |
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| CosmoHill | I need to somehow turn the bluetooth on and sync it | 22:22 |
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| CosmoHill | berndhs: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/nokia-cracked-screen.jpg | 22:23 |
| lcuk | eep CosmoHill | 22:24 |
| berndhs | maybe there's time left on the device program to get a 950, send in the pic and say its urgent | 22:25 |
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| smoku | CosmoHill, sync with a cable? | 22:26 |
| CosmoHill | think I've just turned it on | 22:27 |
| CosmoHill | I've used the device enough that I can operate it with only 30% of the screen :) | 22:27 |
| * CosmoHill cackles | 22:28 | |
| CosmoHill | the only item it wants to sync is a number my mate deleted off my phone | 22:28 |
| CosmoHill | so I canceled the sync and kept the number | 22:28 |
| CosmoHill | btw, there is no left select button any more | 22:29 |
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| * CosmoHill could still use his nokia via the oiv suite | 22:31 | |
| berndhs | this is why you want to run sshd on your phone and you want remote X | 22:32 |
| CosmoHill | or not wear shorts with your phone and car keys in the same pocket | 22:36 |
| smoku | or just have your contacts synced somewhere on schedule | 22:37 |
| berndhs | or carry a piece of paper with the 3 phone numbers | 22:37 |
| CosmoHill | both phones are connected to my mac via bluetooh isync, so you sync one then tell the other to clear and sync | 22:37 |
| CosmoHill | why would I have the only 3 numbers I can remember on paper? | 22:38 |
| CosmoHill | actually, my grandad does have our numbers on a bit of paper with his mobile phone | 22:38 |
| berndhs | its not as cool as ssh, but its robust | 22:38 |
| CosmoHill | what if you write the phone numbers in hex? | 22:40 |
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| berndhs | or learn how to whistle properly and do the dial tones yourself | 22:42 |
| berndhs | that worked on analog lines | 22:43 |
| CosmoHill | where you whistle into the phone and it goes "thank your for depositing the correct amount"? | 22:44 |
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| berndhs | never tried it myself actually | 22:44 |
| alterego | It's hard | 22:45 |
| alterego | My dad used to be able to do it. | 22:45 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, morse code. | 22:46 |
| lcuk | learn it. | 22:46 |
| berndhs | its in /usr/bin/morse | 22:46 |
| dm8tbr | --.- .-. --.. ..--.. | 22:47 |
| thiago | CosmoHill: hmm? | 22:47 |
| CosmoHill | one N950 please ^.^ | 22:47 |
| thiago | for me too | 22:47 |
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| lcuk | alterego, the c5 has same cpu as the n810 but clocked higher | 22:53 |
| alterego | lcuk: neat | 22:53 |
| * lcuk managed 33fps at 640*480 :) | 22:54 | |
| lcuk | on 810 | 22:54 |
| lcuk | I can't remember what kind of refresh speeds I got at 640*360 | 22:54 |
| alterego | The C5 should have hardware graphics acceleration, the N810 had it disabled. | 22:54 |
| lcuk | liqbase does not require it | 22:54 |
| lcuk | and wouldn't know how to use it if it tried lol | 22:54 |
| lcuk | but it will be running qt | 22:55 |
| lcuk | so direct performance comparisons | 22:55 |
| lcuk | for next billion qt better be performing well ;) | 22:55 |
| alterego | Fair point, so you've got a direct rendering pipeline setup already on the C5? | 22:55 |
| alterego | lcuk: For the next billion Qt5, scenegraph, wayland. | 22:55 |
| alterego | lcuk: no symbian or current S40 Qt targets in Qt5 tree .. | 22:56 |
| alterego | lcuk: did you see my tweet about the Qt Ambassador N950 programme? | 22:56 |
| thiago | opengl to the next billion | 22:57 |
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| SpeedEvil | meego to the next billion! | 22:59 |
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| alterego | thiago: has a point, with a GLES2 background, you don't need to worry about specific platforms | 22:59 |
| lcuk | alterego, i have done 0 code, just reviewing specs and stuff | 22:59 |
| alterego | But what about input handling. | 22:59 |
| * alterego ponders. | 22:59 | |
| thiago | SpeedEvil: I'd love that too | 23:00 |
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| CosmoHill | hi Alison_Chaiken | 23:05 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Hey all. | 23:05 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Only #meego and Walmart have official greeters in my experience, but I like #meego better. | 23:06 |
| * CosmoHill has only seen greeters on tv | 23:06 | |
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| CosmoHill | more greeters in the UK are just polite security guards | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | most* | 23:07 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd disagree with the polite. | 23:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Surly is more common. | 23:07 |
| Venemo | alterego, "Qt Ambassador N950 programme"=? | 23:07 |
| * SpeedEvil ponders a hambassador bacon program. | 23:08 | |
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| injuredx | need help.. :( | 23:25 |
| Jaffa | lbt_: pong | 23:25 |
| injuredx | anyone having problem with elantech touchpad? | 23:26 |
| lcuk | injuredx, in general or meego related? | 23:26 |
| Jaffa | Fed up of MHL posts. My last take on the topic: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1041029&postcount=1223 | 23:26 |
| injuredx | meego | 23:26 |
| injuredx | i have acer aod255 with elantech touchpad, when i boot meego on usb disk, touchpad wont move... can anyone help me? | 23:29 |
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| eudago | hi guys! | 23:47 |
| SpeedEvil | hi | 23:48 |
| lcuk | i keep putting my n900 into car central console | 23:48 |
| lcuk | and everytime I do I think about it like car stereo plugin | 23:49 |
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| Damion3 | I have the n950 again! The account manager flashed what she was told was the latest release | 23:57 |
| Damion3 | although it's immediately offering 10.2011.26 ota, she's convinced that it'll brick it | 23:58 |
| thiago | 26? | 23:58 |
| thiago | you're supposed to run 22-6 on the N950 | 23:58 |
| Damion3 | she's running what nokia told her, which I think is .25 | 23:59 |
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